Srecko Sostar

They all are "prominent" but one is more "prominent", and not just "prominent" :)))
 

Where did the original information come from ?    I'm in England so don't know if I'll be 'allowed' to view it. some things are blocked from UK viewing. 

Well, they've already downplayed Jesus.  It seems to me that if any governing body member was dismissed, it would be ...edit...Kenneth Cook, who has always seemed to be a round peg in a square hole.  We barely see him in the videos.  If any were to display one shred of humility, it would be him.   But the description of the video points out that it is one of the prominent governing body members.  Not really sure what that means.

It is telling me that it will play in 2 hours, which would be 5:00 EST.  You can be alerted when the program starts.  I guess we'll know then if it is valid.

1 - EXPLANATION FOR PUBLIC
Frequently Asked Questions - https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-bible-study/
Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?
No, you are not obligated in any way. Millions enjoy our Bible study program without becoming Jehovah’s Witnesses. * The purpose of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you. We recognize that faith is a personal matter.
Why do you study with people who don’t join your faith?
Our primary motive is love for Jehovah God,......We feel that there is no greater privilege than to be “God’s fellow workers” in helping people to learn what his Word teaches.— We are also motivated by love for our neighbors. -- We find joy in sharing with others the wonderful things we have learned.—.
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2 - INSTRUCTIONS FOR JW MEMBERS
How to Conduct a Bible Study That Leads to Baptism—Part Two - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/How-to-Conduct-a-Bible-Study-That-Leads-to-Baptism-Part-Two/
THE disciple-making work is a lifesaving work! How do we know? When Jesus gave the command that is recorded at Matthew 28:19, 20, he said: “Go, . . . make disciples . . . , baptizing them.” ......To make disciples, we need to develop the “art of teaching.”....But as noted in the preceding article, we want to know how we can help more of them to become baptized disciples of Jesus Christ.  Teachers must show genuine, personal interest in their students. View them as your future spiritual brothers or sisters. It is not easy for them to give up friends in the world and to make all the necessary changes to serve Jehovah. We need to help them find true friends in the congregation. Talk openly about Christian dedication and baptism. After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple. Within a few months of having a regular Bible study and especially after beginning to attend meetings, the student should understand that the purpose of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
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Well, let us repeat what looks like two explanations on JWorg web. First, explanatory sentence for PUBLIC! 
1) THE PURPOSE of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches.
Now, as second explanation, JW MEMBERS are reminded WHAT is purpose of Bible Study.
2)  After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple....the student should understand that THE PURPOSE of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
 

1 - EXPLANATION FOR PUBLIC
Frequently Asked Questions - https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-bible-study/
Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?
No, you are not obligated in any way. Millions enjoy our Bible study program without becoming Jehovah’s Witnesses. * The purpose of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you. We recognize that faith is a personal matter.
Why do you study with people who don’t join your faith?
Our primary motive is love for Jehovah God,......We feel that there is no greater privilege than to be “God’s fellow workers” in helping people to learn what his Word teaches.— We are also motivated by love for our neighbors. -- We find joy in sharing with others the wonderful things we have learned.—.
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2 - INSTRUCTIONS FOR JW MEMBERS
How to Conduct a Bible Study That Leads to Baptism—Part Two - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/How-to-Conduct-a-Bible-Study-That-Leads-to-Baptism-Part-Two/
THE disciple-making work is a lifesaving work! How do we know? When Jesus gave the command that is recorded at Matthew 28:19, 20, he said: “Go, . . . make disciples . . . , baptizing them.” ......To make disciples, we need to develop the “art of teaching.”....But as noted in the preceding article, we want to know how we can help more of them to become baptized disciples of Jesus Christ.  Teachers must show genuine, personal interest in their students. View them as your future spiritual brothers or sisters. It is not easy for them to give up friends in the world and to make all the necessary changes to serve Jehovah. We need to help them find true friends in the congregation. Talk openly about Christian dedication and baptism. After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple. Within a few months of having a regular Bible study and especially after beginning to attend meetings, the student should understand that the purpose of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
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Well, let us repeat what looks like two explanations on JWorg web. First, explanatory sentence for PUBLIC! 
1) THE PURPOSE of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches.
Now, as second explanation, JW MEMBERS are reminded WHAT is purpose of Bible Study.
2)  After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple....the student should understand that THE PURPOSE of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
 

GB has a problem with how to incorporate some biblical concepts into the workings of the WT JWorg Organization. The term “holy spirit” occupies one of the three most significant places (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) that can be read about in the Bible.
1) Is the explanation of who or what the holy spirit is properly explained in WTJWorg theology?
2) WTJWorg argues that the workings of the Holy Spirit in the past and today are quite different when it comes to the manner and type of "communication" between “Heaven and Earth”.
3) Why does WTJWorg have trouble with the term/word "inspired"?                                                          4)They say, the WTJWorg Organization and the JW people in the organization are not "inspired by the spirit," but they are "guided by the spirit," "the spirit helps them," the spirit leads them, "the spirit empowered them," "spirit teaches them" and so on. What is the difference?

Pretty much what all JWs do. "Don't confuse me with facts! Just tell me what to think!"

@JW Insider is this actual "news" that I'm not aware of yet? Or what am I missing?
@Witness Is there any proof that this is going on right now? Do we know the source?

"Will there be a disfellowshipping? Bethelites are facing a crisis of conscience with the revelation that one of their prominent Governing Body members will no longer be associated with their organization."
Premiers at 4:00 EST
 
 
 
 

2 Cor 5:20 – “We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.”
If the governing leaders of the organization are Christ’s ambassadors of truth, would he allow them to misrepresent his teachings with failed and erroneous doctrine?
The man who made the attached video portrays a simple and logical consequence, prompted by the governing body admitting they are not “inspired” by Holy Spirit. I invite you to consider his good reasoning. 
Despite their admittance to gross errors in teaching, could we determine that they are inspired by another spirit to speak their lies, which would facilitate the need to brush away their proven falsehoods away with deceptive excuses? (Matt 7:15,16; 24:4,5,24,25; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:14,15; 16:13,14) Most certainly their approach to offering “nourishing spiritual food” would not be approved by Jesus, who expects those whom he sends as his ambassadors, to produce “fruit”/teachings that are built upon – light upon light - not replaced, not chucked into the garbage heap, where numerous books published by the organization are periodically ending up.   (Eccl 12:11-14)
 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.”  John 15:16
Since Jesus is life, light and truth, his teachings provide us with a clear path of understanding. (John 8:12; 14:6;1 John 1:7;5:20)  His ambassadors representing his truth, must do the same; which is to lead their hearers directly to Jesus and his teachings. (Ps 119:160; John 1:17; John 14:16,17; 17:17; 1 Tim 3:15)
 Anyone producing their own doctrine, their own form of “light”, are “ambassadors” of the father of the lie. (John 8:44; 2 Cor 4:1-6; 11:4,13-15)
"The fruit of light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth" (Eph 5:9).
Keep in mind that this is not speaking of literal fruit, but of teaching/words (Matt 12:33-37; 7:20; Heb 13:15)

The acceptable "fruit of light" is the "truth", and is only "goodness". It consists in "all righteousness", never guiding one into wrong thoughts or behavior. 

Such "light" results in life, eternally (John 1:1,4; 8:12; 12:46; Prov 11:30; 10:11; 3:13,18). 
The source of this "fruit of light", is the "Tree of Life", the "Word". 
All its wise "fruit", is "goodness". 

The Bible reveals that Satan's mouth, also bears "fruit"/teachings (Rev 16:13; 12:15; Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:3; 1 Tim 6:20,21; Gen 3:4,5; Rev 2:24; James 3:15).
Just as Jesus is "the way", and his teachings are the road to life; Satan's deceptions are the road which leads to destruction (2 Thess 2:9,10; Matt 7:13; Rev 12:9).
All of Satan's teachings/"fruit" are lies, darkness, error/sin, and they lead to death (John 8:44; Heb 2:14; James 1:15).
To take in knowledge of such evil teachings, is to be deceived. Eve herself obtained this falsely-called knowledge (Gen 3:13; 1 Tim 6:20; 2 Cor 11:14) which resulted in her death (Rom 5:12; Gen 2:17).
Pearl Doxsey
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-original-sin.html
 
 
 

Alas, it is too late for the mask. The poor guy already has Covid.

The only thing they are superior in, is creating deception and distorting truth.  I mean, it has been twisted in every possible way, and through deception it is still accepted as truth!
"I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Men will rise up even from your own number and distort the truth to lure the disciples into following them. 31 Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for three years I never stopped warning each one of you with tears."  Acts 20:29-31
διαστρέφω diastréphō, dee-as-tref'-o; from G1223 and G4762; to distort, i.e. (figuratively) misinterpret, or (morally) corrupt:—perverse(-rt), turn away.
Superiority? No, not for any one of us
 
 

For those JWs who don't believe in 1914, they should read this.   For those JWs who believe Christ was reigning as King when on the earth, they should take note. This is how the organization established itself, on pure lies.   How dare they use Judges 21:25, when scriptures clearly indicate that he was an established king when he came to earth. 
My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”
37 “You are a king then?” Pilate asked.
“You say that I’m a king,” Jesus replied. “I was born for this, and I have come into the world for this: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.”  John 18:36-37
"He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."   Heb 1:3,4
Who would deceive us by saying that Christ didn't become a reigning king until 1914?
Who would desire an earthly kingdom based on the falsehood that Jesus was not reigning for 2,000 years after he was resurrected?
Who offers the kingdoms of this world, with  riches,  prominence and rulership over people?  
Who desired to destroy Christ?
Who desires to destroy the members of his Body?
Look what happened to Stephen when he tried to explain the new way of worship. He was killed, just as what happens to those who try explain  the reign of Christ.  They are termed spiritually "dead" through disfellowshipping - for rejecting an earthly organization.   Disfellowshipping is Satan's way of shutting up the truth about Christ.  The  organization  has created a "world" based on what God rejected - literal "temples" for worship, the choosing of an organizational structure based on earthly matters.  It is filled with blasphemous names and titles -  about itself and its false power and authority over God's anointed.  (Rev 13:1,2)   It is the furthest thing from spiritual righteousness.  It is the enemy of God's spiritual "organization" built on Christ. (1 Cor 12)  Doesn't God and Jesus have the power to know each heart?  Wouldn't they already know who their faithful slaves are and have been over the centuries?   How dare men assume they are superior to Jesus Christ in knowing his servants. 
Look JWs, the organization is Satan's plan to derail God's Kingdom.  You have been deceived. Wickedness has found its pedestal - the "mountainlike organization" that destroys righteousness. 
 
"Then the angel who was speaking with me came forward and told me, “Look up and see what this is that is approaching.”
6 So I asked, “What is it?”
He responded, “It’s a measuring basket that is approaching.” And he continued, “This is their iniquity in all the land.” 7 Then a lead cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. 8 “This is Wickedness,” he said. He shoved her down into the basket and pushed the lead weight over its opening. 9 Then I looked up and saw two women approaching with the wind in their wings. Their wings were like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and sky.
10 So I asked the angel who was speaking with me, “Where are they taking the basket?”
11 “To build a shrine for it in the land of Shinar,” he told me. “When that is ready, the basket will be placed there on its pedestal.”  Zech 5:5-11
While there are anointed outside of the organization who "fight" on the side of Christ - who expose the WT's lies,  the GB "fights" on the side of its own established wickedness.  They haven't returned to "apostolic teachings", but are false apostles who have set a foundation of doctrine outside of scripture.   For the organization and its leaders to exalt its past leadership and its documented vault of lies, shows what king they have chosen to reign over them.   (John 8:42-47)
The anointed are messengers - the Greek meaning of "angel".  What message do those "angels" in the organization bear?  "come to Jehovah's organization for salvation".
What "testimony" is given by Jesus' true servants?
Rev 14:6-12 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+14%3A6-13&version=CSB
I didn't use enough scriptures to back up my words, of which I apologize.   I am responding on emotions against unrighteousness.  The sad thing, I am sure there are JWs who have blocked my comments - out of fear, a power their leaders have over them.  So, they preserve their "life" by choosing lies over truth.   
2 Thess 2:9-12; Matt 10:37-39
 
 
 
 
 
 

As i remember one of WT representatives said exactly that before Court.
In a child abuse case (J Lopez v Watchtower and Bible Tract Society of New York Inc.) in Apr 2016 the WTS claimed the rights of clergy in not producing documentation about the abuse under clergy-penitent privileges (19). Also, in a court case in California in 2012 the attorney for the WTS stated that;
“I am general counsel for the National Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses out of Brooklyn, New York…We are a hierarchical religion structured just like the Catholic Church” (20)
I am in searching for this Court document on internet but am not successful

My grandchildren are coming over in a few minutes, so just finished a snowman.
A few people have already stopped to take a picture of it.
 

Srecko Sostar said:
Exactly. Going from a specific number to a foggy number is NOT a change in their teaching. The foggy number is fully consistent with the old specific number. It was done, as I explained, to deceive the JW rank and file.
Precisely. Liars and cowards, all of them.
The following is the latest WTS statement on the specific length of the "creative days", from the January 1, 1987 Watchtower, p. 30:
<< a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long. >>

For me, I think honesty is always better. Even if a dishonest version of something is easily understood by the majority.

Have you written to the WTS to see why they won't correct this error? The reason the Insight book dismisses it is because the writers believe that it would allow the Jews back in their homeland too early. It's a matter of making the dates work.
Your theory allows the Jews to be back in 538, and that would mean changing the destruction of Jerusalem again, first from 606 to 607, and now to your suggestion of 608.

Always 20 years.

I am not familiar with idea (that some JW believed) how all Universe is created in 6000 years. But remember well how official teachings was changed from: 1 Creation Day is 7000 years, to 1 Creation Day is unknown period.    
Perhaps because of Bible verse how one day before is 1000 years and vice versa, perhaps existed people who believed in 1 Creation Day is 1000 years long.
There is, as we have seen, good reason to believe that the days of creation were each 7,000 years long. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1970123
In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years. - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/
Perhaps it is better to read some science book about how Earth and life on Earth is old, and how Universe is old. :))
 

I am not familiar with idea (that some JW believed) how all Universe is created in 6000 years. But remember well how official teachings was changed from: 1 Creation Day is 7000 years, to 1 Creation Day is unknown period.    
Perhaps because of Bible verse how one day before is 1000 years and vice versa, perhaps existed people who believed in 1 Creation Day is 1000 years long.
There is, as we have seen, good reason to believe that the days of creation were each 7,000 years long. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1970123
In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years. - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/
Perhaps it is better to read some science book about how Earth and life on Earth is old, and how Universe is old. :))
 

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 
The consensus among scientists, astronomers and cosmologists is that the Universe as we know it was created in a massive explosion.
Explosion = Light 
So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs.
Deep sleep = anesthesia .................Took one of the man’s ribs = surgery
Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib
Made a woman from the rib = type of cloning

"The man of sin will come with the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous and wonderful signs. But they will be lies. 10 He will use everything that God disapproves of to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. 11 That’s why God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe a lie. 12 Then everyone who did not believe the truth, but was delighted with what God disapproves of, will be condemned. 2 Thess 2:9-12 GWT
How does God "send" the delusion?  1 Kings chapter 22 gives us an example.

Yes, I hear that word, but translated to mean -
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."  Matt 7:15
Their true identity as wolves appears when we dare question their teachings and their "authority"...as "slaves".  
Jesus said to them, “The kings (elders) of nations  have power over their people, and those in authority call themselves friends of the people. ("beloved GB")  But you’re not going to be that way! Rather, the greatest among you must be like the youngest, and your leader must be like a servant.  Who’s the greatest, the person who sits at the table or the servant? Isn’t it really the person who sits at the table? But I’m among you as a servant."  Luke 22:25-27 GWT