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  1. Srecko Sostar
    Perhaps because Secular Authorities doing JHVH will (maybe not always but still sometimes). Romans 13 explained this in preamble. 13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
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    Why? You ask why?!!! I am sure how you will recall why, if somebody say - Because all of you who are PROUD to call yourself JW's aka Christians - need to be LIGHT of The World. 14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. Please reconsider again, in the LIGHT of verse above, how Funny, Spiritually Immature and Unscriptural is Lawyers words through the mouth of GB FDS individual !! Read Again: .. if the Australian Government, in all the States, was to make mandatory reporting, it would make it so much easier for us. NOTHING about LIGHT FROM ABOVE, but about - Make It Easier For Us. :(( ... shame to them.
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    I think, comparison is often a method that can have some negative and positive consequences. When we compare something, we do it for reasons to choose what is better and what is less good to reject. Understandably, of course. But we see that the next thing can happen, after we have chosen the thing that once was better than others, we later see that it has its disadvantages that we do not like. In the case of JW religion, we (or I myself) who came out of the organization did not compare JW religion with another religion and then converted to another faith to become their believers. In fact, we compared the organization with the standards that the same organization placed itself. These standards are; God, the Bible, Jesus' doctrine. Principles of truthfulness and honesty as a commonly accepted value, too. So, we had strong reasons to put WTJWORG under the magnifying glass. Comparing an one imperfect religion to another imperfect religion has no significance and purpose as it may seem at first glance. Comparing people within a one system is also inadequate. If everyone is doing the best they can, then comparing is actually the wrong measurement of human efforts and achievements. You may also feel that some assembly is once considered better than another. You've heard perhaps the elders of a congregation think or even argue that the brothers in their assembly are without some disadvantages, that brothers in another assembly have. To compare, how one is pioneer and one is not, and ask why, how he /she cannot because he/she can according to our opinion .... and so on. In general, making comparison is difficult and controversial job. :))
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    Exactly. Imagine "Legal Battle" between Lawyers Team of Israeli slaves and Pharaoh's Lawyers ? :)) Of course, do not imagine. Read report about Moses who came before Pharaoh and ask him to let go slaves live the Egypt. Moses = attorney. Slaves = party to the proceedings. Intellectual reasoning was insufficient. Next step was application of force in several phases and of different intensity. Justified? Don't know. But Bible report said how many people (including Egyptians) sold themselves for bread. And which idea that was? Joseph's idea as Prime minister for Pharaoh. Well, it seems how he has established or strengthened the existing ones, slave system, in Egypt. His father and brothers (68 who came from Canaan in Egypt) left own land because of famine. And they said to Pharaoh how they will stay in Egypt for short time. But they stay much longer, Even after famine has stopped (few years) they not went back. Only to buried their father Jacob. I suppose how not only Joseph, but also all his brothers and their families, have much privileges in Egypt. And it is possible how they have own slaves for themselves. Question is, why they not went back to Canaan after famine has stooped? They were very wealthy before and they get to be more wealthy in their stay in Egypt. Their father Jacob lived last 17 years in Egypt before he died (famine lasted 7 years). Justified wars? Justified slavery? Justified wealthy? .......etc ????? :))) All these and many more are misconceptions. Misconceptions that we creating and we destroying. Always over again.
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    @Foreigner I am glad to see you again with your only possible and unique way of argumentation and communication ... down votes :)))
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    On which list would be your name ? :)) Which other names would be with your?
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    For various legal, human rights, many people have fought. JW people, minority national or racial communities, LGBT community and others. True, some individuals paid a high price for their rights. But I think that JW people because of their pacifist attitude can have "struggle" for their rights only intellectually. If millions of "infidels" or false Christians did not shed blood in wars (WW 1 and 2) against established systems or nazism and other dictatorships, intellectual and passive resistance would not yield some results (or it would, but on some day in far future after global Natural Catastrophe or Alien visitation).
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    Thanks for warning me about names of dangerous elements in this forum. So, you would like that i pay my attention to Billy? Because his name is not on your list?! :))
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    I think that the wars of the first Israel were wars for the land, territory. But let us recall on some important details i have found before some 20 years ago when faced with this historical reports in Bible. Abraham, a forefather of the future nation of Israel, was extremely wealthy and gained possession over large areas of land. But as time passed, there have been several things. That land that Abraham acquired or bought during his life, and legally left to his successors/heirs after his death, somehow was went to, passed on other individuals, families, people, tribes, and nations. Please recall, for example, how he bought land for grave , for his wife. I can imagine how that was not some small piece of land, but huge territory. After long time, we saw how his tribe and grandsons moved to Egypt and left or sold territory. But we also must think about how many people in time of Great Famine sold possessions they have for food. Well, many people gave "money", sold animals, gold, silver, houses, sold land, territory and finally themselves to Pharaoh ( and Joseph) for food. Such sale was "legitimate" and many lost their property under these circumstances. I suppose how some part of the territory or perhaps all that land that once belonged to Abraham, Israel slaves want back, in this way or that way, because they consider themselves as "legitimate" heirs. But, because that land has been in the possession of others for several hundred years already, question was: how to return land back to them? Only by war and conquest. Issue of religion, worshiping and gods has been of second importance, or another good reason/motivation why to go to war. Fighting for "Freedom" and for "Homeland" and for "Own People" was always powerful force that leads people.
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    Yes, it is. Please send this sentence in English, so that i can compare it once again ... with "my English" :)).
  11. Srecko Sostar
    I think it would help if i tell my opinion how Jesus want to express very strong illustrative argument, assurance how his words will be fulfilled Even IF all Milky Way would blow up in explosion :))) Hyperbola. To enhance the effect and leave an impression on the listener. How so? Because some Bible verses say how Earth was created to stay forever. Again, one problem more we have in here too. In Bible, word "forever" not carry always the meaning of "never ending, eternity". This is not clarification. This is more stuff to confuse us more :))) JHVH said: Earth will last forever Jesus said: Earth will gone To Who do you believe? OR.... what sort of Earth will last and what sort will perished? Literal or figurative destruction? ... and so on.
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    So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until allthese things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. That means "nothing", or to say, this words perhaps haven't meaning some people want it to have. Point is that Jesus' words are so sure and truthful.
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    .... we agree, these are parables ......and NOT ticket for WTJWORG to enter in various financial schemes (with members money). .... only if members gave them their written consent for such activity, job that is no more religious/charity activity but money making activity.
  14. Srecko Sostar
    Yes Melinda, you say well. But me or you as private person, individuals put our own money we earned with our hard labor. WTJWORG put other people money without their consent and will and with any, no chance to give them back interest/gain/profit of such investing. :))
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    Thanks. So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until allthese things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. Many people would agree how those things Jesus was told to his disciples and described in chapter 24 was happened in 1 century. Problem arise if we want to see another fulfillment, again, ..... second .... or third or fourth? I haven't "light" that would be able to explain yours or other people expectations about some second fulfillment. I am not inspired, guided or motivated. I can err in explanations :)) Thing that i can do is to ask questions, to examine ideas and doctrines about issue, and to reevaluate results. The changes that are about this topic arose and disappeared in WTJWORG indicates that JW scholars wander in the fog. In fact, they adapt the interpretations of the "generation" to other insecure, questionable theses.
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    Here we have confusion about Bible verses and meaning. Can we conclude from Jesus' words that He supported the financial and economic system of the Jewish and Roman Monetary System? Parables and Illustrations or Verbatim Advice what do do with Money? :))) What is Spiritual and what is Literal? What is Story Lesson? "...you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow?" - Is this Jesus, Master you want as King?
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    Yeah ......and after we repeat something he was said, from Bible, we continue with our safe interpretation of meaning :)))
  18. Srecko Sostar
    @TrueTomHarley Everyone walking in the mud has muddy shoes
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    Some Experienced people puts money in a STOCKS :)))))))
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    Are they, all this different entities and advisors in the one and same "channel of communication" ? Because GB doctrine teach that existing Only One Channel of Communication in mediating, of what is god's word and will, between god and JW members? All Lawyers, who working in all this various entities and corporations, to support religion of JW, have successfully produced a network of wells and channels by which water goes in all directions and from many sources. Can such water be safe for drinking?
  21. Srecko Sostar
    Oh Tom, I do not insist on anything here :)))
  22. Srecko Sostar
    A little observation about this comment. WE can't say NOTHING THAT IS SAFELY about "generation". POINT 1. and POINT 2. are paraphrased words said by Jesus. He has been in safe position while talking about the issue. All other people who latter want to tell something about, to make comment about "generation" found themselves on very slippery and insecure place. Because they were trying to interpret the meaning. :)) and of the constant mantra or repetition of the sentences given by someone (in this case Jesus's words) no one has any use/benefit.
  23. Srecko Sostar
    Should/could this sort of worldly basic idea be possible to find in this spiritual advice: "Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves." If yes, perhaps Jesus was not only spiritual Teacher but also successful Wall Street Investment Advisor?
  24. Srecko Sostar
    "... so that people are without excuse." I suppose that you agree with posibility how WTJWORG individuals are also included in this group of those who are Not Excused, because of Mandatory Doctrines that was/are put on people by JW Leaders? I did not give Pseudo-arguments when mentioned how Class of, literal number, 144000 is separate from other JW members, and how exists idea that Bible or NT as Part of Bible is just or only for them. Such idea has grown inside Organization before we were born. And i did not said Nothing about Who is or Who is Not Allowed to Read The Book. :)) I did NOT offer any Basis for Concluding something in that way. I just made comment about WTJWORG idea that IF Bible or Part of Bible is addressed Only to Specific Class of People, than we can conclude how Only Such Class have Special Obligation to Text and Message in Text. Other people have not if they don't want. Perhaps those other people, who are not members of Class, fall under different Measures, Rules than 144000. Let say, they fall under Natural Conscience as God's Prime Law written in First Human. Or, they fall only under TWO Main, Ultimate Laws - Love God and Love people! :))
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    I think how in such matter, order or sequence not existing. It appears randomly :))) and alternately.
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