Srecko Sostar
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16 minutes ago, Witness said:
The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err indoctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” Wt 17/2 p. 26,27
1 hour ago, Witness said:He continues:
“Jehovah will use his **organization** to **LEAD US** through the great tribulation. THERE IS JUST NO OTHER WAY TO SUCCEED”
Imperfect spiritual food + err instructions from GB (leadership) aka organization = success in great tribulation .... :))
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Someone is blaspheming God’s name on TV? Has WTJWorg Australasia contributed to the embarrassment?
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5 minutes ago, Witness said:
Just recently on a jw video, Gajus Glockentin, a GB helper, said:
“LIES CREATES DOUBTS AND UNDERMINES OUR COMPLETE TRUST IN THE GOVERNING BODY. THIS MAKES US VULNERABLE”
5 minutes ago, Witness said:He continues:
“Jehovah will use his **organization** to **LEAD US** through the great tribulation. THERE IS JUST NO OTHER WAY TO SUCCEED”
It must be that WTJWorg leaders are in great pain for some time. This and some statements before which calls members to full trust in GB is desperate act. Manifestly, members leave "The Club".
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I've heard "your OCD" about this same thing (followers) a few times already. :))
Please, let me ask you, does giving a like and an up-vote to someone’s comment turn that someone into a follower?
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On 7/5/2020 at 7:12 AM, Arauna said:
Will you be one of those who help to put us in prison and feel vindicated when we are put in prison?
I don't know why some of JW's and non JW's on this Forum going ad hominem when are not glad to hear comments, opinions and arguing or critical thoughts of ex-JW ?! :))
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On 6/30/2020 at 7:03 AM, Arauna said:
Secular authorities look after physical matters which can be proved in court. They do not care about spiritual wellbeing.
They do not care about spiritual wellbeing.
On 6/30/2020 at 6:23 AM, Arauna said:THE GOVERNMENT has the resources to interview children by qualified child psychologists and have the resources to get a court conviction with input from these government officials
THE GOVERNMENT has ... qualified child psychologists
Is this some sort of contradiction ?
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On 6/26/2020 at 5:31 AM, JW Insider said:
So, it was serendipitous that someone had said that preparing for Covid in their country made no sense to them until it spiked just a few weeks later. Then they understood that the GB direction saved lives.
Covid 19 is an interesting phenomenon. Even more interesting is how science and authorities reacted at the start of the pandemic, and how they are doing it today or how they will do it tomorrow. The instructions are similar but still different in scope and application from country to country.
I am not sure in what way GB gives instructions regarding Covid, because all sources about Covid comes from science, medical experts and secular authorities. GB "instructions" are based on secular sources NOT on guidance from HS. How Covid 19 worldwide instructions can be interpreted within, in conection with the two religious doctrines uttered by GB.
The first is: Watchtower 13 11/15 p. 20 par. 17 Seven Shepherds, Eight Dukes—What They Mean for Us Today ***
At that time, the direction that you receive from Jehovah’s organization may seem strange or unusual. But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not.The second is: Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27 "Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?"
I don't know exactly what instructions JW's received and receive today about Covid, but how is possible to connect this pandemic episode (not first not last in history) with "spiritual food" and "life saving instructions" from GB when, normally, all about Christian life or JW life is about to stay faithful to JHVH and Jesus in "universal issue".
To stay health despite pandemic or to be ill because of pandemic, is not "universal issue". And by that, "obedience" (or disobedience) to GB instructions about Covid can't be part of this "universal issue" as was explained in many WT publications.
THE universal sovereignty of the Creator of heaven and earth is the foremost issue before men and angels. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1990488
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3 hours ago, Arauna said:
I can see you have not moved around much. In the modern world one cannot move over borders without the right paperwork. People from the middle east and Africa in the past few years received migration status due to the German Chancellors invitation - but even they are now supporting Greece to keep the borders locked. My husband is an expert of immigrations laws since we have moved around quite a bit..... but options are running out.
Well, do you want to send me message how Jesus words aka teachings are not useful in 21st century? What else is not useful to us today from lessons that Great Teacher had teach his disciple? :))
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18 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
Normal meetings and methods of ministry are suspended, and it is almost as though ones are retreating to interior rooms until the denunciation passes
Funny, but in many countries WTJWorg made self suspension, decision to stop own meetings and preaching service. Is that also "devil attack" with little help of Corona virus or perhaps "inside work" of "evil servant class"??
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18 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
They find satisfaction in knowing that their resolute stand answers the taunts of the Wicked One before the entire world.
That is nice to hear if you are JW member. On other side, how resolute stand of WT Australasia to not join Redress, answer CSA problem of shame in your organization before the entire world?
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18 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
So Dennis is not unprepared. He is bummed, no doubt—how could anyone not be? but probably not unprepared. He knows who he is battling, and it is not men.
It is not men who he is battling? His battle is against "secular authorities". That is clear. And if this "secular authorities" defending own sort of Christianity why that would be of surprised? WT and JW elders defend their sort of Christianity in congregation.
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18 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
The judge of the case suggested that Jehovah’s Witnesses (there are 175,000 of them!) go to a country where their faith is “more needed.” I thought of how the prophet Amos was told exactly that by rebellious servants of the king:
“Off with you, seer, flee to the land of Judah and there earn your bread by prophesying! But never again prophesy in Bethel for it is the king’s sanctuary and a royal temple.” It is exactly how an anti-God world responds to hearing his words.
Jesus said in Matthew 10:23: "When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another."
WTJWorg say:" Go to prison."
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22 minutes ago, Arauna said:
Of course - if you were in control then this would not have happened.
No one can control crimes in a way not to happen. Criminals are always a step forward, ahead. What some of us saying here is how WTJWorg elders refused to give to police and courts things that they can handle much better than elders. Because elders are not equipped to deal this and WTJWorg is not equipped to train elders for such task. And God gave "secular authorities" in charge for this, not elders, because they have "sword" and are entitled to punishing crime.
WTJWorg and elders+members using "shun" for individuals as equivalent for "sword".
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12 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
for it gave them opportunity to give answer to the Devil before the world.
I am not sure is this or similar issues about "giving answer to devil". Because devil know all answers already.
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2 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
But such will never be known for sure because practically nobody other than JWs made note of abuse cases within the membership; Witnesses did so in the spirit of Romans 2:22– to ensure that they ‘practice what you preach.’ In doing so, they produce a ‘paper trail,’ the 1000 ARC cases that nobody else produces because everybody else was content to not look.
Their vigilance is readily used against them. It is the classic example of the cynical phrase, ‘No good deed goes unpunished.’ Had they stuck their heads in the sand, as was the pattern elsewhere, and cried like Sergeant Shultz: “I know nothing!!” they would have fared better.
Apologize for my harsh words, but i don't understated is this comment produced by your motives (emotions) only or by your mental, mind conclusion about same information we all have possibility to read.
How can you say, or better to say, how you can prove, supposed fact, how only JW "made note of abuse cases within membership" ? Many institutions collects documentation about own daily work. And many have to stay for shorter or longer time and some of them have to stay forever, according to archival regulations.
Did Australasia WT showed vigilance? Why they decide to produce papers to ARC, and their friends in NY WT doing opposite. WT in US refused to produce documents about CSA inside JW church to "secular authorities". What they are? Vigilant too?
Documents can be used ONLY against those who committed crime. Perpetrators or individuals, or organized group of individuals or perhaps top management of institutions who hiding facts, are those who committed crime.
Documents about pedophile cases are not against rank and file JW members who living in "spiritual paradise" of ignorance about this bad things.
You are writer of books, you reading a lot, so you know this.
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7 hours ago, Arauna said:
Can you not see that Satan is getting ready to attack all religions on earth?
According to WTJWorg interpretations of Bible, event you mentioned is future event an fulfillment, hypothesis, of Bible prophecy. It is interestingly that satan who allegedly created "all religions on earth" want to destroy own kingdom ?? I don't understand this logic. I would understand that he want to destroy JW religion because, hypothesis, JW religion is his enemy, but why would he destroy own lies??
7 hours ago, Arauna said:I think it is right that the Witnesses prefer to react to a Court of Law decision and pay compensation…… not any other kangaroo court in operation.... there will not be justice and it is unbiblical.
No. That mean you have to pay own lawyers and fight against WTJWorg Australasia in individual court case. And WT Lawyers have more money than individual victims.
ARC is not "kangaroo court".
ARC established, according to WT Branch Office cca 5000 documents - 1006 perpetrators in WT archive documentation and 1800 victims.
I wonder what sort of "court" is "kangaroo court"?
JW Judicial Committees from 1950 to 2015 or ARC in 2015 ??
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Senator Ruston said it was not up to Jehovah's Witnesses or other organisations to decide whether their models suited the scheme or not.
"It's not up to you to make those decisions," she said.
"Let the independent scheme assess the validity of the arguments you're putting forward because they may well be correct but it's not for them to decide.
"We have applications and we have a responsibility to process them."
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Jehovah’s Witnesses has argued it does not have the “institutional settings” necessary to be a part of the redress scheme.
Spokesperson Tom Pecipajkovski told the ABC it would respond directly to individual claims.
“Jehovah’s Witnesses understand that, to date, there have been less than 10 applicants to the redress scheme who have referred to the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses,” Pecipajkovski said.
“Jehovah’s Witnesses have responded and will continue to respond directly to individual claims for redress in a caring, fair, and principled manner, taking into consideration the unique circumstances of each claim.”
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Prime Minister Scott Morrison has threatened the charity status and government funding of organisations that refuse to sign up to the child sexual abuse redress scheme by the Tuesday deadline.
Under the scheme, survivors can access up to $150,000 in compensation payments and an apology from the organisation involved.
The Jehovah's Witness have publicly resisted the scheme, insisting they do not have the institutional setup the scheme is designed to address.
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The federal government on Wednesday outed the Australian Air League, Boys’ Brigade NSW, Fairbridge Restored Limited, Lakes Entrance Pony Club, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Kenja Communications.
But late on Wednesday the Australian Air League signed and submitted the letter of intent to join the scheme.
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2 hours ago, Witness said:
No Arauna, the rebels are the eight men, whom you cannot see as the primary wolves squelching the light of TRUTH each anointed one is to share. Do you really believe the true wolves would write a book against the GB, and publish it for everyone to read? No, the authentic wolves would appear as sheep among the flock, and gain the trust of all in the herd.
Powerful !
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8 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:
the GB will be removed by God through Christ, or they will stand down when God's time is right for it to happen.
.....or they will be removed by human hands aka new policy, new people in management structure, "new light" about GB and so on.
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8 minutes ago, Arauna said:
Questioning their motives is not being rebellious.
This is something what you need to reevaluate again. Or to allow to other people doing the same.
Judging is about dealing with motives of person. Because there, in motives, stands almost all answers why people doing or not doing something. Our deeds or "fruits" from our tree are visible but motives are not so clearly visible or understandable to observer. I am observer of GB deeds, or your's or my own deeds. Deeds are visible with literal eys. Motives are deeper and not so obvious at first look.
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As you may already hear or read about Covid 19 in Croatia, Croatia is, according to news, among few countries that had best results in protection population from pandemic in "first wave". In cca 4 months (from last period of February to July 7) here is 3272 infected, 2141 cured and 113 deaths.
The ruling parliamentary party, which won elections again on Sunday, boasts that the situation is good with regard to this contagion because they have managed well in times of crisis and made the right decisions.
So, which, what God was with HDZ (party in power)? Did HDZ received JHVH help and does this is proof how JHVH helped this party to won elections again and to be His Servant ("secular authority") in Croatia? :))