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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Please, who were people who were "guardians of doctrines" in period of 2000 years before WTJWorg? ... and where that place was located you speaking about? In Bible?
    Then God do not need GB to be "guardians" today!
    Perhaps it is funny in your community, ...... but shameful and not expected that you would use such shallow way of communication. ..... and I did not come to this forum to teach someone how to behave.
    Good luck with that.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    It is not about justification something, but about fact that Bible never said how celebrating birthday is wrong. 
    Just for serious fun. Bible not instructed JW members to give monthly report, but you still doing that despite fact how JHVH or Jesus not command you are obligated to do so. Even more, elders making decisions about your "spirituality" based on your monthly reports. Where in Bible you can find justification for that?
    Bible not instructed you how going to higher education is against God' or Jesus' teachings, but your publications still harping on that, and you welcome such instructions. 
    Do you really want to go into and to enumerate what are and how many there are real, original "Bible Instructions" God gave to people? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Apologize, but we have to make clear distinction between this two celebration. Christmas vs Jesus Birthday celebration. Christmas is one wrong way full with traditions and folklore of that how people are convinced that they giving honor to Jesus. JW members missed opportunity to "show the world" what can be better or proper way to doing so.   
    Nowhere in its text does the Bible show that celebrating a birthday is wrong or pagan. 
    Has having more than one wife ever been a pagan custom? Jewish law in the Bible says no, but it was and became a Jewish custom legitimized by decrees. How would JW members declare today what polygamy is? A pagan custom or simply a social norm of a nation and tradition?
    Is celebrating a birthday "more dangerous and bigger evil" than having more women or vice versa?  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to lentaylor71 in The Generation of 1914 truly doesn't pass away until 2034.   
    I don't believe Jesus was referring to 2034 when he said this generation.
    The goalposts have moved many times on this subject and the GB have not been infused by the Holy Spirit regarding the 1914 and has become a problematic .
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in God's Sacred and Holy Name...   
    Life would have been a bit strange if always called my father Bernie instead of dad/father.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    You wouldn’t know a waste of time if one bit you in the rear end.
    Now here’s a waste of time:
    ”Good morning, brothers. Our first talk today is on the subject of dress and grooming.”

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    You write a massive STATEMENT pretending that YOU have this special knowledge but you condemn @Witness when she writes anything. Hypocrisy at it's best. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Okay…I’ll shut up now …😉
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Yes I agree with what you have said..but it’s not up to us to tell others not to go or proceed…it boils down to a personal choice…
    To be a teacher..lawyer or social worker or nurse now…we have to go to university…..we must learn to live with in the world…yet remain in good standing before Jehovah..
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    BUT, your GB and other Leaders will happily rely on Educated people when it comes to :-
    Lawyers in court.
    Building Warwick and buying and building Ramapo.
    And where did all the computer knowledge come from, and all the filming / video technique ?
    All of the above needed legal advice, technical advice, safety inspections et al.
    Most of that comes from higher education, it is not learnt in the normal schooling of youngsters, and it is not by learnt online courses.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    I'm sorry, but I don't think it can be looked at and compared so literally. The foreknowledge and knowledge and wisdom and experience of Jesus, who came to Earth from the position of a person in the Universe with the title of - the Word, the Firstborn and the Only Begotten, is incomparable to Adam and Eve, even as "perfect" humans. This is another type of equality that was needed to equalize the values of life and death, and thus redemption.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    lol.... so, other faiths have also God's guidance and blessings to find "the truth", not just GB !?  
    In my case, it happened that my mother and then immediately my father accepted the JW religion when I was 7 years old. Let’s say I was raised from a young age “in faith”. So it’s just such circumstances that I’ve been the most, and the longest considering my age, in the JW religion. So, what to expect from me? :)))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?   
    So you too would have the Anointed in subjection to the Elders. 
    It seems you would have had Jesus in subjection to the Jewish religious leaders then.  After all it was the scriptural thing of the day. 
    If Almighty God has anointed ladies, He must have good reason for doing so. And no Anointed ones should be in subjection to the non-anointed, non-spirit guided Elders. 
    I'm not saying Anointed ladies should take the lead, but I'm saying that ALL Anointed ones are more important to God and Christ than any 'earthly' Elder or any of the  'earthly' Leaders of the JW Org. 
    Please remember it will be 'for on account of the chosen ones' that 'the days will be cut short'.  Those chosen ones ARE the BODY OF CHRIST. 
    As for 
    That must refer to your GB who presume they are the F&DS and presume to say that 'God and Christ trust them'. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Srecko, I think a TRUE theocratic system inspired by Holy Spirit, would not have the shortcomings and problems that the W/t / JW Org has. But of course it would suffer serious persecution from outside forces.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    This is all guess work what I’m going to say…but I cannot see a loving Father create another family whilst he had a rebellious son in his existing one….we only have indication from the scriptures that up until pride settled in his heart…Satan the devil was to all purposes a loving beautiful magnificent son of Jehovah…a trusted member of his heavenly family…
    Depending on who you read….and I think once upon a time even we said it…he may have been put in charge of Adam and Eve…to teach them etc….off course there is no scriptural proof of this…to me it sort of makes sense….
    Power and pride hey…it can get any one….
    as to your last paragraph..I agree…I genuinely  wish you well …
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    lol.... so, other faiths have also God's guidance and blessings to find "the truth", not just GB !?  
    In my case, it happened that my mother and then immediately my father accepted the JW religion when I was 7 years old. Let’s say I was raised from a young age “in faith”. So it’s just such circumstances that I’ve been the most, and the longest considering my age, in the JW religion. So, what to expect from me? :)))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Thanks for both of your comments Thinking. In those days, as i can recall, before new system of kings was established, there was important people like Judges, Priests, Levites, Tribe Elders, ..., and Law of Moses.  From this I would conclude that this is not about a lack of administration or persons in positions of power to lead the people. Ever since the creation of Adam and Eve, God has established the principle of "free will" and independent decision-making, and the ability to learn to recognize "what is good and what is bad." 
    No matter how you try to set things up there is no real solution. If the people are without "leadership", anarchy occurs. If a nation has “leadership” then there is an abuse of power and position that is often times legalized to the point that little can be change.
    The old nation of Israel during the Judges was not a disorganized group that came from the “jungle”. There were laws and people in power, and the Israelites were a “literate” people who knew how to read the Law of Moses. Something else went wrong.
    There is insufficient information on how God envisioned Adam and Eve to gain “knowledge of what is good and what is evil,” and insufficient we can know how God intended the principle of “free will” and independent decision-making to be implemented globally. According to the Bible report, His idea failed very quickly as far as the First People were concerned. We don’t know enough about what happened to the “rebellious angel or angels” before Eden Tree. So we have a question; did the "devil" have a rebellious activity long before the appearance of Adam and Eve, based on the same principle of "free will"? If so, the Bible says nothing that God sanctioned him. Which would be strange if God had done nothing against rebellion “in heaven”. It is hard for me to imagine that the "devil" could have hidden his rebellious spirit so well, and that it was only with the appearance of Adam and Eve that it first came to the fore in such a public way.
    Unfortunately, I come to the realization that, all types of systems are flawed. In Eden, in the ancient Nation of Israel, and in the WTJWorg, the so-called "theocratic system of government" has the same effects and shortcomings as the best system man has found and called the "democratic system of government."
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    lol.... so, other faiths have also God's guidance and blessings to find "the truth", not just GB !?  
    In my case, it happened that my mother and then immediately my father accepted the JW religion when I was 7 years old. Let’s say I was raised from a young age “in faith”. So it’s just such circumstances that I’ve been the most, and the longest considering my age, in the JW religion. So, what to expect from me? :)))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Secro have you been on utube and seen how many other faiths don’t celebrate birthdays …..I was shocked to see how many take the same stand as us with the same principles involved. You will also see the same amount who argue like you…so the thing is…make up your own mind on this…settle it with your own heart….but do you argue with those other faiths who don’t celebrate birthdays as well.?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    Lol….thinking never said any of that…I just copy and pasted from the satanic Bible….which I found whilst doing my own research on birthdays…
    All that comes from satanist…..worshippers of the devil …from their own Bible……and no..I don’t own one….must say I was surprised myself..as I thought Halloween was their number one holiday….not so it seems….
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Thinking in JW Core Beliefs .... As Applied   
    There is no justification for that secro…and yes unfortunately we are judged on our reports as to our spirituality by many…but that is slowly changing……( so it seems to me anyway ) and we are wrong to advise not to do higher education….I’m hoping eventually that will change….and no I don’t put reports in and yes I do still witness….personally tho I find these things frustrating…I know these things will pass eventually and be corrected… 
    There are many things that we may see not right amongst Jehovah’s people….but we need to put up with some things knowing Jehovah is allowing them…and besides…like it or not…it’s good training for us..to humbly wait on Jesus and his Kingdom.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?   
    And now @Arauna joins in on the insults. These JW 'Christians' really love to insult people. 
    And the only reason you find to insult her IS BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN.  If she was a man and saying that they were Anointed, you would lose all your ammunition. You seem to hate that women can be Anointed and that women can prophecy. But scripture proves that both those things are possible. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    I think we have to remember that Satan has demanded to sift God’s holy people “as wheat”. (Luke 22:31)  In the last days, when the last of the anointed are present, he uses a deceiving tactic to test them.   If you’ll notice, the organization took awhile to develop before it could be said to be a full-fledged organization.  Doctrines have changed from giving Christ his share of glory, to concentrating on “Jehovah” and even more so, the organization – an idol, the work of man’s hands.  (Acts 17:24)   Gradually, the elder body gained a foothold, a united "army" as it is called, and now it rules completely over the anointed ones; while these priests are told to remain segregated from one another. (Dan 8:25) The organization is a trap, baited with a little truth, and it has successfully led all anointed into it, over the years. (1 Pet 5:8; Matt 24:4; Luke 21:8)  Why.  Because this is last Satan’s tactic - his magnum opus -  to “sift” the anointed as wheat.  
    God allows it. He allows us to make our choice.  It will refine the anointed if they submit to Christ and leave the slavery to men and their earthly treasures.  He allowed Satan to sift Jesus as wheat through temptations. Luke 4.  He warned the anointed through the scriptures of what would happen to them in the final days.  Jesus said false prophets would appear and deceive the “elect”.  (Matt 24:24,25) That many would listen to a deceiving spirit (1 Tim 4:1) But, they took no note.  They allowed their hearts to be captured by “empty philosophy” lies – all of them have. (Col 2:8) That's how powerful the deception is.  Revelation speaks of this deceit that occurs as two Beasts – the organization (Rev 13:1,2) and the false prophets that guides it.  (Rev 13:11,12)  It calls it "captivity" by the “sword”, by the use of God's word. (Heb 4:12; Rev 13:10)  The Beast of Rev 13:1,2 is the "man of lawlessness" that rules over the Temple/dwelling of God.  (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:18)
    As @Kick_Faceinator said, Christendom has nothing to do with who the MOL is.  It has nothing to do with politics.  It has everything to do with God’s anointed and who they listen to, which in the organization happens to be the “wicked slave”/the two horned Beast of Rev 13:11, who beats them down with their elder body, into submission.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:5-7
    The organization is a refining pot. (Luke 13:23,24; Matt 7:14; 24:13)  We couldn’t see that when we were “in” and blinded.  Only if one desires to search out authentic truth, are they saved from Satan’s dark trap. (Isa 29:18) God sees every minute detail of our hearts.  He allows the spiritually “poor”, the “afflicted” to be set free, by opening their eyes to see the trap for what it is.
    Satan is let loose from the abyss, the place of “not perceiving”, which allows him the ability to perceive how to devise his plan of deceit.  He “gives” the “key” to do so, to those he wins over, with his “gifts” of power, authority and riches. (Rev 9:1,2)  The anointed are described as “stars”, who should shine their lamp of light as Jesus did. (Gen 22:15-17; Dan 12:3; Matt 5:14) If they fall from God’s grace, they are symbolically compared to a fallen star. (2 Pet 3:17)    Rev 9:1;8:10 speaks of a great star that falls from God’s grace. It falls on waters (of truth, John 7:38), but poisons them, with its teachings.  Many people die from these waters.  This star is a composite false prophet – the Beast of Rev 13:11,12. 
    How do I know that Satan is let loose to deceive the elect before Armageddon is finished? 
    Rev 16 mentions the Beast (organization) of Rev 13:1,2,  and the false prophet…and Satan.  The “kings of the earth” are the anointed members of Christ.  (Rev 1:5)
    3 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
    Ok, so the anointed are overcome by a trap of deception, lies spoken by three – Satan, the organization and its leadership.   Also, these teachings inspired by Satan, reach people all over the world who become part of the Beast.  They are “gathered” together.
    Rev 20 tells us more:
    “Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
    Gog and Magog are another symbolic description of the two Beasts of Rev 13.  We get another glimpse  of what Gog and Magog accomplish against the anointed in Ezek. Chapter 38:15,16.  The pattern set then, is repeated symbolically today.   There it shows us how the holy people are met by a “northern army”, which is also depicted as locusts in Joel 2 and Rev 9:3-6
    In these two chapters, it tells us that the saints/anointed/priesthood are deceived and gathered into the organization.  They are “surrounded” by the leadership, gathered for the war of Armageddon - a war of truth against deceit/lies. The Beast/organization “makes war with the saints” - against the temple, the sanctuary of God. ( Rev 13:5-7; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    There are several descriptions of the same event in the last days.  The Wt. has taken these accounts and applied them to the political governments, or to Christendom.  They have even applied the locust/scorpions of Rev 9 that torture God’s holy people who haven’t been sealed, to the anointed themselves. 
    The Throne of Satan
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?   
    Yes, I agree. WTJWorg Administration has been proving that for 142 years ... with black letters on white paper. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Did everyone notice another book added to the Watchtower Library "CD" and the WOL?   
    Thanks again. The enumeration presented shows on which elements the doctrinal settings of WTJWorg are based. It also contains a list of things you act on because of accepted doctrines, but also because of some direct actions in the past that you seek to emulate.
    Certainly, we must acknowledge that some of the doctrines on the list are the product of today's JW's interpretation or understanding of the meaning of biblical passages, and this is subject to further discussion, which has already been discussed or will be discussed in the future.
    If you allow me, I would say that only some of the things you mentioned are recognizable as "religious doctrine". And some other things are part of the administrative and organizational nature, which refer to some patterns of behavior and thought of people thousands of years ago. That patterns must not be wrong because they are old, but are just reflection of life conditions of people in past time. 
    When you or other people mentioning Jesus words from Matt 22:39 - The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’, -  I would never thought about them as "religious doctrine". Those words are many miles away from any sort of "religious doctrine". They are unimaginably more sublime and important than most "doctrines". Well, in fact of all the "doctrines", I would venture to say. .....This is evident from question: Was the law created/made for man or was man created/made for the law? In Mark 2:27 Jesus said, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 
    Question; Was Sabbath "core doctrine"? or some minor rule? Sabbath was/is part of 10 Commandments. In that/such context perhaps many believers would say it is "core doctrine". Jesus showed another perspective.
    According to, great caution is needed when it comes to "core doctrines". They must be in the service of man, not the other way around. Understanding the doctrines and choosing the doctrines by which we should look at ourselves and others, our own lives and the lives of other people, and derive other instructions and guidelines can easily turn into a multiplication of life-suffocating rules.
    We should also see what the differences and similarities are when we use another term - “principles”. Are "principles" in the service of "doctrines"? Are they equal or are “principles” more important?  
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