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1 hour ago, Anna said:
You do not go beyond what you are asked to do.
In one hand you said good, BUT, we always have that word BUT.
G.L. as "Substitution for Christ" according to NWT Bible, and as "Ambassador for Kingdom", when was accept this WT Legal Department Deposition, forget small detail from Bible:
If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; 41 and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two.…
So, yes, as Witness was said, Gerrit has acted not brave, and not according to His Master Words, Advice, Command.
But hey, we are all just Imperfect Humans, why to blame his deeds. Why to blame JW rank and file members or even elders, when they get a cigarette smoke, get to much beer, or sex out of marriage? I said you why! Because People on Position made such Rules for rank and file, for Am Haarets people, NOT for Noble Ones. As always.
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Gerrit Losch:
Geoffrey Jackson:
MR STEWART: Q. Mr Jackson, will you state your full name and your work address, please?
A. Yes, my name is Geoffrey William Jackson, and I work at 25 Columbia Heights, but the mailing address is 124 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, New York.
A. If I may be allowed to explain, each Governing Body member has a home committee where his office is based.
A. Yes. With regard to my role, each member of the Governing Body ‐ of course, there are seven at the moment ‐ each brings something to the table with regard to expertise.
A. ..... So the Governing Body is broken up into various committees..... A. There is a ‐ yes, ultimately, the Governing Body oversees the work of the committees,....
So verse 4 describes the role of the Governing Body as we see it, to devote ourselves to prayer and the word of God, and that's why 30 helpers have been assigned that are involved more with the practical side of policy and implementation.
The Watchtower:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/1200272475/30/4
18. How does the Governing Body operate, and what is one way that we can reflect our cooperation with it?
18 The committees of the Governing Body hold weekly meetings to review important matters, make decisions after prayerful considerations, and plan for future theocratic activity. As noted earlier, Acts chapter 15 shows that a weighty question needing resolution was referred to the first-century governing body for attention. Similarly today, important questions are referred to the entire Governing Body, which meets weekly or more often when necessary.
19. How do instructions of the Governing Body reach the congregations?
19 How do the instructions and decisions of the Governing Body reach the congregations? After the members of the first-century governing body reached their decision with the help of God’s spirit, they sent a letter to the congregations. (Acts 15:22-29) However, the principal way today is through Christian publications.
Conclusion: Prior to July 1 1994 Gerrit Losch was not working as GB member according to his deposition in document. BUT after that day and until today he working in WT building and has Office in WT building, so WT giving him (and to his wife too) a Job, Accommodation aka Place to sleep, Food to Eat, Water to Drink, Money for spending, Health Care, Insurance and other things that is required by The US Law for WT Corporation and Full Time Religious Ministers, Order,, Inside JW Church, or simply said Clergy.
Because Gerrit Losch is GB member as Geoffrey Jackson, this two men /plus other in GB Team) are Fully responsible for all WT Corporation deeds. Who giving Whom Orders, and Who giving Whom answers is Their Internal Game. But All people involved in WT Business of all Kind are One Team and all of them Contribute to decisions. GB is Ultimate Body of WT and all other Legal Entities, so they are Fully Responsible before their God and before Secular Authority.
All other "Stories" they Presenting to Public, and Their Internal games of Power and Influence, Competition, is Normal for Human Organization as it is also for Heavenly Organization which went through same or similar "fighting for Power and Influence over other", according to Bible reports.
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23 minutes ago, Outta Here said:
Take that as a Yes then?
Q. Could you explain, Mr Jackson, the committee structure 35 and how it relates to the Governing Body, which is to say, 36 do the committees report to and are they accountable to the 37 Governing Body as a whole, or how does it work? 38 A. Thank you, Mr Stewart. Yes, the Governing Body, as 39 I mentioned, has seven members. As you would realise, with 40 8.2 million active members of Jehovah's Witnesses, with 41 approximately 20 million associated with us, there is no 42 way that the seven members of the Governing Body can be up 43 to date with all aspects of every part of our work. So the 44 Governing Body is broken up into various committees. The 45 committees ‐ there is a measure of trust, obviously, 46 because the men who are appointed on those committees 47 understand something about the operation of those various .14/08/2015 (155) 15932 G W JACKSON (Mr Stewart) Transcript produced by DTI 1 aspects. 2 3 But if I may also mention something I think the 4 Commission hasn't noticed is that there are a roll of 30 5 helpers and these helpers join us in not the Governing Body 6 committee, but the various subcommittees, and they help us 7 by making recommendations and implementing the policies. 8 9 Q. Thank you, Mr Jackson. Is it the case that the 10 helpers also attend the Governing Body meetings that occur 11 weekly, but don't make decisions there? 12 A. No, they don't normally attend the one meeting the 13 Governing Body has each Wednesday, unless, of course, we 14 need some special input from one of them or from several, 15 and then they may be invited as needed. But you are 16 correct in saying they do not vote. 17 18 Q. So is it right to say that the committees then are 19 accountable to the Governing Body? 20 A. There is a ‐ yes, ultimately, the Governing Body 21 oversees the work of the committees, but there is a measure 22 of trust, obviously, that goes on, mainly ‐ if I could use 23 an example, I would be the last person on earth to ask with 24 regard to construction details, but the publishing 25 committee handles our construction worldwide, and so those 26 that have more familiarity with that type of expertise, we 27 would trust them to go ahead with most of the decisions. 28 29 Q. You have said that the Governing Body presently has 30 seven members. How is it determined how many members there 31 will be from time to time? 32 A. There can be any number of members on the Governing 33 Body. In the past few decades ‐ for example, when I was 34 appointed on the Governing Body, there were 12 of us. 35 I believe the number has been 18 at one stage. But the 36 qualifications of a member for the Governing Body ‐ it 37 involves someone who is considered an anointed Witness, who 38 has worked in scriptural, with a scriptural background, 39 either as a missionary or a full‐time servant for many 40 years, and is able to fulfil the role of the Governing 41 Body, which is, may I state, a group, a spiritual group of 42 men who are the guardians of our doctrine, and as guardians 43 of the doctrine, look at things that need to be decided 44 based on our doctrines, which are based on the constitution 45 of the Bible. 46 47 Q. I take it if the Governing Body is to be increased in .14/08/2015 (155) 15933 G W JACKSON (Mr Stewart) Transcript produced by DTI 1 size, that that will be a decision of the Governing Body 2 itself? 3 A. That is correct. But obviously, we would get 4 information from other fields. 5 6 Q. And is it the case that the Governing Body then 7 appoints new members of the Governing Body? 8 A. That is correct. 9 10 Q. Does someone have a designated role, such as 11 coordinator or chairperson or president? 12 A. You mean of the Governing Body? 13 14 Q. Yes. 15 A. Or do you mean the subcommittees? 16 17 Q. No, I mean of the Governing Body? 18 A. Yes. We rotate each year. There is a chairman of the 19 Governing Body, but the chairman's role is merely to chair 20 the meetings. 21 22 Q. So there is no‐one who has a permanent role of 23 coordination or designation such as president or what have 24 you? 25 A. That is correct. Only the committees, under the 26 direction of the Governing Body, have a coordinator for 27 each committee. 28 29 Q. Dealing with decisions of the Governing Body itself, 30 how are decisions made, by which I mean are they made only 31 by consensus or by majority or is there some other system 32 you adopt? 33 A. So if a policy or a question comes up with regard to 34 doctrine, or something that involves a biblical stand, we 35 will allow someone to come in and present to us all the 36 facts concerning that ‐ obviously the seven involved cannot 37 be familiar with every aspect that we need to consider. So 38 once the proposal has been given to the Governing Body, 39 it's an agenda point. Ahead of time, each Governing Body 40 member, with prayer, by means of prayer and reading the 41 Bible, then tries to see how the Bible would affect any 42 particular decision. So then, in our discussion, 43 generally, from my experience, which has only just been the 44 last 10 years, in most cases it's unanimous. 45 46 Q. If it's not, then it would be carried by majority; is 47 that right? .14/08/2015 (155) 15934 G W JACKSON (Mr Stewart) Transcript produced by DTI
1 A. That is the case but, as I said, it's a rare thing, 2 because if someone ‐ perhaps their conscience is not clear 3 or feel comfortable with a certain decision, then more 4 often than not, we would rely upon God's spirit by holding 5 up on making a final decision until more research is done, 6 and then we would meet again. 7 8 Q. By what mechanism would you understand God's spirit to 9 direct your decisions? 10 A. Well, what I mean by that is, by prayer and using our 11 constitution, God's word, we would go through the 12 scriptures and see if there was any biblical principle at 13 all that would influence our decision ‐ and it could be 14 that in our initial discussions there was something that 15 maybe we were missing and then in another discussion that 16 would come to light. So we would view that as God's spirit 17 motivating us because we believe the Bible is God's word 18 and came by means of holy spirit.
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9 hours ago, Outta Here said:
Did the courts accept this declaration?
Main question, More Important Question is: Do You and Does JW members ACCEPT This Declaration ?
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On 2/5/2019 at 9:07 PM, Outta Here said:
People now began bringing him young children for him to touch them, but the disciples reprimanded them.
to touch them.... well, text speaking about touching children for blessings, not baptizing children.
dear Outta Here, wrong interpretation and misapplication of bible text, for sure.
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Since we know for ourselves, we know there is money. Money brings many things, almost everything. The Bible gives such a statement: A feast is ready for laughter, and wine makes life merry, but money is the answer for everything. ECL. 10:19.
Money is the answer. It is understandable to me that "the organized religion" or any association, needs money to operate. But manipulation with membership that material things to be rendered for the corporation, because God loves it and wants it, it's really saucy/presumptuous.To educate people for how to "invest" money and other material possessions is what people need in this money based World.
But, does "spiritual leaders" aka GB, and particular WT Department existing for that purpose? To give financial advises to "the flock"? Is it Their task to take care about member's money and real estate and silver and gold? Is it on Them to collect member's possessions INTO WT Corporation/s?
Task for Church Leadership (according to their own new light about 1919 doctrine) is this:
to SHARE Spiritual Food.
NOT to COLLECT Material Possessions.
TO SHARE vs. TO COLLECT ....opposite verbs, Antonyms Not Synonyms
If they Collect Money, only reason for that must be to Help PEOPLE, and NOT to making new buildings and buying Things for "fine life" inside those WALLS (literal and spiritual walls, by the way). Not to building KH on members expenses and then, after some years to Sold it and put money in WT Corporation account, and not giving one single $ to Congregants who contribute in building with own money, time, food, working power and skills.
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10 hours ago, Witness said:
Ezek 13:1-16
Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, “The Lord declares,” though I have not spoken?
GB claim how they are "spirit guided", and that The Watchtower as main food instrument for feeding JW people, "declares God's words". We can find sentences in WT publications that directly connecting JHVH and Jesus as speaking through WT magazine and publications. But we see how JHVH not spoken nothing to Them. GB is under "false visions" guidance.
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3 hours ago, Anna said:
but it is clear that every Witness generation has been living with the thought that "our children won't make it to high school", it doesn't matter whether this is the 20's 30's 40's..............80's 90's....
not only high school but also primary school. :))
only do not know was this sort of thinking characteristic for Whole people in specific JW generation or one part of people in that generation :))
Up-vote!
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8 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:
Of course we all judge people in everyday life.
verb judge
to form, give, or have as an opinion, or to decide about something or someone, especially after thinking carefully
to express a bad opinion of someone's behaviour, often because you think you are better than them
to officially decide .....about someone or something
to express the reasons why you have a particular opinion
Perhaps we sometimes making too rashly, too much Conclusions about people and things around us. And we, of course, made errors in Conclusions. Judging sounds somehow as verdict, Final outcome, as like before Judge judging you for death sentence. Conclusions are also "dangerous", can be dangerous if we making decisions based on current, uncertain knowledge.
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1 hour ago, FelixCA said:
You and your kind have lost the right to criticize the Watchtower as a faithful member.
Mr Felix.
John Butler and other ex-JW people are Gained their right to speak openly about WT (to share Critical Thoughts) with a Day of Personal Awaking and with a Day of leaving JW community !!
I have to remind You how every "faithful member" aka JW member does not have and will never have any "Right", Permission and Free Will to "criticize" WT. Because of reasons:
1) he/she is "faithful member",
2) JW member will be disciplined if would dare to "criticize" or to put complain about WT,
3) hierarchical structure and Doctrines in WT gives no space for "criticizing" or for Critical Thoughts.
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1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:
Forgive me for saying so, John, but I think you have a basic disconnect with the way that God operates towards humans.
"the way that God operates towards humans"
Few of you (or us :)))) maybe ..... and GB undoubtedly, in full measure,.....know how god operates :))))
Amazing how we are ready to make interesting, big, loud claims: We know .....and than continue to talking about so many things we know for sure how, when, why ......
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14 hours ago, Outta Here said:
Rules? What Rules? These Rules?
this JW brother could/should not be on the stage without a jacket and tie.....according some elders/congregations rule :))))
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Suicide in the ancient world did not carry the same negative connotations as it does today. Even bible text nowhere said how suicide is a sin or forbidden by Law. The biblical attitude toward suicide ranges from ambivalence to praise. Never made Judgmental statement against those who done that act of self-destruction.
-Abimelech came to the tower, and fought against it, and came near to the entrance of the tower to burn it with fire. But a certain woman threw an upper millstone on Abimelech's head, and crushed his skull. Immediately he called to the young man who carried his armor and said to him, “Draw your sword and kill me, so people will not say about me, ‘A woman killed him.’ ” So the young man thrust him through, and he died.
-the counselor Ahithophel hanged himself When Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his donkey and went off home to his own city. He set his house in order, and hanged himself; he died and was buried in the tomb of his father.
-Zimri, King of Israel, burned down his house around himself after military defeat. When Zimri saw that the city was taken, he went into the citadel of the royal palace and set the palace on fire around him. So he died,
-Saul and his armor-bearer Then Saul said to his armor-bearer, “Draw your sword, and thrust me through with it, so that these uncircumcised may not come and make sport of me. But his armor-bearer was unwilling, for he was terrified. So Saul took his own sword and fell on it. When his armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he also fell on his sword and died. Thus Saul died; he and his three sons and all his house died together
-Samson Then Samson prayed to the Lord,“Sovereign Lord, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.... Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.
-even Judas suicide is an act of remorse, deep regret. According to JW elders instruction, he gave visible, strong signs of repentance :)) When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood
Some people here looks "funny" with conclusions about suicide and intention to defend WT Company. And all that in the name of God and Bible.
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some quotes from https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102009288 (my emphasis and enumeration)
If, then, the clergy-laity distinction is not based on the model set by Jesus’ apostles and other early Christians, does that make it wrong? According to the Bible, yes.
All you are brothers.”—Matthew 23:8.
1. God’s Word tells us that all Christians serve as God’s ministers and that none is above or beneath the other. (2 Corinthians 3:5, 6)
2. Spiritually older men did, of course, serve as overseers, which included being shepherds and teachers. (Acts 20:28) However, these men were not paid clerics.
3. For the most part, they were ordinary working men—husbands and fathers. Moreover, they qualified to serve as overseers, not by attending religious seminaries, but by being diligent students of God’s Word and by cultivating the spiritual qualities required by God.
4. As for ministering within the congregation, Christian men in general are encouraged to reach out for that privilege, which is the custom among Jehovah’s Witnesses.—1 Timothy 3:1.
5. The clergy-laity distinction exalts the clergy class, an evidence being adulatory religious titles. Yet, Jesus said: “He that conducts himself as a lesser one among all of you is the one that is great.” (Luke 9:48) In harmony with that spirit of humility, he told his followers not to adopt religious titles.—Matthew 23:8-12.
2.-1. A paid clergy class can impose a heavy financial burden on the laity, especially when the former have lavish lifestyles. Christian overseers, on the other hand, care for their financial needs by doing normal secular work, thus setting a good example for others.*—Acts 18:1-3; 20:33, 34; 2 Thessalonians 3:7-10.
2.-2. Because a clergyman may depend on others for financial support, he might be tempted to dilute the Bible’s message in order to please parishioners. Indeed, the Scriptures foretold that this very thing would occur.
6. The clergy-laity distinction tends to cause lay people to relegate religion to the clergy, while the laity just turn up for weekly services. Yet, all Christians must be conscious of their spiritual need and be good students of the Bible.—Matthew 4:4; 5:3.
7. When the laity are Biblically uninformed, they can easily be misled by clerics, even exploited by them. Indeed, history contains many examples of such abuses.*—Acts 20:29, 30.
In order to adhere closely to the pattern set down in the Bible, Jehovah’s Witnesses have, not a clergy class, but unpaid spiritual shepherds and teachers who willingly minister to God’s flock.
What is wrong here? How with intentions and practice inside WT JWorg? Intentions are looking good, theoretically. But, in practice, phrase 1. none is above or beneath the other is not fully correct, or it is not correct at all. Because, 2. Spiritually older men did, of course, serve as overseers, which included being shepherds and teachers. By this explanation, this men are in, are putted in position to be above other people who are not enough "spiritually older", what ever that could mean to be "older". In fact this phrase "spiritually older" means that such men, male (not any female, god save you from female spiritually older person :))))), are ordained and appointed by Management Structure (In past WT Headquarter made approval, today CO doing this, formally, but Who are involved, in fact, in this process is "heavenly secret", i guess, haha)
Move ahead with 2. these men were not paid clerics. 2.-1. A paid clergy class can impose a heavy financial burden on the laity 2.-2. Because a clergyman may depend on others for financial support, he might be tempted to dilute the Bible’s. What's wrong with these statements? This is Half truth. Major elder class worldwide who are in congregations are not paid for ministry. They are half ammeters and half professionals, it depends on their experience and how deep and honest they personally are as Christians and as Persons. Other "appointed" servants are depends on other people money. They get financial support in many various forms. In money or in kind. So, yes they get paid for work they doing. And they depend on others for financial support. They receives some money, and they have sort of free Medical care and guess some Insurance and Pension fund. Many JW people working in Betel's are not "clergy" but have status of Elders, Ministerial Servants, Full Time Servants, CO-s, etc, they gave Oath to Poverty, and other similar stuffs unknown to Public. By Donation money JW members supporting, not only publishing magazines and publications and books, but Works aka Life of all others JW people who are involved in many and various Organizational Programs (Missioner activity, Building KH that belongs to Society not to congregants, Lawyers and Lawyers Firms that are Witnesses or non-Witnesses, for Court cases of all kind etc.) By that JW have paid classes of people who working In The Company.
3. serve as overseers, not by attending religious seminaries, Here we have another incorrect claim. Elders are invited and participated in "religious seminaries" prepared, arranged and guided by WT Society. They get instructions, advice's, new information's, etc. on how to run The Program inside Congregations.
4. Christian men in general are encouraged to reach out for that privilege, which is the custom among Jehovah’s Witnesses Here is one interesting thing i put just for emphasis question of Customs, Traditions and Folklore. All people, no matter of who they are, have this things. So, JW people are also under this influences. Good or bad, that is another question to discus.
5. not to adopt religious titles. WT Corporation has many Titles for people who are inside: Rank and File, Brother. Sister, Publisher, Unbaptized Publisher, Regular Pioneer, Auxiliary Pioneer, Special Pioneer, Missioner, Ministerial Servant, Elder, Overseer, Circuit Overseer, Secretary, Treasurer, Betel Member, International Servant or Volunteer, Construction Servant, Helper, Governing Body member, Anointed, etc. So, WT JWorg are not so different with titles for those who are inside Organization.
6. The clergy-laity distinction tends to cause lay people to relegate religion to the clergy, while the laity just turn up for weekly services. Because those "In Charge" aka elders are only one who are delegate by WT to give shepherding and teaching to the "flock" aka laity, that can cause relegate syndrome for laity aka rank and file members in JW congregation to be submissive to elders class in/to such measure to visit Sunday Church Meetings as all other religious people who come to meetings for Social Reasons.
7. When the laity are Biblically uninformed, they can easily be misled by clerics, even exploited by them. This is what take place in many issues in JW life and service. Take for example publication as "Shepherd book" or some other Internal memos coming from WT Headquarter to elders. If spiritual food in this documents are something based on Bible and are released to improve Congregation and Christian life and ministry, What can be reason for secrecy? Why only elders can see what was written there? That is clear evidence how exists Clergy-Laity distinction inside JWorg. What can be reason to not provide to members information's about content of such "only for Elders eye book"? Examples from Bible show how elders and all other members must follow "Bible principles". One of significant bible principles is that "Judicial things" must be free and open to all who want to know, who are involved, and those who are not involved in "case". "Investigation and Judging" must be in public place, beside city gates "Give judgment in your gates for truth, justice, and peace". Why in public? Think about reasons for that. Existence of "secret books and memos only for elders eyes" contribute to Elders-Laity class distinction" among JWorg. Is there something in this book that rank and file member will understand wrongly, or will be unable to understand rightly ?? :)))
Beside these what was said, think about why Elders call for "clergy privilege" when Judge on Court ask them to reveal things about something what took place inside JW members. And based on this Elders refuse to answer questions on Court. How that can be, JW elders are not nominally "Clergy" but acting as normal "Clergy" in full measure.
Well, some of clergy inside JWorg are not paid for service, and some are paid for service. Distinction existing.
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On 2/5/2019 at 2:22 PM, Jack Ryan said:
just read the suicide part of the book and it said this:
ATTEMPTED SUICIDE
81. A suicide attempt may be the result of deep despair or major depression.
Elders should deal carefully and compassionately with
such a person. In most cases, a judicial hearing is not required.
—Ps. 88:3, 17, 18; Prov. 15:13; Eccl. 7:7; g 4/14 pp. 6-9.
Judicial hearing ????? Stupid, Idiotic!!!!!
People who have such issue, problems needs Friendly "hearing", NOT Judicial.
Idiots!! (sorry for my language, but must give emotion on this)
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If you don't mind my open comment, but i think how it is very pathetic that so called Revalidation or Official Approval, Confirmation from GB must be released, given as first step, as Doctrinal teaching to allow JW men who want to have beard to have it.
I would not called this News as some sort of "new light", or "organizational progress", or "Org. is changing". Because if this news make you "happy", or make you "glad to see new Instruction comes on brotherhood" .... than i can say how you, dear people, don't see another thing:
- That the clergy aka GB determined the things they should not have to determine.
- That there are more/many things in JW life run by rules that should not have to exist, but existing because GB policy, management, ruling.
- This example proves how JW people are Subjected, expose to, Submissive to HUMAN RULES. And how some/many of you feels some sort of release and happiness now, when this Burden was put away from you.
Think, please, what other GB Rules administrates, governs (governing body) your life and you continuing to obey it/them.
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The WT Finance Department made the recommendations after a deep look, deep screening at the global situation, in and out of JWorg society . :)))))
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1 hour ago, Witness said:
Shepherding calls
I am very sure how this "duty" for elders are viewed as burden in their eyes.
"Flock" are often confused about purpose for such meetings, perhaps they are "guilty" for something :)))))) and that is why some or many of them feels it how such "shepherding" is mainly for "spiritually weak" members ,or just "must be done duty/visit".
Visiting brothers at least once a year, or twice....before CO visit congregation is hard and forced task for elders and i do not think how they are very happy with this WT "arrangement".
I can not recall they have visiting me in that way. Maybe once in a life time. :)))
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12 hours ago, Anna said:
Would this list be posted on JW.org? And would their addresses be there too? I am sure this is actually illegal, at least in the United States. Only the Police have the right to make such a list, it's called the sex offender registry. Do you have something similar in Croatia?
I do not see need for giving addresses. Is it legal to announce the names? This is interesting legal question for sure. Maybe initials of name and numbers how many people in this and that country made crime.
But, here comes to my mind, is it legal to announce the name of Dfd or Diss person in front of congregation if such individual not gave his/her written permission that his/her name can be publicly announced by elders from platform ????!!!! Does Judicial Committee asking for such permission in US or elsewhere ????? :))))
12 hours ago, Anna said:21 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:how much money was payed for various expenses
How would that protect children?
Money would not protect children in that way, of course.
But, your question in this form about context is something i would not expect from you !!
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11 hours ago, Anna said:
Before I respond, I would like to say, and I am sure you would agree, the main objective of ANY action would be to protect children by preventing child abuse from happening. So in view of that:
Agree in intention you want to have, but disagree in your reasoning, how publishing all possible information's about problem is of no benefit for such a goal.
- truthful information's about all cases from past to today
- put free space for listeners to make own conclusions and possibility to express it in responding comments, letters, talks, etc.
Disclosure info about this will help JW members to understand magnitude of this evil, and how this is reality not only in "worldly system under satan power", but is also devastating disease inside JW church with many JW members who suffer because of that. JW members, as i had seen before my left JW, in few short conversations, are rejecting this as problem, and never heard nothing similar had happened (here in Croatia, or in Germany, as one bro in telephone call from Hamburg area told me).
So, as firstly, THIS WILL HELP in that way to introduce how problem EXISTING inside JW congregations.
AFTER that, when information's made circle around all JW worldwide, they will need some time to absorb information's, and after they will need to share personal feelings, thoughts, etc. about issue. For this reason WT need to give FREE HAND for all those who want to talk about it. People will and must to come to state of awareness, awakened emotions and state of confusion and disbelief. For that reason those who "controlled their spirituality health" must give them space to TALK ABOUT. And NOT to Suppress. And not to Misguide them.
This can help JW community to take curse in which consciousness rises to a higher level, a spiritual awakening emerges from drowsiness from false security (false, conceited, imagined attitudes about self righteousness), catharsis comes, spiritual and thinking/rational purification can take position to replace most or all what is wrong.
By this you open the door to new era. To new heart. And that would give a chance to those who seeking the truth.
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Number theology have two side.
First - number of members must be small, because that proves Bible words how very few will find The Truth.
Second - number of members have to go up, to be bigger and bigger, because that proves how God giving His blessings on Church.
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