Srecko Sostar

Yep .... it's a problem all right .....
We will probably get more respect and attention when we start carrying rifles, rocket propelled grenades, bomb vests, and "new light" includes 72 virile, nubile virgins. Preferably with gymnastic abilities.
I talked to some Muslims one time about converting, and they got really excited when they found out I could fly a 747.
Can you fly .mp4

That goes back to the old adage that people who play the violin often have OTHER nasty habits.

I guess, 15-30 kg of hot bricks would give enough heat :)))
As general view, men prefer young and beautiful women :)) 
... yes, perhaps others who have been long enough with David understand what would/will make him happy :))
I have no need "to persuade" anyone on  anything about bible times and our standard of life. We have some written history about what we make some comments, talking, arguing, giving different perspective on same events, making critics or questioning why .....etc. 
Without books, TV or internet we would not knew nothing about first, second or third world and how people living. Or to make questions why they living that way and not by our way.
 

I have been married to my wife for 40 years, less one. (39).
She is 4 years older than I am, which means that there was a time when she was 8 and I was only 4!
The shame!!

Occasionally even now I will take a nap on the carpet with naked 5 year olds, to 15 year olds, both male and female.
Well, naked ... except for their flea collars and rabies tags.

What do you recommending about "age difference" ?? 
.... also, have to add this: you have weird and deformed "age mathematics".

Foreigner:
I posted that just to extract from you proof that your perspective, outlook, and viewpoint on EVERYTHING is totally screwed up, and therefore, your opinions on any subject whatsoever are not valid in the REAL world outside of playing with words.
According to you, Dick Van Dyke marrying a competent, capable woman who was FORTY YEARS OLD  is pedophilia.
He is now 92, and she is now 47, and each one complements the other.
You are so divorced from reality it is embarrassing to read what you write.
Your opinions, by whatever personna you are using at the time,  on any subject are worthless.
That is why I think your "down votes" are funny.

Foreigner:
Whatever medications you are on ... you need to take a LOT more!
 
...and what IS a 6.6 white male?
 

In my opinion I wouldn't necessarily say answering, or investigating opposers claims constitutes hanging out with them. To quote J. Reuben Clark "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought be harmed". We should be confident that our beliefs can stand up to scrutiny, if we don't have that confidence, then that is a problem.

You really didn't answer my question.  The scriptures you gave me speak of Paul.  Now, you seem to be comparing the GB with an apostle.  Sir, this is impossible.  Paul was an inspired prophet who is part of the foundation of God’s Temple.  1 Cor 12:28; Eph 2:20-22; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17
 The GB are “inspired” false prophets, and part of the foundation of an organization.  Matt 16:18; 7:24-27; Rev 13:11-17
I believe it is the GB that need to get over themselves.  I understand that they are now to be called "faithful and prudent".  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  This is really an interesting turn, since scripture reveals even more clearly, who they are.
  Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
    who put darkness for light,
    and light for darkness;
who put bitter for sweet,
    and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
    and prudent in their own sight!
22 Woe to those who are mighty to drink wine,
    and champions at mixing strong drink;
23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe,
    but deny justice for the innocent!  (Matt 24:48-51)
24 Therefore as the tongue of fire devours the stubble,
    and as the dry grass sinks down in the flame,
    so their root shall be as rottenness,
    and their blossom shall go up as dust,
because they have rejected the law of Yahweh of Armies,
    and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.  Isa 5:20-24
 
 

Every statement you make just shows how totally divorced from Reality you are.
That's what Narcissistic Personality Disorder IS.
If you were proven wrong a HUNDRED times on any one subject with hard FACTS, you would still believe what you believe, and EVERYTHING that disagrees with your world view would be wrong.
 

...which begs the question ... what kind of demented mind would downvote  a challenge to someone to present actual, verifiable FACTS?
 

That is what your naive assessment is. There are still certain steps to go before the fat lady sings. Your apostate friends just happen to apply one.
Of course the California Supreme Court and the Appellate Courts have spoken. That doesn't mean the US supreme court can't send it back to the lower courts for further review. That doesn't mean the Org can't ask for an oral argument for the highest court.
More hot air coming from an uneducated person.


Srecko, try learning something for a change. It's not about maneuvers, it's about the US process of the law. If you don't understand our laws, keep your opinion to yourself. Every topic you think you know, you just keep embarrassing yourself even further. Stick to up voting your apostate friend JTR post. That's a safer bet on how to support ignorance.

Well ... according to the DCC (Demented Criteria Council), it IS brave.
The reason people "sift through other peoples' garbage". is that they are starving for real , honest, verifiable Truth.

 

Are we talking about:
"new" light,
"changed" light
or about drinking too much"alcohol"?

???? 
When children suffer, you have brave to call that as a "garbage"?
Maneuvers made by JW lawyers under WT Society commands and directives is attempt to defending International  Conglomerate Company with "religious" based "garbage" argumentation. 

divergenceKO:
Apparently the fat lady has sang, and for the corrupt Watchtower Lawyers who care ONLY about their client's monetary interest (... as they are actually legally responsible to do ...), and NOTHING about Truth and Justice, and Righteousness, the metal Opera helmet with the horns is theirs to wear.
The California Appellate Court has already spoken, to wit:
What they did in Delaware by trying to delay Justice in a CSA case by TRYING to change the venue to a court more distant and seriously overloaded was crafty, brilliant .... and despicable.
Your opinions have a complete disregard for facts, which is why you never provide any ... just agenda driven fantasies, like the Nazi who actually believes in his heart of hearts that World War II was about the Third Reich bringing the wonders of German civilization and progress to improve the rest of the world.
Most Likely?
MOST LIKELY?
THAT IS COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS, because it is ONLY your agenda driven hope, and not based on any facts.
Without facts your opinions have no value whatsoever. 
Zip, Zero, Nada, Goose Eggs!
Remember the old TV dairy commercial of yesteryear .. "Got Milk?"
Well...
Got Facts?
...so far you have none, whatsoever.
Only your demented, delusional fantasy, supported and enconced by a great pantheon of additional delusional fantasys, completely integrated into your Watchtower Derangement Syndrome world view.
 
 

The Supreme Court Rejected a Case About the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Sex Abuse
By Hemant Mehta October 8, 2019   Yesterday, the Supreme Court announced that it would not take up a wild case concerning the organization that oversees the Jehovah’s Witnesses. We can breathe a huge sigh of relief that the case won’t be overturned. (In that link, it’s case 19-40 on page 42.)
 
 
The case, which involved child molestation and religious secrecy, centered around an incident that took place on July 15, 2006.
J.W., a nine-year-old girl with Jehovah’s Witness parents, was invited to her first slumber party at the home of Gilbert Simental. He had a daughter her age, so that wasn’t too weird. Two other girls (sisters) were also at the party. These families all knew and trusted Simental because, while he was no longer a local Witness leader, he had spent more than a decade as an elder in the faith. He was a religious leader who stepped down, he said, to spend more time with his son. They believed him. They all respected him. It’s why they allowed their girls into his home.
During that party, everyone got into a pool in the backyard… including Simental. And he proceeded to molest J.W. and the sisters. He did it again later that night. The sisters eventually told their parents, who reported Simental to local Witness elders (which is what they’re taught to do in these situations).
Simental confessed to some of the allegations, and the elders basically gave him a faith-based slap on the wrist: a reprimand that had no meaning outside church circles.
Things changed only when the sisters’ school principal learned about what happened and, as required by law, reported the abuse to local law enforcement. Police soon contacted J.W.’s family asking for their story, but after consulting with the Witnesses, her father chose not to speak with the cops.
It was a year later when J.W., then 10 years old, told her parents what Simental did to her in the pool. It infuriated them, and they told the Witness elders that they wanted a restraining order against him. The elders told him not to do that since it would require informing the police about what Simental did — and they preferred to keep his actions private.
Here’s the bigger problem: There’s reason to believe the Witnesses were aware that Simental was a child molester… and they kept it from the families. Simental was allowed to be a religious leader — earning respect from the community — even though higher-ups in the religion knew that he shouldn’t be around children.
It raised an important question: How much blame did the Witnesses deserve for what happened at that pool party?
J.W.’s family eventually filed a criminal lawsuit against Simental and a separate civil suit against the Watchtower Society (the Witnesses’ governing organization). They basically said the Witnesses should have informed congregation members about Simental and stopped him from being around children. They never should have allowed him to be a religious leader.
The Watchtower Society’s argument? They didn’t know Simental was a child molester, and the pool party occurred after he was no longer a religious leader, and the slumber party wasn’t a church-sponsored event, so leave them out of this.
(To be clear, I’m simplifying the details of this case and the legal journey quite a bit.)
When this case went to trial in California, J.W.’s family demanded that the Watchtower Society produce documents relating to what they knew about child molesters within the faith. The Witnesses had already admitted to keeping lists of problematic leaders along with their specific “crimes” — similar to the Catholic Church. If Simental was on that list — from 1997, nearly a decade before the pool incident — it would essentially be a smoking gun showing the Witnesses knew he was a threat to kids but did nothing about it.
But the Witnesses refused to hand over that material. They treated it like Catholics treat confession: It’s private information, they argued, and to reveal what was said internally would violate their religious beliefs.
J.W.’s family didn’t buy that argument. The information they wanted wasn’t bound by clergy-penitent confessional privilege. It’s not like Simental told the elders what he had done in order to confess his sins. He was caught. The Witnesses were merely shielding him from legal punishment.
In the criminal trial, Witnesses elders were forced to admit their practices and that the private discussions they had about abusive clergy members were not considered confidential under the law.
Mark O’Donnell, writing at JWSurvey, explained what happened next:
 
  Simental’s appeal got him nowhere. He’s in prison today. But there were still so many questions about what responsibility the Witnesses had in this whole matter.  
J.W.’s family wanted to know why Simental, a known pedophile, was promoted within the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why did they allow him to be around children? Why didn’t they warn families? Why did they just give him a slap on the wrist?
In 2013, the civil trial began against the Watchtower Society, but again, the Witnesses didn’t want to provide necessary documents. They eventually lost the case. In 2015, the Riverside Superior Court of California awarded J.W. a judgment of $4,016,152.39. This past December, the Fourth District Court of Appeal in California upheld that decision.
You get the idea: The Witnesses refused to hand over internal data, presumably because it would’ve been like handing over a loaded gun. So the courts had no choice but to assume the plaintiff was telling the truth and the Watchtower Society was negligent in their handling of Simental.
Earlier this year, in a Hail Mary attempt to reverse their punishment, the Watchtower Society appealed to the Supreme Court. They wanted the justices to say that documents relating to child abuse within a religious group can be kept confidential.
Here’s how the Witnesses’ attorney introduced his case to the justices. (You don’t need a law degree to see how he just completely dismissed the molestation.)
Watchtower attorney Paul Polidoro said the Supreme Court needed to consider whether California violated the Constitution when it held the Jehovah’s Witnesses responsible for what Simental did “during non-church activity,” forced them to hand over internal communications, and punished them for protecting everyone’s “privacy rights.”
J.W.’s attorney responded to that brief asking the Court to flat-out reject this case.
Indeed, that’s what the Court decided. When the first set of orders in the new term was released yesterday, there was this case among many many others, in the list of those which would not get heard this term.
 
 
It was the right move. There’s nothing further to debate here. Finally, this case has been put to rest.
(Image via Shutterstock. Large portions of this article were published earlier)
   

The WT publication continues: 
 Jesus also says that those who are faithful in caring for and using whatever riches or material things they have will be faithful in caring for matters of greater importance. “Therefore,” Jesus points out, “if you have not proved yourselves faithful in connection with the unrighteous riches, who will entrust you with what is true [such as Kingdom interests]?”—Luke 16:11.
Jesus is showing his disciples that much will be asked of them if they are to be received “into the everlasting dwelling places.” One cannot be a true servant of God and at the same time be a slave to unrighteous, material riches. 
If 8 million people are handing over material riches to one entity, who is it that is a slave to material riches?  It is the people who operate the entity, and who convince the 8 million people, that a “true servant of God” will do so, since the entity states their eternal lives depend…on the entity.  Although, the 8 million people have also become slaves to material riches, which are bound up in the entity that they believe will lead them to eternal life.
 This is idolatry.  Exod 23:13; Jonah 2:8; Ps 16:4; Acts 17:29; Rom 1:25
“They lift it upon the shoulder and carry it;
They set it in its place (in one’s mind and heart) and it stands there.
It does not move from its place.
Though one may cry to it, it cannot answer;
It cannot deliver him from his distress.  Isa 46:7
 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”  Matt 11:28-30
A comment made a few years back...
The meaning of unrighteous riches can be seen in 1 Cor 4:8 –  “You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us—and indeed I could wish you did reign, that we also might reign with you!”
This steward was cutting the debts owed to the Master, Jesus, using practical “earthly” wisdom to save his own soul, but he had no authority to do so.  Each anointed in God’s house owe the Master a debt.  Thus, the steward’s wisdom is centered not on the Kingdom, as a son of light, but on acquiring power and authority over all in God’s House, as a “son of this system of things”. 
If this steward was to ‘make friends’ by sharing authority with all in the house, he would later be judged by his fellow servants, as faithful.  John 20:23
Jesus requires each servant of his house to give obedience to him only, not to one who thrives on “unrighteous riches”, who assumes the Master’s belongings are in his control.   John 14:23,15; 8:51; 15:10; 1 John 2:5
It is true that when one exercises power and authority over others, material, worldly wealth come along with it.  Ezek 16:14,15; Jer 2:20; Rev 2:21; 17:4; 18:3,7,12-14
But never did Jesus give the indication that material wealth could gain one advantage into the Kingdom. We know his entire message was to follow him, leaving behind anyone and anything, for his name’s sake.  By doing so, he promised those would receive “a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life”.  Matt 19:29
Matt 19:16-14; 18:16-24
Jesus’ parable of the steward in Luke 16:1-15 and the wicked slave in Matt 18:31-35 harmonize in giving a clear picture of the present day situation of undue authority over God’s house by the self-proposed “faithful and discreet slave”, assuming command through the use of tyrannical “unrighteous riches”. 
 
 
 

Jesus - The Way, the Truth, the Life
Chapter 87
"Only Jehovah God and his Son can receive someone into the heavenly Kingdom or the Paradise on earth under that Kingdom. We should diligently cultivate friendship with them by using what material riches we have in supporting Kingdom interests. Our everlasting future will thus be assured when gold, silver, and other material riches fail or perish."
This is saying we can buy, with material riches,  a friendship with God and Christ.  We can buy, with material riches, our way to eternal life. Do you believe this, JWs?
No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.  Matt 6:24
Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”  When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”  Matt 19:21-26
Jesus didn't say give to an organization that is highly developed and ready to expand to twice its present size.    He said, give to the poor, to those in need.   You've been duped into believing that donating to the organization will secure your "everlasting future".  Does the Bible say anywhere that money is necessary to gain eternal life?  Perhaps, money is necessary to feed the dreams of men and their expanding organization.  Perhaps money is necessary to feed an idol that promises salvation.  Rom 1:25; Rev 13:1,4,8
Whoever loves money never has enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income.   This too is meaningless.  Eccl 5:10
Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.  1 Tim 6:17-19
Do not love the world nor the things in the world If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.  1 John 2:15-17
The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of others, but God knows your hearts. What people value highly is detestable in God’s sight.”  Luke 16:14
Can we secure a friendship with the Father and Christ with material riches - money - when it is said...
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.  1 Tim 6:10
 
 
To understand the parable of the  "Wasteful Steward", go to - 4womaninthewilderness blogspot, Pearl Doxsey
 
 
 

Do you have the ability to peer into my private worship given to God?  Do you have the ability to know who I worship with?     I didn't think so.
What do you do besides slander opposers?
Could you please provide scripture that proves he is rejecting my behavior?
 
 
 

about sad people:
On hearing this, Jesus told them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
about sole service of God:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

No, Arauna, I was a wallflower in the organization.  I was obedient to those who supposedly were watching over my soul.  I am now obedient to Christ; and will continue to expose the WT and the GB for who they are, and how they fulfill prophesy about God's people in the last days.  I am sure they know who I am now, and keep track of what Pearl, myself and others say, about their spiritual ruse.   If I could take every JW by the hand and drag them out of the organization, I would.  What you translate as OCD, hate and bitterness, is absolute fear and dread for your spiritual lives.  Rev 11:1-3
I just read this sobering quote by Mark Twain:  “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Your statement that I quoted was well made, yet you cannot see that it applies directly, to the men whom you believe are leading you to salvation.  
 
Addition - I no longer "fear" men.  God did not arrange the Body of Christ - a body of "bond servants" who are under one Head, and who are to cherish each of its members - only to expect a group of them to wield authoritative power over the others.  Jesus warned his disciples not to be this way.   1 Cor 12:12-26  Now, we have an organization with "rulers" who fail in their teachings and still expect obedience; as if the GB is the Head of the anointed Body of Christ!   I wish you could see that this defies God's word.  It defies Christ's teachings.  Luke 22:24-27    
To say that a person who turns his back on men and their organization;  and instead, turns fully toward God and Christ, is the one at fault, shows just how powerful and successful the GB and elder body's rule over JWs, has evolved.  
"The Lord confides in those who fear Him;
    He makes his covenant known to them.
 My eyes are ever on the Lord,
    for only He will release my feet from the snare."  Ps 25:14,15