Srecko Sostar

When Bible said how "whole world is under the power of devil", that is not proof how whole world is automatically evil, but only that ruler of this World is devil. But because JW beliefs how Jesus is King from 1914, that would mean how Jesus is Ruler and how this World is under power of Jesus, too. Or not? That is question for WTJWorg Bible Scholars. But back to first issue. Humanity is not more or less evil because of JW interpretations. Would we say how Eve and Adam became evil because of devil question about fruit? Did the evil influence of the devil come through the question? Or through some bad mental energy? Or by spoken words? Or by visualization with snake? People are in capacity to doing bad things, but people are ready to help too. Also today, centuries after Adam and Eve perfection. So, whole world is mixed with good and evil things no matter of devil. Even in JW Spiritual Paradise we see good and evil "fruits".

This is very serious. Just speculation, but what if each of 4 letters represents one word? Similar to expresion: And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am

I see what you mean. What I mean, Jews should know how to pronounce old Jews names, without vowels, written in the Bible. That would be start, at least for hear how name JHVH have to sound, on Jew language of course :)) Perhaps from that point, interested people, or linguists can be able to show direction how not to pronounce this the holiest Name IF wrong pronunciation can bring shame or defilement of that Name.

We today know how to pronounce Jesus name ..... because what? Jews today speaking Jesus name as Yeshua? If they know what missing letters-vowels to put in Jesus name, so they can tell us how to pronounce JHVH? Or?

@Anna do you remember my mistake with - worth noting or worth nothing. One single letter making meaning completely opposite. Is that can be the case also with how to pronounce JHVH? Some people say it can be. If that is possible than it is very good to follow what we know for sure, to address God with, My Dear Friend, My Dear Best Friend., because JW people are motivated to be friends with God according to WTJWorg. But, what Jesus practiced was to say, Father and/or God ... as in his Last and Final Words: Eli, Eli, lama sabahtami . Very significant. Not Father ... Not Jehovah,..... but... My God. His Final Testimony was not speaking aloud name Jehovah or however Jew spelled JHVH. With his last breath He used common title - God.

With this information we can conclude how it is not only "family violence" problem as some here want to present CSA in WTJWorg. This numbers proves "institutional violence" too.

Thanks!

Yes, private handling with private lawyers can bring other results. I see that you speaking about "genuine victims". So "fake victims" will enter ARC program to get some money that will not be received in private lawsuit? And do you think how Redress Commission collects cases without checking? Do you want us to believe that JW lawyers who representing WTJWorg are more honest than those lawyers who representing opposite side? :)) Sounds fair to me. Problem is if you have a very old car, so insurance declares total damage for what is not total damage at all. The reason is that the price of a vehicle of that year on the market is lower than the price of a turn signal and a headlight, so to speak. ;))

This is super. Jesus said; "In your own Law ..." Very specific choice of words - YOUR OWN. He didn't say My Father Law, or My Teaching, but YOUR OWN LAW. Jesus beat them with their own weapons aka Their Own Law. Nothing about what you want to sell us here. Stick to Context Brother Cesar! :))) Appendix Fact one) Jesus know how in some situation can be false and true witness/es Fact two) Jesus is witness about himself. Jesus is First Witness Fact three) Father is invisible and is in The Heaven. Father is Second Witness Fact four) How would/will old Jew Judicial Committee summon Father for a hearing? Fact five) Jesus put them in impossible position referring, invoking them to their own law.

Slow down please. EVERY Commission can be biased. Even JW elders Judicial Committee (Commission). They are all only human, as people would say (justifies) when something goes wrong. :)) Who should be put to death by whom in ARC ???? Read again verse 16. This "two or more" who should be "taken along" are not witnesses of wrongdoing but witnesses of (victim) who going to his/her bro/sis for conversation about alleged sin he/she made to her/him. Again, they are witnesses of "second approach" because "first approach" failed. JW elders, and you, have error interpretations and application. What if accused is "younger man" ??? Or individual (male, female, child) without "title"??? This is super. Jesus said; "In your own Law ..." Very specific choice of words - YOUR OWN. He didn't say My Father Law, or My Teaching, but YOUR OWN LAW. Jesus beat them with their own weapons aka Their Own Law. Nothing about what you want to sell us here. Stick to Context Brother Cesar! :)))

The organisation says it will sign up because of new rules introduced by the federal government, which mean it would lose its charity status - and subsequent tax exemptions - for continuing to hold out. "Now that the law requires charities to join the scheme, Jehovah's Witnesses will comply," it said in a statement to AAP on Wednesday. "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it is their responsibility before God to respect and co-operate with the authorities." - https://7news.com.au/politics/jehovahs-witnesses-to-join-redress-scheme-c-2278906.amp?fbclid=IwAR1LpqH2VhAS6zdSCrRi_PIE4G_TGS3HbLMl4Thai6GrUEAiqMWchS3-bgA The organisation says it will sign up because of new rules introduced by the federal government, which mean it would lose its charity status - and subsequent tax exemptions - for continuing to hold out. "Now that the law requires charities to join the scheme, Jehovah's Witnesses will comply," it said in a statement to AAP on Wednesday. "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it is their responsibility before God to respect and co-operate with the authorities." - https://au.news.yahoo.com/jehovahs-witnesses-join-redress-scheme-061052602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ9pgYa7pNtBc_oEWG53LZETBGtFA4Fadn2IXb5actDJqmXVSObESwZZAoG8-IMh2QzGj3mJAELSBLT_Sf3D2euPAVmJQA9O2D_HT9p8XM1NY-rCd-MwnXj9DpiQ1DxsCCYH24OhIuAgSBRxHtFwN8YsmTnQnkVCxhn9xtzEsCsD WTJWorg have same choice as every JW in the world, to obey or disobey secular authorities. If something what secular government ask them to do, according to their beliefs they are not obligated to obey if God say opposite. In this case "God told" them before few months NOT to join the scheme. And WTJWorg refused to join. Now, they reexamine Roman 13 and decide how "God say, join". How is possible that all those wise men in WTJWorg did not know what these verses instructed them to do from first minute? They showed to the World again, It is all about Money! They CHOSE money instead principle; Let your Yes be Yes, and your No be No. ..............For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Mat 5 37

No problem.

That is true.

Do you think so? I would submit that the entire letter is strange, It can be. From first sentence to the last. But, keeping in mind that these are JW members, then it stops being weird because the ideas came from someone within the System. It can only be strange that people on the outside don’t understand the JW System :)). As I said, it is good for members of society (of different ideologies) to connect, at least through children. Because an individual often needs the help of the wider community to be able to live. Sometimes the whole community finds itself in a situation of being affected by a natural disaster and if they do not act, how much so, mutually it will be harder for them to overcome the crisis. Physical or mental. So, it is not bad for children to be involved in humanitarian matters, but with measure and with what children are and should be ... The future of a better humanity. And not under the control of the System that makes them future adults who will blindly follow GB.

And you don't think children should have fun and play games ? You don't think children should be allowed to live a 'childhood' ? Of course not, because your Leaders tell you that children must be kept away from the real world. You don't want children to build up their own spiritual immune system.... Not to mentioned Sunday Ice Cream money (after KH meeting). It is good to learn children about charity and sharing with others. But, is it really proper to do that with Institutional Cartoons of Company who have real-estate riches, stocks, etc?

Why you call my name in vain? :))) Children want to be like adults. Adults want their children to be like themselves or something bigger and better. Children imitate adults and accept suggestions. I think these mentioned children of JW parents are doing what their parents suggested to them. Sometimes it can be nice, cute, funny, fun, delighting adults and the like. This child's letter, which is presented in the topic, has at least two elements. It begins with a good introduction, then turns in a direction that is religiously marked because the child mentions the Bible in a way that is characteristic of religiously oriented people, someone who is engaged in Bible study. In other words, the sentence sounds like it was written by an adult, not a child. This is followed by a completely strange wording that invites the recipient of the letter to go to JWORG. This is where the child's mind, children's openness and naivety completely cease, and the influence of propaganda begins. So, I don’t mind children writing letters to their neighbors at a time when their surroundings are affected by some trouble, if their parents want it. It is a kind of social engagement, though religiously colored. Everyone is looking for their own meaning and purpose of life, their own way out of the problem. Given that this is related to WTJWorg, then this kind of action through letters can only be seen as a way of acting of a religious organization and its members who stopped going from house to house and found a substitute way of preaching.

Thank you. Every man has his nights and days.

Verse is great, but WTJWorg context makes it less great.

Good explanation, for sure. But please, don't forget that we are dealing with a religious system in which rank and file need to "know" who teachers and representatives are. That is, to express ourselves in WTJWorg jargon, who is the "channel" through which "all truth and knowledge" comes. ". In this "channel" members should have confidence, trust (statements from GB+Helpers members on JWTV and in publications). Also this channel is “the only one authorized by God and Jesus”, as JW's believe, to give lessons, interpretations and direction. In this and such context we have to deal with your fine observation and explanation.

To seek "freedom" from courts for oneself and one's own interests also means to recognize such the same freedom for those with whom one ideologically disagrees. We know what the content of JW’s beliefs is about other ideologies. Different and opposite ideologies will have no "freedom" in the "New World", but will be "deleted". There are principles in everything. You made erroneous conclusion. Yes, the Organization can seek to evade obligations with the help of semantics. Also the Organization can semantically justify what it previously refused to do. It’s a successful way that you use too.

.. strong words. Opposers argue is garbage? People's motive are garbage? Suggests that people with such emotions are garbage? JWTV replica?

I agree with the explanation you gave, supported by life situations and the possible reasons why this is happening. So, I see this: People, members, seek guidance and help from those they think are “closer to God,” that they are “more spiritual,” that they “know more,” etc. We need to ask ourselves how this situation comes about. Is it because of the existence of a "hierarchy", the doctrine that there are "classes" within the assembly. FDS class and non-FDS class. The clergy class and the lay class. As much as WTJWorg declaratively denies the existence of such differences, it still exists in JW assemblies. Clergy "exist" to give support and answer to members of laity. That is how is in all religion, so why we would expect to be different in JW church? On the other hand, those who give "answers" to layman's questions have created a climate in which it is "normal" for laymen to ask, and "normal" the clergy know the answers to everything. And clergy wants to know the answers to everything even when they don't really have an answer, even if they don't need to know the answer, nor if do they need to give an answer for what doesn't concern them. Also, Bible don't speak about things that Watchtower's "our readers ask", study editions or BOE articles answering. Private opinions made by "spiritual men" have to stay private opinions ....not teachings and doctrines and instructions.

Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it? Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.

First Christians suffered and died for principles and died with thoughts how it is not justified what Caesar doing. WTJWorg are not willing to "suffer and die" for same reasons, because "cost of operating" depend on money not on God blessings.

WTJWorg still have their lawyers. Perhaps they will give suggestion to GB; "We can sue Australia for this" :)))