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A Jehovah Witness would know that Gehenna is not Hellfire....   Gehenna is symbolism as being destroyed as it were by fire.  That's why you never got the weeping and gnashing of teeth, even though that is the state you are in now and will be for all eternity...   Oh well....  guess I'll chalk that one up to Satan.
Can't win them all, ya know! 

YES...we know the hour and day Jesus was enthroned as King.... Yet Jehovah's Day will come as a thief....when?  When the sheep are blessed and marked for surviorship.... since it will be done on an individual basis, Nobody can name a sepcifc hour and day until that Last Sheep recieves his marking for survivorship.
When the Brothers and Sisters start living beyond the 70 or 80 year mark... know that we are in Jehovah Day.

Actually, we do know the hour and the day.  What question was Jesus answering?  While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the Sign of your Presence and of the Conclusion of the system of things?” (Matthew 24:3)
He told his followers what SIGN to look for in that Chapter since he was not returning in the FLESH. Then we also the Book of Revelation that repeats them by the means of the Four Horsemen!  Getty Up!  
So WHEN was the day and hour of Christs' Prescence and the Conclusion of the System oif things?
October 1st, 1914 
It's the world who has No Idea.... They look with Physical Eyes.... Yet they can't SEE the PHYSICAL MANFESTIONS of Christ Presence...  today! 
 
 
 
 

2034 and its significance...
2034 has a dual significance of several Bible Prophecies that will begin to unfold in the near future. One of those prophecies are in response to the 'short period of time' Satan has, known as the Last Days. "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." (Rev 12:12) 2034 doesn't represent the beginning of this period but rather the end of it. The Last Days would come to a close as the allotted time is exhausted giving a full witness to the earth's inhabitants. "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)
That End is not the end of the world, but rather the End of an Age of Wickedness. An Explanation from The Watchtower Magazine, December 15, 2003, Pages 14 - 19 entitled "Warned of “Things Not Yet Beheld” The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring “the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh. What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in “the time of the end.” (Daniel 12:4)
Could the Great Tribulation occur soon after 2034? It is possible that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was referring to the Great Tribulation as an allotment period of time. Why? Jesus explains to his followers, "Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man:" (Luke 17:26) Weren't the days of Noah 120 years in length? (Genesis 6:3) This period (1914 + 120 yrs =2034) is a conclusion of the system of things. Read more...   What does tribulation mean?
Definition of tribulation : distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution
also : a trying experience   'Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.' (Rev 12:12) Are we not in distress and suffering resulting from oppression or persecution especially since 1914? The Last Days began in 1914, but could 2034 mark the end of the Last Days? It could...
The short period of time would not be an exhaustive amount of time that would seem to go on and on and on. The Scriptures point out that Satan recognizes that this allotment of time to be a short period of time. 2034 would not only represent the end of Satan's Wicked Rule, but would also mark Christ Millennial Reign poised to begin. Therefore, it makes sense that the Sealing of the 144,000 would be completed prior to the end of the Last Days in 2034.   Notice this teaching from the Apostle Paul, "For God is my witness of how I am longing for all of you with such tender affection as Christ Jesus has. And this is what I continue praying, that your love may abound still more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment; that you may make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others up to the day of Christ;" (Philippians 1:8-10)   2034 is not an end all date, by this time Satan and his demons will have gathered the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. (Rev 16:14) A host of other prophecies begin to emerge. For instance, the separation work of the sheep and goats begin. Jesus would grant Life to the Great Crowd whom he chooses as his sheep. They would be marked to be Survivors during the short respite period of peace. They simply continue living during the condition or situation of Armageddon that forms at (Psalms 2:2) and (1 Thessalonians 5:3) and become Survivors of the Last Days. Once the Day of Christ does begin, no harm will be allowed to come upon the faithful as the wicked die off.

Actually, we do know the hour and the day.  What question was Jesus answering?  While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the Sign of your Presence and of the Conclusion of the system of things?” (Matthew 24:3)
He told his followers what SIGN to look for in that Chapter since he was not returning in the FLESH. Then we also the Book of Revelation that repeats them by the means of the Four Horsemen!  Getty Up!  
So WHEN was the day and hour of Christs' Prescence and the Conclusion of the System oif things?
October 1st, 1914 
It's the world who has No Idea.... They look with Physical Eyes.... Yet they can't SEE the PHYSICAL MANFESTIONS of Christ Presence...  today! 
 
 
 
 

Scripture taken out of context:   “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”i 7  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.
They were not even yet anointed when they asked this question.  They would understand things better a little later once they received holy spirit. 
Down the stream of time we have enough other evidence and many prophecies to help us to see where we are in the stream of time right now!  And talking about "seasons" - Jesus  also referred to the budding fig tree.   One can know the season (but not the day) when the fig buds.   Of course the TIME was too far off for the 12 apostles because the Messiah had just arrived!  - they would not understand.  Further down the stream of time disciples would be able to understand the season is ripe with the fruits (signs). 
This does not mean we will ever know the DAY and HOUR because only Jehovah knows when the issue of human rulership has been proven to be devastating to mankind  beyond reasonable doubt and requires his intervention. This we do definitely not know!  We can see we are here (the season has arrived) but we do not know how deep this tribulation will be allowed to develop.  By all indications things are really speeding up! The figs are getting riper and riper and the pregnant lady are in birth pains every minute and will not go onto 12 months! LOL. 
The watchman must be standing on his post and keeping alert! 
One of the largest banks in China failed this week. (Lehman brothers type). Soon USA will have food shortages and energy crisis!  The tribulation is growing and fear for the future!
T deny what is in front of your eyes is to deny that figs can get ripe!
 

Jesus Christ, the great prophet, stated in part of his answer to the conclusion of this system of things or the end of the age, “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) 
Think about his reply for a moment, here, Jesus Christ makes the claim of not knowing that day or hour.  The firstborn of all creation did not know the day or hour of his second presence and he claimed the angels did not know either. Recall this scripture?  “It was revealed to them that they were ministering, not to themselves, but to you, regarding what has now been announced to you by those who declared the good news to you with holy spirit sent from heaven. Into these very things, angels are desiring to peer.” (1Peter 1:12) 
What you may find interesting is that date and hour was already embedded in the Bible through past prophecy in the Book of Daniel. The Temple would be destroyed in October of 607 BCE. The “seven times” was a calculation of the Jewish year of 360 days. Simple math 7 x 360 = 2520 days. Apply a day for a year. The seven times is actually a reference to the allotted time limit of the Gentiles. It is a ‘timed event’.
However, in the Book of Daniel, Bible Prophecy did point to a specific time period. Taking the time limit of 2,520 years and adding them to the time of destruction of the temple in Jerusalem 607 BCE, the timing lined up to the year 1914 CE.

definitely - it is useless to throw pearls before the dogs - ta-ta

"Bring to Nothing by the Epiphaneia' of his Parousia" (2 Thess 2:8)  The wicked will SEE soon enough. No need for me to spoon feed you....
 
 
Strong's Concordance epiphaneia: appearance Original Word: ἐπιφάνεια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: epiphaneia
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-if-an'-i-ah)
Definition: appearance
Usage: appearing, manifestation, glorious display.
HELPS Word-studies 2015 epipháneia (from 1909 /epí, "on, fitting," which intensifies 5316 /phaínō, "show forth, appear") – properly, a fitting manifestation (literally, "an epiphany").
[2015 (epipháneia) is the root of the English term, "epiphany."]
 
Strong's Concordance parousia: a presence, a coming Original Word: παρουσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: parousia
Phonetic Spelling: (par-oo-see'-ah)
Definition: a presence, a coming
Usage: (a) presence, (b) a coming, an arrival, advent, especially of the second coming of Christ.
HELPS Word-studies 3952 parousía (from parōn, "be present, arrive to enter into a situation")

I speculate too!  ... about 120 years...... We are all eager to see how things are coming to fruition. 
BUT what is happening in the world right now - lockdowns for health reasons and lock downs (soon coming) for environmental reasons with a counterfeit final government forming (a new world order or great reset of all social and ruling precedents), which will oppose Jehovah's incoming king and declare they are capable with their technology of bringing peace and "security".....   This is definitely going on and and a good indication of how far we already are into the time of the end.   The great Day of Jehovah is coming near! Lift up your heads when you see these things starting to happen!
I do not set my heart on dates BUT when people scoff - I say that the generation before the flood was 120 years.... so wait and see!   The world reset is being pushed at an alarming rate at present!   
Maybe I should say nothing about what I think..... so as not to mislead people.... but I put it down on paper for people to weigh.  If it is a feather - it will blow away and nothing will come of it but if it has substance one will see the fulfillment of it.
I cannot unknow what I know - I have been a keen watcher of world events for a long time! 

"Bring to Nothing by the Epiphaneia' of his Parousia" (2 Thess 2:8)  The wicked will SEE soon enough. No need for me to spoon feed you....
 
 
Strong's Concordance epiphaneia: appearance Original Word: ἐπιφάνεια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: epiphaneia
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-if-an'-i-ah)
Definition: appearance
Usage: appearing, manifestation, glorious display.
HELPS Word-studies 2015 epipháneia (from 1909 /epí, "on, fitting," which intensifies 5316 /phaínō, "show forth, appear") – properly, a fitting manifestation (literally, "an epiphany").
[2015 (epipháneia) is the root of the English term, "epiphany."]
 
Strong's Concordance parousia: a presence, a coming Original Word: παρουσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: parousia
Phonetic Spelling: (par-oo-see'-ah)
Definition: a presence, a coming
Usage: (a) presence, (b) a coming, an arrival, advent, especially of the second coming of Christ.
HELPS Word-studies 3952 parousía (from parōn, "be present, arrive to enter into a situation")

"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.  For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal,  having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness,  betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,  having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away." (2 Timothy 3:1-5)   The Last Days (pangs of distress) do not last for an exhaustive period of time but do have an ending to them. It's an allotment period of time of 120 years, like the Days of Noah. This allotment is a Conclusion of a System of things. Better times lay ahead of us as the pangs of distress come to their end, but not for everyone. “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” (Rev 7:3) Notice that harm to the earth, sea, or trees are being withheld until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads. Once the total number of the 144,000 are sealed, then a colossal of other prophecies begin to become fulfilled. Time left is reduced and turning back will no longer be a recourse once the 144,000 are sealed, which will bring the end of ungodly people as they begin dying a permanant death with No Ressurection. (The Second Death)   The question about this prophecy is when. Will it be revealed in the future, or are we living it now? In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly.   Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.”   International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."   What does 2034 represent? The Epiphany of Christ's Presence. The Epiphany was spoken of in the same article “END OF WORLD IN 1914?" It represents that Ah-ah moment of the realization of an undergoing prophecy. Jehovah's people will start to notice their health is generally getting better a little at a time and start sharing these revelations with one another. Notice how the wicked and lawless will be destroyed? "Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and Bring to Nothing by the Manifestation of his Presence." (2 Thessalonians 2:8)   This is where it is critical to gain the understanding of what the Great Tribulation is. The Great Tribulation is marked by an outbreak of "Peace and Security!"  During this time of DECEPTION among the nations, the Bible reveals, "Why are the nations agitated And the peoples muttering an empty thing?  The kings of the earth take their stand And high officials gather together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one." (Psalms 2:1-2)   The Presence of the Son of of Man began in 1914. "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.  All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." (Matthew 24:7-8)   "For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the Presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:27) Are you gaining the understanding that these things are fulfilled in a Spiritual Manner? Ever since 1914, right-hearted ones have been witnessing the Presence of the Son of man. After 2034, the wicked will also start to gain the understanding that they are really dying and lament all the way to everlasting destruction.   As the Last Days come to their conclusion and the seperating work is completed, even the wicked will SEE but after it is too late! Yes, the Revealing of the Son of Man will soon begin for the 'ungodly' as we head into Christ Millennial Reign.   What is the 'sudden destruction' that comes upon those, once the pangs of distress comes to their end? The Bible reveals it in this manner: "And this is the scourge with which Jehovah will scourge all the peoples who wage war against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot away while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot away in their sockets, and their tongues will rot away in their mouths." (Zechariah 14:12) Those who are figuratively hurled into the lake of fire, die 'the second death' which symbolizes everlasting destruction.    Once 'the wicked' witness the sign of the Son of Man, that's our brothers and sisters (the sheep) living beyond the 70 or 80 years. Gog of Magog will come to destroy God's Name People. At the time, the goats within our 144,000 Congregations will have been separated to join all those on the outside. "In that day confusion from Jehovah will be widespread among them; and each one will grab hold of the hand of his companion, and his hand will come against the hand of his companion." (Zechariah 14:13) So it is written, so it shall come to pass! IF you love Justice, and hate Injustice, why not take a stand today by asking for a Free Home Bible Study or take an Online Bible Study Lesson?   The Great Tribulation. What is it? The Manifestation of Christ's Presence... is upon us. Don't give up, You have a reason to keep on living... The Second Coming... what you don't know, but should...

Wow, more dates, to pretend you actually know something.
I'm waiting for the day you tell us that you are inspired of God's Holy Spirit. 
The problem here is that the International Bible Students split in fractions, and Rutherford took over part of it and made the Organisation.  Now it seems that even Russell wasn't inspired by God. Some JWs on this forum say Russell wasn't even of the Anointed.
So, where do you draw the line as to who are and who are not Christ's brothers ?  Or are you just a salesman for the GB's multi Org businesses ? 

God’s Kingdom Quietly Removes Its Enemies since 1919.... Prophecies point to the 'timing' of the coming days as a Day of Vindication of Jehovah's Name. There are two years within Jehovah's Organization that can give us insight to the timing of the coming Vindication. Knowing these dates do not give anyone divine protection or superpowers. Matter of fact, knowing such dates and understanding them can make one more accountable to Jehovah. Serving Jehovah with a Full Heart no matter what date comes and goes should be our Priority.   If you followed and read articles I have written in the past, you well know about the years 1914 and 2034. But those are not the two years I am speaking about. The two dates I am speaking about are the ones that certain events occurred within God's organization here on the earth. (1919 and 1935) Those on the outside will result in (Revelation 22:15) as the 'allotted time limits' come to their end.   In 1919, shortly after the Last Days began in 1914, Jesus Christ would direct the angels to bundle up the weeds in order to be pitched into the fire to be burned up. The weeds are Apostate Christians whom stopped associating with Christ's Brothers. Today, those who have followed the steps of Judas Iscariot are referred to as the man of lawlessness who make the false claim they are part of the 'Body of Christ'. (2 Thessalonians 2:3) These ones are being collected on an individual basis in the time of the end for undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. In the same manner that the tree of life was protected by angels and a flaming sword, these impostors also known as the sons of disobedience restlessly attack the Body of Christ that is still earthly. (Rev 12:17) This attack will soon be cut short as the remnant are suddenly summoned to Heaven. (Matthew 24:22)   1935 is also a year that has significance. That was the time when an earthly hope was revealed in the Book of Revelation as to having Survivors of the Great Tribulation. (Rev 7:14) Just before the sudden departure of the remnant, the King begins to mark and extend the Blessings of God's Kingdom with good health and life in a gradual manner. Those who are marked, simply keep on living from the Conclusion of the Last Days into Christ's Millennial Reign. It's Spiritual. In a few short years, the wicked will begin to noticed that God's Named People are no longer getting sick. Why aren't they dying? With mouths of foam and fraught and delusion, they slowly slide away into the Second Death. Those who join the forces of Gog of Magog will be met with angels and the flaming sword on a massive scale to protect those who have washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb.   When Jehovah approached Noah at the age of 480 by the means of an angel, Noah didn't know of the time allotted to build the ark. It's not likely he even had a family at this point. We only learn of the 'allotted time limit' when Moses wrote about it in (Gen 6:3) Jesus Christ kept reminding his disciples, 'just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the Son of man:' (Luke 17:26) This gives us strong indication that those who are cut off have no idea of what is going on. But notice this next scripture, "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Daniel 12:10)   As these time periods come and go, the wicked who have No Understanding will become more vile but the scripture promises,  'they will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain'. (Isaiah 65:25)  This scripture proves that there will come a point in time that Jehovah will not allow 'the wicked' to do harm or cause ruin in the coming paradise nor allow his Holy Name to be profaned.    Read more...

The word “soul” in the Bible is a translation of the Hebrew word neʹphesh and the Greek word psy·kheʹ. The Hebrew word literally means “a creature that breathes,” and the Greek word means “a living being.” Many Bible translations render the words neʹphesh and psy·kheʹ differently according to the context, using words such as soul, life, person, creature, or body.

"And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7)

Adam wasn't given a soul as many religions teach, but rather, Adam, Became a Living Soul. Notice how others translated this verse @ (Genesis 2:7) | New International Version Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
 
Young's Literal Translation And Jehovah God formeth the man -- dust from the ground, and breatheth into his nostrils breath of life, and the man becometh a living creature. American Standard Version And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. World English Bible Yahweh God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. NWT And Jehovah God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person.
The punishment for disobedience was Death, not an eternal life of punishment. "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:17)
 
"In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”(Genesis 3:19) “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” —Ezekiel 18: 4, 20, King James Version.
“Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.” (Exodus 31:14 KJV)

Note: Although many Bible translations use the terms “dead body” or “dead person” in some verses, the original Hebrew uses the word neʹphesh, or “soul.”


Many Religions teach that the soul never dies. It that was true, then the Resurrection would be an unnecessary act.
Jesus said to her: “Your brother will rise.” Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (John 11:23-25) The Apostles Paul also stated, "And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a Resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." (Acts 24:15) Is There Hope for the Dead?

Many today are slowly returning to dust in the same manner as Adam and Eve.  Hope this helps. Just accept it and try to live a quiet and peaceful life. There's no turning back. However, by looking at your responses to Jehovah's Word, I SEE that you are weeping and gnashing your teeth as you seemingly  being tormented.  lol....  
Inherited death doesn't bring everlasting harm... the second death does!  The time you have left...(barring an unseen occurrence) is all that you have... you have passed the point of no return awhile back... 
Drink... Eat... for tomorrow... etc. etc. etc.

Is Christ the Angel of God’s Presence?

“In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the Angel of his Presence saved them" (Isaiah 63:9 ASV) “Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him” (Exodus 23:20-21 KJV)

"He was oppressed and he let himself be afflicted, But he would not open his mouth. He was brought like a sheep to the slaughter, Like a ewe that is silent before its shearers, And he would not open his mouth." (Isaiah 53:7)

"And he was given a burial place with the wicked, And with the rich in his death, Although he had done no wrong And there was no deception in his mouth." (Isaiah 53:9)

To deny the Angel of God’s Presence you would have to reject Jesus Christ as the Word of God. “In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the Angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bore them and carried them all the days of old.” (Isaiah 63:9 ASV)
 
You would have to reject that Jesus Christ was afflicted with our sins.
  You would have to reject that Jesus Christ is our Salvation.
  You would have to reject that Jesus Christ loved us or felt pity for us.
  You would have to reject that Jesus Christ is our Redeemer.
  You would have to reject that Jesus Christ died for our sins once and for all time.
Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying: “This is my Son, the one who has been chosen. Listen to him.” (Luke 9:35) Accepting Jesus as the Christ can add a profound meaning for your Life. Jesus warned the wicked Religious Leaders of his day, “For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” (Matthew 23:39)

To this very day, opposers of Jesus Christ continue to reject the Messenger in (Exodus 23:20-21 KJV) received the name Jesus which actually means ‘Jehovah is Salvation’.

Such ones are abandoned, because they have rejected the Angel of God's Presence that was sent in God's Name and therefore, have grieved his Holy Spirit. "But they Rebelled, and grieved his Holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, [and] himself fought against them." (Isaiah 63:10)

NOTE * Those who have grieved his Holy Spirit are abandoned in the sense of dying the second death of everlasting destruction in the same manner as Adam and Eve, they are returning to dust. It is considered the unforgivable sin. Amen.

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.
This organization is already guilty of being false prophets, dude, your continuing the tradition of prophecying.

The same ones who express the Granville Sharp rule also tend to express the belief in the deity of Christ.  But later deny the Deity of Christ when they find it is a feminine noun.    John 1:1c is speaking of the Word's qualitative sense for theos, not his Identity.  It's a divine creation since Jesus was begotten as with labor pains. (Proverbs 8:22-31)
Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Short Definition: deity, Godhead
Definition: deity, Godhead.
 

 
Such ones are Saul-like...I don't think Jesus will  personally visit them to turn them around.... 

Hebrews 1:1-8
Here trinitarians make the claim Jesus is God which again goes against their own trinity theology of three sperate persons. They claim the heir of all things is God. So the question arises if Jesus is God then why create a heir in order to deceive people. Aren't heirs begotten?  Again, trinitarians will reject the words of Christ at (John 3:16) at all Cost.  
They claim God 'has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs.' (Hebrews 1:4)  So at one time God was worse than the angels?  God only became better than the angels because he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs? Who gave God his Name?  An angel??
“And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.”  Whose angels??  If Jesus is God then who is telling God's angels to do something?  Don't the angels know who God is???  I guess not if you are to believe the trinitarian.
The answer to which angel at (Hebrews 1:5) is at (Hebrews 5:5) So, too, the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but was glorified by the One who said to him: “You are my son; today I have become your father.”  Notice Jesus did not glorify himself but he was glorified by Jehovah, the One who was able to save him from death. 
But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth (Hebrews 1:6)  Who bring his Firstborn again? Jehovah God...  this is where the trinitarian claim God is Firstborn of All Creation. Ummm... I thought God was eternal??  Of course rejecting (John 3:16) at all Cost.
During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. (Hebrews 1:6)  So how is it that God offered up supplications and also petitions and to whom?  Why is God depending on someone else to save him??  
They also claim Jesus is God because God is his throne.  No it means that Jesus has Jehovah's backing and support....
They ALWAYS stop short of the next scripture when they know very well what it says.  You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.” (Hebrews 1:9)
If Jesus is God then who is this other God anointing God and exulting God?  Why would God need to be exulted?  I thought the 3  sperate persons were co- equal?  No. No. Jesus is God they exclaim... you must believe Jesus is God to be save!!  I ask what scripture is that?   The trinity is like a three legged dog chasing it's own tail.  It doesn't fit.. you must acquit.

In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28)  Thomas never stated that Jesus is God. The scriptures clearly tell us that "No Man has Seen God at Any time" (John 1:18)
The actually scripture reads "You are the Lord of me and the God of me."   Meaning that Jesus takes on the Godly Seat of Judgment.  https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/20-28.htm
"For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son," (John 5:22)  However, Jesus has 144,000 co rulers does he not?  
1 Corinthians 6:3  Do you not know that we will judge angels?

Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’ 1 Timothy 3:16
Remember, as in Titus 2:13, the trinitarian reject the words of Christ in (John 3:16). Since they don't believe that God gave or sent his only begotten son, they try to erase Christ altogether by claiming,  "
God was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’
So how is it that God was declared righteous in spirit and to whom?  Who is checking Jehovah??
Why would God need godly devotion and to whom? Angels?? Really? God had to appear to Angels to be declared righteous?  Isn't the He in 1 Timothy 3:16 speaking about God's Only Begotten Son as the Word of God?   God is not even in the scripture as they false claim... 

I have encountered such challenges. Trinitarians often will dump on their three separate persons makes one God theology by switching to modalism. (ie... one part is wholly god)  which actually weakens their theory of the three in one concept.
One would simply look at the scripture and surrounding scriptures for context.  In Titus we read "while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ," (Titus 2:13)
The scripture in Titus 2:11 reads "For the undeserved kindness of God has been manifested, bringing salvation to all sorts of people."
So how did this undeserved kindness of God manifest?   The trinitarian does not believe that God sent his only begotten son and therefore reject Jesus own words at "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
They reject the undeserved kindness of God by claiming God is Begotten or created himself in order to send himself.  Of course, we both know that God is eternal and sent his Word.  
Then we also have the Greek which helps clarify the Great God underserved kindness by means of Jesus Christ.  Titus 2:13 is actually speaking of the appearing or manifestation of God's GLORY and ends with "and Savior of us Christ Jesus."  https://biblehub.com/interlinear/titus/2-13.htm
Other scripture that fit into this spiritual thought. (John 17:1, John 12:23, John 13:31- 32, John 1:14)
 

 

It is almost palpable at this point.