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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in who is referred to here?   
    This is AMERUKA!  We don't use no stinkin' SI Units in AMERUKA!
    We are red-blooded Bible-Totin' red white and blue  people that use FEET, and INCHES, like the Lord intended normal people to use.  Millimeters, PAH!, that what drug dealers use when rolling reefers!
    Here in Ameruka SI unites is an abbreviation for SISSY man ... the kind of man that will watch Star Trek and yell for Captain Kirk to set his Phaser on STUN!
    REAL MEN don't use STUN. and REAL MEN don't use millimeters !  Tha's for the French who drive those tiny little two seater cars with horns that go "Heunk! Heunk!"
    And Amerulum Surveyors are the manliest men of all.  they go through reptile infested swamps, loaded with disease and death, measuring property lines on brackish water, with CHAINS. They come home from work with bug bites that CAST SHADOWS, like craters on the Moon! After six or eight beers, they hardly notice!
    Millimeters ... PAH!
    Next thing you know, they will be measuring "Overlapping Generations" in CUBITS!
     

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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in who is referred to here?   
    It is also very possible that @Bubba Johnson Jr would like to know When Great Tribulation will start :)) 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Anna in who is referred to here?   
    Asking about, for example, how many  JW witnesses groups exist, can bring us to answers as: Past and Present, Loyal and Not Loyal, Zeal and not Zeal, Discreet and Non Discreet, Died and Alive .... etc. What would be benefit of such research?
    You can used the same methods for "anointed". And come to similar answers.    
    What is the purpose for your question, and by what methods, by what tools, you want to making operation upon verses to see what is the content under the skin? :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in who is referred to here?   
    I think I can answer the question above under the chart that asks: "How do Jesus's words indicate that we are living deep in the time of the end?"
    A. Because if we were to look carefully at the chart and notice the scale that was used to indicate the time for each event, we can see that the Great Tribulation breaks out exactly 148 years after 1893, which is the year 2041. Therefore we are living deep in the time of the end.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in who is referred to here?   
    It's a good question. I think it might be related to the fact that @Bubba Johnson Jr put these verses in his profile along with Brother Splane's updated "Chart of the Ages" that tried to explain the "overlapping groups of Anointed in 'This Generation.' " He posted this chart among the references to the verses above, and it obviously includes THREE GROUPS of anointed:
    Anointed who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 Anointed who were once contemporaries with those who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 Anointed who were not contemporaries with those who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 It's possible that Bubba hopes to find scriptural support for the THREE GROUPS, marked separately in the chart below. But I don't understand his reasoning, and I hope he will explain. Here is what Bubba posted adjacent to the verses above:
    Bubba Johnson Jr

     
    What are “all these things”?
    How does Exodus 1:6 help us to understand the meaning of “generation”?
    To what particular generation was Jesus referring?
    What two groups make up “this generation”?
    How do Jesus’ words indicate that we are living deep in the time of the end?
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in who is referred to here?   
    It's a good question. I think it might be related to the fact that @Bubba Johnson Jr put these verses in his profile along with Brother Splane's updated "Chart of the Ages" that tried to explain the "overlapping groups of Anointed in 'This Generation.' " He posted this chart among the references to the verses above, and it obviously includes THREE GROUPS of anointed:
    Anointed who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 Anointed who were once contemporaries with those who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 Anointed who were not contemporaries with those who saw and discerned the sign in 1914 It's possible that Bubba hopes to find scriptural support for the THREE GROUPS, marked separately in the chart below. But I don't understand his reasoning, and I hope he will explain. Here is what Bubba posted adjacent to the verses above:
    Bubba Johnson Jr

     
    What are “all these things”?
    How does Exodus 1:6 help us to understand the meaning of “generation”?
    To what particular generation was Jesus referring?
    What two groups make up “this generation”?
    How do Jesus’ words indicate that we are living deep in the time of the end?
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in who is referred to here?   
    Asking about, for example, how many  JW witnesses groups exist, can bring us to answers as: Past and Present, Loyal and Not Loyal, Zeal and not Zeal, Discreet and Non Discreet, Died and Alive .... etc. What would be benefit of such research?
    You can used the same methods for "anointed". And come to similar answers.    
    What is the purpose for your question, and by what methods, by what tools, you want to making operation upon verses to see what is the content under the skin? :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    I'm curious how the convention grapples with 1 John 4:18:
     There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
    In a haven of well-practiced "punishment", does love exist?  In such an environment, would fear not exist?
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    (Edited)
    When Rutherford gave that speech, did he have his listeners' interests at heart?  This was nothing but a lie that people like you believed in, and lived for. From 1918 to 1925 his message was preached with anticipation and excitement, by members like you.    (The Proclaimer’s Book called it “an exciting message”)  When the dust settled, did he have remorse for misleading the congregants? No, he shifted the blame for his false prediction on the members.   
    “It was stated in the ‘Millions’ book that we might reasonably expect them (referring to the resurrection) to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion; besides it is still shortly after 1925. … Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything.” Watch Tower 1926 pp.196, 232
    How many do you believe were stumbled to see the blame put on them? Was it merely an expressed opinion?  Or was it taught as truth?
     “The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel. Viewing the present situation in Europe, one wonders how it will be possible to hold back the explosion much longer; and that even before 1925 the great crisis will be reached and probably passed.” Watch Tower 1922 Sep 1 p.262
    Does this shifting of the blame sound familiar? It should.  You just recently saw it in action regarding 1975.  Did these two mistakes happen “while keeping on the watch”?
    The leaders of the Watchtower may have various personalities, but their vision is the same; to keep their listeners in their seats by promising them a paradise based on empty speeches.  No, this is not about me, but about the anointed ones in the organization, as well as all JWs who are captivated by WT’s empty promises.   It is about YOU.
    Col 2:8 - "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world, rather than on Christ." 
    JWs have bought into the organization’s setting the bar higher for the philosophies of the world, and lower for its own philosophies or “empty speeches”.  The instituting of new light when an old prophesy fails is quite the opposite of what God expects of his anointed priests.
     “And now, you priests, this warning is for you. 2 If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor My name,” says the Lord Almighty, “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor Me.
    3 “Because of you I will rebuke your descendants; I will smear on your faces the dung from your festival sacrifices, and you will be carried off with it. 4 And you will know that I have sent you this warning so that my covenant with Levi may continue,” says the Lord Almighty. 5 “My covenant was with him, a covenant of life and peace, and I gave them to him; this called for reverence and he revered Me and stood in awe of My name. 6 True instruction was in his mouth and nothing false was found on his lips. He walked with Me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from sin.
    7 “For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth. 8 But you have turned from the way and by your teaching have caused many to stumble; you have violated the covenant with Levi,”says the Lord Almighty. 9 “So I have caused you to be despised and humiliated before all the people, because you have not followed My ways but have shown partiality in matters of the law.”  Mal 2:1-9
    The GB does not honor God with their failed predictions that you excuse as a moment of ‘”making a mistake while keeping on the watch”.   They are more concerned about honoring their organization…and apparently dancing to its beat, as seen in Brazil.  And, worldly organizations do make mistakes. 
    There is a distinction made between your god and its GB head, and the God I’m learning to know, who expects the truth His Son has given us, to be the only truth to be heard.  His truth is in the Bible, not in the corrupt minds of men, who are doing the most damage to the anointed ones of “Israel”.  They will not be sealed if lies are “found in their mouth”.    Zeph 3:13; Rev 14:15; 3:18    Satan, knows this.  2 Thess 2:9-12
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Oh, very well. Sign up for her as your ‘anointed’ source, if you like.  You two deserve each other.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    @JOHN BUTLER and @Witness explained enough to open readers mind. WT Society making constant "wind teachings" under explanation/justification of "Brighter Light" mantra. All previous teachings that JW members stop to believe were exactly this: falsely called knowledge. In other words, past knowledge is not/was not Truth. It is False Truth. Otherwise it/doctrines would stay to be  applicable and accurate until today.
    Do I see your jealousy and envy? :)))
    ... you offer "empty" explanation TTH, ... sorry, have to tell you this :)) 
    .... but seriously, you again going to transfer blame from GB (WTJWORG Management)  to holy spirit.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
    26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.  Acts 10:25,26
     
    "Everything is yours" - every gift within the Body is a benefit to each member..."There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord.  There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone each one, just as he determines.   All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines."  1 Cor 12:4,6,11
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    This is as far as read.  You continue to be so blind!  "Empty speeches" are foundation of your organization.   As an example, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness  1 Cor 3:19  
    In this case, Paul is speaking of “wisdom” of the “crafty” religious leaders; as an example, the Pharisees who misled the people with their “worldly” wisdom added to the law.  
    For whenever someone says, “I belong to Paul,” and another, “I belong to Apollos,” are you not acting like mere humans?     What then is Apollos? What is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, and each has the role the Lord has given. 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7 So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 
    He refers to God’s spiritual House/Temple in the anointed ones. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22  Of course, within the Watchtower are those who believe they are “wise” and have labeled themselves before Christ has returned, as “faithful and discreet”, and all eyes fall on the GB to lead them. It is so blatantly seen by some on this forum.    Paul says that each member of the body is just as precious as the other, in their apportioned roles.  Rom 12:3-8  This is not the case in the WT.  The GB and their role, is the only role to acknowledge.  Matt 24:48-51
     “Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks he is wise in this age, let him become a fool so that he can become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness; 20 and again, The Lord knows that the reasonings of the wise are futile. 21 So let no one boast in human leaders, for everything is yours— 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come—everything is yours, 23 and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.
    He is saying that within this anointed Body, their only Head is Jesus Christ. Eph 4:15  However, all JWs “boast” in their human leaders.  They must, or they are threatened with disfellowshipping,  by the employment of craftiness.  Rev 13: 11,15
     JWs are totally immersed in the “wisdom of this world” that their human leaders provide for them.  They have become “fools” for following this wisdom.  It is not too late to become wise, according to the teachings of Christ.  Proverbs chapter 4
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    @TrueTomHarley  Thank you giving me a laugh. You are so funny and your writings are fit for a  comedy show. 
    A quote from your above writing. in order that we should no longer be babes, tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error.”  
    Now think on this Tom. Your GB say that they are NOT INSPIRED AND THEREFORE CAN ERR................ 
    The scripture you quoted says just that. every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error.  error = ERR
    trickery of men, cunning  (your GB)  OVERLAPPING GENERATIONS, SUPERIOR AUTHORITIES, Blood issue, shunning issue, CSA.  
     “the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge”
    What, just watch some of those cringy videos your GB produces. 
    absurd charges that they want to “control” people.
    Um, JW's are told not to have their own opinions on scripture and not to talk against the GB. 
    Tom, you are blind to the facts about your own organisation. 
    I'm not saying God can never use it, but it needs so much cleaning out and rethinking. And of course it needs the true remnant of Anointed to run this early side of things. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    My wife is intelligent enough and wide awake enough to KNOW what she heard said from the platform, BUT as usual a JW has to throw insults as the only answer they have. 
    TTH was saying something about building up, not knocking down, but JW's that dislike a comment on here just have to be negative to the one that has written the comment. Not even constructive criticism, just insults. 
    SO WHERE IS THE LOVE IN YOUR BEING INSULTING ? 
    Come on then, take on JTR Jr's challenge and tell us all what wonderful NEW things you have learnt from the convention.
    I would not even waste my time or fuel money going there. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    An interesting note: In EIGHT PAGES of this thread (unless I missed something ...) the FIRST menntion of something new coming from a regional "Love Never Fails" convention is John Butler's Wife's completely believable account!
    But, even that .... is not even new.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    My wife went to the Friday morning session just to please one of her daughters. When my wife came home she said she had learnt that 'wisdom' is bad for you. At least that was what the brother on the platform was saying. 
    My wife was most upset by that 'talk' basically saying not to learn anything. Or only learn from the Org. Even she can see how bad the talks are getting. They seem to be really pushing this idea of not getting a good education. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Shiwiii in NEWSWEEK : WHAT DOES TRUMP THINK ABOUT PUTIN’S WAR ON RELIGION?   
    Did you never heard how WT Society speaking about JHVH as Husband and His Zion Organization as Wife? This Mother has "children" around the world - congregations :))) in fact many JW brothers and sister consider Earthly Image of God's Kingdom aka WT Society as their "spiritual mother".  
    In Legal terminology and Business issue,  WT Society had formed many "sister companies" under various and different names around the globe. Each congregation is separate Legal Entity too, and in short jargon way i said how WT Society is "Mother" in both ways, spiritually and legally. :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    In all of 85% content and in all of 15% content, what i like is honesty and sincerity, everything else is questionable and not impressed me any more :))
    When You or any other JW member speak (preach) how we people have to be honest, good, love our neighbor, not to kill, not to lie or about  some other moral quality i can Upvote for that.  If you mean on JW Theology..? .... that is something else and it deserve Downvotes many times. ....... And You already know this :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    In all of 85% content and in all of 15% content, what i like is honesty and sincerity, everything else is questionable and not impressed me any more :))
    When You or any other JW member speak (preach) how we people have to be honest, good, love our neighbor, not to kill, not to lie or about  some other moral quality i can Upvote for that.  If you mean on JW Theology..? .... that is something else and it deserve Downvotes many times. ....... And You already know this :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    They already know this deep into their souls, Srecko Sostar .... but their AGENDA of defending the indefensible will not allow them to admit to it.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    JW must defend The Same Truth :))))) ..... you mean on today, present, temporary, official in this moment ... truth ?  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    In all of 85% content and in all of 15% content, what i like is honesty and sincerity, everything else is questionable and not impressed me any more :))
    When You or any other JW member speak (preach) how we people have to be honest, good, love our neighbor, not to kill, not to lie or about  some other moral quality i can Upvote for that.  If you mean on JW Theology..? .... that is something else and it deserve Downvotes many times. ....... And You already know this :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    We do want to be fair about this Srecko .... since the Watchtower Lawyers and Accountants are now serving as Bishops to the Pope, er...  "helpers" to the Governing Body, and our theology (blood fractions, overlapping generations, and confiscation of all global KH resources, etc.) is being dictated by them, including court cases and the pursuit of Justice .... they may have very legitimate business reasons to , after carefully giving MANY scriptural reasons why "Old Truth" was the word of God, and now with just as many reasons  the "New Truth" is the word of God, to completely rework and redefine our theology.
    Give 'em a break now and then !
    They are trying to run a global business here with 8 million employees, and they are trying VERY HARD not to use SPECTRE and the organizational acumen of Ernst Stavro Blofeld, affectionally known as "Brother Hans", because as we have read before in the "Questions From Readers", the Governing Body HATES cats.
     

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