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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Arauna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it?
    Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    This is obviously untrue. JWs kick their children out if the children disobey the parents or  GB / JW org.  Those parents demand their children get baptised into the JW org, then when a child goes 'astray' that child is thrown out on the streets without anyone to turn to. Then you wonder why that child will turn to the 'world' to stay alive. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    I wish I could copy and paste something i have on file. Something that @JW Insider uploaded a long time ago. About a young man at Bethel that got himself into a bit of trouble, was d/fed, and then JUMPED IN FROM OF A TRAIN. SUICIDE.  So it happens inside the Org and outside. I know of an Elder that commited suicide by running his car engine and inhaling the  exaust fumes whilst drinking alcohol. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    Um let's see now.
     
    Um, me thinks Tom is the pot calling the kettle black. he also answers his own questions. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    It can be. From first sentence to the last. But, keeping in mind that these are JW members, then it stops being weird because the ideas came from someone within the System. It can only be strange that people on the outside don’t understand the JW System :)).
    As I said, it is good for members of society (of different ideologies) to connect, at least through children. Because an individual often needs the help of the wider community to be able to live. Sometimes the whole community finds itself in a situation of being affected by a natural disaster and if they do not act, how much so, mutually it will be harder for them to overcome the crisis. Physical or mental. So, it is not bad for children to be involved in humanitarian matters, but with measure and with what children are and should be ... The future of a better humanity. And not under the control of the System that makes them future adults who will blindly follow GB.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    Not to mentioned Sunday Ice Cream money (after KH meeting). It is good to learn children about charity and sharing with others. But, is it really proper to do that with Institutional Cartoons of Company who have real-estate riches, stocks, etc?
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    And you don't think children should have fun and play games ?  You don't think children should be allowed to live a 'childhood' ?  Of course not, because your Leaders tell you that children must be kept away from the real world.  You don't want children to build up their own spiritual immune system....  
    You want children to be dictated to by parents, that are dictated to by Elders, that are dictated to by , , , the GB / Leaders of the W/t / JW Org.  
    You seem to want this idea that JW parents make their children sit down and copy, 50 copies of a dictated letter. Then those JW parents can happily fill in those lovely little 'ministry forms' for all their children, reporting all the hours their little ones have 'happily' spent doing the GB's will. And you call this serving God. 
    And that is all apart from the legality, even from the Org's viewpoint, of posting letters through people's doors, during a serious virus problem.  I do know for sure that the instructions from the Leaders of the Org, is NOT to put things through people's doors, but to post letters through the postal system.  I don't think the article makes it clear as to how the letters were received. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    MR Russell, when he started the Watchtower, stated that THERE WAS NO NEED OF AN ORGANISATION. 
    It is he, just a man, that your Watchtower / JW Org use as a foundation. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Ray Devereaux in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    Why you call my name in vain? :)))
    Children want to be like adults. Adults want their children to be like themselves or something bigger and better. Children imitate adults and accept suggestions. I think these mentioned children of JW parents are doing what their parents suggested to them.
    Sometimes it can be nice, cute, funny, fun, delighting adults and the like. This child's letter, which is presented in the topic, has at least two elements. It begins with a good introduction, then turns in a direction that is religiously marked because the child mentions the Bible in a way that is characteristic of religiously oriented people, someone who is engaged in Bible study. In other words, the sentence sounds like it was written by an adult, not a child.
    This is followed by a completely strange wording that invites the recipient of the letter to go to JWORG. This is where the child's mind, children's openness and naivety completely cease, and the influence of propaganda begins.
    So, I don’t mind children writing letters to their neighbors at a time when their surroundings are affected by some trouble, if their parents want it. It is a kind of social engagement, though religiously colored. Everyone is looking for their own meaning and purpose of life, their own way out of the problem.
    Given that this is related to WTJWorg, then this kind of action through letters can only be seen as a way of acting of a religious organization and its members who stopped going from house to house and found a substitute way of preaching.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Thank you. Every man has his nights and days.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    .. strong words.
    Opposers argue is garbage? People's motive are garbage? Suggests that people with such emotions are garbage? JWTV replica?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    How true this is. It reminds me of the misuse of the Romans scripture regarding the Superior Authorities. 
    But xero is showing his true colours once again. Garbage ?  The GB does deny free will to anyone that becomes a member of it's Org. They even demand baptism into the Org, not to God, Christ and Holy Spirit, as Jesus instructed.
    The GB even decide what type of clothing people should wear. And oh dear, remember the Beard problem ? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I agree with the explanation you gave, supported by life situations and the possible reasons why this is happening. So, I see this: People, members, seek guidance and help from those they think are “closer to God,” that they are “more spiritual,” that they “know more,” etc.
    We need to ask ourselves how this situation comes about. Is it because of the existence of a "hierarchy", the doctrine that there are "classes" within the assembly. FDS class and non-FDS class. The clergy class and the lay class.
    As much as WTJWorg declaratively denies the existence of such differences, it still exists in JW assemblies. Clergy "exist" to give support and answer to members of laity. That is how is in all religion, so why we would expect to be different in JW church?
    On the other hand, those who give "answers" to layman's questions have created a climate in which it is "normal" for laymen to ask, and "normal" the clergy know the answers to everything. And clergy wants to know the answers to everything even when they don't really have an answer, even if they don't need to know the answer, nor if do they need to give an answer for what doesn't concern them.
    Also, Bible don't speak about things that Watchtower's "our readers ask", study editions or BOE articles answering. Private opinions made by "spiritual men" have to stay private opinions ....not teachings and doctrines and instructions.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Good explanation, for sure. But please, don't forget that we are dealing with a religious system in which rank and file need to "know" who teachers and representatives are. That is, to express ourselves in WTJWorg jargon, who is the "channel" through which "all truth and knowledge" comes. ". In this "channel" members should have confidence, trust (statements from GB+Helpers members on JWTV and in publications). Also this channel is “the only one authorized by God and Jesus”, as JW's believe, to give lessons, interpretations and direction.
    In this and such context we have to deal with your fine observation and explanation.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it?
    Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    It is not a grey area at all. The ministry is part of the JW 'church activity'. This is easily proven by what is happening right now. Letter writing instead of door to door work. This is instruction by your Leaders as is all ministry. NO grey area at all.
    Now, what you say about children being the responsibility of the parents. This is where I say that ALL Pedophiles in ALL congregations should be made known to Everyone in the Congregation,(and outside really). Any proven act of abuse reported to Elders should be made known, naming the abuser but not naming the child. But it has been proven that Pedophiles have been hidden in congregations Earthwide, especially Elder pedophiles. So the congregation parents are not to blame for that. Remember that the KH is 'advertised' / spoken of, as being a safe place for families. JWs constantly invite 'new studies' to the KH, telling them what a wonderful and friendly place the KH is. From there JWs invite people into their own homes and on to ministry. It's a 'snowball' effect. More activities, more mixing with others. Therefore everyone should have ALL needed information about dangerous congregants including Elders.
    Anna, just turn off the JW think for one moment, and look for truth about it all. Look into your heart not into the GB eyes. You know what has gone on in the JW Org. And there is no proof that it has stopped. Why ? Because the Elders still have control over the congregations. and we know what happens if people question the Elders, or if a person complains about being mistreated.  D/fed for causing a division in the congregation. Loss of all contact with everyone in the Org. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    First Christians suffered and died for principles and died with thoughts how it is not justified what Caesar doing.
    WTJWorg are not willing to "suffer and die" for same reasons, because "cost of operating" depend on money not on God blessings.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    WTJWorg still have their lawyers. Perhaps they will give suggestion to GB; "We can sue Australia for this" :)))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Showing sexuality is a private matter between husband and wife, right? Then why are there GB regulations about it?
    Things are not quite as they seem at first glance. WTJWorg has a great influence in family and private matters. And it does so as a Company, Organization, Institution.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    ... apparently not, as it IS up to God ...
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Yes, well then you know how some of us here feel about your comments don't you.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    This is so hypocritical. It would be funny BUT it is very serious.
    BUT the GB and their Lawyers still refuse to hand over the Pedophile Database in America. 
    And here in UK the Bethel did not want to hand over information, but were taken to court and had to hand it over. 
    And the GB Lawyers have been seen on video whilst in court, Telling Lies. 
    And Elders claim Clergy Penitent Privilege so as not to give evidence against other Elders in court, but then the Org pretends that Elders are not Clergy.  So how can Elders claim that privilege if they are not clergy ? Hypocrites. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Ha ha Ha. Yes of course, especially when Elders take other people's children on the ministry and then abuse them out in the countryside. Or Elders take private bible studies with young children and molest the child during the 'study'. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    JW congregation does not have "Sunday School" and children are responsible(responsibility) of parents. But it seems how parents are not only one who "teaching own children", but MS and Elders are involved in this practice too, not only in Australia and not only in those states where this is obligated/legislated.
    Ok, than we see not only domestic/family program of teaching religious things to children, but Institutional Program/Settings with MS and Elders involved.
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