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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
@JW Insider Thanks so much for your very good explanations !
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ARchiv@L reacted to JW Insider in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
Of course, back then the pre-Watchtower site looked more like this:
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ARchiv@L reacted to JW Insider in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
Good point. Also, if that last aerial picture of the lake were shifted just slightly to the right, you would see IBM Sterling Forest, a place I went to every year from 2002 to 2012. (We had several contracts with them for backup, disaster recovery and key server mirrors for our data center.) It was only an hour away from our own company headquarters in NYC, and only 1.5 hours from my house before rush hour.
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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
Oh yes, thats not far from the town Thank you for the great link Eoin Joyce, now I've a good view over all !
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ARchiv@L reacted to Evacuated in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
I was thinking that, but you know it doesn't seem that far from Brooklyn and there a lot of people in between. Check Google map: Warwick Headquarters
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ARchiv@L reacted to Bible Speaks in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
ARchiv@L: So Happy they are moving out of the Big City ? Who knows how the cities will fare soon? Jehovah knows! He has "perfect timing" for His people! Thank you for sharing,
Bible Speaks ???
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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
Yes, that is true ! I would miss different animals, where & how they go serving ? They need a helicopter, bec. its looking little like a jungle Many questions... hahaha But our Brother's made of sure a very good choice !
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Queen Esther in Reaching Hearts in the Digital Age
(I add whatever I find online) ....
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Queen Esther in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
*** g92 2/8 p. 32 Valentine Day—Where Did It Come From? ***
Regardless of the true origin of the practice, it is evident that it is rooted in ancient pagan beliefs
*** g95 2/8 p. 27 A New Name for an Old Orgy ***
In any case, a “saintly” title cannot conceal the unsavory origin of this celebration. Valentine Day is rooted in pagan rituals and is therefore not celebrated by true Christians.
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Queen Esther in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
it is also very quiet environment .....
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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in Warwick, NW Headquarters, photos
@ARchiv@L The last photo is looking, like the Bethel is very far away from the next town, thats weird I think - but very safe from the rest of the world. Its nice around full nature, a little similar the German Bethel in Selters... Maybe other Bethel - houses too ?
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Ann O'Maly in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
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thank you all for your comments !
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Bible Speaks in Sample Teach the Truth Presentation—Eph 5:33
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Queen Esther in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
I see it more simple The Bible does not speek about the weird Valentin's day.... so its not importend for me and I not give much time for such of commercial days, the same for Xmas, etc. etc. - Satan is using many traps ! The Bible is deciding and on the 1. place, NOT always our literature. Thats my opinion and experience.
Thanks for your detailed comment and time, you needed for that... our dear Brother !
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ARchiv@L got a reaction from Arauna in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
the celebrations because of "love" had nothing to do with actuall love or agape.
all celebrations included eʹros,=love between the sexes.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200002781?q=agape&p=par#h=5
(see also images above)
Babylonian Deities.
After the death of Nimrod, the Babylonians reasonably would have been inclined to hold him in high regard as the founder and builder and first king of their city and as the organizer of the original Babylonian Empire.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9
Origin of Gods and Goddesses.
The striking similarity readily observable when comparing the gods and goddesses of ancient peoples can hardly be attributed to chance. Concerning this, J. Garnier writes: “Not merely Egyptians, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans, but also the Hindus, the Buddhists of China and of Thibet, the Goths, Anglo-Saxons, Druids, Mexicans and Peruvians, the Aborigines of Australia, and even the savages of the South Sea Islands, must have all derived their religious ideas from a common source and a common centre. Everywhere we find the most startling coincidences in rites, ceremonies, customs, traditions, and in the names and relations of their respective gods and goddesses.”—The Worship of the Dead, London, 1904, p. 3.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=6
Tradition has it that Nimrod died a violent death.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9
....the religions of many ancient peoples included the worship of a god placed in the role of a benefactor who dies a violent death on earth and then is restored to life.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=8
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give me some more time if I can find MORE SIMILARITIES !
thank you
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A number of scholars have linked Anahita with the Babylonian Ishtar.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=37
Grecian Deities.
An examination of the gods and goddesses of ancient Greece reveals the traces of Babylonian influence.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=41
Origins
The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of ....
...whom the Greeks call Pan (see image above) from @Bible Speaks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
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ARchiv@L reacted to JW Insider in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
The issue quoted from includes the following under the Christmas holiday heading, on page 195:
In its issue of December 26,
1927, the New York World carried a full-page
article on Christmas which showed beyond a
doubt that the day was observed by various
heathen nations for many centuries before the
birth of Christ. On the same date, the Chicago
Tribune, the Cincinnati Enquirer and the St.
Paul Daily News carried shorter articles proving
the heathen origin of the day. So did some
of the larger magazines of the country. Should
anyone desire to investigate the subject further,
after reading this article, I would recommend
a perusal of the following four books:
Kitto's Illustrated Commentary; Wilkinson's
Egyptians; History of Medieval Drama, by
Robinson; and The Two Babylons, by Alexander
Hyslop, an English clergyman. The last named
book is specially interesting in its revelations,
not only on the subject of Christmas,
but also on other holidays and feast days now
so popular.
However, the actual article on Valentine's Day has no reference to any origins that go back to Nimrod (although this is used for Easter and Christmas, etc). The portion of the above post from @Bible Speaks that looks like it comes from the Golden Age (starting with "The romantic nature of Valentine's Day...") is not from the Golden Age. It's from Catholic.org as is the next section starting out "The first representation..." The quote is interrupted with a reference to Nimrod which is an allusion to the chart that apparently derived originally from "The Two Babylons."
Here's the complete quote from the Golden Age regarding St. Valentine's Day, on page 208.
ST. VALENTINE'S DAY has nothing very
saintly to commend it as to its origin. The
whole month of February was given over by the
Romans to a period of almost unbridled licentiousness.
One of the common practices was for
a group of young men and young women to
meet together. The names of the young women
were placed in a box and the young men drew
them as chance directed and they became partners
for a day subsequently known as St. Valentine's
Day. The young woman's gift for the day
was a man.
The gift the young woman drew might be
more or less bad, mostly bad; and therefore the
gifts passed out on St. Valentine's Day are
often bad ones. It will be noticed that St. Valentine
is supposed to be the god of love, or at
least that cupids represent him. The dragging
of the word "saint" into this thing is only a
scheme of the Devil to make real saintliness
seem like what it is not, licentiousness.
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ARchiv@L reacted to Bible Speaks in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
* Valentine’s Day. “St. Valentine’s Day has nothing very saintly to commend it as to its origin.”—The Golden Age, December 25, 1929, page 208.
"The romantic nature of Valentine's Day may have derived during the Middle Ages, when it was believed that birds paired couples in mid-February. According to English 18th-century antiquarians Alban Butler and Francis Douce, Valentine's Day was most likely created to overpower the pagan holiday, Lupercalia.
(Note the picture, another name to the worship of Nimrod) (Both Lupercus, and St Valentine)
The first representation of Saint Valentine appeared in a The Nuremberg Chronicle, a great illustrated book printed in 1493. [Additional evidence that Valentine was a real person: archaeologists have unearthed a Roman catacomb and an ancient church dedicated to Saint Valentine.] Alongside a woodcut portrait of him, text states that Valentinus was a Roman priestmartyred during the reign of Claudius the Goth [Claudius II]. Since he was caught marrying Christian couples and aiding any Christians who were being persecuted under Emperor Claudius in Rome [when helping them was considered a crime], Valentinus was arrested and imprisoned. Claudius took a liking to this prisoner -- until Valentinus made a strategic error: he tried to convert the Emperor -- whereupon this priest was condemned to death. He was beaten with clubs and stoned; when that didn't do it, he was beheaded outside the Flaminian Gate [circa 269].
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ARchiv@L reacted to Queen Esther in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?
I just read this by a Brother.....
Why Jehovah's Witnesses " Do Not " participate in Valentine's Day,...
See neutral news report in the newspaper Tenerife Weekly 14. Februay 2014