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11 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

More so, you were mixing things before and during the Christ,

But God is the same and one, unchangeable  ... before and after Christ :)))

 For I am the Lord, I change not; ..... Malachi book

9 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

2Pe 2:12.

But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. 

I agree how people (me) do not understand many things and can blaspheme because that fact. Peter wrote those words some 4000 years after Adam and Eve stuff. So, he was also under reasoning that  prevailed in human society until then. Animals, he said, are "unreasoning", run by instinct... so animals, Peter conclude, are BORN to be caught and destroyed (slaughtered and eaten). That is in opposition to reports in Genesis where we can't see any verse who would said that God create animals to be born for for final purpose - to be destroyed. No verse, in this 3 chapters of Genesis, content some claim or possibility that animals are born to be hunted and eaten by other animals or by human.  But Bible say this:

    Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. ³⁰ And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. 

According to this direct JHVH words, it seems how Peter wrote information that is not quite full about relationship between human and animals and animals to animals from the begining!. He forget to mentioned how JHVH determined in advance what the food would be to humans and animals (fruit, plant and seed). Of course, reason for his mentioning animals in this chapter was another issue. I just want to put some other perspective about animals and their purpose and position before God and human. 

Peter based, i guess, his description about animals on other elements, as God's words to Noah, People Nature and People's mastering over nature and animal.

Yes, God created land animals and after he finished with those species, He said, Hey why not to create something different. I made several type of monkeys and this construction can be base for a little advanced Creature and I will give him much more than i gave to all other Dusts. I will put him to be Manager of all this.

At the end of Day 7, He not gave to Human more praise than to other animals. He "just" conclude how All created is Good.   :)))

5 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

He saw animals dying and knew about death.

Possibility exist, but no Bible verse speaking about this idea, known to me, in that way. No Bible report exist about what Adam knew about death or about some other things.

5 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

Therefore he understood what would happen if he disobeyed. 

This is also just in sphere of our interpretations. :)) and on our conclusions about what they ,supposedly, see, know, understand etc, .... based on our own experiences and/or based on conclusions made by people lived before us. 

5 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

Why did Jehovah not give or promise everlasting life to animals although they did not sin?

Where and when JHVH promised Adam such thing, everlasting life ? He promised him/them dead if eating fruit. We don't know what JHVH "promised" to animal :)) .... at loud or in His own Thoughts.

5 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

Why did not Jesus die for animals? 

Because they not sinned :)) They not sinned because some other laws ran their living. 

One of Problem is in idea of 6000 years old history of human (and many animals where been created in 7th Day too, that ended in 1975 Anno Domini according to JW Scholars)  from Adam and Eve to nowadays. 

But for many years now, WT Society speaking about how NO ONE Knows How Long was Lasted Each of Creative Days described in Bible. That gives open hands to calculations how each of Days and the Last Day can be much, much more longer than 7000 years. By this "new view" on Bible chronology, it can be partially  answered on so many evidences and artifacts of people who are much older than 6000 years.

JTR with two kinds of humans Societies on same Planet is good to consider. Problem with Moses reports about genesis in Genesis Book is specific. Because He never made claim how this descriptions about Adam, Eve, Creation Days and other things, came to him under (direct) INSPIRATION from God which would be without errors and trustful. Moses never and nowhere mentioned, as to my memory, about how he get all this "knowledge" or "information" , aka how he did get to know this Things.  

On 3/21/2017 at 12:05 AM, The Librarian said:

JW’s are now allowed to have

Very Understandable and Acceptable Explanatory Statement :))))

.....with all questions and answers that this sentence - JW’s are now allowed to have - contains in itself. 

10 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Am I a hypocrite, for loving both live chickens ... and those crispy fried??"

No, i do not think you are ..... we  are not Vegetarians, so we have  to learn how to move on  Next Level.   :))

47 minutes ago, Melinda Mills said:

Man was made in God's image and has the ability to love, appreciate wisdom, reasoning, music and poetry and worship. Animals can't do that.

Speaker missing to tell some things. Animals has not ability to do things as humans, but if God created them, He incorporated some qualities similar to humans. Or same as to humans but on different level. Searching for food, or even growing and collect food, creating family and offspring, care of them, fight for survive, showing affection to same and other species, etc. Cows give more milk after listening classical music :))) Speaker didn't done enough research on subject.

1 hour ago, Melinda Mills said:

Don't elevate animals to status of man.

Don't elevate humans to status of gods :))))   

Message has same principle, but speaker, i guess, missed to highlight and used The Same Principle and to made Parallel Lesson about same trap in spiritual interaction inside congregations and WT Society. 

....and i am legitimate to not answer if i do not want  :)))

the serpent said to the woman

the donkey said to Balaam

the very stones would cry out

8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

and he commanded the soldiers to go down and snatch him from their midst and bring him into the soldiers’ quarters.

hehehe, do not forget - you are in this "lion cave", "prison" voluntary, you entered in it by your own free will and choice. :))

....i am not sure about part where - but if a spirit or an angel spoke to him - because that would be contrary to official teachings how people in JW Church are not "inspired". If someone today would go with claim how spirit or angel spoke to him, people, not only worldly but JW people especially, will be very suspicious about mental health of that individual. :))

But you are Writer of books. You have licence to write what ever you like. Artistic freedom..... i almost wrote Arctic freedom but google translate put red line under word to alarm me. :)))))

1 hour ago, Bubba Johnson Jr said:

#2 I would never add anything to an illustration developed by the "faithful and discreet slave" to help us to understand what Jesus Christ is saying to us NOW.

Why not? Are GB theories something like Medo-Persian Laws of unchangeable things.....or Immutable data? :))))

1 hour ago, Bubba Johnson Jr said:

sorry bout dat...computer froze up on me🙄

Don't be worried about, because Overlapping will be here for a while.... I mean, enough long for computer to unfroze.  :)))))

50 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

This is AMERUKA!  We don't use no stinkin' SI Units in AMERUKA!

I was almost choked from laugh on comment of yours :)))))))

Well @JW Insider now you have new task, to put INCH Measure, and perhaps we shall get new length result for years. Urim and Thummim - Millimeters and Inches... hahhahaha.

7 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

I think I can answer the question above under the chart that asks: "How do Jesus's words indicate that we are living deep in the time of the end?"

A. Because if we were to look carefully at the chart and notice the scale that was used to indicate the time for each event, we can see that the Great Tribulation breaks out exactly 148 years after 1893, which is the year 2041. Therefore we are living deep in the time of the end.

Amazing! :)) I like it,  how you know to use all this digital tools and incorporate measuring strip in millimeter division on picture so precisely. Excellent work :))

40 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

It's possible that Bubba hopes to find scriptural support for the THREE GROUPS, marked separately in the chart below. But I don't understand his reasoning, and I hope he will explain. Here is what Bubba posted adjacent to the verses above:

Bubba Johnson Jr

It is also very possible that @Bubba Johnson Jr would like to know When Great Tribulation will start :)) 

Asking about, for example, how many  JW witnesses groups exist, can bring us to answers as: Past and Present, Loyal and Not Loyal, Zeal and not Zeal, Discreet and Non Discreet, Died and Alive .... etc. What would be benefit of such research?

You can used the same methods for "anointed". And come to similar answers.    

What is the purpose for your question, and by what methods, by what tools, you want to making operation upon verses to see what is the content under the skin? :))

my opinion :)) :

Only one group, and that is - The Anointed Group.  

4 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

indoctrinated by the latest “wind of teaching” designed by those who think

4 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

not to let “the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge”

@JOHN BUTLER and @Witness explained enough to open readers mind. WT Society making constant "wind teachings" under explanation/justification of "Brighter Light" mantra. All previous teachings that JW members stop to believe were exactly this: falsely called knowledge. In other words, past knowledge is not/was not Truth. It is False Truth. Otherwise it/doctrines would stay to be  applicable and accurate until today.

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Not everything in the world is about you and your pissy little complaint that you are a better anointed one than those of the GB.

Do I see your jealousy and envy? :)))

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

This example of an “empty speech” involves making a mistake while keeping on the watch. 

... you offer "empty" explanation TTH, ... sorry, have to tell you this :)) 

.... but seriously, you again going to transfer blame from GB (WTJWORG Management)  to holy spirit.

3 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

This is the fellow who thinks that you are backward for still believing in God. Not only does he dislike the 85% that you dislike—he dislikes the other 15% as well. An odd ally for you.

In all of 85% content and in all of 15% content, what i like is honesty and sincerity, everything else is questionable and not impressed me any more :))

When You or any other JW member speak (preach) how we people have to be honest, good, love our neighbor, not to kill, not to lie or about  some other moral quality i can Upvote for that.  If you mean on JW Theology..? .... that is something else and it deserve Downvotes many times. ....... And You already know this :))

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

For example, a byline of TrueTom vs the Apostates! is his line, “The game is the same; it’s just up on another level,” to illustrate how Witnesses now must defend the truth against brand new and unfamiliar attacks—but it is the same truth.

JW must defend The Same Truth :))))) ..... you mean on today, present, temporary, official in this moment ... truth ?  

2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Bible only, ignore all the JW stuff and it's community

This is so good statement and must be saved for past, present and future evidence and proof about your claims how you defend JW Church  from "attacks" of those who are talking against them :))) 

2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

A made up concept in order to push forth claim

SM, please stop speaking things that you know nothing about . :))) You are not JW member and have no enough knowledge about them :))) Go please, to another place to "defend The Truth about JW" :)))

It is through his organization that God provides this light that the proverb says is the teaching or law of the mother. If we are to walk in the light of truth we must recognize not only Jehovah God as our Father but his organization as our mother. -source:  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957325

WT Society as Main Legal Entity (with all sister companies)  is The Mother to JW members.  

38 minutes ago, Equivocation said:

Mother Corporation?

Did you never heard how WT Society speaking about JHVH as Husband and His Zion Organization as Wife? This Mother has "children" around the world - congregations :))) in fact many JW brothers and sister consider Earthly Image of God's Kingdom aka WT Society as their "spiritual mother".  

In Legal terminology and Business issue,  WT Society had formed many "sister companies" under various and different names around the globe. Each congregation is separate Legal Entity too, and in short jargon way i said how WT Society is "Mother" in both ways, spiritually and legally. :))

On 6/19/2019 at 5:20 PM, Shiwiii said:

The fact that they named each kingdom hall

means how each congregation is little corporation under Mother Corporation

55 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

God caused the Donkey to speak,

..... so finally,  you accepting that Donkey was "empowered" aka "Inspired" by God to speak His will :)))).... well, well, all I need is waiting enough time and you will make consent about quotes I made :))))))))) because your's words are many...