Srecko Sostar

Did women look after sheep, goats ... in ancient time of OT? Were the Shepherdesses only to female sheep and goats?

Why your objection that others have the wrong mindset, when you yourself are advocating the wrong attitude about women and claiming that God has an unchangeable Order. Well there is no immutable. He revoked the Order from OT and placed another Order through NT. And change will continue to happen.

On the one hand, God creates Adam and Eve who are not given the concept of patriarchy or the concept of the man (Adam) as the only one who has the last word in everything. On the other hand, it later allows for a system of patriarchy and polygamy and slavery. Then enters a phase in which it softens the laws of OT and creates a concept of equality within the Christian community in which it still relies on a slightly softer patriarchal relationship between man and woman. And as a special new level, architecture emerges in which men and women become representatives of the government with functions that include / unite political and religious power (Kings and priests). This approach is unique in that it allows women what they have never been allowed to do in either Judaism or Christianity. To rule over the people (the only OT exception, I think, is Deborah in the capacity of Judge) and to perform priestly service. The activity of the Prophetess was also an exception. But it is precisely these exceptions that speak of a God who has no problem with the concepts (out of known "Order") in which women are given to be in positions for which some zealous/stubborn men claim to be the only right given to them.

Due to the increase in crime, such as theft, robbery and burglary .....

144000 = Kings = political/administrative service/position........both, male and female 144000 = Priests = spiritual/religious service/position.........both, male and female Priest = https://www.dictionary.com/browse/priest noun a person whose office it is to perform religious rites, and especially to make sacrificial offerings. (in Christian use) a person ordained to the sacerdotal or pastoral office; a member of the clergy; minister. (in hierarchical churches) a member of the clergy of the order next below that of bishop, authorized to carry out the Christian ministry. a minister of any religion. verb (used with object) to ordain as a priest. Did Chloe belong to 144,000? Did some other women in the first century and later belong to 144,000? If so, then they had the same type of calling as the male members. Same type of call. Same kind of service. The same amount of pay, so to speak.

Thank you for your reply. And it seems more natural and accurate to me that JWs consider themselves followers and disciples of Christ. I think that's what other Christian denominations conclude about themselves too.

So doesn’t God support gender equality when He promises "144,000" that they are all kings and priests regardless of gender? What they will be in heaven (or on earth) with Christ? Male, female or both or neither?

I guess it's also amazing how former Jehovah's Witnesses manipulate a subject without knowledge and terminology. Especially when interjecting modern thought to the past. Do you support the idea that all JW members are “uninspired prophets” in any context of the meaning of that word? And would a more modern name ("Jehovah's Prophets") suit them better today in this present modern era, than the one given to them by Rutherford in the past?

How SM do show ignorance?

It amazes me that Rutherford was not familiar with this precise and common knowledge about terminology, because the new name, from 1931 onwards, would have sounded better like "Jehovah's Prophets". But when you explain to us the difference between an “inspired” and an “uninspired” prophet then I see where Rutherford’s place is. Yes, I am aware of this flip-flop about using this particular term i WTJWorg publications. Agree , they are “Normal Prophets” with flip-flop doctrines and understanding with variable knowledge of unimportant things. So according to your logic, it is quite normal that "uninspired prophets" have full freedom and permission to prophesy whatever seems right to them, even if it was complete nonsense for those "uninspired prophets" who later reject previous "prophecies" or adapt it to new level of knowledge. If all “normal prophets” are equal, then most JWs have acquired the same spiritual level because of which there is no need for elders to act as teachers and pastors. However, you do not acknowledge that a woman can be on the same spiritual level as a man, but that only a man is in the position of a shepherd. You have the wrong source of information about this thing.

It was not my intention to insult, but I asked the SM a question regarding his thesis.

WTJWorg addressed the topic of “prophets” in their Insight encyclopedia. I went to their site to be reminded of what they wrote. Of course, JWs tend to use a certain term in a way and in a model that suits them in a particular situation. A “normal JW” will never use the term “prophet” on himself, but most often “witness”, “announcer”, "publisher" and the like. But also, when JW would talk about “prophets” he would use the terms “inspired” (from God or from the devil) and even more significant terminology is “true and false prophet”. Analogously, are JWs true or false (prophets) publishers and witnesses today? JWs deal with interpretations of the biblical text and predictions of events from biblical texts that are enigmatic or in the form of prophecy. When they make a mistake in interpretations, they are "false prophets", aren't they? And when their doctrine will remain unchanged forever then we will be able to call them “true prophets,” right? How does a “normal JW prophet” come to “knowledge”? Through verbal and written "prophecy" of GB, of course. GB is The Main Ecclesiastical Body for all JWs, and they are Guardian of Doctrine. So the “normal JW” is just a transmitter of GB "revelations", not some sort of “prophet” who, through personal spiritual effort, came up with the impetus for “prophecy” with the help/incentive of "spirit". "Normal JW prophet" works on the copy / paste model. They absorb information from "earthly mother organization" and then transmit it through public preaching. JW "prophesies" (about) his faith in .....this and that.

Is the door-to-door work, run by JW members (Christians), a non-inspired prophecy work? Analogously, are they, JWs, uninspired prophets?

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I didn't expect you to write this nonsense.

I get the impression that you have a list of two groups, on one are the media sources that always presents the truth, and on the other list are the media sources that always presents lie.

I respect opinion in your claim that you do not do opinions.

Robert Hendrics, a JW spokesperson speaks about all kind of worship, that members doing in this period, as "modern day miracle". Also, how WTJWorg is now "much more accessible organization". And about "hybrid format in the future". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrMyGZQ3bk8

Wrong conclusion based on opinion

But are animals around Chernobyl getting cancer, 30 years after the accident? “It's very rare that we see cancer in wild animals, regardless of radiation levels,” Brown says. - https://sciencenorway.no/forskningno-norway-radioactivity/can-animals-and-plants-tolerate-more-radioactivity-than-us/1431783 In fact, a debate roils in the scientific literature about the health of the microbes, fungi, plants and animals that live around Chernobyl. Some scientists have documented thriving wildlife now that people have left, suggesting that lingering radioactive contamination doesn’t pose a significant threat. But other scientists have found mostly negative effects of radiation on the health and abundance of creatures, from birds to mammals, with many populations smaller in more heavily contaminated areas. This controversy has only sharpened in recent years. - https://knowablemagazine.org/article/food-environment/2022/scientists-cant-agree-about-chernobyls-impact-wildlife

No, especially because we are ALL participants of debates under JW Open Club.

Your original objection was about the plants (roses). The answer was related to that type of objection. ............. People? There is never peace with them. People are too (radio)-active by themselves, on their own.

Vast areas of land in Ukraine and Belarus remain off limits due to radioactive contamination, but plant life in these areas is flourishing (Credit: Getty Images)

Confused about such claim. Let see how. Ah well. If we want more joy, we must add more: -money to our bank account -books in our library -roses in our garden .......... etc. That is logic?

Nice, but what evidence You are able to give for proof? You just interpreted some verses and show how you do believe in their fulfillment about present events. You showed your faith as evidence for claim. I can accept or denied fact that you have faith in things you spoke. How can you prove there was war in heaven?