Srecko Sostar

Then why do you want me to worry about my English and your ability to understand my bad grammar?  

Apologize for my poor English  
From reaction made by other people here i see that they understand what was said.
More serious consequences arise when people who write texts for WTJWorg “distorting, twisting, contorting, screwing up” the minds of their readers .... PS ....and listeners.

Apologize for my poor English  
From reaction made by other people here i see that they understand what was said.
More serious consequences arise when people who write texts for WTJWorg “distorting, twisting, contorting, screwing up” the minds of their readers .... PS ....and listeners.

Apologize for my poor English  
From reaction made by other people here i see that they understand what was said.
More serious consequences arise when people who write texts for WTJWorg “distorting, twisting, contorting, screwing up” the minds of their readers .... PS ....and listeners.

I think there is a scripture that says something like "You are not far from the kingdom of God" 
But the question must be then, Do you think a person has to be a Baptised JW to be saved at Armageddon ? 

“Now we ask you, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to him, 2 that you not be easily shaken from your composure, nor be troubled either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter alleged to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has arrived. 3 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.”  2 Thess 2:1-4
What is the first event that you see happening?  An announcement is made that the “day of the Lord as arrived”.  Who announces it?  Someone “alleged to be from us” – from an anointed one, or one who claims to be anointed… or, a “false apostle”. Matt 24:24,25; 2 Cor 11:13; Rev 2:2 
Who do you know in the world – either in politics or religion -  that has made an announcement that the “day of the Lord has arrived”?  The only leaders that I know who have made such a statement, are the leaders of your organization! 
@Kick_Faceinator had a great quote related to this from the Wt., which I can’t find, but these will do:
BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began. w88 10/15 pp. 15-20 By the time the Lord’s day began in 1914, Britain had built the largest empire in history and the United States had become the greatest industrial power on earth. w12 6/15 pp. 14-18  Thus, when the Lord’s day dawned in October 1914, there were still true Christians on earth. re chap. 6 pp. 27-32   
“The Lord’s day” began in 1914, according to whom?  According to your leaders who claim to be part of “Israel”, or those who claim that they are part of the Body of Christ.  This is the same thing as saying “the day of the Lord has arrived” – 2 Thess 2:3
Can you see this?  Can you see that this “day” doesn’t arrive until…
#1 – the rebellion occurs by the “man of lawlessness”
#2 – he sets himself up in the Temple of God. And where are the Temple “living stones found”?  The “man of lawlessness” must exalt himself over those who are “sons of God” – “gods” – the anointed! 2 Thess 2:4; John 10:34,35  How will this happen in the world of other religions and politics?
#3 –“the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of his mouth, and wipe out by the appearance of his coming” - the arrival of the day of the Lord.  (2 Thess 2:8)
Who has done this? Who has set himself up in the Temple of God?  No one other than THE ELDER BODY - THOSE MEN WHO CLAIM CLERGY PENITENT PRIVELEGE IN THE COURT SYSTEMS!
 Clergy:  “religious leaders, especially Christian PRIESTS, ministers, etc”
EVEN THOUGH ONLY THE ANOINTED ARE APPOINTED BY GOD AS PRIESTS, YOUR ELDERS HAVE ASSUMED THIS ROLE AND IT IS THE DISGUSTING THING STANDING WHERE IT DOESN’T BELONG!  (Dan 11:23, 31-33; Mark 13:14; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  THEY ARE NOT ASSIGNED BY GOD TO BE PRIESTS, OR TO REPRESENT THE ANOINTED!  (Ezek 28:2; Rev 11:1,2)
THIS ORGANIZATION HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE DAY OF THE LORD BEGAN IN 1914, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TO IGNORE, ‘NOT TO BE EASILY SHAKEN’, ACCORDING TO 2 THESS 2:2
THIS ORGANIZATION IS WHERE THE “MAN OF LAWLESSNESS” IS FOUND. GOD’S WORD SAYS THAT ANYONE WHO REPLACES HIS APPOINTED PRIESTS WILL BE DESTROYED.  (NUM 3:10)
2 THESS 2:1-4 PROVES THAT 1914 IS A LIE! 
STOP LYING TO YOURSELF!
 
Do you realize that your magazines apply Eph 4:7,8 to the elder body?  Yes, they do!     Do you believe the elders received these gifts?  Not according to Eph 4:4,11,12.  Your elders not only act as priests but as the anointed Body of Christ.  They may as well call themselves anointed!
"He will speak words against the Most High and oppress the holy ones of the Most High. He will intend to change times and laws, and the holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time.[e] 26 But the court will convene, and his dominion will be taken away, to be completely destroyed forever. 27 The kingdom, dominion, and greatness of the kingdoms under all of heaven will be given to the people, the holy ones of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey him.’"  Dan 7:25-27
 
 
 

I can name several defects that I have and I continually ask for forgiveness.  One thing I don’t do, is teach millions of people that they must obey me, no matter what I say.  I don’t put myself before Jesus Christ. I don’t lead millions of people into idolatry, a grave sin that I committed for over 30 years and which I have asked God to forgive me; for listening to spiritual harlots who have broken their covenant with Jesus, and becoming one myself by consuming their lies.   I don’t tell people that Armageddon will be here in a certain year, and when it doesn’t occur, blame my listeners for jumping to conclusions.
I don’t exalt earthly treasures above spiritual “treasures”/knowledge of God’s Word.  Can your leaders live without their organization, their compound, their hopes and dreams to be filled on this earth…in Satan’s domain?
Their sins are not the slight ones. They have committed the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit, by damning the anointed in Christ, who speak against their lies. 

Ok. I am the army for (by) myself and every other individual is army for itself (himself). That is battle between lie and truth inside us. This sort of war we have to fight. Alone (by myself)..... always alone (by myself).

Every written change of previous interpretation in the WTJWorg literature is proof that what I have commented on is not an echo of empty words. Your own publications produce "sound", and make it to sound in both ways. To looks like have "scriptural support" and to looks like have "non-scriptural support".

Xero reminds me, with this statement of his, of two elders who told me personally after I asked them about a similar thing, that they, from the podium, say only what the literature says even though they are not personally convinced that it is true. And another thing, they (two elders) claim that they do not mention controversial things or explain them when preaching.
Do such elders really have face and say they represent, stand for the truth? 

Every written change of previous interpretation in the WTJWorg literature is proof that what I have commented on is not an echo of empty words. Your own publications produce "sound", and make it to sound in both ways. To looks like have "scriptural support" and to looks like have "non-scriptural support".

Xero reminds me, with this statement of his, of two elders who told me personally after I asked them about a similar thing, that they, from the podium, say only what the literature says even though they are not personally convinced that it is true. And another thing, they (two elders) claim that they do not mention controversial things or explain them when preaching.
Do such elders really have face and say they represent, stand for the truth? 

If I may remark, it would then mean that GB should stop calling ex-JW with expressions as; ex-JW are "apostates, enemies, poison" and the like. 
Also, JW members' "bible-trained consciences" would disregard the GB directive on how to treat former members.
What you mention is commendable. Generally speaking. Generally understood. Generally applicable. But apart from you a few who talk to us here and a few who do it with us personally where we live, it is an rare  exception to WTJWorg policy.

Ok. I am the army for (by) myself and every other individual is army for itself (himself). That is battle between lie and truth inside us. This sort of war we have to fight. Alone (by myself)..... always alone (by myself).

This is in range of "scientific" and "inspired" explanation about ( Hebraism) bible text that is written in (not) "understandably" way for simple minds readers (that is - "Blessed are the poor in spirit"). If so, how to understand, lets say, simple command "do not murder, lie, steal...,". Do we need extra interpretations too? 
Of course we need. Because GB have many to say about how to practice such "simple" commands.  Especially in secular court cases where WTJWorg lawyers reinterpreting meaning of words "lie and truth" giving them new application.  

Then we have problem with (understanding) this Bible text where is explicitly clear who caused baby to die, among other things, where Nathan said God said it. 
Then Nathan said to David: “You are the man! This is what Jehovah the God of Israel says: ‘I myself anointed you as king over Israel,+ and I rescued you from the hand of Saul.+ 8  I was willing to give you your master’s house+ and put your master’s wives+ in your arms, and I gave you the house of Israel and of Judah.+ And as if that were not enough, I was willing to do much more for you.+ 9  Why did you despise the word of Jehovah by doing what is bad in his eyes? You struck down U·riʹah the Hitʹtite with the sword!+ Then you took his wife as your wife+ after you killed him by the sword of the Amʹmon·ites.+ 10  Now a sword will never depart from your own house,+ because you despised me by taking the wife of U·riʹah the Hitʹtite as your wife.’ 11  This is what Jehovah says: ‘Here I am bringing against you calamity from within your own house;+ and before your own eyes, I will take your wives and give them to another man,*+ and he will lie down with your wives in broad daylight.*+ 12  Although you acted in secret,+ I will do this in front of all Israel and in broad daylight.’”*13  David then said to Nathan: “I have sinned against Jehovah.”+ Nathan replied to David: “Jehovah, in turn, forgives your sin.*+ You will not die.+ 14  Nevertheless, because you have treated Jehovah with utter disrespect in this matter, the son just born to you will certainly die.”15  Then Nathan went to his own house.And Jehovah struck the child whom U·riʹah’s wife had borne to David, and he became sick. 16  David pleaded with the true God in behalf of the boy. David went on a strict fast and would go in and spend the night lying on the ground.+ 17  So the elders of his house stood over him and tried to raise him up from the ground, but he refused and would not eat with them. 18  On the seventh day the child died, but David’s servants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead. - nwt translation

Ups, God controls and directs speculations ... inside WTJWorg :))

Every written change of previous interpretation in the WTJWorg literature is proof that what I have commented on is not an echo of empty words. Your own publications produce "sound", and make it to sound in both ways. To looks like have "scriptural support" and to looks like have "non-scriptural support".

Xero reminds me, with this statement of his, of two elders who told me personally after I asked them about a similar thing, that they, from the podium, say only what the literature says even though they are not personally convinced that it is true. And another thing, they (two elders) claim that they do not mention controversial things or explain them when preaching.
Do such elders really have face and say they represent, stand for the truth? 

https://news.sky.com/story/there-was-no-reprimand-nothing-changed-survivors-criticise-jehovahs-witness-elders-for-failing-to-act-over-child-sexual-abuse-claims-12396672
This is not just going to go away. It has to be dealt with. Hopefully the GB will be brought to account.
BUT I keep coming back with the question 'What has happened to the 25 year CSA / Pedophile database in the USA ?
And then what happened to the CSA situation in Canada ? 
Here in England it seems a lot of news from the USA is blocked, 'for legal reasons'. 
 
 

The real reason this injustice occurs? To protect a facade... the Image of the Organization, as a spotless spiritual paradise (Jer.6:13-14; Eze.13:10; 22:27; 34:2-4; Acts 20:29) (Rev.13:14-15,12,8; Isa.48:1-2; Jer.7:4; Matt.24:23).
The innocent who do not honor that false Image of divinity, are slandered and expelled (Prov.17:15; Ex.23:6-7; Ps.12:5; Matt.7:15; 12:7; Jer.23:2; 22:3; Rev.11:7; 17:6; Zech.11:15-17) (Eze.45:9; Isa.59:3-9,14-15; 32:7; Amos 5:12). (Ps.94:21; Rev.20:9; Micah 7:3; 3:10-11; 1Thess.5:3)
"My Master is Delaying/Two Witness Policy
 
 
 
 

What does a "witness" for God witness about? Other things to fill out their day instead of their testimony for truth?  
 By the way, "witness" in Greek means "martyr".  We don't know how many anointed and others were "killed" by men (who act as "kings") in judicial committees for the last several decades for their "witness" to truth in God's word.  Are those df'd, the apostates, or were they exposing their apostate "governors"?  
Why did they become martyrs like the apostles with the early anointed and believers in Christ?  
They filled their day as much as possible, with their testimony of truth.  Rev 11:3,7; 13:5-7,15; 12:11
“You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. ("congregations")  On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them.  And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.  Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit."  Mark 13:9-11
"They will put you out of the synagogue ("congregation"); in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God."  John 16:2
Do you see?  This is the direction of the end time preaching work - to "Israel", the anointed and those with them.  Matt 10: 23  To the "apostates" that have dominion over the anointed and all, who remain captive to empty philosophy.  (Col 2:8)
"Of course, we are living in the world, but we do not wage war in a world-like way. For the weapons of our warfare are not those of the world. Instead, they have the power of God to demolish fortresses. We tear down arguments  and every proud obstacle that is raised against the knowledge of God, taking every thought captive in order to obey the Messiah."  1 Cor 10:3-5
What is the "fortress" of protection for JWs?
And just as a child seeks his parents’ protection when a storm rages, we seek protection in Jehovah’s organization when, like a thunderstorm, the problems of this world strike us. wt 11/4/15 pp 3-5
Sounds like idol worship, doesn't it.  Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4

Deal with the discipline of people who are not inspired, but act as if they are on par with the apostles?
No, never.  The point is to defend truth, not those who exalt themselves and their doctrine, over Truth in Jesus Christ.  We are to make a noise when we know that truth is not being upheld.  (Eph 5:11)
Are we to defend men or the Father and the Son?
"Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ."  Gal 1:10
We can't please God or Christ and please men who expect us to accept their false teachings.  
What is the point of Armageddon if not to exalt the Father and the Son in Truth, through our testimony?   Why does "Michael" stand up in the last days if not to defend the Father in Truth? (Acts 3:20,21; 2 Thess 1:6-10; Dan 12:1) 
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!"  Gal 1:6-9

I have to agree that this does make sense. Though I would think there are cases where people have a right to have an attitude if they've been incorrectly dealt with.  I must admit that the Elders, in more than one congregation, were 'on my back' about some things, but I was never D/fed. 
Please be balanced enough to accept that some of us leave because of the immorality within the JW Org. I make it clear that I left because of the CSA earthwide in the Org, and because of the dishonest way it was being dealt with.  I felt that the Org was not a safe place to invite families into. I have since found other reasons not to return, but i have not gone looking for an alternative 'Christian' way, nor have I turned my back on God or Christ. Please think again on those last few words of your sentence above. Who was that tolerated pedophile Elders and M/s in congregations of JWs ? 
This is now an important issue to me. I could not hand out Watchtower magazines or books from the GB / Org if I did not agree with the things written inside them. 
 
I'd love to see that in a Bible study. Telling a student to read a paragraph from the book, and then saying, 'well actually you don't have to believe that because it's only what the GB write. it might not be true'  

...seems pretty clear to me ....