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    BroRando got a reaction from Jesus.defender in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    This is where trintarians reject that Jesus was Begotten, they then reject that Jesus is Firstborn.  They also reject Jesus is Pre-eminent.  Notice the feminine nouns that are attributed to Christ to show he was First to be Created. "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;"
    Strong's Concordance ktisis: creation (the act or the product) Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: ktisis
    Phonetic Spelling: (ktis'-is)
    Short Definition: creation, creature, institution
    Definition: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.
    "Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. From the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no deep waters,  When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, When there were no springs overflowing with water., When there were no springs overflowing with water." (Proverbs 8:22-24)  Brought forth means, made, created, begotten. always of Divine Work. (ie...deity of Christ)  
    "However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Corinthians 1:24) 
    Strong's Concordance sophia: skill, wisdom Original Word: σοφία, ας, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: sophia
    Phonetic Spelling: (sof-ee'-ah)
    Short Definition: wisdom
    Definition: wisdom, insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence.
    The same ones who reject Jesus as "the Christ, the son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16) Reject the "Deity of the Christ."        Strong's Concordance
    theotés: deity Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: theotés
    Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
    Short Definition: deity, Godhead
    Definition: deity, Godhead.
     
    "In the Beginning was the Word"  Notice beginning is attributed to whom?  THE WORD.
    Strong's Concordance arché: beginning, origin Original Word: ἀρχή, ῆς, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: arché
    Phonetic Spelling: (ar-khay')
    Short Definition: ruler, beginning
    Definition: (a) rule (kingly or magisterial), (b) plur: in a quasi-personal sense, almost: rulers, magistrates, (c) beginning.
    HELPS Word-studies 746 arxḗ – properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial(starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief(foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").
    Therefore, the scriptures are unified that Jesus is "a god" which refers to his Deity in John 1:1c.  
    Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
    Transliteration: theos
    Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
    Short Definition: God, a god
    Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.
    "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Daniel 12:10)
    Therefore, when the wicked hear and see these things they begin to "bark" against the Christ. "Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.’ (Rev 22:16)
    And such ones turn to attack the Christ through their Anti Christian Dogma.  "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)

     
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    This is where trintarians reject that Jesus was Begotten, they then reject that Jesus is Firstborn.  They also reject Jesus is Pre-eminent.  Notice the feminine nouns that are attributed to Christ to show he was First to be Created. "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;"
    Strong's Concordance ktisis: creation (the act or the product) Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: ktisis
    Phonetic Spelling: (ktis'-is)
    Short Definition: creation, creature, institution
    Definition: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.
    "Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. From the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no deep waters,  When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, When there were no springs overflowing with water., When there were no springs overflowing with water." (Proverbs 8:22-24)  Brought forth means, made, created, begotten. always of Divine Work. (ie...deity of Christ)  
    "However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Corinthians 1:24) 
    Strong's Concordance sophia: skill, wisdom Original Word: σοφία, ας, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: sophia
    Phonetic Spelling: (sof-ee'-ah)
    Short Definition: wisdom
    Definition: wisdom, insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence.
    The same ones who reject Jesus as "the Christ, the son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16) Reject the "Deity of the Christ."        Strong's Concordance
    theotés: deity Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: theotés
    Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
    Short Definition: deity, Godhead
    Definition: deity, Godhead.
     
    "In the Beginning was the Word"  Notice beginning is attributed to whom?  THE WORD.
    Strong's Concordance arché: beginning, origin Original Word: ἀρχή, ῆς, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: arché
    Phonetic Spelling: (ar-khay')
    Short Definition: ruler, beginning
    Definition: (a) rule (kingly or magisterial), (b) plur: in a quasi-personal sense, almost: rulers, magistrates, (c) beginning.
    HELPS Word-studies 746 arxḗ – properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial(starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief(foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").
    Therefore, the scriptures are unified that Jesus is "a god" which refers to his Deity in John 1:1c.  
    Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
    Transliteration: theos
    Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
    Short Definition: God, a god
    Definition: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.
    "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Daniel 12:10)
    Therefore, when the wicked hear and see these things they begin to "bark" against the Christ. "Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices lying.’ (Rev 22:16)
    And such ones turn to attack the Christ through their Anti Christian Dogma.  "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)

     
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Space Merchant in BIBLE PROOFS OF THE TRINITY   
    Ah ummm...  what you preach is not Biblical.  (Matthew 28:19 is a Catholic Forgery)   The Apostate Religion removed the Words of Jesus Christ and inserted it's own doctrine of a False Christ, which is the trinity.  The trinity opposes the teaching of Jesus Christ.  It promotes a false baptism of accepting the mark of the Beast.  His number is a man's number, 666.
    Who would reject the Baptism in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ?  The Answer may surprise you. In fulfillment of prophecy Jesus stated, “And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14)
    The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
    “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.”
    Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger:
    He makes this confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19. “The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome.” — Joseph Ratzinger (pope Benedict XVI) Introduction to Christianity: 1968 edition, pp. 82, 83.
    Peter never baptized anyone in the Name of the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost nor did anyone else, how did Peter and others baptize Believers?   The ANSWER will Blow Your Little Minds.
    Peter said to them: “Repent and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit." (Act 2:38)
    The Scripture that Trinitarians Falsified!
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    BroRando reacted to Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    I had to speak with a Trinity believer the other day and the conservation goes as followed:
    Who is God?
    Jesus.
    Ok so who is the mediator?
    Jesus
    Who raised the Christ from the Dead?
    God.
    But you just said Jesus is the medator and that Jesus is God? If Jesus is God who did he raise from the dead and who is his mediator.
    in a high tone of voice: JESUS IS GOD AND HE RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD
    But the bible says God raised Jesus from the dead, making him Lord and whatnot.
    Who is the one who died?
    Jesus
    Who raised Jesus from the dead?
    Jesus
    >_< Jesus is the Son
    Is Apostle Paul and John lairs?
    No.
    Then why do you not believe God raised Jesus from the dead and that Paul addresses Jesus as a mediator to men to mankind?
    No answer. begins to insult me for speaking bible truth.
    (it leads to nonsense and some power ranger-sque evading tactics to not answer the question)
    And then he goes on to Christian/Religious Infighting
    You deny Jesus and all that jazz, yet he cannot answer questions that derive from the bible itself.
     
    Trinitarians are like circus clowns, they do one thing, the next second, they do something else, in a sense, they do the same with the bible, adding things in there and twisting what the scriptures even means, leads to utter nonsense.
    It comes to a point that even Muslims have to teach and refute Trinity believers on their own bible.
     
     
    Other than that, good post, you do justice to those who are fed up with the Trinity, the very confusing doctrine that is part of the Christian decline problem.
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Jesus.defender in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    @Jesus.defender Well Sir. You have no understanding because you have been counted 'wicked' and have already took the number of the beast.  .  
    Jesus never claims to be the I AM THAT I AM... The "I am" is God's Representative.  I'm not witnessing to you for you to gain salvation but rather that the 'wicked' be counted as wicked so the righteous can go on living on a paradise Earth as you are being Destroyed.  "Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." (Psalms 37:10-11)
    The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it."(Psalms 37:29)  
    God is a title that can assigned in the Godhead. The Godhead is not a person nor it is in the trinity doctrine.  The Godhead is a Divine Arrangement of Authority,  Jesus is the Word of God and called the Great Prophet, Paul also referred to himself as the I AM also and so did the angel Gabriel.
    "I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you on the way and to bring you into the place that I have prepared.  Pay attention to him, and obey his voice. Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgressions, because my name is in him." (Exodus 23:20-21)
    If God  is "I AM that I AM" then who is the angel that appeared to Moses in the burning Bush.  Have you never read that No Man has Seen God at any time except his only begotten son??  If the angel would contain God's Name with in him, would that be "I am" ?  God's Name is Jehovah and God made Jesus Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:36)  Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation" .... my name is in him." (Exodus 23:20-21)
    Jesus is the Lord, the Angel of God's Presence, the one to inspect the Temple. "Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts." (Malachi 3:1 Darby)  
    The wicked have no understanding. "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it." (Matthew 23:37)
     
    To reject Jesus Christ as the Angel of God’s Presence you would have to reject this scripture, the Word of God.  “In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the Angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bore them and carried them all the days of old.” (Isaiah 63:9 Darby)
    1) You would have to reject that Jesus Christ was afflicted with our sins.
    2) You would have to reject that Jesus Christ is our Salvation.
    3) You would have to reject that Jesus Christ loved us or felt pity for us.
    4) You would have to reject that Jesus Christ is our Redeemer.
    5) You would have to reject that Jesus Christ died for our sins once and for all time.
    “Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him” (Exodus 23:20-21 KJV)
    Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying: “This is my Son, the one who has been chosen. Listen to him.” (Luke 9:35)   Accepting Jesus as the Christ can add a profound meaning for your Life. 
    Jesus when translated means ‘Jehovah is Salvation’. “For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” (Matthew 23:39)  Learn the truth about Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    "Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand." (Daniel 12:10)  Those counted wicked are already dying the second death for denying Jesus as 'the Christ, the son of the living God' (Matthew 16:16)
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    " I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’” (Rev 16:16)  You're no Christian but an IMPOSTOR.   "So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." (Hebrews 1:4)  If I was to believe your false theology that Jesus is God, then can we conclude that God  has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs??  The snake is still twisting scripture. So God was worse than the angels until an angel gave God a Name?  Koo koo for Coco Puffs...
    "And though my physical condition was a trial for you, you did not treat me with contempt or disgust; but you received me like an angel of God, like Christ Jesus" (Galatians 4:14) 
     
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    BroRando reacted to Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    @Brother Rando The fun factor is, Lord Jesus Christ affirmation of the law of which he was brought up into as a child defeats the Trinity doctrine catastrophically (Mark 12:28-34; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Deuteronomy 6:4), as well as Jesus' position as a mediator regarding both practitioners and benefactors. This also  goes for the Testimony of John the Baptist and Simon Peter, both of whom who bore witness to God the Father speaking to Jesus, as well as the crowd as seen in John 12, in addition to Paul's affirmation of the Law and what he had sent to the Early Christian Church and clearly states Jesus not being considered equal to God in Philippians 2:6, onward you see of whom Paul was referring to, lastly, we have Jesus himself affirming that the Father is indeed his God (John 20:17, Revelations 3:2) as well as to the very end of his life, he cried out to God (Matthew 27:46, foretelling - Psalms 22:1,Isaiah 53:10, Mark 15:34).
     
    That being said, both the Law and mediatorship ultimately destroys the Trinitarian claim, for everyone is aware that Jesus had read the Old Testament and knows about who His God is and what His God had done for the people.
    People know such truths, but they refuse to listen.
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    BroRando got a reaction from Space Merchant in The truth about Isaiah 9:6 and whom it reveals…   
    The Revealing of scripture, is that most can’t handle ‘the truth’.
    “For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)
    Notice the scripture doesn’t state ‘the child’ or ‘the son’ but a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us.  At the time this scripture was penned it was a prophecy that hid the identity of the one to be born. Since all angels are referred to as ‘sons’ or ‘gods’, Satan had no clue who this person would be, until he tempted him in the desert by evil questions.
    In the Greek Septuagint (Wonderful Counselor) was rendered ‘Angel of Great Counsel‘. (Mighty God) was rendered ‘Strong One‘. (Eternal Father) read ‘Father of the New Age‘ and(Prince of Peace) was ‘Angel of Peace’.
    In the beginning there were two morning stars(Job 38:7), both angels were created with one being begotten in the Beginning of Creation by the Creator Jehovah. The only begotten angel would have the Name that means Godlike or one who is like God?
    In the Book of Daniel, Michael the Archangel would be called to help Gabriel in a fight with Satan, the Prince of Persia. Gabriel reports to Daniel how God’s Kingdom would be used to bring the earthly governments to nothing in (Daniel 2:44)
    Gabriel later identified the Ruler of God’s Kingdom to Daniel by stating, “During that time Miʹcha·el will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.  And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt.” (Daniel 12:1-2) Notice when the great prince stands, he stands in being exalted to Kingship, having angels and the authority over them. This standing would cause worldwide chaos.
    Gabriel goes on to tell Daniel, “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end.  Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.” (Daniel 12:9-10)
    “And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el and HIS angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled  but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.” (Rev 12:7-9)
    Notice the following scripture about the authority of Christ? (Rev 12:10)  I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!”
    Archangel comes from the root word arche’ which means Beginning Messenger or Chief Messenger and is identified as the Word of God in John 1:1…. “In the beginning was the Word”
    Michael was given a Name. (Philippians 2:6) “Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake”
    (Philippians 2:8) For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground—  and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”
    Michael inherited a Name. “So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs.” (Hebrews 1:4)
    (Hebrews 1:9) “You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”
    Jesus said to him: “Why do you call ME good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18)
    About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46)
    Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17)
    “I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.” (Rev 22:16)
    Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts. (Malachi 3:1)
    Even Paul identifies this angel as the ‘I am’. “For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve,” egō eimi
    “I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you on the way and to bring you into the place that I have prepared.  Pay attention to him, and obey his voice. Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgressions, because my name is in him.” (Exodus 23:20-21) This angel not only leads but can pardon sins, if not he can destroy the sinners.
    (1 Corinthians 10:4) And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”
    (1 Corinthians 10:9-10)) Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.”
    “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
    “Ah! What have we to do with you, Jesus the Naz·a·reneʹ? Did you come to destroy us? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God.” (Luke 4:34)
    Daniel 12:2 is about this scripture to those waking up in the dust. “the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16)
    If I were to show you all the scriptures about Jesus being an angel, I guess I could just give any old Bible and tell you to just read it…..
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    BroRando got a reaction from Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    When sharing a teaching from Christ, trinitarians tend to reject the Words of Christ, and then substitute foreign teaching contrary to what Jesus Christ said.  "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."(Mark 10:18)
    Trinitarians hate this scripture because Jesus Christ said it.  They claim he was wrong and that HE is God alone.
    Pay attention to the beginning   "Why do you call ME good?"  Then they say you are saying Jesus is bad!!  I'm simply showing what Jesus did say.  Please stop putting words in Jesus mouth and claim I'm the one saying it.  IT's DISHONEST.
    If Jesus is God alone, then what happened to 'the three separate persons"? Then getting louder they start to scream INSULTS.
    If jesus is God, then why does Jesus state  "No one is good--except God alone."
     
    If Jesus was God then, wouldn't Jesus have said "thank You"????  "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."(Mark 10:18) is a scripture that trinitarians forgot to delete from the Bible. 
     
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Space Merchant in The trinity and it’s false theology.   
    You may be surprised to find out that the trinity doctrine does not accept Jesus Christ.  It promotes a false gospel that ‘three separate persons make up God’ which is unbiblical. Therefore, it is not unusual to come across an apostate trinitarian who deny the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    When Jesus Christ stated that ‘God is a Spirit’ in (John 4:24) trinitarians proclaim that Christ was lying because their doctrine teaches that God is made up of three separate PERSONS.  In John 17:1 Jesus addresses his Father in prayer, he said: “Father,… and in John 17:3  he states, “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God”  Was Jesus addressing God the Father or the trinity itself?
    Trinitarians proclaim he was not addressing the trinity itself, but God the Father.  Wouldn’t that prove that the trinity is a False God?  “He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god.” (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
    As Jesus continue his teachings he states, “God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24)  Notice those worshiping HIM is in singular?  Not ‘us’ ‘we’ they’ ‘them’ or even ME.  Since trinitarians admit that the trinity is not God itself, aren’t trinitarians worshipping ‘gods’?  None of them worship God the Father alone who Jesus claims to be the only true God in (John 17:3)  Jesus Christ continues, “Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.” (John 4:23)
    According to Jesus, only the Father was to be worshipped, not a trinity of ‘gods’.  Jesus made his Father’s Name known to his disciples. “I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.” (John 17:6)  Jesus even went as far to teach his disciples to pray this way: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.” 
    If you take a closer look at the trinity doctrine, NONE of the Persons have a NAME.  It’s a generic formula borrowed from Pagan Worship. Trinitarians shout and yell that, Jesus is God the Son in the trinity.  But the trinity itself simply doesn’t give witness about Jesus.  When asked to show the doctrine they often turn red and say that I must simply believe them.  Then I ask, since the trinity doesn’t state that Jesus is God the Son, show one scripture that states that. They hee and haw in frustration and begin to taunt and curse not able to find a single verse. You won’t find God the Son or God the Holy Spirit in the Bible because it simply isn’t.  There is a HUGE difference from God the Son and son of God.  If Jesus is the son of God, then whose son is he?  The trinity doesn’t have three sons does it?
    Jesus is not the only person to give witness about his God and Father.  The Apostles would greet one another with a similar phrase.  “Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,” (1 Peter 1:3)   The trinity omits the Name of God, and it omits the Name of Christ.  Matter of fact, here is what the scriptures state about the trinity. “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” (2 John 7)
    Have you accepted the mark of the Beast and not even know it?  In Ancient times, the trinity was symbolized by three snakes, each snake would chase its own tail looking like the number 6.   A time is coming, if you refuse to worship the trinity, you will be put to death.  “And it was permitted to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who refuse to worship the image of the wild beast.” (Rev 13:15)  
    The trinity is the Biggest Occult ever, with a Worldwide membership of 2.8 Billion People and growing!  Mankind who are both weak or strong, slave or king, such ones march in the streets to promote or protest.  They place themselves above others claiming they have rights that no one else can have.  They proclaim they even have the right to end life, should they carry a life inside them. They make themselves godlike and others have to bend to their superiority.  (Read 2 Timothy 3:1-5)
    Those who deny Wisdom, have actually denied Christ and have already accepted the mark of the Beast willingly.  “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,” (Hebrews 10:26)
    Feel free to contact me if you wish to leave the occult of the trinity.  There is HELP.
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    BroRando got a reaction from YanekCastell in Will the real verse of (Matthew 28:19) ever be revealed?   
    Will the Real Verse of (Matthew 28:19) please stand up?
    "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations in MY Name, ?teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:19)
    Allow Scripture to interpret Scripture.  Luke 24:47 translations: Use any translation you like....  
    New International Version
    and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    New Living Translation
    It was also written that this message would be proclaimed in the authority of his name to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem: 'There is forgiveness of sins for all who repent.'

    English Standard Version
    and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    Berean Study Bible
    and in His name repentance and forgiveness of sins will be proclaimed to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem.

    Berean Literal Bible
    and repentance and forgiveness of sins to be proclaimed in His name to all nations, having begun from Jerusalem.

    New American Standard Bible 
    and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    King James Bible
    And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    and repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 

    International Standard Version
    and then repentance and forgiveness of sins is to be proclaimed in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 

    NET Bible
    and repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    New Heart English Bible
    and that repentance leading to forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Aramaic Bible in Plain English
    And that conversion to the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name in all the nations, and the beginning would be at Jerusalem.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    Scripture also says that by the authority of Jesus people would be told to turn to God and change the way they think and act so that their sins will be forgiven. This would be told to people from all nations, beginning in the city of Jerusalem.

    New American Standard 1977 
    and that repentance for forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    Jubilee Bible 2000
    and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    King James 2000 Bible
    And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    American King James Version
    And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    American Standard Version
    and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    And that penance and remission of sins should be preached in his name, unto all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 

    Darby Bible Translation
    and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations beginning at Jerusalem.

    English Revised Version
    and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Weymouth New Testament
    and that proclamation would be made, in His name, of repentance and forgiveness of sins to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem.

    World English Bible
    and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Young's Literal Translation
    and reformation and remission of sins to be proclaimed in his name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem:
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    BroRando reacted to BroRando in Will the real verse of (Matthew 28:19) ever be revealed?   
    Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples,  and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31-32)  https://lnkd.in/dmagShE
    Learn what Scripture trinitarians falsified by Removing the Name of Jesus Christ and inserting a Pagan Generic Formula which Exposes the Great Apostasy of the Anti-Christs!   Peter is found baptizing some three thousand whom became  believers just 10 days after the Commandment Directive that Jesus Christ gave.  
    Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit." (Acts 2:26)  The Scripture that Trinitarians Falsified!
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    BroRando got a reaction from The Librarian in Who Really Controls the World?   
    Do you think it is . . .
    God?
    humankind?
    someone else?

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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires  and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.” (2 Peter 3:3-4)
    Be careful Ann, those tossed in the lake of fire do not come out.... everlasting destruction is everlasting.
    " For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God;  and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water,  by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people." (2 Peter 3:5-7) 
    "Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.  He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god.  Do you not remember that when I was still with you, I used to tell you these things?" (2 Thessalonians 2:3-5)
    Your kind is being revealed.... you're not a sister.... you're not of our sort. ( 1 John 2:19)  
     

     
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from The Librarian in Is Christ the Angel of Wisdom?   
    Several scriptures that may reveal the identity of the Angel of Wisdom.  “Your servant Jo?ab has done this to change the appearance of things, but my lord has wisdom like that of the angel of the true God and knows all that is happening in the land.” (2 Samuel 14:20)
    “He is the Maker of the earth by his power, The One who established the productive land by his wisdom And who stretched out the heavens by his understanding.” (Jeremiah 10:12) and (Jeremiah 51:15)
    “Jehovah founded the earth in wisdom. He solidly established the heavens in discernment.” (Proverbs 3:19)
    “Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. ?From ancient times I was installed, From the start, from times earlier than the earth. ?When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth,” (Proverbs 8:22-24)
    “I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.” (Proverbs 8:31)
    “For the one finding me will find life, And he receives approval from Jehovah. ?But the one who ignores me harms himself, And those who hate me love death.” (Proverbs 8:35-36)
    “Wisdom has built her house, she has hewn out her seven pillars:” (Proverbs 9:1)
    “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under {her wings}! But you did not want it.” (Matthew 23:37)
    “For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve,” (Acts 27:23 KJV)
    “As for the sacred secret of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars mean the angels of the seven congregations, and the seven lampstands mean the seven congregations.” (Rev 1:20)
    “After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory.” (Rev 18:1)
    “And my temptation which was in my flesh you despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 4:14)
    “Then the angel of the true God who was going ahead of the camp of Israel departed and went to their rear, and the pillar of cloud that was in front of them moved to the rear and stood behind them.” (Exodus 14:19)
    “Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes were like a fiery flame,?and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters.” (Rev 1:14-15)
    “Then Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush. As he kept looking, he saw that the thornbush was on fire, and yet the thornbush was not consumed.” (Exodus 3:2)
    “Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 1:24)  “Come, eat my bread And share in drinking the wine that I have mixed. ?Leave behind your inexperience and live; Walk forward in the way of understanding.” (Proverbs 9:5-6)

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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view   
    Here! Here!  
    1914 Problematic? Not at all!
    By Brother Rando, August 7 in Bible Discussions 
     
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    BroRando reacted to bruceq in ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view   
    https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/#?insight[search_id]=27de0db2-f476-4aa1-a186-9fb992bb3358&insight[search_result_index]=11 
    ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from Christendoms point of view.
    Rev. 6:4 "Take peace away from the EARTH" 
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    BroRando got a reaction from The Librarian in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.” (Daniel 12:8-10) There was a sure hope for the holy ones! Rather than being destroyed, they would be whitened, blessed with a clean standing before Jehovah God. (Malachi 3:1-3) Their insight into spiritual matters would enable them to keep clean in GodÂ’s eyes. In contrast, the wicked would refuse to understand spiritual things.
     
    We are at a time when the preaching work is coming to its  conclusion.  If a person doesn't understand 607 BCE or 1914 CE it's with a reason.  Of course Jerusalem was sacked in 587 BCE, however, those with insight understand that the pure worship of Jehovah was interrupted in 607 BCE when the priests were slaughtered.  That's when the trampling of nations began for 2520 years. The end of the Gentile times was marked with the Presence of Christ in 1914 CE... Christ would rule in the midst of his enemies for a period of time before the revealing of his Presence to 'wicked mankind'.  The great tribulation is the manifestation of Christ Presence.  "Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence." (2 Thessalonians 2:8)   It's SPIRITUAL...  the wicked simply die the second death at an appointed time, an everlasting death in the same manner as Adam and Eve never to be resurrected.  
    The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their end. When Armageddon is about to begin, the son of man's presence is finally revealed to wicked mankind, and "all the peoples of the earth will have to see that Jehovah's name has been called upon you, and they will indeed be afraid of you." (Deut 28:10) 

    "then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation" (Matthew 24:30)   It's 'ungodly mankind' that laments, not God's Named people. (Deut 28:10) 

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    BroRando got a reaction from The Librarian in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    Fast Facts—Worldwide
    240—Lands where Jehovah’s Witnesses worship
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    10,115,264—Free home Bible courses conducted
    20,085,142—Attendance at the annual Memorial of Christ’s death
    119,485—Congregations
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/
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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.” (Daniel 12:8-10) There was a sure hope for the holy ones! Rather than being destroyed, they would be whitened, blessed with a clean standing before Jehovah God. (Malachi 3:1-3) Their insight into spiritual matters would enable them to keep clean in GodÂ’s eyes. In contrast, the wicked would refuse to understand spiritual things.
     
    We are at a time when the preaching work is coming to its  conclusion.  If a person doesn't understand 607 BCE or 1914 CE it's with a reason.  Of course Jerusalem was sacked in 587 BCE, however, those with insight understand that the pure worship of Jehovah was interrupted in 607 BCE when the priests were slaughtered.  That's when the trampling of nations began for 2520 years. The end of the Gentile times was marked with the Presence of Christ in 1914 CE... Christ would rule in the midst of his enemies for a period of time before the revealing of his Presence to 'wicked mankind'.  The great tribulation is the manifestation of Christ Presence.  "Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence." (2 Thessalonians 2:8)   It's SPIRITUAL...  the wicked simply die the second death at an appointed time, an everlasting death in the same manner as Adam and Eve never to be resurrected.  
    The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their end. When Armageddon is about to begin, the son of man's presence is finally revealed to wicked mankind, and "all the peoples of the earth will have to see that Jehovah's name has been called upon you, and they will indeed be afraid of you." (Deut 28:10) 

    "then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation" (Matthew 24:30)   It's 'ungodly mankind' that laments, not God's Named people. (Deut 28:10) 

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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    I just gave you the sign of the son of man.... "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)    Can you really see it??
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in 1914 Problematic? Not at all!   
    Being a student of Prophecy and intently studying the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, 1914 is only the beginning of the end. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. ?All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.” (Matthew 24:7-8)
    In 1914 the world as we know it, has entered into its death throes.  God’s Kingdom would slowly begin crushing all kingdoms of the earth. (Daniel 2:44)  Those inhabiting the earth would enter into an ‘allotted amount of time of distress'. “During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.” (Daniel 12:1)
    What is causing this ‘time of distress’?  “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled ?but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven.” (Rev 12:7-8)  “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (Rev 12:12)  Here’s an important teaching from Jesus Christ, he stated, “For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (Matthew 24:37)  Did you catch that?  So the presence of the Son of man will be.  Jesus Christ has been ruling from Heaven since 1914 and he compared his presence like the days of Noah!  Few people understand this, but the Days of Noah lasted 120 years. (Genesis 6:3)  Jesus continues, “For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, ?and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (Matthew 24:38-39)  Folks, the presence of the Son of man is now 103 years from 1914 and counting.  Yet, the World is taking no note.
    The Last Days must reach their full time allotted, which is 120 years.  1914 + 120 = 2034.   Since the Great Tribulation is Spiritual, many will  fall away from the faith. But it’s during this time period that the one’s separated to the right hand of Christ, will come out of the Great Tribulation as Survivors.  In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” (Rev 7:13)
    So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” (Rev 7:14)  “Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.” (Matthew 24:42)
    Armageddon is an act of undeserved kindness of removing the wicked by means of the second death.  Soon, those outside our interior rooms will be dying the second death in the same manner as Adam and Eve. 
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view   
    The sacred secret of the Last Days are only given to those whom already proven their faith in Jehovah and are willing to submit themselves to the appointed King of God's Kingdom.  The sign given by Jesus was to reveal his presence in Kingdom power.  The epiphany is the manifestation of his presence.  
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    BroRando got a reaction from Evacuated in Would you like to know the truth about Hell?   
    No, I was thinking of the Latin Vulgate,  I should have not mentioned  the Latin Vulgate when speaking about the LXX translators ....  they were Jewish, translating Hebrew into Greek.  They had no qualms about placing the Hebrew Tetragrammaton into the Greek scriptures, however, they refused to transliterate the Hebrew Tetragrammaton into other languages.   Here's some proof  from a fragment from the LXX translators that was recently found.  They are called the Dead Sea Scrolls.  If one is given insight, you see The Tetragrammaton in Hebrew, also Greek, and then replaced with LORD then the English Rendition (Jehovah). 

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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Would you like to know the truth about Hell?   
    That's was actually a pretty good response. However, I stand by  what I stated earlier that, "Jesus never spoke about (Hell).'   Both hades and hell were later additions into the scriptures.  It's not a difficult thing to find the word that was replaced by hades and hell.  One simply has to find the scripture.  In researching the teachings of Jesus, there are no scriptures that contain hades or hell in them.
    So now, we are forced to look into corrupted scripture to find the truth, what was struck out of the Bible and replaced with pagan dogma.
    So let's do just that: When I showed this following scripture to my Catholic Priest, he turned red and lit a cigarette. I asked why does the Bible show that "the Dead are Conscious of Nothing"? (Ecc 9:5)  Yet, you teach the dead are still alive and in Hades and Hell and suffering for all eternity?  I don' t get, if Jesus is the Resurrection then how can hades and hell be eternal? 
    "And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done." (Rev 20:13 ESV)
    "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Rev 20:13 KJV)
    "The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were judged according to their deeds." (Rev 20:13 NLT)  Some translations still have some remanence of truth in it. The truth can easily be backed by other scriptures.
    "Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out," (John 5:28)  What??? Finally the truth!!
    The fact, is the pagan insertions of hades and hell diluted the teaching of Jesus Christ and it gets people to deny the Resurrection. Hades and Hell replaced "the grave" and to believe anything else is from satan.  
     
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    BroRando got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Would you like to know the truth about Hell?   
    The Original Greek Scriptures of the New Testament are missing , hidden or destroyed.  And copies of them from the second to the seventh century seemed to be misplaced, hidden, or destroyed. I can't say with certainty that the LXX translators even knew what they were doing.  However, we have 20/20 onsight by backing into scriptures and able to connect the dots how Christendom traditions seeped in.   For example the Johanna Comma.  It's not found in the scripture until the 11 century.  That's a whole lot of time that went by don't you think?  It was first mentioned in handing writing as a 'note' in the 8th Century,  it became part of the scripture around the 11th century?  What's Up???
    Do the  LXX translators have the understanding of Sheol and the pit as the grave?  I really can't answer that, but I would assume the answer is in the negative since many translators falsely claimed Sheol was hell in the second century.  What I can say with certainty, is that the LXX translators had no idea what the Valley of Hinnom was, nor what it represented.   
    In this case, a person has to understand the Lie before they can move on to the truth. Sheol and the pit are mankind's common grave.  
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