Srecko Sostar

Please Bible Speaks do find also Mexico "cartilla" and then make compare about neutrality, refusing, bribe, persecution, worship.... 

5 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

If you have ever stepped in a Lego in the darkness

without shoes....painful :))) 

TV news recently said how Lego company recognized that they produced to much Lego cubes (little cubes) :))))

11 hours ago, Gone Away said:

You didn't use your spell-checker again!!!!!

A profit center is a part of a corporation that directly adds to its profit. 

A profit center is a business unit or department within an organization that generates revenues and profits or losses. Management closely monitors the results of profit centers, since these entities are the key drivers of the total results of the parent entity. The manager of a profit center usually has the authority to make decisions regarding how to earn revenue, and which expenses to incur.

Profit centers may be included in the segment reporting of a publicly-held entity. Privately-held businesses do not have to report this information.

Other types of reporting entities within a business are the cost center and investment center. A cost center is only responsible for its costs, while an investment center is responsible for its return on assets. In terms of responsibility level, the profit center lies between the cost center and responsibility center.

web source :))

44 minutes ago, Bible Speaks said:

 

crowd of working people, proletariat, working class  ....that is how this males looked to me :))) maybe they belong to Labour Union, Branch ? 305 - metal workers  :)))))

42 minutes ago, Bible Speaks said:

Can’t see Our Lord Christ wearing a tee shirt ? 

also, i can not see Lord Jesus wearing a tie :))))

On 3/8/2018 at 05:18, Queen Esther said:

In  warmer  countries  yes

In NIgeria (call number +234) today is  23°C/74°F

:))))))) very good for T-shirts 

For colder countries people. Get bigger number of T-shirt and put the shirt over the suits, dress. 

Funny side is over. Now little serious thought. "Keep doing this in remembrance of me" 

⁵⁰ But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. ⁵¹ I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

⁵³ Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. ⁵⁴ Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Can we conclude from this words of Him, how life forever and resurrection depends on eating and drinking symbols? And if you not eat and drink you have no life in you? So why to be scared of taking symbols of life and resurrection??

²⁶ While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”

²⁷ Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. ²⁸ This is my blood of the^[a]covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Blood is for many. So, why GB stopped people of participation in blood symbols and by that not show gratitude to Him for forgiveness of our sins?

Good morning Allen. Thanks for informative links.

About your thoughts. 

Is it necessary to compare WTBTS with other "worldly" organizations or with "false religions"?

Does JWorg members have sufficient  insight into their organization to make such a comparison?

Is it permissible and is it good for a JW member to compare their religion with another if JWorg is the only true organization?

If yes, should they be compared to/with  better or worse organizations and individuals than WTBTS  and GB themselves is/are?

:))

I received email with this information, old but new  

Again, it shows how Watchtower, as "mother organization" for JW, are trading and commercial company and who know what else/other identity will come on as time passes. 

http://www.goldmansachs.com/gsam/pdfs/growth-summit-2012/2012GMS_RECAP2.pdf

 

On 2/17/2018 at 23:19, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I spent some time in the Congo in 1974, and saw Brothers and Sisters in RAGS that would not be acceptable at any Kingdom Hall in the United  States.

People love wearing nice and new clothes, living in nice homes, and so on ... As I read comments and ideas about clothes, I remembered similar in one comment in the KH. The sister is a wife of high position elder in Betel, Zagreb. The WT study article talked about KH and this sister praised how we have a beautiful hall today, not as before when some looked like a barn. Some of the meeting places, in the villages, were in brothers' houses, and those families dealing with agriculture and livestock for life. People and many rural areas in Croatia (or anywhere else in the world) at that time were modest and poor, (some of them still today) so it was different from KH in cities (modest, too).
Getting back to the sister Elka comment -
"... today we have halls worthy of JHVH, and we are not in the halls that looked like barns." She said that with tone of voice like all what was before were been worthless and how all that places for meeting were been something ugly.  I can not except such reasoning, and after meeting went to ask her, "What you have against barns?? Jesus has been born in barn (stable)....God likes people and not looks at wals..."

2 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

Jeremiah 6:10, Zechariah 7:11, Deuteronomy 29

good verses

⁵ Yet the Lord says, “During the forty years ...... i spend (spent) my 40 years in JW religion :)))) 1975-2015

^4 But to this day the Lord has not given you a mind that understands or eyes that see or ears that hear.  .... now i can see little, little more then before :)))

Space M. hi,

 let us skip the words "prophets and prophecies" in both aspects, as inspired and uninspired  

then we have "interpreters and interpretations" - not inspired :)) of course, GB are not the only one spokesperson for god as G. Jackson clearly gave his interpretation or explanation about that issue  

 

2 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

Jesus was NOT a charitable man.

Dear Allen, i am hoping you will be feel better tomorrow.  

"The appeals court drew a distinction between common understanding of a group’s religious beliefs and an individual member's adherence to those beliefs."

perhaps some male JW, elders, can be in this role, because they have experience in judicial committee :)))).... especially if they are appointed as"King and Priest" who will judge the whole worldly people in Armageddon. Why not now? To get some more experience.

It is possible that  first part of Armageddon is already here.. ... at least for Russian JW.

Not to mention some other 30 countries where ban and prosecution of JW are in progress for decades, so theirs Armageddon last too long or something is wrong with perception about time and place and events about what must take place before, during and after The End time. 

6 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

POPE and its understanding of the word "infallible".

 Pope John XXIII once remarked: "I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible."^[23]

Something close to that was famous G. Jackson words before ARC. Paraphrased: "All JW have own Bibles. If we, GB, said something unbiblical, all JW will see we said wrong, and not obligated to obey that."

IN THEORY!! :)))) Or even not in theory, because 3/4 JW members, to use your ratio, will/ are consider such thoughts as SIN.  

4 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

It has to do, with people already have been given the Spirit of God 1 Corinthians 12:7,

4 hours ago, AllenSmith said:

1 Corinthians 5:11 American Standard Version (ASV) (Public Domain)

¹¹ but ^[a]as it is, I wrote unto you not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no, not to eat.

Hi. I can not see what is connection between this verse in 12:7 with 5:11. 

In chapter 12 speaks about different manifestations of Spirit on every, each person in congregation. ON other hand FDS aka GB claimed for several  times in WT magazines that they are not inspired by Holy Spirit. If person is not inspired by that Spirit it means how no manifestation would be possible to see in his life and in his words and in his acts.

But GB also in the same time claim:  Organization is spirit guided. What is organization??? Congregation? All congregations worldwide? Congregation is Christ body aka people. In WT world - organization is corporation, NOT people or congregations. Because GB gives instruction to members how they have to be in step with organization or chariot. Chariot is just used in interpretation that suit to WT explanation for public use, to put people under influence of man in the name of god. 

How is possible that so called Organization (impersonal thing aka legal entity) is guided by spirit but people inside are not inspired by that same spirit? That is in contradiction with chapter 12. In one moment we have publicly declared statement that GB is not inspired and all publications are not inspired and all instructions and doctrines are not inspired - because of errors - but despite this fact organization  is still guided by spirit. :))))))))

Is there some difference in meaning to be inspired and to be guided by spirit? If it is then theology must clear this issue.

On 1/8/2018 at 17:41, Anna said:

I wondered why this issue was even raised.

Now when they have only few magazines per year they need to have some extra, additional material to write about. And because all important theme they were already told and wrote, now they must invent some new clear, hot water to talk about and to make deeper spiritual knowledge, insight in the bible for the flock that still stayed inside. :))) 

17 hours ago, Queen Esther said:

He is looking sad Â Â but of sure he was a Sweetie   and funny too   I hope, in the NW the animals living a bit longer !  JTR. is hoping, his loving dog's may come back home, but I can't believe it. The resurrection shall be only for humans, right ?

I do not know about his sadness. He have face like that, and he is also old in this picture. So, not has same enthusiasm as when he was younger :)) 

Resurrection? good idea.

living longer... but died anyway. Not sound happy. But if JW believe they shall live forever as human why would be problem that animal live forever too? Or, as according to present explanation about Adam and Eve and how they looked at animal whose died at some point, as explanation how first humans because of that experience understand what is dead and what looks like the penalty for eating from the tree...then animal will die in this way or another. As for reason of sicken and old or as food.

But that all would be in contradiction to present hopes about verse in Revelation   "He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain."

For whom will be no more death, sorrow, crying, pain???? Only humans, not the animals also???? Smell like injustice to me. Or am I too touchy, oversensitive???

But, on other hand, if life would not died in some point of time ...we will not give chance for future babies (human) and pets (animal). Or, we shall must colonize other planets and systems in universe for all that population :))) 

19 hours ago, Nana Fofana said:

“The spirit of the truth . . . will guide you into all the truth.”* (John 16:13

According to one reference work, the Greek word for “guide” in that verse means “to show the road.”

BUT your WT study edition said that FDS or GB is not INSPIRED BY HOLY SPIRIT..............

IN  SIMPLIFIED  EDITION WORDING that in fact means that Spirit of the truth NOT GUIDING FDS aka GB and not "shows the road" for WT and JW... as Bible quotation and meaning of that verse you provide would suppose to be. Because GB rejects so called "inspiration from Holy Spirit" as they publicly declared few times in their magazines.   

Thanks for revealing this facets of The Truth about the "Truth". :))

Read please, what you writing as a prove. Because by proving in this manner you proves opposite of your intention.     

19 hours ago, Nana Fofana said:

the congregation, which is his body.

...it is not organized religion in form of Jehovah's Witnesses global congregation that running Watchtower and all sister Companies worldwide.  

Or vice versa ....it is not Watchtower and all sister companies that running Jehovah's Witnesses religion.

:))))

Nero (he) passed away in 2013 at age of 15

15 hours ago, Foreigner said:

stick to bible principle and the teachings of Christ?

"love your enemy" ...  "treat people the same way you want them to treat you" - very good bible principles, highly academically said :))))

15 hours ago, Foreigner said:

Other than that, its people like you that dumbfound the prospect.

"Other than that, its people like you that dumbfound the prospect.""  - also sort of academically  explained reasoning

15 hours ago, Foreigner said:

Did anyone see Jesus on an Arabian horse or a donkey?

Did anyone see Jesus incorporated his "movement"? and with 12 apostles established Board of Directors?

15 hours ago, Foreigner said:

You’re nothing more than an enabler of false narratives and propaganda. What kind of Academia is that? And whats your excuse?

sorry for not respond on this... i have lack of inspiration at a moment :))) ...and please, not be confused with my choice of colour :))))))))

4 hours ago, Foreigner said:

So, NO! There is NOTHING academic about this portion of the forum.

yeah, perhaps you are absolutely right. WT are very openly said to their members - do not look for higher education. Do not be "academic" in this way or another. Stick with what we have authorized and you will be safe. Well, what  is for Am Haarets left to do but to downsize their standards from middle level to level of "criticized", not only those who are "academic" but their own religious leaders who are "blind leaders of blind". Not my words, It is written in a one very known Academic book aka Bible. :))

19 hours ago, JW Insider said:

This is NOT an academic site

:))))) but we all consider ourselves as Academic citizens, and by that we constitute this Forum to be in such shape :))))) Academic....because we all have something important and very  scholarly to say about almost all issue. Group as such forming quality or not quality in thoughts that was expressed. And this level of conversations constitute or not would be this site academic or not :)))

7 hours ago, David Normand said:

When Paul commented about women

I think that we must not forget the fact how Paul was a Jew and despite the fact how "new religion, new religious system" was established by Jesus, major number of all first Christians was Jews and they just imitate and replicate many things from their old religion as Jews. Also social, society environment until today was/is "This is a Man's World".  

7 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

Another sister was the accounts servant.

W.H.Conely was the 1 President of Zion's WTTS with Joseph Russell (Charles father) as Vice president and Charles as secretary/treasurer. After few years Charles became President and his wife Maria was secretary-treasurer. 

Today woman can only be bookkeeper, or writing some articles inside corporation.....and maybe have some secret influence on their highly positioned husbands, and eventually in such role put "women's"  influence on movement and corporal or spiritual things. :)))