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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Thanks! :))
     
    Please, go to JWTV and 2020 Annual Meeting with Kenneth Cooke and A. Morris with their (silly) confirmation/answer they made about, who dies and who not dies at Armageddon.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in A LETTER TO AN ELDER   
    FAILED PREDICTIONS, CONTRIVED DOCTRINE AND SELF-FOCUS…G Jackson, spoke about the organization’s failed predictions.  He said, ‘There were times when they got excited about a certain year or time and the end didn’t come at that time.  Just imagine if you had a watch dog and that dog barks in the middle night, and you get up and there’s nothing there, do you shoot the dog?  It only proves that the dog is doing what you want it to do.  So in a similar way, in enthusiasm we have said things that maybe disappointed others. The faithful slave…keeps us alert.  When that day comes, when Jesus brings destruction on this wicked system of things… where do you want to be?’ 
    We do not want to be found “eating” from a tree that produces “bad fruit” – failed predictions, contrived doctrine.  “A good tree CANNOT bear bad fruit, and a bad tree CANNOT bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”  Matt 7:18,19 
    Does his example of the watch dog “prove” that the leadership is keeping alert?   No.  It proves only one thing:
    “As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly.”  Ps 26:11 
    We definitely do not want to be connected with fools, who’s fruit of the lips give praise to another father, other than the Almighty God.  (Heb 13:15)  (John 8:44)
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in A LETTER TO AN ELDER   
    The letters below are an exchange between an elder and a past member of the organization, an anointed priest under Christ’s headship. The elder’s first sentence echoes the belief that only the Wt will lead people into “truth”, and “who” are doing the leading.  As one member here recently said to an ex-JW, “ but you haven't suggested an alternate location/theology whereby Christians can come together and build up their faith on a regular basis.”
    Please consider the reply to the elder.
     
    From the elder:
    My dear Rachel
    The "who" today would be the faithful slave as mentioned in Matthew 24:45. These Brothers have taught us the truth about Jehovah, Jesus the Trinity, Hell Fire, the Soul and I could go on and on. Again I say you offer no alternative. Not only spiritual truths, but that faithful slave spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year in relief aid to people in need. As for you and your "group" Jesus well described you in Matthew 25:26 as "wicked and sluggish". You offer no words of comfort, you offer no words of hope, only criticism of those whos sole mission is to help others strengthen their faith.
    Take the time to examine the history of God's people on earth. Jehovah has always brought them together as an organization. He has done the same today with the only organization that fulfills the commission at Matthew 24:14 to PREACH the GOOD NEWS of GOD'S KINGDOM in all the INHABITED EARTH. Name 1 other church, religion or group that is doing that? NOT ONE. I am praying for the scales to fall off of your eyes and for you to ask Jehovah for guidance and faith.
    A.
    -----My email response----
    It is nice to hear from you again, A. I am very familiar with the interpretation of Matthew 24:14 by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania corporation. Admittedly, I used to defend Watchtower as the only religion that is fulfilling preaching the good news, and boasted in them being the “channel” used by God, this “mountain-like” organization. The equating of Watchtower to God is subtle, but now, obvious. The perception that if one “leaves” Watchtower, one has “left Jehovah,” and is encouraged to “return to Jehovah.”
    You had initially asked what alternative to worship I was offering…you said, “where” else will one go! Perhaps you expected I might offer another organized religion as a replacement. However, bringing attention to John 6:68, Simon Peter did not ask Jesus where to go, but rhetorically asked Jesus, “to whom would we go?” You have the words of eternal life.” In your last email, you claimed that the “who” spoken of in John 6:68 is referring to the “faithful slave,” the eight leaders of the Watchtower religious organization that teach “the truth.” Jesus is “truth” (John 14:6).
    Let’s first consider the ancient nation of Israel, and the covenant between them and God. According to the pattern Moses was shown, only priests were permitted to minister in the temple sanctuary (Ex.25:9,40; 26:30). The nation of Israel however, time and again, became wayward, and engaged in idolatry setting up and worshiping images (1 Kings 11:4,5; 2 Kings 17:7-18; Isa.59:1,2; Jer.3:7-10), and at times, ignoring the priesthood arrangement whereby not consecrated individuals engaged in priestly duties, something also strictly forbidden (2 Chron.23:6; 26:16; 1 Sam.6:1-23).
     Of course, the old covenant was made obsolete, replaced by the new covenant with Jesus as high priest (Luke 22:20; Heb.8:1,13; 2 Cor.3:6). But why is the old covenant relevant? Because the old covenant was a “copy and shadow” of the better promise, the kingdom of heaven eternal priesthood that comprises the kingdom of heaven made certain through the blood of Christ, the final redemption (Acts 13:32; Heb.8:5,6, 10-12; 9:15; Gal.3:13).
    This is important to remember when we talk about the gospel of the kingdom/good news spoken in Matthew 24:14 because the “good news” is not novel. Throughout the Old Testament, the “good news” was delivered as a prophetic message to the nation of Israel by prophets chosen and sent by God. When we examine the pattern of “good news,” we find that it is a message of judgment by God on Israel because they broke their covenant, but also of peace through God’s promise of restoration of a repentant remnant, returning to their cities and land and rebuilding of the temple (Nahum 1:15; Isaiah 40:9; 41:27; 52:7; 61:1; Zech.13:8,9; Isa.44:28; Jer.31).
    The good news prophetically foretold the future fulfillment of God’s promise to “make a new covenant with the house of Israel” where God will put His “law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts,” forgiving “their iniquities” and remembering “their sins no more” (Jer.31:31-34; Heb.8:6-13). Now, notice the same message of good news proclaimed by John the Baptist, Jesus, and the apostles.
    “Before the arrival of Jesus,” John the Baptist “preached a baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel” (Acts 13:24), “for the forgiveness of sins” (Mark 1:1-4; Luke 3:3), instructing the Israelites to believe in Jesus (Matt.3:1-17; Acts 19:4). Afterward, Jesus preached the good news/gospel of the kingdom “first to Jerusalem,” proclaiming peace, and announcing salvation through repentance – the better promise, the “kingdom of heaven,” was “at hand”/”near” (Luke 24:47; Eph.2:17; Mark 1:14; Matt.4:17; Luke 16:16; 8:1; John 16:33).
    It was first to the House of Israel, the Jewish people who were under the old covenant that Jesus, “the Lamb of God,” was sent, to take away “the sins of the world” (John 1:29; Mark 1:38; Acts 13:23). The “world” that hated Jesus and hated his disciples was not the entire world/system, but the Jewish system led by Jewish religious leaders (John 17:15,16; John 15:18-19; 18:36). If the Jews repented and received God’s Son, they would receive grace, be freed from the transgression of the law, and receive the “better promise,” of which they were in line to receive as natural heirs (John 3:16,17; Acts 2:38,39; Eph.2:8,9).
    God’s promises to Abraham’s descendants spoke of an inheritance of land with boundaries/territories they would inhabit (Gen.15:18-21; Josh.13 through 21). Notice the Israelites were prophesied to “be a land,” (Mal.3:12), a “land that will be his bride” (Isa.62:4). Whose bride? Jesus’, as he is head of his bride congregation, “new Jerusalem” (Rev.21:2,9; 19:7-9; John 3:29).
    With repentance and faith in Christ, “the lost sheep of Israel,” would inherit the better promise, the kingdom of heaven, not a literal land with a rebuilding of a literal temple/Jerusalem (Matt.24:14; 25:1; 10:5-7; Heb.7:22; 8:6; 11:13-16; 12:24; Gal.3:18). But, even Jerusalem’s temple priests refused to accept the spiritual promise. They were physical, desiring to hold onto their positions of prominence in the physical temple, boasting in their Jewish lineage, being Abraham’s descendants, natural heirs (John 8:33,39; Matt.3:9). They rejected the better promise, and so Jesus said, “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it” (Matt.21:43).
    Nation? What nation? Well, notice after Jesus’ death, the apostles continued to proclaim the message of good news to the Israelites (Rom.10:16; Acts 13:46; 14:7,15,21; 28:23,31; 1 Cor.9:16,18; Heb.4:2; Gal.1:8,11), a message they continued to reject (Rom.10:16; Acts 13:46; 14:7,15,21; 28:23,31; 1 Cor.9:16,18; Heb.4:2; Gal.1:8,11; Rom.10:1-4).
    Regarding his preaching to the Israelites, Paul said he had preached to “all the earth, and to the ends of the world” (Rom.10:18). Did he mean that he preached the good news throughout the whole globe? No, he meant that the gospel had been thoroughly preached to all the “earth”/a dwelling/occupied land, the natural heirs to the kingdom of God, the Israelites, within their “world”/religious system (Rom.10:16-21; Heb.3:6). The kingdom of God, now, no longer comprised of only the tribes of natural Hebrew-speaking Jewish people, but to “every nation, from all tribes and peoples and language,” extending to God-fearing Gentiles who upon accepting the gospel and repenting, would receive God’s mercy (Acts 13:46; Rev.7:9; Acts 10:35; 13:26,46-48; Rom.1:5; Gal.2:2,8).
    God told Abraham, “In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice” (Gen.22:18). Now, individuals from all nations would be called to become “fellow heirs, fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus” (Eph.3:6; Acts 13:32-42, 46; Rom.10:16-19; 1 Pet.2:10; Rev.5:9,10). Paul said that this was the mystery of the good news revealed to him, that “the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus” (Eph.3:3,6).
    The “glorious riches of this mystery” is not a physical temple, but “Christ in you, the hope of glory” (Col.1:26,27). “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise” (Gal.3:29). Paul said this mystery had been “kept secret since the world began” (Rom.16:25). Since the actual “world” began? Remember, this reference refers to a religious system, and Paul, just as Jesus, was referring to the present Jewish system (Eph.3:6; Gen.17:7).
    This promised kingdom of heaven was likened, by Jesus, to a seed, “a mustard seed that a man planted” in his field (Matt.13:31; Luke 13:19)…seeds that when planted, grow in either good soil, rocky or shallow soil, or among thorns (Matt.13:3-8). Who is the farmer? Jesus said he “is the true vine” and his “Father is the gardener” (John 15:1). As a Farmer, God cultivates the “earth” planting “seeds,” but not all seeds grow to be “healthy trees,” trees that bear healthful fruit, some become “diseased trees” bearing bad fruit (Matt.7:17-20). Seeds that grow into good trees do not bear bad fruit, “nor does a bad tree bear good fruit” (Luke 6:43). How will you recognize whether a “tree,” one “of the earth”/heir to the kingdom, is producing “fine fruit”? Jesus said “by their fruit,” you will recognize them (Matt.7:20). Now, fruit is likened to “lips,” so we discern that a “diseased tree”/false teacher/false prophet will be recognized by their sayings/teachings/failed predictions (Matt.7:16-20; John 15:1-17; Heb.13:1; Deut.18:20-22). Matthew 7:16 quoted from the Amplified Bible says it concisely: “By their fruit you will recognize them [that is, by their contrived doctrine and self-focus]…”.
    “See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and late rains” (James 5:7). God is patiently waiting to see whether His children, those of the earth, will remain attached to His son, “the vine,” and “bear much fruit,” truthful teachings that last, not rot and expire (John 15:1-8,16).
    Now we must ask ourselves, were the prophecies, the promise of inheritance, that God’s people would receive a multi-billion dollar religious organization/compound to live on? Jesus had “no place to lay his head,” (Matt. 8:20), and the apostle Paul rented a house (Acts 28:30). Jesus could have easily directed a physical temple/religious structure be set up to restore pure worship, but did he? No, The temple Jesus spoke about was “temple of his body,” a “spiritual house, a holy priesthood,” “God’s building” constructed of “living stones” (John 2:21; 1 Cor.3:9; 1 Pet.2:5).
    The gospel of God is a priestly service, one that is carried out by those sanctified by the Holy Spirit to “minister” in “the priestly service of the gospel of God” (John 15:16; Rom.15:16). Who chooses such ones to perform the priestly service? God Himself selects those who are “built together to become a dwelling place which God lives by his Spirit,” the people He formed to proclaim His praises and to give testimony (Isa.43:10,21; Rev.12:10,11; Eph.2:22; 1 Pet.2:9).
    Not all will be able to understand what Jesus is saying, not even all who are spiritual heirs (Matt.16:4). Why? They do “not accept the things of the Spirit of God” and “cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned” (1 Cor.2:14). “Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time?” (Luke 12:56) Without spiritual discernment, one will be as a “natural man,” and will falsely apply physical interpretations to the spiritual signs given by Jesus (Luke 17:20-24; 11:29; Matt.12:39; 2 Cor.4:18).
    You asked me to name one group that has preached the good news worldwide. Who has convinced you that God backslid on His “better promise” of a new covenant, established since Christ’s death, and demanded that his spiritual temple be a physical organization? That would be exactly the pattern of backsliding ancient Israel engaged in, a form of idolatry (Jer.3:11-22)! “However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands…” (Acts 7:48). “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands” (Acts 17:24). “What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.” (2 Cor.6:16).
    There are members of the body that together, uphold Jesus’ truthful teachings and do preach the good news worldwide...not connected to a physical organized religion (John 15:16). Remember, the prophetic message of peace was proclaimed announcing good news that a remnant of ancient Israel would repent of their rebelliousness and idolatry and restore their covenant with God (2 Chron.29:6; 36:14; Ezra 9:7; Neh.1:6; Ezek.11:14-20). “These things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whims the end of ages has come” (1 Cor.10:11,12). Despite this warning, in the last days, God’s household/spiritual Israel (Rom.2:28; 9:6; Phil.3:3) will “harden their hearts” and be “deceived by sin” (Heb.3:12-19). The spiritual priesthood is replaced, silenced, and trampled by those not consecrated to perform spiritual sacrifices (Matt.24:15,16; 2 Thess.2:1-4). Yet, a final remnant of spiritual Israel will repent, leave their idolatrous ways, and through the sacrifice of the “Lamb of God,” restore the “body of Christ” (Rev.2:5; 12:11). This is the good news!
    If you want to follow a group of eight anointed that have become rebellious and created a physical organization, replacing the eternal priesthood with non-spirit anointed Gentiles, destroying His temple, stay, it is your choice! But be warned, if you stay, you WILL share in her sins (Rev.18:4; Ezek.44:6-9; Zech.4:6,7; Heb.8:5; 1 Cor.3:17).
    “Repent, for the Kingdom of heavens is near” (Matt.4:17).
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    The last servant/s sent by Jesus, preach truth (“two”, John 8:17) in “sackcloth”.  Their message concerns the spiritual Temple given over to the Gentiles.  (2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1-3) How clear this is, as the elder body “represents the royal priesthood”/dwelling of God (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17); and as the GB admonishes, the authentic priesthood must not “bond”, they must not gather to study God’s Word.  This is the behavior of the antichrist, by preventing the members of Christ’s body to join under their head.  “Against Christ”, and those members of his body. 
    Yes, God’s servants who speak as I do, experience overwhelming grief, and Satan makes sure of it.  They reveal what God’s saints are up against – the captivity to what appeared to be truth, and which tasted “sweet” in their mouths as God’s Word (Ps 119:103; Ezek 3:1-3), but for those awake, they find it “bitter” in the stomach. The mix of false teachings with a little truth can only be swallowed, when one is continually “drunk” on this false prophet/Harlot’s wine -  her concoction of poisoned “waters”/teachings.  (Rev 17:1,2; 8:10,11; 13:11,12)  John received this sweet/bitter scroll from the angel/messenger, and is then told,  “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages, and kings.”  Rev 10:8-10
    The kings are those that should join under Christ. These are whom he is concerned about, not the nations of “kings” on the political fronts (Rev 1:5).  All JWs, are people from all nations and languages.   
    These truths are only evident to those whose hearts desire to have the veil taken from their eyes. The impressed motto to “wait on Jehovah” to fix any glitches that JWs may actually discern, defines their “peace and security” derived from “Jehovah’s organization”.  1 Thess 5:3 They are told to put their anxious thoughts aside, and keep faith in "Jehovah's organization" - what a strong delusion this is.  (2 Thess 2:9-12)
    “Therefore, since we have this ministry because we were shown mercy, we do not give up. 2 Instead, we have renounced secret and shameful things, not acting deceitfully or distorting the word of God, but commending ourselves before God to everyone’s conscience by an open display of the truth. 3 But if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 In their case, the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For we are not proclaiming ourselves but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’s sake. 6 For God who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of God’s glory in the face of Jesus Christ.”  2 Cor 4:1-6
    Wt’s damage control, ever being processed, is now the videos to be produced about Jesus.  Of course!  JWs can then say, see?  We uphold and give honor to the Son of God. 
    No. 
    Paul’s message to the members of Christ’s body…
    For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy, because I have promised you in marriage to one husband—to present a pure virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your minds may be seduced from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if a person comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or you receive a different spirit, which you had not received, or a different gospel, which you had not accepted, you put up with it splendidly!  2 Cor 12:2-4
    And that describes the Wt.  All inside, including the anointed members of Jesus, give devotion to a wicked slave, the elder body and the organization, that no other earthly organization can defeat.  (Rev 13:4)  
     The cry that is being trumpeted, is “come out of her my people" - to stop tolerating the sins of the Wt. Rev 18:4-8
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    Xero, the end time prophesies concern “Israel”, not the world at large.  They concern all JWs who reside with the anointed.  You, they, the anointed priests, are held in “captivity”. (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)  You may not believe this, or you choose to ignore it;  but if you look at the results of disfellowshipping, what does it do? What type of power does it hold over everyone inside?   What harm is committed by this one act?  No matter the sin, the judgment by men who are not anointed, is the same.  How many have committed suicide by being cut off from family?  Do you agree this is a “loving provision”?  How many people would rather fade, and not lose their family?  How many people are disfellowshipped who have not sinned against God, but refuse to swallow down the GB’s falsehoods; and out of love for their own, speak loud and clear against a wicked slave, as they try to draw whomever they can, out of the blind "captivity" that they can now visualize as a road leading to destruction?  (Matt 24:48-51)
    How many people choose to follow Jesus Christ and reveal the sins of the leadership of their own people, just as Jesus did? Jesus was bold in expressing God's Words given to him.  Shouldn't all of us put the words of Christ above the words of men?  But, when they do, they are persecuted as he was by their own people.  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15)   The anointed in the organization should uphold God's Word over your leadership's foolish "new light", and some have.  Among those that have, are some joining ranks and preaching the “good news” of the restoration of “Jacob”.  They are preaching the need for repentance of idolatry to an organization. (Exod 20:4,5; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:8,4)
    What is sad, is that someone like you cannot see how you play the part in “trampling” God’s holy saints/His priests. You have power over them, and you can't see this? You carry the ability to JUDGE God's holy people. (Rom 14:4) Did God tell the GB to do this? Would He ever put someone else in charge of His "special possession"? Would He ever allow anyone other than priests to serve in His Temple?  (Ezek 44:6-9)  Or, are His people expected to teach and serve the people as we see in the scriptures accomplished by the apostles?  (Mal 2:7; Eph 3:2-5)  (2 Thess 2:3,4,8,9; Rev 11:1-3,7; Rev 13:1,2,5-7) The warning must be given, and the warning will continue until the entire organization is gone. (Zech 4:7-10; Rev 8:8,9)  It is a counterfeit of the true Zion - the "organization"/Temple of God.  (Isa 2:2-5; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  It is up to each one of you to “decide”; but no one can, unless both sides are made clear.  (Joel 3:14-17; Rev 14:6-12; 18:4-8)  This is the essence of the great tribulation and Armageddon - a war of truth against lies.   (Eph 6:10-17
     
    “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
    21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
    Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes." Matt 10:16-23
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    Yes, most certainly an elder chasing after someone who disagrees with GB/organization policy, is a toxic behavior.
     
    Who Are the Locusts?
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Please re-read my remark:
    ”If things are as JWs say they are, then they are providing a nice friendly heads-up and ought to be thanked on that account. 
    If they are not as JWs say they are, then no harm is done to anyone. JWs are left with egg on their face and they are willing to take that risk.
    Either way it is not something to get all histrionic about.”
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    WTJWorg scholars and GB, they have constructed and deconstructed “various truths” in the last 140 years of existence.  
     
     
    I don’t remember God decreing anywhere that only the “good” would be “happy”. And that the "evil" will die "unhappy." In other words, to claim what the WT article claims, that the "wicked" are only "outwardly" happy (superficial happiness), is nonsense.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    You went in other/different direction with conclusion, than me. She is willing to accept a “truth” that is the opposite of a JW “truth”. WTJWorg does not accept anyone's "truth", but only its "truth".
    Also, WTJWorg says how people who think and believe and accept all sorts of "truths" (like her), but not WTJWorg "truths" will dye in Armageddon. By that she will end up in "soon" Armageddon. Will you or other JW's try to help her to see "the truth" and be "saved" by joining the Organization? Or you (JW's) will just stay away and be satisfied that she wrote an article in your favor? Will you make the effort and try to free her from the Cesnur trap? :)) 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I disagree with this view. I don't feel "wronged" by WTJWorg or with my former belongings. Because they didn't "wronged" me (in strict sense) but they "wronged" things we call; truth, honesty, justice etc. And only after that we can say they "wronged" somebody personally (or individually/collectively), if such person/collective value things such as truth, honesty, justice etc.   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    And this doesn't apply to your GB?  Or, the doctrine that they teach that is false?  The false hope that the organization  they serve, and JWs with them, will lead everyone to salvation?    Or, JWs, especially pioneers (not those who are in jail at the moment) who believe they live "the best life ever"?  Do they add that footnote to the video about living the best life ever for those who may watch the video while lounging in prison?  Or, do they know the video exists?  What irony, right?  The best life ever and the worst life ever are both found in your organization; all based on servitude to men.  
    Believe me, it applies 100 percent to the GB who say, "do you shoot the dog?" for getting their predictions wrong.   
    Their undeniable happiness is in what Satan promised those who "worship" him in exchange for prominence, power and riches.  You have been deceived.  Luke 4:6-8
    Not even Watchtower's leaders.  We should avoid  the obvious treacherous hearts.
    Summoning the crowd, he told them, “Listen and understand: 11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth—this defiles a person.”
    12 Then the disciples came up and told him, “Do you know that the Pharisees took offense when they heard what you said?”
    13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted. 14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”  Matt 15:10-13
    So, what if a JW went up to G. Jackson and stated those scriptures after he gave his talk, pleading not to shoot the dog?  I doubt that it will go well for the one who spoke Christ's words.  In that respect, that person will learn who lords it over them.  
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    Well, I’ve been on another forum and found this snippet from your Wt. study tomorrow and the opening comment:
    “Tomorrow's WT. They're going to lap up this paragraph. One thing I hate, all of us who have left and are truly happy away from the organization and prospering are called wicked and our happiness superficial. Makes me sick 🤮”

    I just had share my comment with 26 others (and added to by the minute) who have left the organization:
    Oh man. JWs will definitely drink down this poison. (Heb 12:15; Rev 8:10,11)
    "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." Isa 5:20
    This is an organization built on lies, false prophesies, child abuse and exploitation committed by its leaders. It has trampled the anointed priesthood with its own bogus “priesthood” – the elder body. (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4); Rev 11:1,2)
    Of course, it would be this evil element that would state, “let us never envy wicked people who seem to prosper”.  Our best example of this? The GB.
    "Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight." Isa 5:21
    The writer of Ps 73 spoke of envying the wicked, the arrogant of Israel.  But he found it to be a trap. (Matt 24:4,5,23,24; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:10)  Spiritual “Israel” in the anointed today, is led by the GB, whom we have come to understand as with all leaders of the WT, are part of “Israel”.
    I think we can easily see the comparison of the wicked of ancient Israel, to today's WT leaders:
    “They have an easy time until they die, and their bodies are well fed. 
    5 They are not in trouble like others; they are not afflicted like most people. 
    6 Therefore, pride is their necklace, and violence covers them like a garment. 
    7 Their eyes bulge out from fatness; the imaginations of their hearts run wild.
     8 They mock, and they speak maliciously; they arrogantly threaten oppression. 
    9 They set their mouths against heaven, and their tongues strut across the earth.
     10 Therefore His people turn to them and drink in their overflowing words. 
    11 The wicked say, “How can God know? Does the Most High know everything?”
     12 Look at them—the wicked! They are always at ease, and they increase their wealth." Ps 73:4-12
     
    When you see the GB deposed, dismissed, disfellowshipped, you'll physically perceive the beginning of God's intervention.
    Jer 13:25-27; Nahum 3:4-6; Rev 17:15-18 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+13%3A25-27%3B+Nahum+3%3A4-6%3B+Rev+17%3A15-18 &version=CSB
    Who are the "kings of the earth" of Rev 17:18? - The anointed under their King, Jesus Christ.  Rev 1:5 When you read Revelation, this makes a total difference in its meaning, and who it is addressed to.  
     
    A Great Deception
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    Babylon was a gold cup in the Lord’s hand;
        she made the whole earth drunk
    The nations drank her wine;
        therefore they have now gone mad.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from xero in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    Globalism of all sorts :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    By what you, and what @4Jah2me continue to lay out on the table, proves that this people, this organization that taught me truth was logical...that the organizational arrangement is logical...proves their "logic", their "truth",  is nothing but illogical insanity.  
    Jer 51:7; Rev 18:4-8
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    I found interesting claims on JWorg about GB. 
    The Governing Body is a small group of mature Christians who provide direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. Their work is twofold:
    They oversee the preparation of Bible-based instruction through the publications, meetings, and schools of Jehovah’s Witnesses.—Luke 12:42.
    They supervise the worldwide work of Jehovah’s Witnesses by directing our public ministry and overseeing the use of donated assets.
    The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization.
    The Governing Body has established six committees to oversee various aspects of our work, and each member serves on one or more of these committees. - https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body-jw-helpers/
    Committees job is to: ... supervises ...oversees...directs)
    I found this claims about "non leadership" status in WTJWorg confusing and is semantic dodge. Article says;  GB are not leaders. But their roles are explained with terminology that supports leadership position. They oversee, they supervise, they make important decisions. :))  
    And now we have 2 quotes:
    Today, the Governing Body represents the faithful and discreet slave class. There was a similar arrangement in the first century. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2009443
    It seems how FDS is "represented by" two Administration bodies: with GB and with Elders. And controversy going further with this statements:
    The faithful slave must be made up of anointed Christians on earth. Such ones are called “a royal priesthood” .......It is only fitting that members of that “royal priesthood” have a direct share in teaching fellow believers the truth.-  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20130715/who-is-faithful-discreet-slave/
    :)) and also tragic theology for JW members.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    The thing to keep coming back to regarding CSA is the 25 year JW Pedophile Database hidden somewhere in the Org. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Western Today: Of course this is a matter of perspective, but in your view as a religious scholar, is there such a thing as a “bad religion?”
    HF: "'Bad Religion' is a rock band from Los Angeles! Seriously, let me say that religions of all sizes and faith traditions do things all the time that I personally don’t like. But it is important to distinguish between the criminal, the ethical and the aesthetic. In both mainstream and marginal religions, things may happen that are unethical but are not technically illegal. And a religion may have beliefs or practices that I, or you, might personally find distasteful, but to which members have no objection. These are important differentiations in thinking about the behavior of a controversial group.
    We also need to distinguish things done by individuals who belong to a religion and acts committed by members at their religion’s direction. This is important for both fairness, and to accurately understand the way violence can occur in religious settings. Statistically, the majority of Americans are either Roman Catholic or Protestant. And so it’s technically accurate to say most murderers in the United States are either Catholic or Protestant. But it would be a stretch to argue that these religions were encouraging members to commit murder.
    There have definitely been instances where members of religions have committed violent crimes. Yet in some of the most inflammatory cases, like the Peoples Temple, the Order of the Solar Temple, and Aum Shinrikyo, the majority of lower-ranking members were not aware of the destructiveness perpetrated by an elite hierarchy. I think these instances hold an important insight for your question – it means that in even the most controversial religions, many if not most believers will not be “dangerous.” This definitely needs to shape how we think of religious difference." - https://westerntoday.wwu.edu/features/cults-new-christianities-and-religious-persecution-in-the-internet-age-a-qa-with-holly-folk
    When you or some other JW member seek/use statements from other people who defend the WTJWorg position on one issue, then you must be aware that that same person is defending the position of other religions, against which the WTJWorg has a lot to say.
    The tolerance of HF is greater than the tolerance of JW members and GB have to other religions. :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I like this guy a lot, expecially the way he takes the time to think about these things   
    Is it so important ? If so why ?    Jesus said no one know the day or the hour, so why are you counting years right now ? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    I found interesting claims on JWorg about GB. 
    The Governing Body is a small group of mature Christians who provide direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. Their work is twofold:
    They oversee the preparation of Bible-based instruction through the publications, meetings, and schools of Jehovah’s Witnesses.—Luke 12:42.
    They supervise the worldwide work of Jehovah’s Witnesses by directing our public ministry and overseeing the use of donated assets.
    The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization.
    The Governing Body has established six committees to oversee various aspects of our work, and each member serves on one or more of these committees. - https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body-jw-helpers/
    Committees job is to: ... supervises ...oversees...directs)
    I found this claims about "non leadership" status in WTJWorg confusing and is semantic dodge. Article says;  GB are not leaders. But their roles are explained with terminology that supports leadership position. They oversee, they supervise, they make important decisions. :))  
    And now we have 2 quotes:
    Today, the Governing Body represents the faithful and discreet slave class. There was a similar arrangement in the first century. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2009443
    It seems how FDS is "represented by" two Administration bodies: with GB and with Elders. And controversy going further with this statements:
    The faithful slave must be made up of anointed Christians on earth. Such ones are called “a royal priesthood” .......It is only fitting that members of that “royal priesthood” have a direct share in teaching fellow believers the truth.-  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20130715/who-is-faithful-discreet-slave/
    :)) and also tragic theology for JW members.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Upbringing. It is a difficult task for parents.
    There are also mistakes in methods and types of lessons. Lessons on how to react and how to show emotions. How to stand up for another/each other and how to stand up for yourself.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Parents protect your children in the JW Org.   
    Man who sexually exploited girl (13) jailed for 18 months
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-who-sexually-exploited-girl-13-jailed-for-18-months-1.4488735
     
    A man who sexually exploited a 13-year-old girl has been jailed for 18 months.   The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of the victim, was 29 when he met the girl through their mutual association with a local Jehovah’s Witness congregation.  Dublin Circuit Criminal Court heard that over a period of time in 2016 he and the girl exchanged messages on Viber, including sexually explicit images of the child. The man, now aged 34 and with an address in Dublin, pleaded guilty to sexual exploitation of a child on dates in late 2016. He also admitted possession of sexually explicit images of the child, contrary to the Child Pornography and Trafficking Act, 1998.
    The offending came to light when the girl’s older sister spotted the messages and semi-naked images on a shared computer device and alerted their mother........... He said that anything other than kissing or hugging in advance of getting married was not permitted and could lead to excommunication. He said that after his arrest and interview, his client went to “church elders” and self-reported his actions and was excommunicated for a period.
    was excommunicated for a period.  This means he is not d/fed now I suppose, so is back in the congregation. Parents beware, look after your children in the congregations of JW org. 
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    There is an anointed body, that must not be separated from one another.  1 Cor chapter 12
    But what you see taking place in the Wt;  what you take part in, and what you believe as elders having full authority to rule over all, even the anointed, is an acceptable teaching...from superfine apostles. (Matt 24:48-51)
     “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. (Hebrews 13:7,17) How can that be?  w02 8/1 p. 13-14
    These scriptures in Hebrews apply to the anointed body and their gifts, positions assigned to them by God as outlined in Eph 4:7-16.  However, Eph 4:7,8 is applied to you and your fellow elders instead.  This is verified in your magazines.
    Were you appointed by Holy Spirit to be an elder?  Is this why you cross your fingers behind your back when approached by other elders for your rogue actions? 
    The crowns are worn by the elders in the organization – not by the anointed – not in the Wt. You have power over them, to judge them as spiritually “dead”.  (Rev 13:11,12,15)  Their status as God’s priests has been robbed from them, and given to the elders. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)  Although gathered/surrounded by a spurious rule over them, they are “scattered” throughout the congregations.  They have been taken spiritually captive, to lies.  Col 2:8; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16
    You can either support the lie and continue to relish your position of lording it over the anointed, or you recognize them as God's genuine dwelling of Holy Spirit, and break the bonds of falsehoods  (1 Cor 3:16,17)
    Do you know who the Wt. says are the locust swarm in Revelation 9?  It states these locusts are the anointed, with a stinging message. This is a lie.  This huge army comes against the anointed who have not been sealed in the heavens - the anointed under elder rule.  (Rev 9:3,4; 7:4)
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    I know a JW brother who has done regular pioneering service for years without an appointment. But he wanted that appointment so badly, and the elders refused to give it to him. One year (1985) he went to Belgrade, then there was the Chief Bethel for Yugoslavia. After talks with the main representative, Brother Miloš, the Zagreb elders and Zagreb's Bethel were influenced, and he was finally appointed.
    :)))
    One elder in ex congregation doing similar. He came to a meeting for FS, gave a speech and then went home or for some other job :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from xero in WATCHTOWER, 1991 - "HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT RELIGION"   
    I didn't say that about you. :))   
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