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"love your enemy" ... "treat people the same way you want them to treat you" - very good bible principles, highly academically said :)))) "Other than that, its people like you that dumbfound the prospect."" - also sort of academically explained reasoning Did anyone see Jesus incorporated his "movement"? and with 12 apostles established Board of Directors? sorry for not respond on this... i have lack of inspiration at a moment :))) ...and please, not be confused with my choice of colour :))))))))

yeah, perhaps you are absolutely right. WT are very openly said to their members - do not look for higher education. Do not be "academic" in this way or another. Stick with what we have authorized and you will be safe. Well, what is for Am Haarets left to do but to downsize their standards from middle level to level of "criticized", not only those who are "academic" but their own religious leaders who are "blind leaders of blind". Not my words, It is written in a one very known Academic book aka Bible. :))

:))))) but we all consider ourselves as Academic citizens, and by that we constitute this Forum to be in such shape :))))) Academic....because we all have something important and very scholarly to say about almost all issue. Group as such forming quality or not quality in thoughts that was expressed. And this level of conversations constitute or not would be this site academic or not :)))

I think that we must not forget the fact how Paul was a Jew and despite the fact how "new religion, new religious system" was established by Jesus, major number of all first Christians was Jews and they just imitate and replicate many things from their old religion as Jews. Also social, society environment until today was/is "This is a Man's World". W.H.Conely was the 1 President of Zion's WTTS with Joseph Russell (Charles father) as Vice president and Charles as secretary/treasurer. After few years Charles became President and his wife Maria was secretary-treasurer. Today woman can only be bookkeeper, or writing some articles inside corporation.....and maybe have some secret influence on their highly positioned husbands, and eventually in such role put "women's" influence on movement and corporal or spiritual things. :)))

:)))))))))))) oh man. "Growing problem".... in this 21 century or in all centuries from day 1?? hahah Do you know what is real growing problem? Lies, deceiving, manipulation, terror, forcing people to do something, violence of all kinds.... Human sexuality involves all inside (and outside us). This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors. Does human explore own (or partner body) with touching, looking ... or with tabu - not touch, not smell, not taste, not look ... Who was put all process in body? Erection too? What are you doing when you hungry or thirsty? Or must go to toilet? Law of instincts was made by Higher Power. Social laws regulate some behaviours inside family, tribe, people, nation.... What is primar, first came in existence? Body law and inside feeling for good and bad (conscience)?? Or Human laws (religious, political, national...)? Why. Understand why we do this or that, is more important than making rule and tabu on masturbation. When we get closer to answer why 10 year old masturbate or why 18 year or 45 or 65 doing this, then we will see better, more. Why one became paedophile? Because he masturbate too much? Or looked porno movies? Or ...? Masturbating person became depressed and suicidal? Because he masturbate or because he doesn't know how, can not realised himself in specific needs he have, he can not, or do not know how to fulfill and find emotional needs, states .... inside his social group? Issue is big and complex and complicated. :)))

thanks for respond. yes we missing very much :)))

In those times cell phones not existed and regular home telephone was very rare, too. He can not made a call, or forget to do that ... 2-3 times :))))))

Background Mr. Menachem M. Schneerson has been the Chief Executive Officer and President of Watchtower, Inc. since April 30, 2009. Mr. Schneerson serves as the Chairman of Watchtower, Inc. He is a Real Estate Investor and Manager and has been involved in real estate investment for the over twenty years. Through Delson Holding, Mr. Schneerson is involved with the management of a portfolio of buildings in New York City. He has been a Director of Watchtower, Inc. since April 30, 2009. https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=58830587&privcapId=35951450&previousCapId=35951450&previousTitle=Watchtower, Inc.

9 "Some may feel that they can interpret the Bible on their own. However, Jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food. Since 1919, the glorified Jesus Christ has been using that slave to help his followers understand God’s own Book and heed its directives. By obeying the instructions found in the Bible, we promote cleanness, peace, and unity in the congregation. Each one of us does well to ask himself, ‘Am I loyal to the channel that Jesus is using today?’" - w16 nov p.15,16 p.9 jworg bible with comments; The Good News According to Matthew Overview of Matthew Jesus’ Final Ministry in Jerusalem (21:1–23:39) Matthew 23:2 seated themselves in the seat of Moses: Or “appointed themselves to Moses’ place,” by presumptuously claiming his authority as interpreters of divine law.

“The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” (Matt. 24:45) WT feb 2017 What if a man claims his expressions are not inspired, but still expects us to follow his teachings and obey his direction? Does he then get a free pass from testing process? If we are commanded to test an expression which a man claims is inspired from God, how much more caution should we exercise when the man does not claim inspiration, yet expects us to accept his words as if he were channeling the Almighty? - 1 John 4:1 “By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today.” (w09 11/15 p.14 par. 5 "Treasure Your Place in the Congregation") To claim one is not speaking under inspiration, while simultaneously claiming one is God’s channel of communication is to speak a contradiction.

The flaps are on the plane (on wings), so that their pilot or pilots can lift or put down the flaps. The engine power of the aircraft and the position of the flaps must be aligned so that the aircraft could to get up or down. My amateur knowledge. :))))) Engines of plane in this case producing "wind"and moves whole "organization" of plane stuff and passengers. Where they are going/flying now? Wind in some bible terminology representing spirit. Spirit of person. God, devil, people. All of them producing some "winds" to blow. All of them have impact, influence, control on moving of our, their "boat" or "plane" :)))

tack tacking zigzag Nautical: the heading of a sailing vessel, when sailing close-hauled, with reference to the wind direction. a course run obliquely against the wind. one of the series of straight runs that make up the zigzag course of a ship proceeding to windward. WHAT IS, WHO IS, WHAT KIND OF w i n d FORCING WT company to change courses??

@Witness @Witness very deep thoughts, like it very much. Be blessed dear Witness :))

what if pillow can be/would be second witness about your sins before judicial committee :))))))))))Â Â Â

...pagan origins of pillows...:)))))))))

@Witness excellent !! Thank you very much

Ruling oriented brothers, just example :))) by John Cedars source. Â Â

quote from one source: "In the United States, ideally, we are led by a government and not rulers. A government exerts its power based upon reason and the interests of its people (look up "the tragedy of the commons" for an explanation of how to logically determine what should be regulated - there is a considerable amount of personal behavior that a government can logically find a legitimate interest in regulating, but such regulation should be based upon the external effects of this personal behavior that are uncovered through reason). A ruler exerts his power arbitrarily and according to personal interests. A government founded on reason only regulates that behavior which has an impact beyond one's self. A ruler dictates all that may be done, even in the privacy of one's own home." JW have "governing body". GB are main church body that interprets Bible, giving instructions, and decisions on members behaviour. Also, what and how this people/members need, must to act according to their interpretations. For that GB need rules also. Government governs over people. So WT is government. GB members are both, governors and rulers, as term "governing body" tells us. The government is the group of people who are responsible for governing it. Government consists of the activities, methods, and principles involved in governing. The exercise of authority over a state, district, organization, institution, etc.; direction; control; rule; management. :)

Oh dear Dee. This looked as complication to me :)) To make other illustration. Old Jew people as nation are physical and spiritual continuation from time of Moses until this day today. Jehovah Witnesses have its beginning in 1935 as some kind of continuation of Bible Students (from 1879), because WTBTS is/was legal Mother of both group. By that we can talk about some sort of "physical and spiritual" continuation. But JW or WT have no connection with 1 century Jesus followers as CONTINUATION. Talking about "spiritual" connection and continuation in such way is in field of speculation and wishes. :))

Sorry but I think how such kind of appointment was done by Jesus in 1 century to apostles and other spiritual men. :)) So why would he repeat that again in 19 century. Because he said to apostles how he is with them in all times and periods till the end. This is CONTINUATION. :))

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Philippians 1:15 "It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill." Who else? Here is answer too :)) Old Catholic church preaching, all other Christians churches and denominations preaching. What is problem? Extent? Why this is important? Jesus and apostles have little extent. So what? :))

Bible have much more verses :)))

also exist many other who doing same or similar :)))