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    Srecko Sostar reacted to admin in Hello by Lionel Richie   
    The music video for Lionel Richie's "Hello" directed by Bob Giraldi, attracts attention as it tells the story of a music teacher (played by Lionel Richie) who falls in love with his blind student.
    "Hello is it me you're looking for?" is quite an insensitive pick up line to use on a blind woman.   Ah, the 80s, when people thought teachers stalking their disabled students was romantic...

       
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    “We Must Obey God as Ruler Rather Than Men” 
    This is something that not sound to me as doctrine. This sound as standpoint. Also we have to take context. Apostle responded with this statement as position on Sanhedrin's command that they must not preaching....about what? Peter and John answered: “We cannot stop speaking about the things we have seen and heard.” 
    Well, this is original context. Some other examples speaking about similar things where JHVH and Jesus' servants refused to do something or have done something. Life has got to be more complexe through centuries, so we have now more explanations and interpretations how should look like today's reality of "obey god rather than man". Even things about education come to be viewed through this sort of glasses. Advice to not going to higher education coming from "spiritual place" as god's instruction through GB. Not obeying counsel/advice/recommendation in this matter is considered as not putting god on first place in life. But contrary, own selfish ambitions. As consequence this could be understand that you listen/obey yourself and not god. 
    About what JW's of today can making claim as apostles did? What things JW today "have seen and heard"  that make their standpoint so firm to obey god as ruler? They have seen and heard only their faith and beliefs. Because they have not seen and heard nothing similar what apostles or first christians experienced.  
    And this is good way how system making doctrines that sounds like "the truth". And after some time you will read new articles with similar explanation :))) ... year after year.
    ● At times there are changes in viewpoint on Biblical subjects discussed in the Watch Tower Society’s publications. We speak of what we believe as “the truth.” But does “truth” change?
    Yes, it changes. Because you believe in new, advanced knowledge. "The Truth" should not to be knowledge, but Principle. Because Principle is older than this what we calling "the Truth". Even in JW understanding when they speaking about something that is so firm and deep, unchangeable, they using word "Principle" not word "Truth". Principles in Old Testament, for example, that stood behind some laws of Moses, are visible in New Testament too. 
    In that context we can talk about Moses Law as "The Truth". Perhaps old Israel people used same or similar wording to describe what they think and feel about God' Words. But this kind of "Truth" and their "Truth" are gone. (Not completely, because we have Israel of today.) So, "The Truth" was changed, even more, with time it had been abandoned gradually by new formed Jew congregations. "Old truth" became useless as sort of knowledge about what, how, when and why to be practiced in daily life.
    Principles stayed. Love God, love neighbor are most known.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from admin in Eva Cassidy - Kathy's Song   
    Paul Simon, full lyric,
    Kathy's Song
     
    I hear the drizzle of the rain
    Like a memory it falls
    Soft and warm continuing
    Tapping on my roof and walls.
    And from the shelter of my mind
    Through the window of my eyes
    I gaze beyond the rain-drenched streets
    To England where my heart lies.
    My mind's distracted and diffused
    My thoughts are many miles away
    They lie with you when you're asleep
    And kiss you when you start your day.
    And a song I was writing is left undone
    I don't know why I spend my time
    Writing songs I can't believe
    With words that tear and strain to rhyme.
    And so you see I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
    And as I watch the drops of rain
    Weave their weary paths and die
    I know that I am like the rain
    There but for the grace of you go I.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    @Srecko Sostar I don't know, but it made me laugh anyway. 
    If some of the 'brothers' are deeply involved in the property business, and other brothers are deeply involved in the legal / lawyer business (court cases), then it seems the JW Org becomes more worldly every day. 
    I cannot believe this is what God or Jesus Christ wants from 'chosen ones'. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    Are JW people, who are involved in making money with buy and sale business  inside WT Society, those "sons of this world" :)) because of their wisdom how to handle and make arrangements with "wicked generation of darkness" ?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    They are not selling ONE house, they are running a Property business 
    https://ibsaproperty.com/
    IBSA London Properties is part of IBSA (International Bible Students Association) a registered charity acting on behalf of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Britain and Ireland. For more information about Jehovah’s Witnesses please follow this link.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in THE REIGNING 144,000   
    And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10  and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kingsr over the earth.”Rev 5:9,10 - NWT
    As a JW, this sounded accurate to me, since it fit the supporting doctrine that the “144,000” will rule strictly from heaven – “over” the earth...not within its vicinity, but from the spiritual realm.  What I have since learned about this scripture and Christ’s truth regarding where the anointed will be “ruling” from, has been an important turning point for me.
    Notice how the organization’s own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures breaks down vs. 10:
    “and you made them to the God of us kingdom and priests and they are reigning upon the earth”
    Here are a few other examples:
    “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”  Scripture4all.org
    “…they will reign upon the earth”.  https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/5-10.htm
    It is very rare to find a Bible translation using the phrase “over the earth” in this scripture. The organization’s latest pictorial depiction of the 144,000 kings/priests ruling in heaven was of a vast array of emerald green thrones where men appearing identical to one another and to Christ, gazed over the earth as Christ’s “co-rulers”.  I wonder what the anointed JW women feel about a female’s apparent transition into a man, who are clones of each other.  This teaching sounds ridiculous to me today.  However, since the role of JW women is repeatedly slighted, should we expect any acknowledgement of the anointed being both male and female?  I could be in error, but I haven’t seen any photos of women partaking in the magazines.
     There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.  Gal 3:28
    To be one in Christ does not mean the faithful sealed anointed take on the same physical appearance as Christ. All of the members of a fleshly body are distinctly different in appearance; working separately yet collectively, with the unified goal to allow the body to work efficiently.  It is the same in the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 12:15-20  All are given various gifts, and all are individuals with individual personalities. They have abilities reflecting the gift they receive.
     Paul described it this way:
    There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.  1 Cor 12:4-6
    If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 1 Cor 12:19,20
    Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized byone Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. 1 Cor 12:12-14
    15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.  Eph 4:11-16
    The 144,000 are the Bride of Christ under the New Covenant “woman”/promise.   (2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:29-32; Gal 4:26) It is curious that the WT's leaders rarely go into detail about this.  When I recall their latest illustration described above, I don’t believe the artist had the idea of “bride” in mind. I could only sense an aura of steely authority, without the needed compassion and love that Jesus exhibited and taught his disciples to nurture within themselves. (Isa 42:3; Matt 14:14; John 13:34,35; 1 John 4: 17; Heb 4:15)
    Just as a bride and groom are not identical to each other, neither is Christ’s Bride of many members; either to Christ, or to one another, as the illustration erroneously shows. (1 Cor 12:29,30; Eph 4:11-13)  Marriage partners compliment and support each other in love.  It is the same with the Body of Christ, being united in one Spirit that imparts love, faith and knowledge of Christ and the Father.
    The organization’s leaders are unable to perceive this spiritual unity, since they have rejected the Spirit of Christ, in exchange for the spirit of Satan.  (John 15:4-7;1 Cor 6:15-17; 2 Cor 11:3; 2 Pet 1:10; Rev 2:4; 8:10;13:11)
    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  1 Cor 2:12-14
     In order to “rule on the earth”, God’s priests must be on the earth.  If we can shed the false belief that once the 144,000 are sealed in “heaven” they will remain there, we are then able to grasp how such “heavenly” angel/messenger/priests will be found ruling, teaching, and helping God’s future children on the earth.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 1:14; Rev 5:9,10)  
    We can comprehend God’s “new creation” as having two “births”; one by fleshly parents through Adam and Eve, (Gen 2:7) and one by spiritual parents.  (John 3:3,5; 1 Cor 15:50; John 15:45; 20:22; Gal 4:26)
    Once Jesus was resurrected, he appeared many times to his disciples in the flesh; and just as easily, disappeared into the spirit realm.   His example set the precedence of what it means to be a “new creation”.  (Mark 16:12; John 21:14; 1 Cor 15:3-8) 
    By combining this event with Pearl Doxsey's help from her article, “Who are the gods?”, we can visualize the 144,000 “angels” present not only in the spirit realm, but on earth as well:
    The sons of God ("gods") inherit the promises given to Abraham. What promises are these?
    "I will make you very fruitful (John 15:8) I will make nations of you (Rev 5:9,10), and kings will come from you (Rev 20:4; 1:5; 3:21; 19:16,15; 2:26,27)".

    “Jacob had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. 
    There above it stood the Lord, and he said: "I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying 
    (Ps 37:29; Heb 2:5,16; Gal 3:29; Heb 11:8-10; 13:14; Rev 21:2; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20) (Gen.17:6). 
    Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring (Rev 22:2). I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go (Matt 28:20), and I will bring you back to this land (Rev 21:7). 

    I will not leave you (John 14:18) until I have done what I have promised you (John 16:22). 
    Jacob was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place (Heb 12:22,23,28)! This is none other than the house of God (1 Cor 3:9,16; Isa 56:7; Eph 2:19,10); this is the gate of heaven (Rev 11:6; Matt 16:19; Rev 3:12; John 10:9; 2 Cor 5:20)." (Gen.28:12-15,17)

    "Jesus added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open (Luke 24:32; Rev 2:17; Matt 13:11; Rev 4:1; 1:1) 
    (John 3:12; 1 Cor 2:12,13; Col 3:2), and the angels of God ascending and descending (Heb 12:22; Eph 2:6; Rev 3:21) "on* (Greek--*"in service to") the Son of Man.” (John 1:51)
    The "angels" (Lit. Greek, "messengers" – Isa 43:10,21; 1 Pet 2:9; Mal 2:7; Acts 1:8) referred to here, could not have served before the time of Christ (John 3:13)
    Jesus specifically said that they are in service on "the Son of Man" (1 Cor 4:1). 
    The "Son of Man" is Jesus in the flesh (John 1:14). Therefore, these angels serve Christ, after his coming down from heaven. 
    To be a messenger of Christ ("ambassador") who harbors God's spirit of life within...
    who has been made new (Rom 12:2; 8:11) as a part of God's new creation (2 Cor 5:17) by means of incorruptible seed, the Word of God (1 Pet 1:23; Luke 8:11)...
    …who has been reborn as a Son of the Most High (John 3:3,5; Rom 8:16,17,19,28-30)...
    who has been made an immovable pillar in the eternal heavenly Temple of God (Rev 3:12; Prov 9:1; Jer 1:18)...
    ...is a "god" (Ps 82:6; Rom 8:14; 1 Cor 8:5). 
    I do hope readers here find this information to be a personal turning point as it was for me, in learning that both Christ and the 144,000 kings and priests/ Bride of Christ, will have access to heaven as well as on earth, and living among God’s future children in the Kingdom.
    “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.” Matt 5:14
     Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. Rev 21:1-3
     “But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple” Rev 21:22
    And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. 5 There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever. Rev 22:3-5
    Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1 Cor 3:16
    Pearl Doxsey: (type in her name and the title of the article in the search bar. The link should appear)
    “End of the New Covenant”
    “Those not anointed – what benefit now?”
    “The Holy City”
     

     
     
     
    And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
    “Let all God’s angels worship him.” (Heb.1:6)
    "Jesus will again, be brought into the world. At that time, the totality of his angels/messengers, will worship him... and be in service to, the Son of Man."  Pearl Doxsey
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    This is relatively true. Relativism is based on perception. It depends in what part of world you live, and how much income you have. Generally, i believe how most JW's do not belong to people who have more (surplus money) than they need for some "normal" life. Of course, we all can do some changes to live more modest life than we do now. But it is not good to be "clever" in advising how some other people should live in their circumstances, and not for yourself.
    And this is also good advice for WT Society. To not give lessons about modesty when they using expensive building projects and other advanced technology for few so simple request Jesus put on people: Love God, Love people and give testimony about your Faith and Hope. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    correction 2. Kings 2:9
    @Witness , I read material in link. I like wording in there speaking about knowledge in mind and love in heart. But, of course, when this two working in harmony, results (fruits) are better.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Eva Cassidy - Kathy's Song   
    Paul Simon, full lyric,
    Kathy's Song
     
    I hear the drizzle of the rain
    Like a memory it falls
    Soft and warm continuing
    Tapping on my roof and walls.
    And from the shelter of my mind
    Through the window of my eyes
    I gaze beyond the rain-drenched streets
    To England where my heart lies.
    My mind's distracted and diffused
    My thoughts are many miles away
    They lie with you when you're asleep
    And kiss you when you start your day.
    And a song I was writing is left undone
    I don't know why I spend my time
    Writing songs I can't believe
    With words that tear and strain to rhyme.
    And so you see I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
    And as I watch the drops of rain
    Weave their weary paths and die
    I know that I am like the rain
    There but for the grace of you go I.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    Well here in the UK the JW Org are selling houses for over one million pounds each in London, and I didn't even look at how much the commercial properties were. So they are into big business it seems, whilst Jesus said He was no part of this world.  I'd love to know exactly who lives in those one million pound houses before they are sold, and is it JW volunteers that refurbish the houses. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in EVA CASSIDY ~ Fields Of Gold   
    My daughter would play her album Time After Time, over and over. When I found out that Eva Cassidy had already died well before the album came out, it kind of made a few of the songs sound even more "haunting" than they already were.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to admin in EVA CASSIDY ~ Fields Of Gold   
    Wow  she died of melanoma at the age of 33!!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in EVA CASSIDY ~ Fields Of Gold   
    Eva Cassidy died at a relatively young (age 33) and has only a couple albums where she sings by herself, most of them stylistic covers. But her ability to put emotion into a song was amazing. Her rendition of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is perfect. Wish we had more of her work to listen to.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to admin in EVA CASSIDY ~ Fields Of Gold   
    This version seems to have so much more feeling than the original
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    correction 2. Kings 2:9
    @Witness , I read material in link. I like wording in there speaking about knowledge in mind and love in heart. But, of course, when this two working in harmony, results (fruits) are better.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    I am not so sure that Colossians speaking about coincidence. 
    I never thought this way, but questions comes after reading this Colossians verses. What sort of "created lordships or governments or authorities" already existed in the heavens and on earth, especially in time period before, in the moment and after Adam and Eve were created? Have some idea? 
    New born human society was made of two. I see, in Genesis, how Adam had sort of "power" over animals. Eve had free will and autonomy, just like Adam. Only after Cain's crime we see how he had big fear over his life because there was possibility, that some people (who they are, where they lived, what structure they created??) will kill him because of what  he has done. 
    I see here some issues. God didn't punished Cain (God is Lord, Government and Authority). Adam didn't punished Cain (Adam was his father, but he didn't show he had any power over his son). Some unknown people, living who knows where have some thoughts about killing Cain, because he murdered Abel. Why would they be interested in this Adam's family "business"? And why they were interested in "punishing" Cain? 
    What sort of structure, legislative (lordships or governments or authorities) existed inside this outside group, tribe, society, that show us how they had something what Adam and Eve family, tribe hadn't ?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    My donations are always by check, and written thereon is "for local needs".
    It's like paying taxes, some of which are used to make hydrogen bombs, and ICBMs.
    Not my problem.
    Jesus and the Apostles needed NONE of those things you mentioned, Arauna.
    If you are NOT inspired of God, as the GB admits they are not ( February 2017 Watchtower), you do need all of those things you mentioned.
    They are actually essential, as I would freely admit.
    .... and HEY!, I am just guessing about all of this ... as is everyone else.
    And Arauna .... did you get NOTHING out of the "Follow Jesus" Assemblies?
    Jesus set the example .
    We are either following that example, or .....
    WE ARE NOT.
    The fact of the matter is that the GB DOES use the billions for their own purposes.
    but, I am, as you stated, "no one to criticize" ... as I do not follow Jesus' example either.
    If I had that kind of money, I would buy a Chinook double rotor helicopter, instead of Rolex watches, and cartoons of Caleb and Sophia, etc.
    uh ... for Witnessing on beautiful Pacific Islands, of course ....
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Receiving and giving with measure. Receiving and giving without measure.   
    I strongly suspect that Jehovah's Holy Spirit is given in direct proportion to the amount of Spirit you actually need.... considering that Jesus Christ and the Apostles had NO Real Estate whatsoever, as part of their Organization, and only enough money for the days food, and to the best of my knowledge, just the clothes on their backs, they needed a lot ... and they received a lot of Holy Spirit.
    The Governing Body has billions of dollars in Real Estate, all over the world, and controls billions of dollars worth of money, to spend as they alone see fit.
    ... and dat's de fact, Jack.
    SOOooooo... they are on their own.
    ..... as are the great majority of us.
    I have SEEN Jehovah's Spirit build up and sustain several of the Anointed ones, who had no strength of resources of their own, and I suspect when it is needed ... actually NEEDED .. the rest of us "ground pounders" get it as well.
    That is just my guess of how it works ... no more.
    ...and I suspect it is INVERSELY proportional to how much you have naturally, WITHOUT Jehovah's intervention.
     
     
     
    the formula for that is 1/x.
    There is probably a button on your pocket calculator for that.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    Answer:
    Hatred borne of jealousy ...
    .... because the people  covering the Earth, outside of Adam and Eves' family, were NOT directly created beings of Jehovah, and did NOT have an opportunity to live forever ...
    ...and they KNEW that to be the case.
    That is why Cain was afraid that wherever he went in his enforced exile to wander the Earth, those evolved  humans would kill him.
    I do not "have Polaroids", but that idea solves a LOT of problems, including millions of tons of hard fossil evidence, all over the Earth, that only the willfully stupid would say means nothing ... and it solves the problem of who Cain married.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    2011, after the Nation realized they could NOT keep their doctor, they could NOT keep their health plan, and the $2500 every person was going to save on their Health Care, was going to cost them about $10,000 more, and if they did not buy it, the IRS would add a whopping fine to their Income Tax return.
    On a related note, in 1980, the Governing Body in considering the "signs in the heavens ..." actually considered declaring Sputnik to be the fulfillment of Bible Prophesy, Schroeder, Karl Klein and Grant Suiter proposed moving the beginning of the "generation" to the year 1957, to coincide with the 1957 Sputnik event,  and it almost became "new light", except a 66-2/3 majority vote was needed to adopt that policy, and one member of the Governing Body went to the restroom, and when he came back, he changed his vote, and it failed by one vote.
    In retrospect, perhaps the Brother should have held his water.
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    It's a difficult doctrine, with an easy explanation.
    The Earth is about 3.5 billion years old.
    Each creative day is (3.5 billion divided by 7 = 500,000,000) about 500 million years..
    Armageddon will occur at the "End of Days".
    Therefore ... "Stay Alive, 'till 500,001,975".
    See?
    The math works out perfectly, AND it agrees with fossils !
    TA DA!
    Plus! --- the .ORG gets a LOT of "wiggle room".
    As Marvin Webster sez: "Ya'll think about it."
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in A Difficult Doctrine. With an easy explanation.   
    Since you are asking, I'll take a cue from 1 Peter 3:15 and let you know what I'm thinking here.
    First of all we already believe that Jesus began to rule in 33. (I hope that was a mistake where you said 1933.)
    (Colossians 1:13-20) . . .He rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things, and by means of him all other things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because God was pleased to have all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all other things by making peace through the blood he shed on the torture stake, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens.
    There is no indication here that the Kingdom of God's Son is any different than the Kingdom of God which had now become the Kingdom of his Christ. In fact, you might notice a couple of other parallels between Colossians and Revelation, including the hurling down of Satan (rescuing us from the authority of the darkness). Also, perhaps by coincidence, the immediate context of Colossians also discussed the salvation and the power and the Kingdom and the authority and the conquering through the blood of the Lamb.
    (Revelation 12:10, 11) . . .Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death.
    The idea that Satan was cast down in 33 is also repeated several times in the Greek Scriptures.
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