Srecko Sostar

Yeah ......and after we repeat something he was said, from Bible, we continue with our safe interpretation of meaning :)))
 

Re making interest by way of bank or stock market:
(Matthew 25:24-27) 24 “Finally the slave who had received the one talent came forward and said: ‘Master, I knew you to be a demanding man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went and hid your talent in the ground. Here, you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him: ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you should have deposited my money with the bankers, and on my coming I would have received it back with interest.
 
Jesus acknowledged the bankers' work (and the methods they use to get interest). If the bankers gamble with your money (in the stock market  - every single bank [international development bank and commercial bank] has a department that invests in stocks) and make interest you don't usually complain and ask how the interest was made and wherein they invested your money.  You put out your hand and take the interest.  It is like what Paul said:
(1 Corinthians 10:25, 26)" 25 Eat whatever is sold in a meat market, making no inquiry because of your conscience, 26 for “to Jehovah belong the earth and everything in it.” 
 

We can safely say what Jesus said

JTR Jr said "The only reason I did not "upvote" TTH's excellent post was this quoted line .... as my experiences and observations have been quite different.  Congregational trials disallow representation, recordings, witnesses to the proceedings,  or transcripts, and are held in secret, and the results often secret as well." 
It is the fact that they have been kept secret for so long that has resulted in so many court cases Earthwide now. And if TTH thinks the GB / JW Org / W/t has a much better track record it must be because A. the internal 'court cases' have been kept secret, B. There are far more worldly cases than JW cases. 
I like that JTR Jr uses the expression " than OUR system, where everything is done in darkness, behind closed doors, and anonymously.
Luke 8 v 17. is a good scripture here. 
And I just have to repeat what James wrote here :-
It is an abomination when the Nations have a better system than we do,  and THEIR Justice System imitates what we know from the Bible worked well for thousands of years .... and OUR Congregational system imitates how it is done by tyrants practicing evil.
So James, do you still invite people into your Kingdom Hall ? Do you still go on the ministry ? 
Do you invite innocent people to be taught by tyrants practicing evil. ?
I'm sure you and others are beginning to understand why i left that 'collection of organisations'. 

February 2017 Watchtower:
Page 26, Paragraph 12
"The Governing Body is neither inspired, nor infallible.
Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction."
 
DUH!
 

True Justice ONLY comes from Jehovah God and Jesus Christ .... all else, without exception, is only PERHAPS an attempt at Justice.
That is why the process is called "Due Process".
You get the process that is due ... HOPEFULLY it will approximate Justice.
The only reason I did not "upvote" TTH's excellent post was this quoted line .... as my experiences and observations have been quite different.  Congregational trials disallow representation, recordings, witnesses to the proceedings,  or transcripts, and are held in secret, and the results often secret as well.
I would prefer my case (if any) to be heard by a jury of 12 men, good and true, with all the above deficiencies not present, any day, on any subject.
For several thousand years the Jews had a system like that, EVERYTHING open, transparent, and public .... with trials held in the city gates, for all to see, and comment, and KNOW that either Justice had been served or that it had been perverted.
The Nations of the World's model of seeking Justice more closely resembles that ... than OUR system, where everything is done in darkness, behind closed doors, and anonymously.
I was the subject of a Congregational Committee Trial once, and the three judging me REFUSED TO TELL ME THEIR NAMES.
Can you imagine a trial in the USA where you cannot know the names of those judging you?
It is an abomination when the Nations have a better system than we do,  and THEIR Justice System imitates what we know from the Bible worked well for thousands of years .... and OUR Congregational system imitates how it is done by tyrants practicing evil.
... And that's the fact, Jack.
 

@TrueTomHarley
Everyone walking in the mud has muddy shoes 

@TrueTomHarley
Everyone walking in the mud has muddy shoes 

Are they, all this different entities and advisors in the one and same "channel of communication" ? Because GB doctrine teach that existing Only One Channel of Communication in mediating, of what is god's word and will, between god and JW members? 
All Lawyers, who working in all this various entities and corporations, to support religion of JW, have successfully produced a network of wells and channels by which water goes in all directions and from many sources.
Can such water be safe for drinking?

Some Experienced people puts money in a STOCKS     :)))))))

Are they, all this different entities and advisors in the one and same "channel of communication" ? Because GB doctrine teach that existing Only One Channel of Communication in mediating, of what is god's word and will, between god and JW members? 
All Lawyers, who working in all this various entities and corporations, to support religion of JW, have successfully produced a network of wells and channels by which water goes in all directions and from many sources.
Can such water be safe for drinking?

Anyone who has any money at all must park it somewhere when not in immediate use. Large swaths of the market far emphasize safety of principle over its increase. After all, if you do nothing at all, you lose your principle due to inflation.

TTH that is fantastic. Best one on here that I've seen. 
On a more serious note though. If as I think you said, the GB /Wt / JW Org (who it seems are 3 separate entities ) are investing in the 'stocks', is it possible to trace exactly what stocks they are investing in.  There are always rumours of course but is it possible to find the truth. Do any of those 3 have to publicly show who they are investing in ? 
Another strange thing, if they are 'charities' non profit making, then surely 'playing the stock exchange' is making profit. 

The only two things we can safely say about  "this generation" (the contentious one) is that:
1.  It will pass.
2.  At a day and hour which no man knows.
 

Should/could this sort of worldly basic idea be possible to find in this spiritual advice: "Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves." 
If yes, perhaps Jesus was not only spiritual Teacher but also successful Wall Street Investment Advisor?

This is NOT the Kingdom Hall, Billy.
If you want to have credibility, HERE you have to say things that are credible .... AND PROVE THEM.
Every time you come out with a statement that is not common knowledge to MOST EVERYONE ... when called on it, you HAVE TO PROVE IT.
If you don't you get less and less respect and credibility every time you ignore a legitimate question, or change the subject.
I really wanted to believe you had a 50 caliber sniper rifle ... that would be sooooo cool, as far as I am concerned ... and perhaps you really do ... but because you ignored my question about how you acquired it, and avoided expounding, added to this "actor claim" choke,  I can't believe anything you say, if it is not obvious common knowledge.

Do you ever get the subtle impression ... somewhere in the back of your mind ... perhaps when it's late at night and the house is very quiet, and you can hear the battery powered clock in the next room ticking ... that it is the Lawyers and Accountants at Warwick and Colony Park, NY, that are running the show?

If you count your fingers twice, you will get 16 fingers. If you include thumbs, and also count them twice, you will get 20 digits. If you include the palms of your hands, you can slap your face and yell "I'm an idiot!"
...but however you do it, it does not affect your wallet, as the money continues to pour in.
Theology One-Oh_One. (101).

You are talking from a 'worldly viewpoint', I was meaning from a more scriptural / moral viewpoint of honesty, hard work and conscience.
Basically the GB / Org allows the stock market just like Moses allowed divorce. And it seems for the same reason the Society allowed smoking up until 1970 even though they knew it was wrong in the late 1800's.
They are frightened to offend too many people, as it would mean less money in the pot from contributions. 
 

The point is ... that you don't get splattered with YOUR OWN blood.
Jehovah highly values all blood .... but I would like to keep my body full,  with no leaks.
As far as it depends on you ... be peaceable with all men.
...sometimes it does not depend on you.
Even the Society, not known for common sense, does not restrict gun ownership for defense except for appointed Elders and such ... which is a very good idea, actually.
 

No. @Srecko Sostaris the one who raised the subject. Take it up with him.

So the Lawyers of JW Org / Wt are not highly educated. The designers of the new HQ / Bethal are not educated. 
The designers of the means of translation into all the world's languages are not educated. 
Your GB are not educated. The Board of Directors are not highly educated.
In fact it seems by your opinion that no one in the W/t or JW Org is educated. 
Um, so i wonder how they wriggle out of paying the fines and compensations that they should pay.
i wonder how they've managed to fight court battles to get the freedom to preach in many places. 
I wonder who does the accounts at the top. 
I wonder who arranges planning permission for so many K/hs earthwide. 
And now you will probably try to pretend it is done with God's guidance through Jesus Christ. 
This stupid idea of trying to compare the times of Jesus and his disciples/apostles, with the times right here and now, is so pathetic. Even comparing now to 100 years ago is stupid. Here in the UK people could do and say things years ago that they cannot do or say now. There was working class hands on work here that is not here now. So all this comparing means nothing. 
Education means being able to support a family properly.
It also means, what the GB does not want, that people can do research in books, on the internet and communicate in many ways. All you are doing is being a parrot to the GB and it's Org. You are trying to convince people that having a good education is a bad thing. 
As for your stupid idea about higher education causing the troubles here on this earth. YOU well know WHO causes the troubles here on this earth. It is the Devil and his Demons. Matters not what education you have, you can be serving the devil even if you have the lowest education available. In fact in my opinion, if you do not try to gain knowledge then you are not using the brain that God gave you. 
Just one tiny thought, bloodless surgery and cell salvage, invented by whom ? Uneducated were they. 
 
 

Look how organized the Latter Day Saints are, and how they accomplish their work.  Although, I would guess many Mormons may share your sentiments, that in spite of this ruling entity, they see how well they do in spite of them - over 16 million members.  
The First Presidency
The First Presidency is the highest governing body of the Church. Its members are special witnesses of the name of Jesus Christ, called to teach and testify of Him throughout the world. Members of the First Presidency travel around the world to speak to members and local leaders; when not traveling, they counsel together and with other general Church leaders on matters affecting the worldwide Church, such as missionary work, temple building and spiritual and temporal welfare.
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles is the second-highest presiding body in the government of the Church. Its members travel the world as special witnesses of the name of Christ and serve under the direction of the First Presidency.
Presidency of the Seventy
The Presidency of the Seventy consists of seven General Authority Seventies who are called by the First Presidency and given authority to preside over the various Quorums of the Seventy.
General Authority Seventies
General Authority Seventies preach the gospel and serve as special witnesses of Christ to the world. They assist the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ throughout the world.
Presiding Bishopric
The Presiding Bishopric consists of the Presiding Bishop and his two counselors. Each holds the office of bishop, and they serve under the direct supervision of the First Presidency. The Presiding Bishopric is responsible for many of the Church’s temporal affairs.
Etc, etc. Looking at the "Quorum of the Twelve Apostles", I could see how they could chase away a lot of people.  
As we know, the Mormon religion is based on lies even though they preach about the Christ.    2 Cor 11:4
 

Why is it, then, that tracts of the past were written with more substance? Is it because they were all smarter back then, having gone to college? 
Why don’t you ask JTR about that?
(However, DON’T try to tap him for the next generation of tracts.)
No. They are simplifying the tracts to reflect today’s reading level. No need to read anything more into it than that.

This is the only full length photo of me I could find, but it was taken about 1968, when I had more hair.
Of course, that was 50 years ago, but you can see the resemblance ....
*coff*
 

 
 

....sigh ... I sure miss that car ....