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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Thanks for fed back information  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Ok. And what are your expectations about me and my comments? Perhaps other people have different view than you and will find it is acceptable to/for them. 
    How you came to such perspective, that i imagine something about myself? You don't have to answer, it is just my incidental thought. More important is, how does your "analysis" of me contribute to the matter we are talking about? 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    No, I did not say this was fake news. It is true.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    If I may butt in here. Srecko's first language is not English. Also @Srecko Sostar, when someone says "Don't imagine...something" it does not literally mean that the person saying this is accusing you of illusions, it's just a phrase that essentially means : "don't think....you are the only one....etc. (Zar ne mislite. Nemoj misliti da jesi...)
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Yes, but none of you have any true answers as to why your GB / Leaders have got it wrong so many times, when they say they are the Faithful and Discreet slave. 
    Is God or Christ telling them lies ? If the GB / Leaders of the Watchtower are supposed to be the true source of spiritual food, then who is telling lies ?  Why would God or Christ mislead your GB / Leaders ? 
    The real reason is, of course, that your GB / Leaders are fake. They are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit because they are not the F&DS.  And you JWs are so hurt by those facts that you have to pretend you have answers. You have to keep serving Men, because it's all you know how to do. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    WHAT COMPLET HYPOCRISY. This truly shows the GB / Watchtower / JW Org for what they really are. 
    It's all about the money, money, money.  They do not care about people. 
    BUT they didn't 'believe that' earlier, when money wasn't involved.  
    THIS IS WHO YOU SERVE JWs. THESE ARE YOUR MASTERS, YOUR GB AND THEIR LAWYERS AND THEIR NON ANOINTED HELPERS. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I don't know how JW member (not only you dear Cesar) can so repetitively, resolutely and drastically advocate a position that is contrary to the public proclamation of WTJWorg and even more important to the teachings of Jesus ?!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I am respecting your freedom to this (and other) opinion about "people here" and "people of your worldwide brotherhood". I am sure that you in the same moment have perception and idea and guess about reality, that many people in your "worldwide brotherhood" feel and think similar to "people here", but they are not here to tell us that. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Let it put this way: Person can understand context for WTJWorg interpretation about 607 to 1914 to 1975. Is that (understanding) enough to make WTJWorg ideas to be true?
    It is not (only) about mental state of individual , but more about how WTJWorg doctrines shape and direct mental state of person. Continuity continues :)) 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Is there any particular reason for us to discuss more about other religions and organizations at the JW Open Club?
    Current and former members gathered here to exchange opinions, views, beliefs, experiences ....,
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    WTJWorg The administration has changed its mind? On what grounds and motives? Some are mentioned in the article (money issue). Indeed, we can speak of the hypocrisy of those who are the “leaders” of this organization.
    Arguments by some to justify non-cooperation were that the CSA was not “institutional violence” but “domestic violence” (Holly Folk from Cesnur) or that WTJWorg had no “institutional setings” with which to participate in reddress.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Isabella in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    Authorities are urging the Jehovah's Witnesses to contact them to get the ball rolling on the religious group's decision to join the national redress scheme for child sexual abuse survivors.
    The organisation says it will sign up because of new rules introduced by the federal government, which mean it would lose its charity status - and subsequent tax exemptions - for continuing to hold out.
    "Now that the law requires charities to join the scheme, Jehovah's Witnesses will comply," it said in a statement to AAP on Wednesday.
    "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it is their responsibility before God to respect and co-operate with the authorities."
    A spokeswoman for Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has welcomed the statement but implored the organisation to contact authorities.
    "(We) encourage them to make urgent contact with the Department of Social Services so they can make good on this commitment," she told AAP.
    "It can take up to six months for institutions to complete the process of joining and the department would hope to work co-operatively and with haste to facilitate the Jehovah's Witnesses joining as quickly as possible.
    Read more: https://au.news.yahoo.com/jehovahs-witnesses-join-redress-scheme-061052602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHbuBHuqnP7KNLb527EVBCNI9aRGuZaVR17ucV6gpZ6gudjs9fT539uAXbCWjB_VAf1U9idMlVhs83yiIa_UDL8I1JzAjES24c9U1blerB_57bzgWeL303HoiR8FESq-9RPGgV4s-0KjIq4umSvUtyV-Xy7uV1GeVbMS1O8PSygP
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Not my striving, just observation and some sort of thinking about issue.
    Let me explain, please. Who was inspired in the 1st century? Christians? Which Christians? Every Christian? Only Writers of Letters and Books of Bible? Men, women, children? Missionaries? Elders? Etc.
    WTJWorg said how "gifts of miracles" aka "inspiration" stopped in 1st Century. But the expressions of the spirit in the first assembly were not the only in "miraculous works." What about teachings? JW members  are said First Christians to have had wrong predictions and expectations, thus trying to justify the wrong doctrines for today’s GB and JW. Were the apostles "guided by the spirit" or inspired by the spirit? "
    How did they work "miracles"? Under "guidance or inspiration"? 
    WTJWorg publications using verse: Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement,*+ but test the inspired statements* to see whether they originate with God,+ for many false prophets have gone out into the world. - 1 john 4 1
    ... and teach members to using these in everyday life to not be deceived. How will JW recognize the inspired expression? How will JW test the inspired expression? How will JW refuse to believe in an inspired expression? .... if he himself is not inspired to be able to see the difference? How will an uninspired individual cope with an inspired expression?
    So it’s not about my insistence on the topic, it’s about how to recognize truth from lies. Is it easier / harder to recognize an uninspired lie or an inspired lie? :))
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Can the use of these biblical passages, to unimportant individuals like me, be applied to GB because they adopted doctrines that later turned out to be wrong (false). This can be explained in two ways, which you would, I would say, “suggest through the first few minutes of the video”: 1) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the outside and 2) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the inside.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Can the use of these biblical passages, to unimportant individuals like me, be applied to GB because they adopted doctrines that later turned out to be wrong (false). This can be explained in two ways, which you would, I would say, “suggest through the first few minutes of the video”: 1) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the outside and 2) by the influence of the “deceiving spirit” from the inside.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    But back on track. Miracles and being inspired of God's Holy spirit.
    It seems that most JWs on here DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD POURING OUT HIS HOLY SPIRIT 'in the last days'. 
    They do not believe that anyone will be inspired. WHY ? Because the GB of the Watchtower / JW Org only teaches physical things, not spiritual things.
     Joel 2 : 28
    Berean Study Bible
    And afterward, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.
    Acts 2 : 17
    Berean Study Bible
    ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
    So, are we in those LAST DAYS ?  Well the Watchtower keeps saying we are.
    So are you calling God a liar concerning the pouring out of His spirit  ? 
    Zechariah 8 : 23
    Berean Study Bible
    This is what the LORD of Hosts says: “In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue will tightly grasp the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’ ”
    That Jew is the TRUE Anointed. So will you be one of those 'ten men' ? 
    You of little faith. JWs that pretend to believe in God through Christ. In fact you do not believe in either God or Christ. You put your faith in MEN. Your GB and your Watchtower Society / JW Org, are your gods. 
    That is why you do not believe in the miracle of God's Holy Spirit. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    .. how they approached truth ... 
    ... word of god as something outside of them ....
    .. they approach the truth of god as something inside them ...     
    ... subjectivity leads to all kinds of mistakes ...
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    Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”[c] 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. - John 7
    In which version is it possible to make more mistakes?
    When are you "guided, lead by the spirit" (GB claim they are guided)
    or
    when are you "inspired by the spirit" (GB claim they are not inspired)?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Obviously we have a different view of the meaning of the term "inspired", but also of the manifestation of the action of the spirit, if / when someone is "inspired". Simply put, "being inspired" does not only mean how someone walks on water or speaks a language they have never learned, walks through a wall and the like. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    ..... inspiration is where you find it.
    When attacked by the Japanese Empire, the United States was faced with an enemy that was determined to control half the World, and to slaughter anyone that resisted that effort.
    .... whole nations, if necessary.
    The Allied invasion of Japan to destroy their war machine would have taken One Million American lives, and Four Million Japanese lives, not counting wounded which could be easily four times that on each side.
    ..... counting the cost of that inspired the development of the atomic bombs, which ended the war in the Pacific.
    The United States is still awarding "Purple Hearts" manufactured in 1945, and never used.
    Women since time not memorialized have changed allegiances when they marry ... and it's easier if all their bridges to the past have been burned.
    ... and better than being in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in early August, 1945, when to save 5 million lives, 250,000 men, women, and children were incinerated.
    In a world where the Jews were surrounded by relentless determined and evil enemies, who were trying to destroy them in wars of attrition, and wipe them off the face of the Earth, Jehovah's instructions to take the virgins of the enemy, and destroy their families was practical, just, and reasonable.
    .... those that think otherwise are living in a Winnie-The-Pooh cartoon.
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    For example; When Moses wrote “under inspiration, things like - ”don’t murder", or when he wrote that "soldiers can have captive virgins and take them if they want but they have to kill all her family before", - I wonder if passing/adoption/writing such regulations requires only influence of "inspiration" or can it be done/achieved in another way, without inspiration. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    You see @Srecko Sostar some of these JWs do not believe in miracles, even if they pretend to. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    One of most indicative "miracles" is to be "inspired by God (HS)". GB deny every possibility that individual or group of people can be "inspired" by God today. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I don't know how JW member (not only you dear Cesar) can so repetitively, resolutely and drastically advocate a position that is contrary to the public proclamation of WTJWorg and even more important to the teachings of Jesus ?!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I am respecting your freedom to this (and other) opinion about "people here" and "people of your worldwide brotherhood". I am sure that you in the same moment have perception and idea and guess about reality, that many people in your "worldwide brotherhood" feel and think similar to "people here", but they are not here to tell us that. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Um interesting that you judge me. BUT I repent of my sins to Almighty God through Jesus Christ, as I should.
     
     
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