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    Tom, what is with you? How you can compare JW volunteer restoration work in private building, in building that is in possession of Company .... with volunteer work in helping people when houses burning or helping sick people in hospital??
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    Please Tom. I made normal comment. And ask anyone what would cost be for restoration. Volunteering is no illegal. Spending donation money for Religious Vanity is morally and ethically bad example. Perhaps we all like to see beautiful buildings. But, is it buy, restore and sell something, what have to be interest and occupation for Religious, Charity Organization of JW? 2000+ members and unknown amount of $ versus 2000+ and same amount of money for preaching or helping people in need. What of this two IS CHARITY WORK???
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    He told illustrations about selling all you have to buy beautiful "pearl" and not Theater. :))) “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it” Matthew 13
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    But in 1983, the neglected theater was purchased for $1.8 million by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society from Delaware Corporation...........In 1988, the theater, which is on the NJ Registry of Historic Places, underwent an initial renovation phase, but the latest, completed in a nine-month period from 2012-2013, has restored even more value and splendor to the space.....“We are largely self-financed,” said Robert Warren, media consultant for the World Headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses, noting that the project was funded by individual donations from Witnesses across the world. “Whoever wants to build a tower must first count the cost,” he cited biblically, attributing the successful funding to strategic planning. “Rather than start and escalate, we evaluate first.”.....Over two thousand Witness volunteers from across the United States worked together on the large scale project, with work completed through volunteers only with the exception of contractors for only high-risk safety needs.......“We know it is a privilege and we consider it an honor to be here,” Simonsson added.....“We automatically assign a sacredness to the building because of our worship,” said Warren, of Witness Assembly Halls. “Having this space adds to the grandeur of why we are here.”..... 1,8 mill $ for buying. Perhaps value of volunteer working hours and materials is also enormous. Any suggestion?
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    I believe how secular system for imprisonment of wrongdoers, and trial process working very similar. Court if found guilty take in consideration many details, also is wrongdoer repentant or not, but in many cases separates wrongdoers from society by putting them to jail or a prison. With limited visits of course - but no shunning policy :))) It seems how they were "inspired" by Bible when made such program.
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    Today's "apostles" were not trained by Jesus. Not in literal way and not in some other way. JW leaders claiming how they not receiving "inspirational training" from Jesus. Reading Bible and thinking/mediate about text and prayers are only "training" they have. Imagine this: If real apostles in 1st century failed in many things after/despite training by Jesus, how much more errors can be expected from people who today claiming how they are (only) "guided by holy spirit"? Saul of Tarsus was highly educated person. Today GB tells (teach) JW members how God and Jesus not need "higher education". Can we assume how Saul was well trained and excellent because of THIS background? And how Jesus had easier task to learned him and not need 3,5 years, because he got more effective mind as highly educated person? Do you suggest how 11 apostles had less desire to serve and learn? It is worrying to hear. In fact, enormously worrying!
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    In individual perspective, this life we have, in this moment, is all we have. In case of people who believe in continuation of life in the moment of death, prospect is also life but under several outcomes, that is: paradise, hell and purgatory. In case of people who believe in future resurrection, as in case of JW members, outcomes have also few variations: to survive, or, and, to be resurrected and if you be enough good to continue with life until you don't do something what deserve death punishment. Next is, not to be resurrected and in such case, this life today is definitely all you have. Perhaps WT Lawyers forget about congregational rule or they never heard about it: "leave it to God" :))
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    It is possible to take this stand. But that has consequences too. Good? Or bad? If rain coming through roof of the house, will leaving thing to something or someone in the future bring to better or worst condition. God leave earthly things to be earthly human job. With good and bad outcomes. Bible said something like; When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong. This mantra, platitudes - "live it to god", is not proper answer for many things we faced. For some things in life more time is needed, but not in a sense that JW people using this internal proverb with hope how something will be resolved without doing nothing or without interest and efforts for something. Victim need help in a way and quality and quantity that he/she as individual can manage and receive, in time and with time set by these specific individual.
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    In Croatia, Bethel workers have also pension and health insurance benefits. Obviously also paid from contributions.
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    I have great respect for you, seriously. And it will stay that way. But need to go in little relaxed tone, atmosphere and say: This examples are possible, of course. But where, when and to who :))) Perhaps angels have more experience and will manage situations in proper way :))
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    Requires a master's degree. Few elders in JW church have it.
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    :)))) I am slow in writing and more slower in English writing. My "weapon" and "tactic" is to be short and concise how much is possible. :))) Anna, Arauna, TTH bombing me with responds. And i am alone, sole :))) Your comment helps to redirect their thinking. Now you will be "target". :))
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    When in preaching service people ask you: "Do you have clergy"? You immediately respond with, "We DON'T have clergy, we have Elders. @TrueTomHarley Everybody knows it. It’s nothing more than common sense. Regardless of what elders are called, they come closest to fitting the role lawmakers have in mind for ‘clergy.’ If every JW knows this why they in preaching service respond with: "NO, we have Elders"????
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    Perhaps some day WT Society will stop using nomenclature as, GB member, Helper, CO, Elder, MS, Pioneer etc. because one word covers all , Brother (and Sister too :))))) Article you used is going further, speaking about distinction. We are not starting with this subject but with terminology. I suggest we stop on terminology and not talking about inside classes and distinction. Ok? Israel Priesthood also supported bad things. Why i am not surprised how same happened to Christen-dom.
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    Aspects of meaning or semantics. JW people, or better to say, JW leaders, with time, from past, gave specific meaning to word "clergy". And thus created new culture inside own church. Inside JW circle word "clergy" has bad connotation. Because, as word "Christendom" too, it is always about, those other people, those other churches, those other religions. Merriam Webster explain word clergy: a group ordained to perform pastoral or sacerdotal functions in a Christian church
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    I have nothing against advices or instructions that can be helpful. You speaking about preparations, experience that GB collected from past till now. You mentioned central monitoring location. What is Warwick, sort of Pentagon? Drones, satelites, spies, central intelligence "guided by spirit"? How can human experience, GB experience be helpful for Armageddon? For some local wars, disasters and similar turbulence they can have some experience and good preparation. But JW people expecting Armageddon, and all WT efforts are to prepare JW people for Armageddon. Kingdom will destroy all that opposes God. This is message in publication? Or not any more?
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    Some religious people love their clergy. Some not so much. Some non-religious people have same feelings. JW people not loving any clergy but only own clergy. Problem will be solved if WT publication start to teaching own members about "connotations".... wrong one and positive one. :)))
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    Huh Tom! Wife went to evening cong. meeting now. How about to asking her about this what all JW's know when she comes back? :))) Oh ,no i can't expect she would tell me anything, because she are not allowed to talk with me about congregational, spiritual things. Ohh, what a pity!!
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    I can agree. But GB wouldn't. :)) They wrote in WT study edition how JW members need to be ready to listen/obey any instructions from GB to elders channels, because that will save their lives. Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) The most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of “the Assyrian” is that of strengthening our faith in God and helping our brothers to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian” attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that Jehovah will deliver us. (3) At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith. -https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pl/r1/lp-e?q=w13 11%2F15 20
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    Thanks for respond. What you described is concised also in wording you offer: "is the same as most businesses on Earth". Some examples from Bible give us another way how some individuals going to gain responsible positions. Young David was walking with sheeps and other domestic animals. Living simple life with no preparation for ruling over nation Israel as a King. But his youth had some need to prove himself and to his brothers and father, as mature and strong and brave. In one moment Samuel anointed David to be KIng. Just in a second. Nothing about going from bottom and then work his way up. :))))) Saul of Tarsus have some period about learning, but he didn't learned how to be apostle and member of Jerusalem GB. If GB in Jerusalem existed at all??!! He was chosen by Jesus as 11 before him. :))) Please, who had chosen GB in 1971? God? Jesus? Someone? Dear Anna. Majority of JW members don't know nothing about such "designation" for their congregational elders. In fact i believe how such knowledge will stumble many of your people. Few of you who participate here and read Court documents knowing these things. Your bro/sis living in blessed ignorance about this. It would be proper to say how few of you, few JW people here, "accepting" such terminology, but only for pro et contra conversations we making here. :)) Yours inner feelings for justice and ethic and truth NOT want, NOT wish, CAN'T accept this mixing of "holy things" and "secular (false religion) things" about leveling/equalization JW elders with Catholic clergy. But you are forced to do this because of loyalty to WTJWorg and "argumentation".
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    Out of topic, but just for fun. Revelation is very symbolic book. 1000 years can be also 24 human hours and can be millions of human years too. This two quote contradict itself. Question is: Why WT Lawyers not waiting for God's Justice ... in the future? From the Christian congregation's point of view, the worldly definition of clergy does apply to the elders. This is what @Anna said, not me. :))
  22. Srecko Sostar
    No problem, don't worry, I understand you. We just comment Montana situation :))
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    From a worldly point of view the elders are clergy. From the Christian congregation's point of view, the worldly definition of clergy does apply to the elders. Than, result is the same: JW elders are clergy, priesthood. However, outside of a worldly situation (meaning a worldly situation like a court setting) a member of the Christian congregation will not view the elders as clergy, because they are not applying the worldly point of view. Is it doing bad to children (or CSA)?: -worldly situation or -situation inside JW congregation or -worldly situation inside JW situation who operate inside worldly system situation? Where, to Whom Courts belong? To worldly situation only? To satan, because he is god of this World? Courts belongs in Bible situation. They are God's Servants, and not devil's Servants (your Bible said so, your interpretation of Romans said so too). Bible situation says how all people (Christian congregants too) belong to Secular Authorities who making decisions who is who. In Montana situation JW elders prayed, asked Court to give them distinctive title - clergy, priesthood. Obviously they asked Court to give them something that God "failed" to give it to them. :)))
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    Me too doing this. For example, puting new colors on old walls. Driving 20 years old car, but not thinking twice when car mechanic man say, this or that must be changed, replaced. IT's called updating ! :))) And no one blame me (except myself) for not having more brain on question: how to build new passive house with green roof and how to buy electric car, even second hand ?! How about some investments? :))) through Henrietta Riley Trust?
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    How came to that, that they just found themselves to be in this opportunity? This formulation say how they had no "qualifications", but JUST had been GIVING opportunity to direct. Who gave them (GB) this opportunity from 1971 on ? WT Society Administration? Or God? Or mutual effort of human and spirit (similar to what was described in Acts, ..."we and holy spirit decided to ....") ?
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