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    REPROOF FROM THE PLATFORM

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    13 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    Therefore, just like God intended to have sinless humans on earth, so too is his intention to have faithful followers on earth. If it wasn’t the case, what you are saying, God is wasting his time.

     

    I am not even sure how terminology, word - sin, sinless - existed in those time. Why? Because Bible reports; God see all this/that he has created was - GOOD. God has intention to have Followers? This is also terminology that was coined later.

    I do not know more about god's "Intentions" out of those, except what is described in the first few words of Genesis.

    13 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    Why did Jesus enter a temple?

    Because people of his time mostly living in solid houses and went to churches made of stones. :))) Temple in Jerusalem was standing there for few hundreds years already. But most of HIS sermons was in open-air. He has not showed "intentions" to building churches for His "new/modified religious movement". 

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    1 hour ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    Do you think God abolished organized religion because ancient Israel broke God's laws time and time again? If he had, don't you think the Temple of David would not have been built.

    It seems how He was "abolished" ( in several different ways) religion, made by Him alone, repeatedly, as you noticed too. One of the reason for that was  the manner of how The Representatives of god aka Priesthood and Nation aka People practiced religion. He also made practical moves to abolished any other Organized Religion in the Jew's  neighbourhood. 

    For second part about Temple, it was very clear from The Very First Reaction made by god, (and in my opinion, the very first reaction or gut, first response, is in most cases true and authentic)  that He is NOT Interested for Temple aka Church aka Fixed Place for HIM ...... or, as my opinion, for Institutional  gathering of people inside such Structure - Building. God was felt happy to be with Israelite in the Tent (as Theirs and His Home). 

     

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    5 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    Do you honestly believe Jesus started to organize a Body of Christ? What perception do you understand the role each individual has within that Body?

    Scripture states there would be false prophets. Therefore, false religion. Your stance in this matter is, the Watchtower is a false religion, even though by far, the Watchtower has embedded itself and adhered to the original teaching of Christ. All the magazines, books, publications center around that ideology, through scripture and it's interpretation. So, why haven't you asked yourself, why haven't other religions followed the Watchtower to become a faithful part of the body of Christ?

    .... let somebody please remind me how has ended One and Only True organized/institutional Religion started in 1513 B.C.E. under Mt. Sion? (corr at 11.59 SINAI) ......... type and anti type example? or mere, simple, reality fact and evidence of .... something?:))

    ...or we can go by this road too: Jew religion existing until today. And by this Observation that Institutional Religion not ended by Jesus Death as some interpretations of NT verses implied. What this talks to us? That this religion is still One and Only True because JHVH was (and still He is) source and origin of It?

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    7 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    A'haz ....and he reigned for 16 years in Jerusalem.

    Well, this Bible example and report of past events show us how his "regime" was "legal" or legal for 16 years. And AFTER 16 years things started to change.

    No one in Jew nation made real opposition to king Ahaz, no Judicial Commission, no dfd, no shunning. He continue with bad ruling and evil work. How similar it is to today. Governing Structures continues to work on their own way, even longer than 16 years.     

    How the New European Data Law Will Affect Jehovah’s Witnesses - My Take

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    12 hours ago, Witness said:

     Then the prophet Jeremiah said to Hananiah the prophet, “Hear now, Hananiah, the Lord has not sent you, but you make this people trust in a lie. Jer 28:15

    Gerrit Loesch:  “Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?”

    Excellent comparison ! Up-vote 

    How the New European Data Law Will Affect Jehovah’s Witnesses - My Take

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    Drones = type and anti-type interpretation of Bible reports about Locusts

    9 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the [a]bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 And [b]they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

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    Wikipedia source:

    Etymology[edit]

    Coined in 2003 by Charles Krauthammer as Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) in The Washington Post article "The Delusional Dean".[1]

    Noun[edit]

    Derangement Syndrome (plural Derangement Syndromes)

    1. (idiomatic, colloquial) The acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal and balanced people triggered by the mention of a specific topic

    :)))  in otherwise normal and balanced people  :)))))

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    5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    Most of the New Testament is in the form of letters written to someone else. ........ I just write after the fact. Paul did too, apparently.

    I found this interesting. Did they, (Bible) Writers of Private Letters to someone, were Inspired to wrote text about something, or did they just made Description (Fact, Advice, Lesson, Judgement etc.)  about something what people of those time has done? ..... Just as you TTH doing today. Do you find yourself Inspired for writing books? 

     

    5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    will he really be helped to recover by being exposed to everyone as a “practicer of sin?” 

    Question has their place, of course.  But then, we can ask in similar manner - If exposing the name of a sinner to public is not pedagogically  sustainable,  in same logic somebody can argue how excommunication is also questionable method to bring someone back to right path.

     

    5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    the added caution that those who would truly need to know, parents of minors, would be notified. They could be trusted to pass it along to anyone who might need to know, such as a guardian.

    This is something strange. Elders, as legal body, are authorized to tell to particular individual or few of them, The Confidential Information. After that this individual or few of them, according to my understanding of your words, could be trusted  to pass it along to anyone... Strange thing again.

    How does non authorized individuals ( rank and file members) can be in same category, in such Delicate issue, as Elders who, supposedly, have all important information about case and was faced with matter in wider range? 

     How is possible that congregants have to believe and trust HearSay information from second hand, from Brother (or Sister :)))) aka Parents who are not The Elder/Elderessa . 

     

    5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    Rarely, if ever, are we speaking of forcible rape here, but some lesser form of molestation.

    ? ....confused about meaning.

     

    5 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

    ones here that claim disfellowshipping is horribly cruel

    Crime we talking about (sexual crimes and child molestation) are cruel. To put such one in hand of Justice is not cruel. If that including Report to police, DFD from church or Fired from job looks as normal reaction of society.

    The ultimate insult: Grieving mother who lost her 20-year-old son to suicide finds a Jehovah's Witness pamphlet about eternal life on her boy's grave

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    On 5/17/2019 at 4:49 AM, TrueTomHarley said:

    However, I have obtained a rare copy of the Ryan Bible Translation that addresses some of Jack’s concerns.

    ”Jesus said: “Roll away that stone.” Mary was offended that he should have the nerve to prey on her when she was emotionally vulnerable...

    On 5/16/2019 at 6:16 PM, Jack Ryan said:

    But even then, if they left a flyer saying ''We're sorry for your loss'' would it make the situation any better? It's still preying on emotionally vulnerable people.' 

    With that, they rolled it away. Jesus peered inside, shrugged, and said to Mary: “Sorry about your loss.”

    John 11:1-44

    So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.” 4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death......  and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.” ... 7 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.....19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother. ......23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 

    24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

    33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping,  , he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. 34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. 35 Jesus wept. 36 Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!....40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”...43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 

    Dear TTH, JW member who left pamphlet on grave, i guess to a person he/she not know personally, was not imitate Jesus and was not showed, looks so,  "appropriate" personal state of mind and heart to someone who lost dear family member.  

    How not?

    First, JW member not made personal contact to grieving person. Even if you not know somebody from before, IF you are interested in his/her  well-being than you will make personal contact. In Jesus example we see how he was; deeply moved, troubled and wept. JW member who left pamphlet expressed NOTHING of this. JW member was just routinely made his/her Volunteer PUBLIC SERVICE aka PUBLISHING for Companies (WTJWORG and Congregation). 

    Second (something that no one expecting from JW :)))), in Jesus's case, he made more than showing compassion and sadness. He HELPED them in a miracle way!

    Of course, grieving people will react on pamphlet in various ways. Some will come to be JW because of that. I knew one late JW brother who was (his son just died at 20 year of old) found JW material on grave and join the organization before cca 50-60 years.  

    I think that scripture say: 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.

    Well, it  seems how particular JW member failed to did both of this. 

     

     

     

    A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"

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    2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    seat in Moses chair

    The disciples and many others have been listening. Now Jesus addresses them, warning about the scribes and the Pharisees. Those men have “seated themselves in the seat of Moses” to teach God’s Law. - source jworg

    2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    Do you believe this text is only meant for secular authority?

    It seems how, after new interpretations on "secular authority", you put yourself on Moses seat :)))) Or you just copy/paste some WT magazine. If yes, tell the source.

    2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    How do you understand the cited text?

    6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing

    Do you believe this text is only meant for secular authority?

    According to your new light, donation money from now have new name - taxes?! And for what purpose? For service of those who governing in WTJWORG. Well, I see from this that JW's have PAID CLERGY, according to this understanding of Bible words.

    :)))))) very good 

     

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    33 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    And if the GB and Org did their job properly they would announce name of person and sin committed directly from the platform. 

    In GDPR atmosphere law, perhaps elders need to have sinner's  written consent, to made his name publicly known and what matter is about ??

    I think how publishers in many countries (EU) signed such paper or are in process to sign it.

    A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"

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    27 minutes ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    There is only one way to treat apostates TOM, it’s not through sympathy.

    • Jeremiah 5:6, "Therefore a lion from the forest will slay them. A wolf of the deserts will destroy them.  A leopard is watching their cities. Everyone who goes out of them will be torn in pieces, because their transgressions are many, their apostasies are numerous."

     

    • Zephaniah 1:4-6

      "So I will stretch out My hand against Judah And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem And I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, And the names of the idolatrous priests along with the priests. "And those who bow down on the housetops to the host of heaven, And those who bow down and swear to the LORD and yet swear by Milcom, And those who have turned back from following the LORD, And those who have not sought the LORD or inquired of Him."

    A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"

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    17 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    I’m trying very hard to make my comments as simple as possible. But it seems there is still a lack of communication with you Srecko.

    I believe I gave you an example of what a provisional law would entail. I asked you to submit a good example where the Watchtower has made a provisional law or changed God’s law to determine how to respond.

    I understand English is not your first language, and I have no intention of insulting you for it as others here do with grammar.

    I didn’t cite a Watchtower publication to make a point since opposers and fake members enjoy twisting its meaning, especially if it’s a past published citation. That’s why my example was with Moses and divorce.

    I belong to  "introvert species" inside humankind :)))), so quantity and frequency of communication from my side is not sufficient for others, sometimes or often. Thanks for grammar issue!

    Moses and stuff with this. Moses Law or God's Law, whatever/however we decide to name it is of Provisional Sort. One of main reason is because no one is/was been able to obey this/such Law. Of what value is the Law that can't be incorporated in people's life. When people are not able , even if they truly want, to live by The Law.

    Even in that situation Jew Religious Leaders added human commands and traditions and burden people still more. And yet today, in modern religious systems, things are similar and same. With no exceptions (including WTJWORG).

    Divorce thing is with "little" controversy (also as killing non-Jew tribes but with Law permission to took with force beautiful virgins (even under age children) and "marry" them. One part of Jesus conversation with Jew, reveal something about divorce and Moses and by that making questions (to us) about other Law regulations in Israel. 

    Perhaps we can agree, how God was not approved nothing of it, that Moses "gave" them (Because of the hardness of your heart Moses PERMITTED you) , but God was allowed them (Moses and Priests and people) to doing so. 

    Well, today we can look at issues in similar way. God just allowed that Religious Leaders burden people with human regulations and ideas just as in the past time.

    A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"

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    19 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    I'm faithfully obeying God almighty through the Watchtower, Then yes, I'm very proud to be God's servant.

    Billy, dear Billy .... even in simple stating your position as believer, you alone put yourself in negative context. 

    Is it some typing error? :( Or you purposely wrote how you  obeying God almighty through the Watchtower ?  It would be more better to say... (political correctness :))))))...  through Jesus .  And all would end there. Bible not endorse no one else as Mediator but Jesus Christ.  

    A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"

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    23 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

    I asked Srecko to give me an example of a provisional law the Watchtower has added to the laws of God. His sarcasm of 140 years just doesn't prove anything.

    We have always used the Bible as the sole authority for our beliefs, so we have adjusted our beliefs as our understanding of the Scriptures has been clarified. - source JWorg

    Here we have maneuver by JW Clergy Leaders who try to justify, by Bible, how they have made/making changes of Organizational doctrines and beliefs, because they have not understand the Scriptures before (and today too). In meantime, while they were not been aware of false and wrong in own doctrines, they continued to force and run wrong laws inside JW congregations. 

    Exactly this and that WTJWORG mandate beliefs, are what can be called by name you used in comment - provisional laws. With time passing, WT Leaders changed doctrines which they presented as Bible Truths and God's Word. After some time they made new doctrines out of old doctrines, and again they called such modified rules-doctrines-laws as Bible Truths and God's Word. They using lexical terminology such as;  adjusted our beliefs .....Scriptures has been clarified.

    Well, we have different wording but same package of meanings and results: 

    Provisional Laws ........ Adjusted our beliefs ...... Scriptures has been clarified. 

     

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