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Why do JWs have huge lunches / dinners after funerals?
Srecko Sostar replied to a topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
Like your firm stand in front them. But keep in mind how they not insist on this issue because, from other side, teaching says how children must take care on old parents, that means in all kind of help, physically, emotionally, and with money. As for spiritual help that would be primary task only for elders, especially because your daughter is ex JW, and by that, according to WT instruction she must not, or better to say, You must not speak about Bible with her, nothing that is about so called spiritual matters. Sad, sad. -
Why do JWs have huge lunches / dinners after funerals?
Srecko Sostar replied to a topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
We have two separate things Suza: 1. Hospitality in general sense and understanding This one sort of behavior of humans is human like, and all groups of all kind show it, it is not characteristic of  specific group, atheist, religious or "worldly shape" people    2. Hospitality to people who came to funeral This is connected not only with mere hospitality people want to show to others, but is connected to folkloric, custom, beliefs, superstition that is in relation with death and dead. And here we have great variety of details in customs around the world.Â- 27 replies
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Of course. But if Bible is word of God, not of man and "how they (man) spoke and how they (man) understood things", but a God's word, the letter to all humankind in all periods of time - Why He not inspired writers to writing words and sentences in a simple way to be understandable for all. Or, if God's intention is not for all to understand, but few who then would be religious leaders and interpreting "the truths" to the flock?
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--- in short and concise words, please explain me what do you mean by expression "inspired Bible text"?
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Ok, but still not see why would Tribe, after heard the message, told to Rook; "Thanks Srecko Sostar, you are our King"?? Why they not speak as any normal today, and say; "Mr Rook tell to the King Srecko, your King and our King, thanks for your mercy, we will contribute and give to you all our money ....."
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Is it possible, can somebody change colors of pill, red to blue and blue to read ... you see, i like blue color more then red.
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Why do JWs have huge lunches / dinners after funerals?
Srecko Sostar replied to a topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
As to my knowledge, custom of give hospitality to people who came to funeral (to give them food and drink) is not originated in JW community. As to many other "worldly" and pagan customs (that JW rejected or modify or copy) this is also completely "worldly" custom connected with dead person.- 27 replies
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If i understand this "principle" that means something like this: My college Mark, from work place (or he must not be my college from work, he can be from another Company inc.), was sent by Principle of the school and tell me; "Srecko, Mr. Principle said that you have to go to post office and send this letter. My respond (by Shaliach Principle) to Mark is; "Very well Sir Principle i do as you said to me Sir Principle" :))))
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Hi. It just came to me when i see word "compare" in sentence you wrote. Maybe problems arise when we human want "to compare" this with that, one verse with another, this person with other person. Nothing must be wrong with "comparing", but you know, "to compare" can cause many problems. Guess you understand how such activity (comparing) can be bad. Just try to expand picture. :)) Some quotes: Don't compare yourself with others. Just look at your own work ------------ Not that we dare to classify or compare ourselves with some of those ------------When we compare ourselves with others we are not walking by faith-------That means we will not compare ourselves with each other as if one of us were better and another worse---------------“To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.
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9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”[a] 2 The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” Sorry, but my intellectual, spiritual and other qualifications can not see and are not able to explain what in this two verses is same or similar or different or opposite to each other in relation to subjects; Michael, Lord 1 and Lord 2 and Lord 3 and Lord 4.   Â
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Please tell me who and when was collected manuscripts and decide that they are inspired or uninspired? Was that one person or more? Was that collector/s inspired while choosing text, letters, manuscripts, copies of manuscripts? If first original text has been inspired because original writer was inspired on what to write, was people who made copies and copies of copies also inspired and guided by same spirit who has been behind first writer/writing?
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Question for thinking: Who where "angels" that visited Abraham and Lot? in Genesis 18:1-3 Abraham addressed the three visitors as ‘Jehovah’. The two who left to visit Sodom, Lot called them ‘Jehovah’ (19:18), yet the one who remained, Abraham continued to address Him as ‘Jehovah’ (18:22,26,27,30,31,32,33) You have 3 angels. What was their names, rank, title, entity. Was one of them Michael great prince or Gabriel or some other highly positioned archangel, cherub, seraphs, angel messenger, angel guardian, angel investigator, angel warrior, angel punisher ... and so on? -things are not where we would like them to be -things are not where we think they should be -things are not always where they should be :))
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I have nothing against this conclusion. But this is first time, under this discussion, that someone mentioned how title archangel have not to be for just one person, it can be title/position for several separate entity.
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Angel of the Lord (or JHVH) Who is he? Angel of the Lord. If someone came to answer how he is Jesus or Michael or Word or Gabriel or .... i do not have nothing against. I expressed my opinion about Michael and why i think how he can not be firstborn Word. Wrong or right my life not depend on what i thing about that issue. If God want to "punish" me because i have wrong conclusion about it (you believe i am wrong) then i am not lonely. :)) Why you think how i must have answer on "Bible" questions while in same time all those clever people in WT Company changed many "Bible" teachings and expecting of flock to believe flip-flop doctrines. If you belong to JW then you are perhaps aware of Known Fact about WT teaching on same matter, for many years for WT bible scholars - Michael the Archangel was Roman Catholic Pope. On what Bible verses, reasoning, facts, spirit guided Company (organization) founded such explanation? Obviously on same that later make new explanation :))))
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Why you think that Michael (one entity) intervention disqualify Jesus as Savior ??? That would be as you say how Jesus Christ intervention in saving people in Armageddon would disqualify JHVH role as Savior and make him greater than JHVH!! That would be as you say how angels who went to Lot and his family to take them away (to save their life) from city of Sodom and Gomorrah disqualify JHVH role as Savior and made them greater than JHVH! That would be as you say how Moses, who was also sent, to free Israel nation from Egypt disqualify JHVH role as Liberator and Lider and make him greater than JHVH!!
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Rev 12:5,6 “And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days.” 12:7 " Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back." "son, shepherd, child" is that Lord Jesus Christ? just borne and in next moment he fight with devil, but not as the King of Kingdom but as Michael (just Michael without any prefix archangel, angel, prince....)??
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hehe, this is some sort of irony. If "Truth" never goes out, then WT org would never changed previous or past "The Truths" - doctrines, teachings, instructions, views. Well, that obviously means how WT was never in position to have real truth, all truth, Gods truth, because if they had the truth from first day in 19th century when CT Russell create this Company, all teachings would be the same today too. Looks like "spark of fire" are lost somewhere, somehow. is this what you mean with CSE? CSE members are associated with some of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world.
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If i noticed correctly ancient Greek and Latin alphabet was written mostly in Upper case (majuscule). Wikipedia source said: Greek majuscule (9th–3rd century BCE) in contrast to the Greek uncial script (3rd century BCE – 12th century CE) and the later Greek minuscule Roman majuscule (7th century BCE – 4th century CE) in contrast to the Roman uncial (4th–8th century CE), Roman Half Uncial, and minuscule
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Yeah, perhaps that would/can help. But, it is possible to have negative outcome too. Because if ancients have had wrong view and understanding about something, and we, today take such their standpoint and thoughts as relevant, truthful, but/or if we can't differentiate -what and why- past time people saw wrongly or correctly, then it is hopeless situation again.
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With same way of proving things, we can also conclude how nowhere in Bible said that Michael is The Son. That specific terminology are used only about Jesus in human life. With big S. All other creatures, heavenly and earthly are sons, with small letter s. If that mean something. Or big and small S,s are product of grammar that rises with time. In WT literature, Bible (not any mentioned of Michael with this particular and most important information with this title, position, description) Only Jesus prehuman existence is described as he is "God's firstborn Son", and Lord Jesus Christ as the only-begotten Son of God. Again, is it possible to find in Bible some text with; Michael the Son, Michael God's firstborn Son and Michael only-begotten Son? Does this observation giving proof for your or mine conclusions. Or we both missing something to see. Everything is possible. At the end of the day, no one of us see things as they really are. :))
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??why this forum computer system, rules not allow me to give Haha , Like and Upvote symbols for one and same comment? This and some previous.
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Please Billy, my expose is not to offend you, your homeland, origin or else. Apologize if you took my explanation this way.  All countries are wrong and wright. Something is better or not. Or people who live in particular country are satisfied with situation and for them their country is right place to live. For his neighbor next door can be opposite. All best, greetings from Croatia. Many people left my country for economic reasons. Well, for them something in our country is wrong. I am ok, so have no need to flee in USA or Switzerland :))) Â
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Dear Billy. According to my present understanding i would say that Michael acting under command of his King Jesus. Â Â
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I do not think the same. If Jesus is Michael the Archangel and vice versa, he have all authority over every single angel. Devil is also angel and his status, position is inferior in respect to same person identity, no matter if you named him Jesus or Michael, because you claim how both name are point out in fact the same person. Jesus the Human, rebuked satan few times while in desert and finally command devil to go away from him, so your arguments are weak. So, if Michael is the same person as Jesus, how come that he as Archangel in heaven can not done more than as Human on earth?
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"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him" ... not to Michael  that is firm state from Revelation 1:1 If we believe that this book was written in the end of first century, and Jesus the Human was resurrected in the year 33, ...so why he still have the name Jesus if his heavenly name, original name and identity is Michael the Archangel???Â
