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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusions?   
    The body and blood of Jesus were given a transferred meaning in bread and wine. But bread and wine, precisely because they directly represent the body and blood of a man, are exactly what they are - body and blood. So to eat bread and drink wine, in commemoration of Christ's death, is nothing else but to bite into the flesh and drink some blood. 
    Does it bother God that by some human activity man cannot be saved forever? No, he doesn't mind. Because, human life is erratic and often times we have to repeat the same or similar actions in order to live or survive some circumstances.
    Little correction please. 
     28  For the holy spirit+ and we ourselves have favored ... nwt 
    Since the apostles were imperfect and sinful people and prone to wrong assumptions, so says WTJWorg and GB, could it be that they said and wrote something that has errors? No matter what topic. Because, that is exactly how today's GB justifies itself for its theological acrobatics. GB says that even the first Christians had wrong assumptions and expectations and misinterpreted the teachings of Jesus.
    Under what circumstances did the apostles err? Then when were they “inspired” or when were they “guided” by the Holy Spirit?
    GB said they, today, are "guided", ... just "guided". 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusions?   
    Yeah …. The WTB&TS  got the Blood Issue  exactly right the first time, then as they were sued by families of those that died, they changed their stance to allow transfusion of separate blood fractions, so as not to hemorrhage money.  
     
    The GB has admitted in the February,  2017 Watchtower that they are neither infallible or inspired of God, as regards any matters Theocratic. 
     
    …… but they have the best Lawyers and Accountants money can buy!

     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Yes, lol. There is a kind of obsession in your mind because you often use terminology about "gnashing your teeth" and the like, in response to some other people’s comments, that is, as a reaction to those people.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Day is upon us...   
    This is so funny Rambo.. Losing KHs   They have just built Warwick and now they are going to build Ramapo. So they obviously don't think Armageddon is very close. 
    Worship with spirit and truth ???  You are having a laugh. The GB only worship themselves and their multi-organisations which have $$$$ and real estate.. It's all for show. 
    Rambo you write so well and sound so serious, but you tell lies just like your Leaders. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Jehovah's Day is upon us...   
    20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
    21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.
    This organization is already guilty of being false prophets, dude, your continuing the tradition of prophecying.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Today is a spiritual repeat of apostasy in Jesus' day.  The greatest threat to the Jewish leaders, was those in Christ who left to follow him - who had once been  "among them", among the Jewish system.   The GB mimic the leadership of the Pharisees, expecting full devotion, detailed service, and obedience above and beyond the Father and the Son.  If this wasn't true, there would be no disfellowshipping for rejecting THEM and THEIR doctrine.  
    And then again, "among" those who were anointed, false teachers arose.  Jesus tells us, they could very likely deceive the "elect", the saints.  (Matt 24:24; Acts 20:29)  
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
    Don't you take the message of your leaders to others?  Don't you bring this message?  I did not come to JWs, they came to me.  Upon hearing the message, my ears perked up to a few "grains" of truth, as Splane mentioned is the tool of apostates...and then the time came...
    "when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables."  2 Tim 4:3,4
    Fables, i.e. "beliefs clarified" (and how many teachings and false dates were not included in the list?)
    HUMAN TEACHINGS, EMPTY DECEPTION.  Col 2:8
    What characteristics designate a false teacher, Tom?  Check your beliefs clarified list and apply its evidence to prove your leadership cannot speak truth. And yet, JWs cling to their every word.  (1 Tim 4:1)  If that list was provided to the householder, (an insert flyer in a magazine perhaps?), I wonder how many people would become JWs.  The householder would say,  "Oh, by the way we have compiled our list of empty deception, and felt the need for you to look it over."
    Do you see?  What are you defending?  What spiritual substance is there from your organization, that lasts?  (John 15:16)  Just a few grains of truth?  Is that really all that Jesus promised us?  (John 7:38; 4:13,14; Rev 22:17)
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Yes, lol. There is a kind of obsession in your mind because you often use terminology about "gnashing your teeth" and the like, in response to some other people’s comments, that is, as a reaction to those people.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    I don't know if he is a fake.  Most likely he was exuberant to hear A. Morris' talk about despicable apostates, and gladly watch  the burning match get snuffed out.  
    It's not too late for you to repent of your false prophesy.  Really, I wish you could just see how foolish you are by setting another date, that could very likely bring about your ruin. (Luke 12:40; Matt 24:42-44; Acts 1:6,7; Jer 23:16)
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    @admin @The Librarian  @JW Insider  This is a threat. it is most distasteful and unnecessary. When he says it to me I just laugh it off, but to others it could cause depression or worse. 
    It also proves that Rambo here is a fake.  If he were a true JW he would not even suggest these things. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    My remaining life time is shortened, too. Compared to the length of time I had 20, 30 or 40 years ago. I am 60 years old today. It is logical that, given the average life expectancy of a man, my time is reduced. So, it would be pointless to expect another 60 years of life. I can count on another 20,30 years of life, more or less. That would be the average life expectancy of today’s people in certain parts of the world.
    Has the time of the whole human race been shortened, reduced in the same way? There is no calculation, nor is there any experience to confirm this. Disasters exist, wars exist and they can shorten the lives of people and animals and plants. But even the Bible nowhere says that there is a deadline that determines how long the planet Earth will exist and the living world on it.
    So what kind of time reduction is about?
    People are constantly being born, so preaching should go on and on, constantly.
     
    The earth, the sea, the trees and the whole natural world have been under attack for some 150-200 years. Someone is hurting them. Who? Humanity. With its way of life of consumer society, industry, destruction of nature for profit.
    Your version suggests how, harm the earth or the sea or the trees, will began in 2033? Would that mean that so-called “climate change” hasn’t actually started and that people are worried for no reason?
    There is something wrong with your interpretation of the Bible.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    My remaining life time is shortened, too. Compared to the length of time I had 20, 30 or 40 years ago. I am 60 years old today. It is logical that, given the average life expectancy of a man, my time is reduced. So, it would be pointless to expect another 60 years of life. I can count on another 20,30 years of life, more or less. That would be the average life expectancy of today’s people in certain parts of the world.
    Has the time of the whole human race been shortened, reduced in the same way? There is no calculation, nor is there any experience to confirm this. Disasters exist, wars exist and they can shorten the lives of people and animals and plants. But even the Bible nowhere says that there is a deadline that determines how long the planet Earth will exist and the living world on it.
    So what kind of time reduction is about?
    People are constantly being born, so preaching should go on and on, constantly.
     
    The earth, the sea, the trees and the whole natural world have been under attack for some 150-200 years. Someone is hurting them. Who? Humanity. With its way of life of consumer society, industry, destruction of nature for profit.
    Your version suggests how, harm the earth or the sea or the trees, will began in 2033? Would that mean that so-called “climate change” hasn’t actually started and that people are worried for no reason?
    There is something wrong with your interpretation of the Bible.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Congratulations. Have a great day and many more. You are still young and hopefully have many years left to live.
    Rambo's problem is 1. he wants attention and 2. he loves to guess at dates. 
    I would suggest both are anti-Christian. Reminds me of the GB.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Please notice:
    “They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.”  Rev 9:4
    This scripture is speaking of the anointed as well, under attack by a great locust-scorpion army. (Rev 9:5,6) Yet, your leaders have taken it out of context by saying the anointed are this locust army. Who would they be persecuting?  In Rev 13:5-7, it is the Beast that persecutes the saints.  The Beast is an "organized" army that "stands in the holy place" - an abomination against the Temple of God, and that temple as you know, are the anointed ones.  (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3,7-11; 11:1,2; Rev 13:18)
     When the final faithful anointed remnant are sealed, “harm” comes to the “earth, sea, trees”. This is concerning the great tribulation to come upon God’s “saints” and those with them.  (Rev 24:9-13,22-25)
    Look to the one who deceives you, about the identity of the locust-scorpions.  You will then find where the "man of lawlessness" resides.  
    Joel 1:
    A nation has invaded my land,  (1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:20-22)
        a mighty army without number;
    it has the teeth of a lion, (Dan 7:7; Rev 13:2)
        the fangs of a lioness.
    7 It has laid waste my vines
        and ruined my fig trees.
    It has stripped off their bark
        and thrown it away,
        leaving their branches white.
    Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn;
        wail, you who minister before the altar.
    Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
        you who minister before my God;
    for the grain offerings and drink offerings
        are withheld from the house of your God.  (Dan 8:11,12; Rev 13:15-17,)
     
    Who are the Locusts?
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Jack Ryan in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    This could be said about anything.....
    And considering that time slows / stops in and on the event horizon of known black holes....
    it isn't universally true.
    Maybe the time left is "circular" and you just don't know it yet.
    Time is like slices of a loaf of bread... depending on the angle and the observers perspective.
    Time is relative.
    All the people who I remember using this phrase back in 1981 are now dead.
    I remember one sister watching Reagan in front of the UN and she practically declared the END HAD ARRIVED.....
    And here I am in 2021.... while she is sleeping in the grave.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Possibly Main Stream Christianity = Catholic / Protestant. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    It's not the same, of course, but there is one surprising group that related themselves in a curious way to the Bible Students/JWs in the 1930s. But they were also very highly divergent in most ways. It was the [mostly African-American] Nation of Islam ("Black Muslim") teachings of Elijah Muhammed. Muhammed recommended to his followers that they listen to Rutherford's radio broadcasts, and he sometimes paraphrased what was in Rutherford's books. Now and then you hear some overlap in his teachings and those of the Rutherford, with a twist:
    Elijah Muhammad believed that the white race was created by Yakub, a Black scientist, and that Allah had allowed this devilish race to hold power for 6,000 years. Their time was up in 1914, and the 20th century was to be the time for Black people to assert themselves. -- https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nation-of-Islam
    He even thought that the nation's [white] kings have had their day as of 1914, and that Allah would intervene in the mid-1970s. JSTOR has a few articles discussing the doctrinal similaritles of the Black Muslims, along with chronology similarities. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1384578

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    Actually it was very similar to the way Miller/Barbour/Russell calculated 1844/1874 and ultimately even 1914. The primary way of calculating 1914 was not the seven times of Leviticus 26 (which later became the 7 times of the Daniel 4 tree dream). That method was considered just a supportive but inferior method by Russell.
    One of the original "better and clearer" methods made use of that 538 date as seen in the William Miller chart that @Space Merchant showed above. We might be forgiven if we see 538 and 606 in the chart and assume that these are BCE dates such the first year of Cyrus (which was 538 BCE) after he captured Babylon. But it's not. It's 538 A.D., aka, 538 C.E. (And, for Miller, 606 A.D. was the rise of Mohammedism.) 538 A.D. is the date that the Ostrogothic Empire was supposedly overthrown, about 500 years AFTER the time of Jesus, NOT BEFORE. (For Barbour, it was 538 AD + Daniel's 1,260 days to start  the "time of the end" in 1798 AD, and 538 + Daniel's 1,335 days (years) = 1873 AD, which failed for Barbour, so he had already adjusted it to 1874 when he convinced Russell. This is also why Russell started the time of the end in 1799, not 1798. (Evidenced by Papal rule being rejected then in the French Revolution.) Ultimately it was 539 AD + 1,335 + 40 years  = 1914. Russell's inherited methods finally had to be dropped under Rutherford. We dropped the "Israel's doubles" method, and dropped the Leviticus 26 "seven times" method, finally leaving us with only the inferior Daniel 4 method which also referred to seven times.
    Newton, a brilliant man, but who also got involved in some of this nonsense, realized that people were just picking dates for the supposed beginning of Papal "political" rule, or the start of any particularly bad pope, in order to put a start date on a Babylonian Papal Antichrist and/or "Holy Roman Empire." They were picking dates just so that the end date (by adding 1260, for example) would land in their own generation. That 538/539 AD date for Miller/Barbour/Russell was considered to be useful for this kind of thing in the 1800's. But Newton said it should start in 756 AD or even 800 AD or perhaps some time in between: 756 +1260 = 2016; 772 + 1260 = 2032; 800 + 1260 = 2060.
    Wikipedia has it pretty close here, I think:
    Over the years, a large amount of media attention and public interest has circulated regarding largely unknown and unpublished documents, evidently written by Isaac Newton, that indicate he believed the world could end in 2060. While Newton also had many other possible dates (e.g. 2034),[39] he did not believe that the end of the world would take place specifically in 2060.[40]
    Like most Protestant theologians of his time, Newton believed that the Papal Office and not any one particular Pope was the fulfillment of the Biblical predictions about Antichrist, whose rule was predicted to last for 1,260 years. They applied the day-year principle (in which a day represents a year in prophecy) to certain key verses in the books of Daniel[41] and Revelation[42] (also known as the Apocalypse), and looked for significant dates in the Papacy's rise to power to begin this timeline. Newton's calculation ending in 2060 is based on the 1,260-year timeline commencing in 800 AD when Charlemagne became the first Holy Roman Emperor and reconfirmed the earlier (756 AD) Donation of Pepin to the Papacy.[35]
    2016 vs. 2060
    Between the time he wrote his 2060 prediction (about 1704) until his death in 1727 Newton conversed, both first hand and by correspondence, with other famous theologians of his time. Those contemporaries who knew him during the remaining 23 years of his life appear to be in agreement that Newton, and the "best interpreters" including Jonathan Edwards, Robert Fleming, Moses Lowman, Phillip Doddridge, and Bishop Thomas Newton, were eventually "pretty well agreed" that the 1,260-year timeline should be calculated from the year 756 AD.[43]
    F. A. Cox also confirmed that this was the view of Newton and others, including himself:
    Thomas Williams stated that this timeline had become the predominant view among the leading Protestant theologians of his time:
    In April of 756 AD, Pepin, King of France, accompanied by Pope Stephen II entered northern Italy, forcing the Lombard King Aistulf to lift his siege of Rome, and return to Pavia. Following Aistulf's capitulation, Pepin gave the newly conquered territories to the Papacy by means of the Donation of Pepin, thereby elevating the Pope from being a subject of the Byzantine Empire to head of state, with temporal power over the newly constituted Papal States.
    The end of the timeline is based on Daniel 8:25 which reads "he shall be broken without hand" and is understood to mean that the end of the Papacy will not be caused by any human action.[46] Volcanic activity is described as the means by which Rome will be overthrown.[47]
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...   
    You know,, that explanation seems a lot simpler than others I have heard …… But I seem to remember the scripture saying it’s a false prophet it will give you a specific date or year.
    I’ve also heard from possibly the smartest natural man who ever lived, Sir Isaac Newton reportedly calculated the end days to be in 2060, as early as possibly 2032, But I don’t remember how he calculated it.
    Sure,  Isaac  Newton’s natural intelligence was possibly greater than everybody we’ve ever met put together, but it makes sense that no man knows the year of the day or the hour otherwise we’d all be up with a shotgun waiting for the thief.
    The fact that you’ve actually made this prediction is prima facie evidence that you’re a false prophet.
    it’s a natural temptation, that few can resist. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Is Christ the Angel of God's Presence?   
    Doom and gloom once again, Billy the Kid.
    I would think the only ones that could grieve the Holy Spirit are those that have received the Holy Spirit. That is the Anointed ones. 
    Unless of course you have been sent to judge us Rambo.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in It's interesting how when we read scriptures which give analogies of the delta between us and Jehovah   
    Oh, the depth of the riches
    and the wisdom and the knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments
    and untraceable his ways!  Rom 11:33
    Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.  Prov 19:21
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    After briefly scanning all of the above, I have one question. 
    What is a MSC?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Did I say that God allow Satan to HELP him?  No.
    God doesn't need anyone's help, but He allows Satan to step in when His laws are rejected after He has warned His people of what could befall them.  
    2 Thess 2: “The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, 10 and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”  9,10
    2 Thess 2:  For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, 12 so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.”
    The presence of the “man of lawlessness” is apparent in the working of Satan.  Those under Satan’s deluding influence of this “man”,  are perishing – dying – will reach death.  And in this case it is his plan for them to die.  (Rev 20:7-10)
    God “sends”  -  He allows this delusion – the working of Satan, because they refuse to love the truth.
    If the warning God provides to those under this delusion is rejected, then Satan will bring death upon them – because he is the Angel of Death that God “sends”.  (Rev 18:4-8)
    Satan destroys, death is destruction of life.
    "You are of your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.”  John 8:44
    Satan is a murderer.  He is the Angel of Death.  It’s pretty simple. 
    You cannot understand the spiritual fulfillment in the last days.  To you, it is all physical.  The anointed priesthood is the spiritual Body of Christ/church.  (1 Cor 12; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 21:1-4;22:17)  This is God's order, His structure.  You believe in organized religion.  I don’t, not according to the way of man. (John 4:21-24) I believe that through God’s “organized” anointed priesthood, the law of God’s truth in Christ and His Bride (male or female), will be present on the earth in the Kingdom.  (Mal 2:7; Rev 5:9,10)
    We've been through this before.  I'm finished!
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in THE GOVERNING BODY'S "INSIGHT" COMPELS TRUST   
    This post is an extension of another comment just recently made here.  
    “I will give you insight and instruct you in the way you should go”  Ps 32:8a (NWT)
    This scripture was used by G. Losch, when speaking to JWs about having trust in the “faithful and discreet slave”. (Matt 24:45)  His talk began with these words:
    “1 Cor 13:7 says, that love ‘believes all things’.  Trusting others is an expression of love.  If you love somebody you only assume and think the best of him.”
    With that, he laid the groundwork to convince JWs that their love for the governing leadership, should motivate belief and trust in what they teach. (Prov 5:1-4; 21:6; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    He pointed out that the leaders have complete trust in God who is guiding them with the Holy Spirit; and in return, God and Jesus trust them to provide “precious” spiritual food. (Prov 23:1-3; John 8:44)
    He stated that JWs can take confidence in the insight given to these men, and their understanding and guidance using God’s word. (Prov 28:26; Matt 7:15-20; 1 Cor 13:4)
    The point was made clear that these men will be “taken to heaven” before the organization’s version of Armageddon breaks out; and with confidence, Jesus will then entrust all his belongings to them. (Psalm 12:3;Isa 44:20; Matt 25:24-30)
    This talk was presented in 2015. In 2020, D. Splane carefully crafted a speech that absolved them from a long-held false teaching about the identity of the locusts in the book of Joel. (Joel 1:4)  Their past “understanding” (falsehood) was that God’s anointed were the locust army, causing devastation through their preaching work.  They were responsible for destruction on the “land,” which was said to signify the people under the rule of religious leaders. However, Joel 1:6,13 specifically points out that it is God’s “land” that is under attack – His people under covenant, who have transgressed his laws.  (Ezek 38:16; Joel 2:3; Rev 9:3,4; Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9)
    Apparently, they deduced that this past teaching was not so insightful or precious anymore. (Prov 26:12)  The leaders had decided it was time to consider the prophesy “in its context”. (Prov 21:8)
    These men personally project their image as “faithful and discreet” (discreet meaning “wise, trusted, sensible”), and state they are approved by God before Jesus Christ returns.  (Matt 24:46,47; 25:21) (Ps 94:4; Isa 2:17,18; Matt 24:48-51)
    They say that this “faithful and discreet slave” has been gifted with insight from God, since 1919. (Prov 25:14; Jer 29:8,9; 7:8)
    Well, their historical record of consistent failed teachings does not look so insightful; and certainly not precious, since they purge their publications on a regular basis. (Eccl 12:12-14; Luke 16:2) It wasn’t God who was guiding and instructing them ‘in the way they should go’, when writing these now discarded books. It was their own boastful and fleshly motives that inspired their false teachings. (Rom 1:30-32; 2 Tim 3:1-5)  Jesus said that those who remain attached to him, to the “vine”, would produce teachings or “fruit” that would last. (John 15:4-6)
    I think many will agree that it would have been a wise and sensible move, to have read the entire book of Joel "in its context", before assuming that this army was God's holy people, and proceed to teach it wrongly…for years. (Prov 28:11)
    The locust-scorpions in Revelation are also wrongly taught as God’s anointed ones. Will this teaching change in time?  It’s hard to say. They’ve made a comparison, yet a flimsy one, to Joel’s locusts, saying that these plagues are “similar but different”.   You can see their chart here:
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87091-shedding-light-on-the-army-of-locusts/?tab=comments#comment-144049“
    Who are the Locusts” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/03/who-are-locusts.html
     
    Who then, comprise the army of locusts both in Joel and in Rev chapter 9 in our day?  Why do they come upon God’s people in the last days?  Well, consider the scenario just described. False teachers have captivated them with false promises and corrupt doctrine. (Mark 13:22; Acts 20:29,30; Titus 1:16)
    This was prophesied to occur in the last days – a powerful delusion used by Satan to “sift” the remnant of the holy ones, “as wheat”. (Jer 5:31; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:31; Luke 21:24; Rev 2:10;; 2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,7; Mal 3:18; Matt 25:33; Rev 12:7 )
    He has ‘employed’ those who accept his gifts of power, authority and riches over the “kingdoms of the inhabited earth” to do his will; that is, to destroy the anointed under the “woman” new covenant, using deceit.  (Luke 4:5-8; Rev 16:13,14; 12:1,4,17)  (In Luke 4:5 , the meaning of “world”, is the "inhabited earth" - God’s land – Ps 132:7; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23)
    To do this, he formulated a lie that led them into idolatry to men and their organization; willingly trusting and believing the false prophet/”harlot’s” teachings. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:3,4,11,12) As God said, when His people fall into sin, He withdraws His protection.  It is always only a remnant that turns back to Him, seeking forgiveness and protection from the enemy. (Lev 26:1,3,4,9,14,17;40-42;Joel 2:12,13,17,18; Dan 12:1; Rom 9:27,28)
    The anointed “Jews” are under the rule of a “Gentile” army. (Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 11:1,2) “Army” is the descriptive term used by the organization itself, in reference to the expansive world-wide elder body.  This army has been given power to judge and spiritually “kill” any who transgress their decrees. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) It has effectively trampled down a spiritual nation into silence. (Zeph 3:3,4; Ezek 38:14,15;Joel 2:4,5;Rev 9:7; Dan 11:15,31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    Now we can see why such great tribulation comes upon God's people (who are not yet sealed). They face an alliance (Dan.2:40-43) that is stronger than any foe they have ever faced in all history 
    (Rev 12:17; 13:1,4,11,14,15; 11:7; 6:9,11) (Rev 16:13-16; 19:19-20).
    Jesus said that if our time of unsealed captivity and trampling under them (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:20; Rev 2:20; Micah 3:5; Rev 13:10,7; 11:2; 9:4,10)  were not cut short, none would be saved (Matt 24:22; 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24; 18:26,27). 
    “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
    The opening scripture in Psalm 32:8 continues by saying, “I will give you advice with my eye upon you”.  God sends his prophets to warn His people of the devastating outcome when they have fallen into sin and idolatry. (Zeph 3:7,8; Amos 3:7) He has always advised them to leave the teachings of false prophets/spiritual harlots, and to turn to Him in repentance.   Today, is no different.  (Hos 8:1; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 22:6).
     
     
    “Armageddon, is it everything you thought it would be?”  - http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/
     
     
     

  24. Haha
    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Understandably. It just means that each new generation (new GB generation, new JW members generation, or people in general) has learned nothing from previous generations from the recent or distant past.  
    Is this paragraph about asking questions due to a misunderstanding by followers? Or is it that the followers tried to set the dogma on the basis of Jesus' teaching and-or previous or subsequent answers / comments / illustrations He gave them?
    Sure, it’s not ideal for a sinner to follow another sinner, but if a JW member so desires, who am I to object to that?  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Understandably. It just means that each new generation (new GB generation, new JW members generation, or people in general) has learned nothing from previous generations from the recent or distant past.  
    Is this paragraph about asking questions due to a misunderstanding by followers? Or is it that the followers tried to set the dogma on the basis of Jesus' teaching and-or previous or subsequent answers / comments / illustrations He gave them?
    Sure, it’s not ideal for a sinner to follow another sinner, but if a JW member so desires, who am I to object to that?  
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