Srecko Sostar

1) Can you die falling off a mountain? And if so, are you dead forever?
2) Can you swim in the ocean and die from fatigue?
2A) Die from drowning?
3) What if you stand in a bonfire?
4) What if you eat homemade recipes that are copies of the originals?  Will you just blow up to 800 pounds but NEVER die? Or will a perfect body be able to eat anything as often as you want and be thin all the time ……?? ( I think the JWs think there will not be overweight people in the New System)
5) How long can you hold you breath in the New system? 2 Minutes? 10 Minutes? 10 hours? ?
BONUS:
6) Is everyone expected to pray 100 times a day and talk about Jehovah and sing Kingdom Melodies? Will we die from that?
7) What happens to resurrected people that lived years ago who don't want to be witnesses? Don't they get resurrected and get taught ? What if Blackbeard says to screw off? Does he just POOF away?

To read and find out the experiences of other people have great value.
However, this may become a problem if the solution to some of the life situations, that somebody has achieved, wishes to imitate in full or in full imagined detail (details that are not known to anyone who read the article).

Another issue, even bigger, arises when publisher's article tries to direct his readers to the idea how this is the way. And how that process of attempts to act, in similar or the same  way, would be blessed by God.
And as more dangerous is idea, how exactly this way is the only right way.

Uhmmm. Guilty as charged!

Yes, that is what will most likely happen

:))))  never on Sunday! 
... with one exception; if parents are reasonable and realistic people, they will give a child a new $ which will replace the one who ended up in the donation box. That would be 2 $ per Sunday, but children happiness is priceless !!!

Oh dear what a way to waste time. You lot must have more spare time than me  but I'm retired.
This stupid conversation leaves behind all the serious problems within the JW Org. 
Maybe that is people's plan though.
Whilst i have a good laugh at all you so called intelligent folks talking such rubbish, i still think on more important matters. 
I hope you are all having a good day, as long as you are not hurting others. 
Someone please start a sensible topic for or against the GB  / JW Org. 
Meanwhile I'll go on my ebay page whilst listening to Joe Cocker.  
 

Shelly Braieoux (BCG) on ABC news April 8, 2019

My personal opinion, i think the closed circuit blood rule is a bit too extreme.... i will be more than happy to use my own blood stored in blood bags for surgery.

haha, this reminds on old one - better to be live dog than dead lion. But dog will never be a lion, he will have dog's life :))) and that is ok so far as you consider yourself what you are - a dog, but problems can come at the moment when dog consider self to be a lion (with or without leg .... of course it would be easier with all legs)   

Perhaps we can mention another important aspect. Self-sacrifice.
The Bible, a book WTJWORG so passionately wants to promote in the lives of people, a believer, gives examples when an individual gives up on something he has the right to use or have.
Little Sophia, in a cartoon, has the all right to consume ice cream on Sunday after the meeting, BUT, "mature Christians" aka GB at JWTV, learns her and all other, she has to give up of ice cream that costs $ 1.
TM the III has the freedom to drink what he wants. But can he to give up of buying and drinking his " Sunday ice cream", on Sunday or on any day of the week. Does TM want to donate his personal sacrifice to the "Interests of the Kingdom"?
It is all about/ to show SELF-SACRIFICE to the/towards people (and to the God).

Hi Jack Ryan!
As we can notice Jworg has various types of current JW members. Also, exJws are sometimes product of some specific circumstances when they was inside org. To ask, why exJW are rude, is not good way of asking about what and why some exJw doing in prosess of living and after they are out of org. Because, from such question you releasing idea how exJw are in fact rude. Some are very active in opposing to WT and some are not. Where is the line when firm stand against WT going to "rude"  behavior is matter of perspective.
Thanks and greetings!   

Barbara Anderson shares some of the details of her history dating back to the years when she was an active volunteer at the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's New York headquarters. She watched as the leadership and ethics of Jehovah's Witnesses changed during her time there. Now she is an activist, writer, and documentarian on behalf of Watchtower victims that include abused children and women and members of broken families.

It might be possible that God will protect a person is He wants to, but as for God protecting JW's as a group then no way.
I knew an older 'brother' whose wife died because she refused to have a blood transfusion. He was very upset at his loss.
Then a few years later the same older brother's son died whilst riding a motorbike home from a JW assembly. 
The dear old brother was at a total loss. Probably for comfort, i don't know, but the old brother remarried. She was a 'lady of colour' from America, a nice friendly lady. But the marriage didn't last long. 
The old brother's other son who had been a ministerial servant, left the JW Org under strange circumstances it seems. I always wanted to go visit that young lad but was basically told not to, and as I don't know his exact address then I could not go there alone.
So that is one poor old brother that lost his first wife, his oldest son, and his younger son, so I've been told, has had a nervous breakdown. 
Only his daughter remain as a JW.................  So it seems that God does not 'help' or 'protect' JW's. 
 
 

“If Jehovah protected every single one of his servants from any and all hardship at all times, what would satan say? That we only serve Jehovah because he makes our lives easy.”

Religious leader teaches children to donate their "ice cream money" to him for God. Same religious leader gets caught buying $1000 of top shelf scotch.
This guy presents videos to teach children they should give up their "ice cream money" to donate it to the organization instead. He's literally training children to give up any enjoyable things they might want to buy, to give to him and his buddies instead.
Then he gets caught here, on a Sunday morning when he's supposed to be at a meeting or ministering, buying almost $1000 of top shelf scotch instead.
The issue is not buying or drinking alcohol. It's the hypocrisy of it. Plus the fact that it was probably paid for with donations from his followers. But that cannot be proven.

Perhaps we can mention another important aspect. Self-sacrifice.
The Bible, a book WTJWORG so passionately wants to promote in the lives of people, a believer, gives examples when an individual gives up on something he has the right to use or have.
Little Sophia, in a cartoon, has the all right to consume ice cream on Sunday after the meeting, BUT, "mature Christians" aka GB at JWTV, learns her and all other, she has to give up of ice cream that costs $ 1.
TM the III has the freedom to drink what he wants. But can he to give up of buying and drinking his " Sunday ice cream", on Sunday or on any day of the week. Does TM want to donate his personal sacrifice to the "Interests of the Kingdom"?
It is all about/ to show SELF-SACRIFICE to the/towards people (and to the God).

Billy the Kid:  "I won’t be impressed by Liyod Evans attempt to demonize the GB just like Butler and witness. Until I see something on the news as a headline. This topic had no value, to begin with."
As Billy points the finger to the Catholic religion, which shows he is comparing the Watchtower to all other religious organizations and their sins....and which pretty much proves that the Watchtower does not belong to God....
...has any JW wondered what the world of “Christendom” thinks of what Anthony Morris did that Sunday?  JWs are to portray themselves as a “clean people”, and moderate in all things and in all habits.  Here is the perspective of someone who has never been a JW as you can tell by some of his beliefs. 
But, he has made some very important points for all JWs to consider. 
The world appears to be watching the Watchtower organization.
 
 

You learn in self defense, most people freeze in these situations.

Wt. 11/7/15 - “HOW DO FALSE TEACHERS OPERATE? THEIR METHODS REVEAL A CUNNING SPIRIT. APOSTATES “QUIETLY BRING IN” CORRUPTIVE IDEAS. LIKE SMUGGLERS, THEY OPERATE IN A CLANDESTINE MANNER, SUBTLY INTRODUCING APOSTATE VIEWS”.
It begins benignly, truthfully, like this:
Wt. 1882, pgs 71-71 – “BEWARE OF ‘ORGANIZATION’. It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. DO NOT SEEK TO BIND OTHERS’ CONSCIENCES, AND DO NOT PERMIT OTHERS TO BIND YOURS. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God’s Word today, and so continue growing in grace and knowledge and love day by day”.
And escalates into this:
Wt. 11/15/81 “Make haste to IDENTIFY the visible theocratic ORGANIZATION of God that represents his king, Jesus Christ. IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR LIFE. Doing so, be complete in accepting its every aspect”.
Wt. 13/11/15 –“ At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from JEHOVAH’S ORGANIZATION may not appear practical from a human standpoint. ALL OF US MUST BE READY TO OBEY any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.”
Rev 16:13,14:
“And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth, (the anointed ones Rev 1:5) and of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.”
We are aware that a fertilized egg of a frog is laid in a mass under water. In a few days, a tadpole is formed, and eventually, the metamorphosis is complete, as a mature frog has developed. Even the diet during this process changes from grasses to meat.
In the Watchtower, what begins as a scriptural truth, becomes a full-fledged lie, sourced in Satan’s “sea”, that consumes the individual who submits his mind and heart to it. Each beginning of a lie is part of many, that the Watchtower has ‘morphed’ over the years. These teachings have become unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Rev 13:1,2 (Prov 14:25) 
 
Again, from the WT 11/7/15:
“AND JUST AS A CLEVER FORGER TRIES TO PASS PHONY DOCUMENTS, SO APOSTATES USE ‘COUNTERFEIT WORDS’, OR FALSE ARGUMENTS, TRYING TO PASS THEIR FABRICATED VIEWS AS IF THEY WERE TRUE.” 
Here's an example of a fabricated view:
Wt. 14/1/15 - “How did Jehovah become King in 1914, and what were some of the Kingdom’s early accomplishments? The subsequent famines, earthquakes, and pestilences as well as the fulfillment of other Bible prophecies proved CONCLUSIVELY that Jesus Christ had begun to rule in heaven as King of God’s Kingdom in 1914. By enthroning his Son as the Messianic King, Jehovah had, indeed, become King in a new sense!” 
The SYMBOLIC famines, earthquakes, pestilences are the labor pains that PRECEDE the birth of God’s Kingdom. This is the natural order of birth. Luke 21:8,9; Mark 13:8; Ezek 22:28  
 “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your ]composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a MESSAGE OR A LETTER AS IF FROM US, TO THE EFFECT THAT THE DAY OF THE LORD HAS COME. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.” 2 Thess 2:1-4
Watchtower continues: 
“THEY SPREAD 'DECEPTIVE TEACHINGS,' 'TWISTING'...THE SCRIPTURES TO FIT THEIR OWN IDEAS. (2 Pet. 2:1, 3, 13; 3:16)” 
Twisting the scriptures, and creating new doctrine such as:
Wt 02/8/1 - “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. Hebrews 13:7,17" 
JWs, go back to the scriptures to find the truth:
Num 18:7 - “But you and your sons will carry out your priestly responsibilities for everything concerning the altar and for what is inside the veil, and you will do that work. I am giving you the work of the priesthood as a gift, BUT AN UNAUTHORIZED PERSON WHO COMES NEAR THE SANCTUARY WILL BE PUT TO DEATH."
 Who are the Temple sanctuary?  1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 2Chron.13:9; Ezek 22:26;Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:31; Matt.24:15; Rev 11:1,2
“CLEARLY, APOSTATES DO NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART. FOLLOWING THEM WOULD DIVERT US FROM THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE”. 
Shepherd the Flock book, page 65 (the previous version) – 
“Apostasy is a standing away from true worship, a falling away, defection, rebellion.”
It includes: 
“Deliberately spreading teachings contrary to bible truth…
AS TAUGHT BY JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES”
 
 
Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
“The Kingdom—1914?”
“The Sign of the End”
 
 

Yes, that is true.

Being as tall as I am,  living in the future is no picnic.
Keep getting hit by flying cars.