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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Exactly. You, as an AUTHOR, should have been aware of copyright, even before JWI obscured, the fair use, view. So, what makes your works better, that it needs YOUR PERMISSION, from, that of the Watchtowers, that people think they DON’T need permission from the Watchtower to publish ANY of their copyrighted material. If, you’re NOT willing to subject your own published works to the same standard, then, don’t advocate, the infringement of the Watchtower copyrighted material.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Religious organizations do a limited Q&A to confirm or refute some underline claim, by others. The Bible Students used their publications for rebuttal. However, there are circumstances that even the Watchtower has to be given permission to use information that is copyrighted. They also GRANT permission too many that have an interest in the Watchtower publications, History and Chronology.

    None of which is Granted automatically, as its being abused here. I used your position as an Author to make a point, not directly to you, BUT EVERYONE HERE. This includes Witnesses, opposers, and the OWNER, that contributed this hilarious controversial portion of this website for people to malign the Watchtower.

    Just, like you wouldn’t want your works stolen, what makes anyone think the Watchtower does?

     
    Ephesians 4:28 World English Bible (WEB)

     
    28 Let him who stole steal no more; but rather let him labor, producing with his hands something that is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need.

    World English Bible (WEB)

     
    By Public Domain. The name "World English Bible" is trademarked.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Under the law, ignorance is no excuse or substitute to make a defense. First, you would start, by not justifying the abuse, and then, ask yourself, which laws you think can be broken to satisfy defamation.

    God starts with your heart, where, does those calling themselves witnesses, START!!

    Then anyone can use you published work without your permission, just because you think “fair use” is “fair game”. That's amusing coming from you.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    What does misrepresenting scripture have to do with ACADEMIA?

    Academia is an aggregate for learning and teaching. Critics of the Watchtower have NO value in teaching other than to distort what the Watchtower teaching is by whining like 6-year-old, little girls.

    For once, be honest with its definition other than to impose hypothetical, speculative, conjectural, impractical, and unrealistic views to the lies (John 8:44,) perpetrated by unscrupulous people.

    Adjective

    1. Of or relating to a college, academy, school, or other educational institution, especially one for higher education: academic requirements.

    2. Pertaining to areas of study that are not primarily vocational or applied, as the humanities or pure mathematics.

    3. Theoretical or hypothetical; not practical, realistic, or directly useful: an academic question; an academic discussion of a matter already decided.

    4. Learned or scholarly but lacking in worldliness, common sense, or practicality.

    5. Conforming to set rules, standards, or traditions; conventional: academic painting.

    6. Acquired by formal education, especially at a college or university: academic preparation for the ministry.

    7. (initial capital letter) of or relating to Academe or to the Platonic school of philosophy.

    Noun

    8. A student or teacher at a college or university.

    9. A person who is academic in background, attitudes, methods, etc.: He was by temperament an academic, concerned with books and the arts.

    10. (Initial capital letter) a person who supports or advocates the Platonic school of philosophy.

    11. Academics, the scholarly activities of a school or university, as classroom studies or research projects: more emphasis on academics and less on athletics.

     

    So, NO! There is NOTHING academic about this portion of the forum. It’s fool’s gold to think otherwise. That’s just an excuse to toe the party line, nothing more.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    If you mean, stick to bible principle and the teachings of Christ? Then you are correct. Other than that, its people like you that dumbfound the prospect. Did anyone see Jesus on an Arabian horse or a donkey? You’re nothing more than an enabler of false narratives and propaganda. What kind of Academia is that? And whats your excuse?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in Coincidence or Correlation?   
    Excellent, Good for you.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    First, even an unscholarly website, committed to biblical learning, runs a gambit of truthful research, NOT critical personal opinions. What do personal opinions advance, in academia?
    What is your opinion based on and Why? Manipulating, distorting, and misrepresenting the Watchtower literature for one's personal gain, is a meaningless endeavor. The same opinions, RECYCLED by millions of ex-witnesses and HATERS of the truth? Jesus went through that, and it got him killed. By who, the same people that were waiting for the Messiah, with an earthly Kingdom, instead of accepting the Son of God with a heavenly Kingdom. What’s the difference between the two, exploits, against the truth?
    The rest is up to interpretation. Once again, what is the criticism of the Watchtower, that is REFLECTIVE, and based on scripture?
    The contribution then falls in the interpretation of scripture, yet the HATRED of the Watchtower, just like Jesus, takes center stage, just as in the past. So, who are the Critics of the Watchtower, if not, the same kind of people that were critical of Christ. Aside from that, everything just goes around in circles, and everyone that personally criticizes, just to criticize, is no better than the people that got Jesus killed. GREAT JOB!!!
    YouÂ’re really having a positive influence on HATRED!! But then again, so did Hitler LOL!!!!
    Exodus 23:1       
    "You shall not bear a false report; do not join your hand with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.
    Leviticus 19:16  
    'You shall not go about as a slanderer among your people, and you are not to act against the life of your neighbor; I am the LORD.
    2 Timothy 3:3
    Unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
    1 Peter 4:14
    If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
    1 Peter 3:16
    And keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame.
    Matthew 5:11
    "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
     
    Now ask yourself? what does your Christianity or NON-Christian conduct and interpretation, have to offer, if you are committed as the Pharisees were?
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Then, A true Christain should take the initiative to CORRECT a WRONG, for starters. However, misleading, misrepresentation, manipulation, and wrongful interpretation of scripture to win a point doesn’t apply. There is NO scholarly benefit involved, by hearing people whine with their personal opinions. And as you stated, there are plenty of OTHER CHRISTAIN sects, yet, instead of spreading that disdain you speak of, to OTHER religions, and THEIR websites? They chose and single out ONE. The irony and hypocrisy of attempting to reach people by citing Christ message, if those opposed continue to BREAK every law Jesus spoke of as well, by acting like the Pharisees. Therefore, how do you, right a wrong, if you allow false statement flourish. You have SAVVY people? Satan was also SAVVY and knew how to use it. How, savvy is a person coming to this website, with no prior knowledge of the Watchtower, other than all the falsehoods found in websites, like this? And you have commenters, here, professing to be Witnesses that agree with opposers views? Then what's the message from these WITNESSES? Ecclesiastes 9:10. 2 Timothy 4:7, Ephesians 6:12, James 1:12.

    Here’s an Example:

    “The group is not the mouthpiece of any religion, confession or ideology. Biblical studies are a discipline in which representatives of various religions, religions and generally non-religious people participate (atheists, agnostics, etc.). Each member of the group determines for himself the value of these or other materials. 

    Books, articles, quotes and other materials in our group are not related to the consent or disagreement of the moderators with the views expressed in them. The group of scientific and personal religious views of moderators is their own business.

    The goal of the group is educational and enlightening, therefore we publish a variety of things and introduce readers to a wide variety of views.

    Subscribers are NOT allowed to post books or articles in the group's comments. If subscribers wish to exchange books, then this exchange can be made in a personal message. The administration of the group will delete all the added materials of the participants. The need for such measures was that lost the feasibility of the administration works on adding books and articles in a group when you add your comments.”



    Then the question remains to those that continue to be a “stumbling” block, and make an attempt to tear down Christ Body, block by block, by THEIR OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS. Isaiah 59:2, 1 Thessalonians 5:20-22.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in JW's mistaken claim...   
    It’s was the foundation set by the early church fathers and the papacy, after the death of the last APOSTLE. In that sense, there is a difference when it comes to deciding, by what authority, scripture should be accepted. Unfortunately, that power struggle still exists today, and the majority of Christians continue a fruitless endeavor, through misinterpretation.
    A true debate would entail such “false” applications, as the Trinity, Justified Murder through combat, immorality, Hellfire, literal Kingdom of Heaven, on earth, the Physical return of Christ, etc.
    For that, not only do we direct ourselves to scripture, for wisdom? We can also, include those that believe in other religions, and those that honestly believe, GOD is SCIENCE with their interpretation of such wisdom. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Ephesians 5:5.
    Ephesians 5 World English Bible (WEB)
    5 Be therefore imitators of God, as beloved children. 2 Walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling fragrance. 3 But sexual immorality, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not even be mentioned among you, as becomes saints; 4 nor filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not appropriate; but rather giving of thanks.
    The very embodiment of verse 4 that has become the norm in the NAME of ACADEMIA? Where do you go from here? If, only to a path of destruction by GOD’s Standards, NOT the Watchtower’s.
    Quotes:
    When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. –Dresden James
    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease being honest. –Unknown
    There are two mistakes one can make along the road to truth–not starting, and not going all the way.–Buddha
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in Have JWs solved 90% of the child abuse problems plaguing the rest of the world?   
    Saludos hermano Allen. Creo que soy Allen también. Ha! Ha!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in Apostles, Judas, GB, Raymond, Satan, Holy Spirit   
    a algunas personas les gusta impresionar a los demás pretendiendo buscar cosas, cuando ni siquiera conocen a las personas que están buscando. https://www.commentarypress.com/
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Foreigner in Apostles, Judas, GB, Raymond, Satan, Holy Spirit   
    Hermano, deja que el incrédulo tenga su día. No vale la pena el tiempo que se imprime. La mentalidad apóstata es lo que el diablo apoya.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    WT publications shows how JW people have to be obedient to secular law but with exceptions. Disobedience to Secular Law is right way in two cases: If God forbid something or command something different than Secular Law. And second is, if your Conscience told you to do or not to do no matter what is obligated by Secular Law. 
    But WT publications going further to explain to their readers how Your Conscience is not trustful, so it is not good to listen conscience which is not trained by Bible. How person training his conscience? By reading Bible. But reading Bible alone is not enough.Quote:  - What does this illustrate? That our private reading of the Bible is not enough. Jehovah, by his spirit, uses the faithful and discreet slave class to help us to understand his Word at the right time. How is this done? - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002883#h=22
    Well, take then in consideration main thing in this issue - Listening God and what He say you should doing. But here we have again the same problem. WHO will explain you what God teaching people. Again, you need Class of People aka GBFDS Class who will told you, interpret You, what is God Will for You.
    Enjoy.
     In France, for example, people are generally reasonable and fair-minded. However, a few opposers have promoted laws aimed at crippling the Kingdom work. How have Jehovah’s Witnesses there reacted? They have intensified their activity in the field as never before and with thrilling results. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005925
    But how far does this subjection to political authorities go? Is it unlimited? Is obedience to human law even more important than obedience to the law of God? Certainly not! Notice that in the scripture just quoted the “compelling reason” for obedience is said to include “your conscience.” So, one’s conscience is not to be ignored, especially if that conscience has been trained by the Word of God. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101968018
    Thus, your conscience is designed to enable you to evaluate situations, make right choices, and judge yourself on the choices you have made. But can you trust it?...So it is wise to listen to your conscience. But it is wiser still to compare all that we do with God’s will as revealed in his Word. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101993489
    Because our work was banned, the brothers needed to be alert when witnessing.....We often started conversations with those who did not support the Communist government—the so-called dissidents—who tended to be more open-minded.” - https://wol.jw.org/ase/wol/d/r266/lp-asl/202011198
    Every law and statute that is in harmony with righteousness the true Christians will obey in an exemplary fashion. But any law and demand made in conflict with the superior laws and commandments of God they will not obey, for that would mean to render to “Caesar” what belongs to God. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1950841
    We obey the government because that is what God wants us to do. But if we are told to do something that God says we should not do, what should we say?— We should say what the apostles said to the high priest: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men.” - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102003048
    We accept Jehovah’s authority and obey him even if we do not fully understand the reason for some requirement set out in his Word. This is not credulity; it is trust. It reflects heartfelt confidence that Jehovah knows what is good for us.... In accepting Jehovah’s authority, we need to guard against an independent spirit. A haughty attitude can cause us to feel that we do not need guidance from anyone. For example, we might resist counsel given by those taking the lead among God’s people. God has established an arrangement by which a faithful and discreet slave class provides spiritual food at the proper time....14 Accepting Jehovah’s authority involves responding to counsel based on his Word. For example, the faithful and discreet slave class has been admonishing us to “stay awake and keep our senses.”...Spiritual food from the faithful and discreet slave class is disseminated to local congregations by appointed elders. The Bible admonishes us: “Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over your souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you.” (Heb. 13:17) Does this mean that congregation elders are infallible? Of course not! God sees their imperfections more clearly than any human can. Still, he expects us to be submissive. Cooperating with the elders, even though they are imperfect, gives evidence that we accept Jehovah’s authority. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008451
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    The plain and simple answer about your GB is : By their works you will know them. 
    And i judge the GB by their works of dishonesty and lies. Their lack of love for victims. Their putting themselves in the place of Jesus Christ. The way that they have silenced the Anointed. Misused scriptures. Lorded it over the congregation.  And given themselves the title of F&DS there by exalting themselves, and we know what the result of that will be. 
    We have to judge them, otherwise we would just serve blindly.
    Jesus himself judged the Pharisees. The disciples judged Jesus and found him to be the true one to follow. 
    You yourself seem to judge the GB as being God's true servants. That is your judgement and your choice. 
    In my opinion you allow sin to be overlooked in the GB because you look at it from mans viewpoint. 
    But what about God's viewpoint ? How long will He continue putting up with it ? 
    You have judged elders also as you said some of them should not be elders. So if it is God's Organisation and if those elders were appointed with God's holy spirit, why do you say they should not be elders ?
    Isn't that going against God's holy spirit ? 
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    WT is 140 years in wilderness now. All that period they "rowing", from 1879 - 2019, as G.L. proclaimed on JWTV
    IF WTBTS  IS God's chosen nation, they have not much hope and chance to survive. Think a little about history lessons and experience of Old Israel Nation. Their Nation and later Kingdom was always in some problems. Civil Wars inside and Wars on boarders. Always turbulent problems about worshiping, idolatry, morality.  Alliances with other nations and subordination to other superpowers. Exiles and re turnings. Losing Kingdom and Land. Repeatedly rejected by God. 
    What WTBTS inc. have that is above this all? Above the historical and spiritual legacy that this organization claim of self to have as heritage all way along in past to/from Jesus and Abraham?    
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    WT is 140 years in wilderness now. All that period they "rowing", from 1879 - 2019, as G.L. proclaimed on JWTV
    IF WTBTS  IS God's chosen nation, they have not much hope and chance to survive. Think a little about history lessons and experience of Old Israel Nation. Their Nation and later Kingdom was always in some problems. Civil Wars inside and Wars on boarders. Always turbulent problems about worshiping, idolatry, morality.  Alliances with other nations and subordination to other superpowers. Exiles and re turnings. Losing Kingdom and Land. Repeatedly rejected by God. 
    What WTBTS inc. have that is above this all? Above the historical and spiritual legacy that this organization claim of self to have as heritage all way along in past to/from Jesus and Abraham?    
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    I had that same idea ... but it is easier to explain when you use the "Hitler Card" as an illustration.
    I agree with EVERY WORD you said ... but still .... because we are all ... you, me, and everyone, capable of great things and magnificent endeavors of integrity and courage and righteousness ... we are stuck in big ugly bags of mostly water, with brains made mostly of fat.
    ..and the people that try the most ... get tired and exhausted faster.
    When you go to a buffet restaurant ... always check the plates, and knives , forks, and spoons for being having been washed.
    ... and every once and awhile,... in the kitchen.
    "STUFF HAPPENS".
    ... and remember, wherever you go ... there you are!
    Wah-d-do DAH!
    (Translation of the above:  Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater  every time SOMETHING gets clean ... something ELSE gets dirty ...).
    You cannot expect  a bar of aluminum to have the same strength of a bar of steel.
    But steel corrodes ... and so do we.
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    The Kid makes me think of an example.
    A man is arrested for murder. The murder is proved beyond doubt. But, the man says,' IS have murdered many more people than I have'.
    Then the man says ' Hitler was responsible for millions of murders'. 
    'So on that account', the man says, 'I must be innocent, because no one is perfect, and I have done less harm than most' 'So I should be set free' the man says. 
    This seems to be the Kid's way of thinking, and the way of many others too. 
    I've said so many times before, did the priests of the Nation of Israel say' But we didn't offer as many children in the fire to Molech as the other nations did'. 
    Unfortunately most of you are looking at the problem from 'mans' viewpoint. You are making excuses just as any sinner would. 
    You are not looking at the whole situation from God's way of thinking.
    God needs to have a CLEAN HONEST SINCERE LOVING ORGANISATION. 
    JW ORG is NOT the Org it needs to be. It cannot serve God properly the way it is. 
    Perhaps that's why Armageddon has been delayed, maybe no one is worth saving right now.
    Remember that the Nation of Israel was supposed to enter the Promised Land much sooner than they did. 
    They were not worthy so had to spend forty years in the wilderness.
    I wonder how long God will keep people in the 'wilderness' this time. Until He is satisfied that some are serving Him properly that's for sure. 
    This 'mini revolution' within the JW Org could be the turning point. It could wake up the sleeping Anointed ones. Then God could get on with His work.
    Yes I know God could do it all on His own if He wanted to, but He wants people to serve Him willingly and honestly.  
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    Was that something about how Jesus gave life for sinners? And for His Friends too?
    GB friends are JW members? Are they? But they "sold" them to Russian Government, and now they have Legal Battles about multi millions worth Real Estate that was Confiscated.
    2 quotes from JWorg newsroom:
    1) Court to Hear Appeal Against Russian Government Seizure of Witnesses’ National Office
    2) Philip Brumley, General Counsel for Jehovah’s Witnesses, stated: “Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world are greatly disturbed by the harsh persecution of their fellow believers in Russia. Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime.
    In 1) we see how WTinc.  is so worried about Material Things, because they are Owners.
    In 2) we see nothing about JW Neutrality. Bro Brumley using POLITICAL ETIQUETTE when speaking about Legal Matters and JW members by - quote: Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime. How can be that one of top lawyer, in fact General Counsel for JW, who is elder, shepherd, believer, who supposed to be POLITICALLY NEUTRAL, using comparison of late political system with today political system. What COMMUNISM have with JW Church today? What Russia today have with JW Church? What USA have with JW Church? What every and any country with particular political ideology have with JW Church? 
    JW Church and followers considers themselves as Separate Organization and Nation far away of any political way of expressions. Brumley's political standpoint in quote is far away of Jesus way how to deal with "politics" and secular governments. Brumley using Political Colors in aspiration to talking bad about Russian Government, Russian Courts, secular Russian People. WHO gave Brumley right to speak about political aspects in one country? Why Brumley using Communism Ideology as HIS EXPLANATION why WTJWorg have PROBLEMS in this country? Why he was not braver and picturing situation with Nazi Germany period of suppressing JW. Hitler has done terrible things to many people.     
    Does Brumley consider USA and Western Democracies as Good political system? Because USA Courts not seized WTJWorg Real Estate.... yet.
    And what when they do that? Would GB proclaim: Armageddon comes and we have to go to Heaven?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Foreigner in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    ???  I don't know those men, but i know You.  hehehe
    Thanks for kind words, BUT what this have with "elders private thoughts on buying milk, going to pick up kid in school", or similar useless NOTES  inside/between other notes about Child molestation cases before Court or before WT elders?
    If your elders making such useless notes in investigation or judicial process inside congregation, that would be of no help or benefit for victims,  maybe only for accused one.
    When WT elders serves in parallel (illegal) juridical system inside One and Only Legal State Juridical System, that is the problem. It is not "problem" do i know more or less or nothing about US or EU laws.  
    WT top lawyers in Warwick should, must know that detail. Elders in WTinc. which is in fact Private Entrepreneurship-Enterprise in the name of God, should to learn how their working specter inside The Church is about spiritual and doctrinal issues of members. Things that are Covered by Secular laws (in this topic that is sex abuse inside WT or any other institution) should be given to Secular authority to handle. 
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    and Jehovah really does have a Congregational Arrangement, and Jehovah's Witnesses , globally, "ARE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN!" 
    Oh dear are you suffering from shell shock or something.
    If an Organisation needs to be run on lies and deceit by a group of 8 Americans (basically), then in my opinion it is not God's Organisation.  
    And if they need to replace the Anointed by using Elders who are not spirit anointed then how is that right ?
    And I will stick to my personal idea that, as the scriptures were written with the guidance of Holy Spirit, and as the Bible was 'put together' by means of Holy Spirit, then it can only be fully understood by God supplying His Holy spirit through Jesus Christ. So if the GB are not inspired of God's Holy spirit it gives very good reason that they cannot understand the scriptures and therefore get many things wrong. 
    JW's follow 8 men and it's writing department and it's legal department.
    The Elders serve as puppets to the GB and act as policemen to the congregation with the intention of making the JW Org look clean. Unfortunately the 'bowl' is only washed on the outside, so inside it's still filthy. 
    And this is your 'Only Game In town' ? 
    Then may God have mercy on the human race. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    Well it's been a year since the rumour first started, but the IICSA are very busy as you know :- 
    https://www.theweek.co.uk/92180/jehovah-s-witnesses-face-possible-child-sex-abuse-inquiry
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    No i am not that one who suggesting this. :)) WT publications openly using some Bible verses about that how JW member must listening Bible and God more than Secular Government. In other words, with life examples in publications, they (GB) supporting disobedience to Human Laws made by Secular Authority.  
    In next step of this doctrine is idea, how WTJWorg organization is only organization that is guided by God and how members have to listen GB aka FDS who are God's channel of communication, Represents, Mediators  between God (Jesus) and His servants aka JW members here on Earth.
    In next step, GB clearly say how they alone are only group who are appointed from God to run this Organization and make explanation about Bible and doctrines and instructions about that how worshiping in daily life should be look like.
    Who push whose and what Ideology on people? Systematically and Organizationally.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    the Watchtower hides things. When that is proven false 
    Has it been proven false ?   
    Then why did the GB / Legal dept refuse to hand over all of the twenty years worth of Child Abuse accusations in the USA ?
    They didn't say those documents didn't exist, they just refused to hand them over. 
    Now, whether they needed legally to hand those documents over or not, the point was proven that those documents existed. So that is hidden information. 
    And didn't the Charity commision find things out on their investigation hee in the UK ? And didn't the UK branch/ hq/ bethel try to stop the Charity Commision from doing it's investigation ? So wasn't the UK bethel/hq trying to hide things ? 
    And isn't the IICSA going to do an investigation into the UK branch of JW's ?  Why would they bother if they didn't think there were things being hidden ? 
    And in other countries groups such as Reclaimed Voices are pushing for more investigations.
    I think there is a lot more muck going to be dug out of the JW Org over this year. 
    Too bad that you cannot see that the GB are not the 'faithful and discreet slave' that they pretend to be. 
    They not only hide things from the public, they also hide things from the congregants. 
    11.35pm. Good night from the pleasant countryside of Devon England  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in JW Canada: Judge authorizes class action for Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims   
    Was that something about how Jesus gave life for sinners? And for His Friends too?
    GB friends are JW members? Are they? But they "sold" them to Russian Government, and now they have Legal Battles about multi millions worth Real Estate that was Confiscated.
    2 quotes from JWorg newsroom:
    1) Court to Hear Appeal Against Russian Government Seizure of Witnesses’ National Office
    2) Philip Brumley, General Counsel for Jehovah’s Witnesses, stated: “Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world are greatly disturbed by the harsh persecution of their fellow believers in Russia. Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime.
    In 1) we see how WTinc.  is so worried about Material Things, because they are Owners.
    In 2) we see nothing about JW Neutrality. Bro Brumley using POLITICAL ETIQUETTE when speaking about Legal Matters and JW members by - quote: Jehovah’s Witnesses are confronting the same type of repression today as they suffered under the Communist regime. How can be that one of top lawyer, in fact General Counsel for JW, who is elder, shepherd, believer, who supposed to be POLITICALLY NEUTRAL, using comparison of late political system with today political system. What COMMUNISM have with JW Church today? What Russia today have with JW Church? What USA have with JW Church? What every and any country with particular political ideology have with JW Church? 
    JW Church and followers considers themselves as Separate Organization and Nation far away of any political way of expressions. Brumley's political standpoint in quote is far away of Jesus way how to deal with "politics" and secular governments. Brumley using Political Colors in aspiration to talking bad about Russian Government, Russian Courts, secular Russian People. WHO gave Brumley right to speak about political aspects in one country? Why Brumley using Communism Ideology as HIS EXPLANATION why WTJWorg have PROBLEMS in this country? Why he was not braver and picturing situation with Nazi Germany period of suppressing JW. Hitler has done terrible things to many people.     
    Does Brumley consider USA and Western Democracies as Good political system? Because USA Courts not seized WTJWorg Real Estate.... yet.
    And what when they do that? Would GB proclaim: Armageddon comes and we have to go to Heaven?
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