Srecko Sostar

I have found FOXNEWS to be the best news source available.  Not perfect, by any means, but their agenda is OPENLY STATED, and their news is peer reviewed.
Who YOU gonna trust?
Your Stock Broker?
 

In today's news a pre-Edenic settlement was found in Israel ... over 9,000 years old.
It would be another 3,000 years before Adam was created, etc., etc.
This is one of many thousands of examples, all over the Earth, why I believe there were  two species of humans .... "Homo Sapiens", and "Homo Theocraticus" ... those created directly by God to for the FIRST time, having an opportunity for  everlasting life, and those who evolved, for which there is also irrefutable hard evidence, although they were not considered real men and women, legally.
 

Didn't the watchtower teach at some point that black people were descendants of Cain?

For a woman to only have two sons ... and one was murdered .... where did theses sisters and nieces come from?
There is no Biblical support for EITHER concept. 
None whatsoever.
Please correct me if I am wrong ....
There is, however ....  solid Biblical support that Cain was condemned to wander the Earth, and EVERYWHERE he was afraid of people, MEN AND WOMEN ... that would want to kill him.
They were ALREADY THERE.
 
 
 
The question is, and should be  ... Where did THEY come from?
 
 
 

Melinda, I respect your opinions, and have also carefully considered the Scriptures you posted.
I am not trying to convince ANYBODY, as Jehovah shows us all mercy for being wrong ... or who could stand?
My problem is I know for an absolute fact that at one time, Dinosaurs  ruled the Earth, and much, much later there were human civilizations in almost every nook and cranny of the Earth ...... who left hard evidence of their existence .... LONG, LONG before 6,000 or so years ago.
How do you resolve irrefutable hard evidence ... verified a dozen different ways .... with the idea that no people existed on the earth before Adam?
Cain certainly was worried about them killing him!
 

There is no conflict between what I said, and what you said Anna.
My words stated "during the time of Abraham". Perhaps I should have been more specific, because obviously Israel came into existence and a road to salvation was started ONLY because of God's love for Abraham .... but I think the prophesy in Genesis  about wounded feet, etc. had already been solidified, and God was looking for the right person to implement his purposes.  Salvation restored for "Homo Theocraticus"  and their hybrid descendants, through Abram and his descendants. That is how the purpose became the plan.
All of what I say here is only a best guess .... but it is a GOOD best guess.  Please feel free to punch holes in it.
Iron sharpens iron .... soft soap sharpens nothing.
 

Because of Cain intermarrying  with a woman naturally evolved, eventually (by the time Jesus arrived) the blood lines would have been  completely intermixed, and ALL men and women  could benefit from that Ransom. (?).
Remember ... during the time of Abraham, if you were NOT of his blood line, all people of the Earth were pretty much ignored by God, and were NOT a special possession of God, so salvation has not always been for all people .....
It's just an example to keep in mind as we try to figure things out.
The unsubstantiated story of Cain and Abel, before he was murdered, having sex with their sisters, who were NEVER mentioned,  to progenate the human race always seemed silly and contrived to me, and there is no Biblical support whatsoever for that idea.
 

By the way .... if you ever wonder WHY God created mankind ... "Homo Theocraticus" .. only about 6,000 years ago ... to me the answer is quite simple.
For billions of years the Moon has been moving away from the Earth, getting smaller and smaller as it moves about two inches away further each year. 
Only at the time we are living in RIGHT NOW is the apparent size of the Moon and the Sun EXACTLY coincident, which because of solar eclipses you can see how starlight bends around the gravitational influence of the Moon, and by recording that on photographic plates, as was done circa 1918, you can PROVE Einstein's theory of relativity, and give us an understanding of how the Universe REALLY works.
At the EXACT time we were ready to become Spacefarers on the seas of light!
Jehovah wanted to create a people that would live FOREVER, for the first time ... so that they would live to see their destinations, when they became Spacefarers.
It's a BIG physical Universe out there, folks, and Jehovah does not need ANY of it for himself.
 

Lessee ... um ..... there was Adam ... uh... Eve ..... and, uh ... Cain (who killed Abel), so that would mean  that 1/3 of the directly created "Homo Theocraticus" humans  alive after the murder .... was a murderer.  
Only four of the "Homo Theocraticus" family created by God, on the Earth, and one of them kills his brother.
That leaves three people.  One in three is a murderer. (Stops to count on fingers, just to verify ....)
(1/3 = 33.3333% for those in Rio Linda)
That does not take into account all the evolved humans that were NOT a part of "Homo Theocraticus",  
Those  humans  who already lived outside the Garden of Eden, all over the Earth, all the way to Australia, and beyond, who left extensive hard irrefutable evidence  of their civilizations.
The ones that Cain feared would kill him, no matter where he went on the Earth. 
The ones from whom Cain took a wife, and bore children, that eventually became us.
Take my word about the 1/3 = 33.3333%..
It's based on REAL MATH!

whaaaaaaatttttttt!???

I do love that word 'ALLOWED'. it shows the control the GB have over the congregants  .  Totally unChristian to 'Lord it over the congregation' but there ya go, that is the nature of the beasts (GB / JW Org).   

That's good jw's are being allowed to show some individual personality. This is a young couple though, let's see how long before they see TTATT.

Why would anyone have a beard ban ?  Does it mean something special ?
I think it is strange for white people to have dreadlocks but each to their own idea. But to ban a growth of hair which is a natural thing. Surely it is the shaving of hair that is unnatural ? Although I would not want a beard for myself. 
 

And a lack of razors!

So, should ladies shave their legs if Jehovah created and designed them to have hairy legs  ? 

There is a young Elder in the Honiton congregation in East Devon, England, that keeps growing a beard, then after a month he will shave it off, then grow it again a couple of weeks later. A young man with thick dark hair so his beard appears quickly, but disappears just as quickly. Quite funny, but unfortunately shows a lack of stability and lack of balance.  So how good is he at being an Elder if he cannot even decide on having a beard or not.  

I will start with this WT Society quote from https://wol.jw.org/hr/wol/d/r19/lp-c/1102003023 : Tell him to stop and listen to the bird singing. Then ask him, "Who created the birds and taught them to sing?" God did this. God created heaven and earth and all living beings!He gives life.
Here we see how publication speaking about one special ability, among many others, ability to learn. So, by this quote we see how animals have ability to learn, and that, in a direct way, personally from God! :)) Yes, this WT Society book is for children, but as simplified edition it could be for adults too. :))
Let's go to article named: 
“His Invisible Qualities Are Clearly Seen”
 Paul said, "[God] invisible attributes, namely his eternal power and deity, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, because they are distinguished by what is created, so that these people have no excuses" ( Romans 1:20 ). If we look closely at these words, we will be convinced that the Creator is like an artist who signed his masterpiece. - source: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130801/believe-in-god/
It is also interesting that in same Creative Day, God has made land animals and humans - together. For First Humans God was not given one Special Day and Separate Day for creating this The Crown of His Creation - humans. No, He made them in the same day. Are Humans the Only Bearers of God’s Image? Humans are not made with some special materials, but also from dust as animals. 
Also, Genesis not telling us about how in Paradise existed predators and prays. But how all living as Equal Creatures, with no Mastering from first Human above any of animal. They all had equal position in Paradise. To live and be happy. Only after the Flood we see how God speaking about huge change - Permission to kill animals for food: Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. Mastering over them in:  The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 
But something is also very interesting:
And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.
Lifeblood of animals and of humans are on same Level before God!
And next thing is interesting:
“I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you 10 and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living creature on earth.
Why would God made covenant with Animals as the same with Human. Why if Animals have no Qualities that God gave, supposedly, only to Human? Why, if Animals have no brain, conscious, heart, ability as Humans?
Humans are Unique in Degree but Not Kind. The capability differences between humans and other creatures seem finally to amount to differences of degree and not kind. The differences among creatures pertain to complexity. There are good reasons to believe humans share basic attributes with other creatures. - source: http://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/animals-made-in-gods-image
Obviously, we have a lot to learn about Animals as creatures made by God Himself. :))

Women are allowed. ?

No, i do not think you are ..... we  are not Vegetarians, so we have  to learn how to move on  Next Level.   :))

Was going to shave this morning. Then i thought WWJD?

Here in Nigeria, beards are not allowed, its against our culture to keep beards...at least so it was the last time I checked. I guess it depends on the location and their culture. 

There was never a time when they were not allowed. Who's going to 'not allow' them?

I love a neat looking beard!  Scruffy ones - noooooo.   Unfortunately it is very easy to let a beard go wild.  It takes constant care it seems..... I have no experience regarding this so I better shut up! -  although the menopause stray hairs have started developing and this also takes some care!

No, i do not think you are ..... we  are not Vegetarians, so we have  to learn how to move on  Next Level.   :))

It Depends on where you live and the community standards. Beards are not acceptable In most cases in U.S. at the current time. Look at pics in publications. When I see governing body members wearing beards, I will realize it is acceptable here.