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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in The Government Versus Jehovah's WItnesses   
    Perhaps the Russians are compiling a database of all the Jehovah's Witnesses internationally who wrote them 11 train boxcars LOADED with what is essentially firewood flakes ... and who got $56 MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH FROM THE BROTHERHOOD  to deliver all that mail from the Universal Postal Union as Terminal Duty of 70% of the face value of the postage affixed ....  to return all that free money.
    Ya think?
    They are probably still using all that paper in their stoves and furnaces for a second winter now, having been supplied by the Governing Body with abundant "fuel at the proper time".
    ... and that 56 Million Dollars would supply the Russkies with free Vodka for at least a decade.
    Now THAT'S being "spiritually prepared"!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to The Librarian in The Government Versus Jehovah's WItnesses   
    It is happening!!!
    We get reports from Russia, about the computerized file created by the Russian government with the addresses of all Jehovah's witnesses who wrote letters last year, supporting their brothers.
    According to Daniel's prophecies, Gog will seek a world attack by directing a group of loyal nations, the king of the north, against Jehovah's witnesses.
    Coincidence?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in In Defense of Shunning   
    Doctor said I have the dreaded "Forkinmouth Disease" ... being overweight is NOT MY FAULT !
    It's those nasty forks !
    ..... and, be it material food, or spiritual food .... you have to consider the credibility and reputation of the person providing it., if you are going to eat without examining it closely.
    I have absolute faith in a gallon of Butter Pecan Ice Cream.
    ...advice from Caleb, Sophia, and other Loony Tunes ... not so much.
    As Elmer Fudd used to say " .... be vewwy, vewwy careful ... hehehehehe."
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Jack Ryan in In Defense of Shunning   
    Says one of the assassins....
    Yeah... such a terrible thing.
    All those bloody wars caused by those atheists over the last few thousand years.... we have to avoid those.
    The religious zealots must have the answers
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in In Defense of Shunning   
    The best example History gives us (but this is not Final Solution of course//Endlösung der Judenfrage//) of how to make people behave in Discipline was visible (perfect tense) in people stoning for braking The Law, or killing in some other way. As some text say "If you can't  or don't want living by The Law ... then Die by The Law. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in In Defense of Shunning   
    If you are referring strictly to Bible-based discipline, the WT leaders still have no clue how to do so in love, since they are more concerned at protecting an image than the individual.    They fall far short of the examples we have in Jesus Christ.   Yet, how do you account for the thousands who have not sinned, that have been disfellowshipped? Who is it, that is expressing core moral values?  The individuals who leave knowing they can't tolerate another lie or submit to the rule of unrighteous men, or those who disfellowship them?  
    Core moral values should be dependent on Christ's teachings and practiced by the individual no matter what the "group" may decide.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in In Defense of Shunning   
    I anticipated your wish, even before you asked .... see red text, above.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in In Defense of Shunning   
    Could you please make your letters bigger so that they can be seen?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in In Defense of Shunning   
    As I have stated many times before ... the more words a person uses to put forth his viewpoint, the less probable it is that that viewpoint reflects reality where "the rubber meets the road".
    It all boils down to this ONE, singular issue:
    The way disfellowshipping is done today by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is for the singular purpose of consolidating political power in the hands of the Governing Body, through fear and terror ... by with premeditated cruelty disguised as a "loving provision", destroying WHOLE FAMILIES and EXTENDED FAMILIES .... for the sins of ONE person.
    A very rough analogy of cutting off a babies head, when it cries.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    ... no prophecy of Scripture, or parables or moral lessons comes from someone’s own interpretation.....
    I don't mind you asking me. But my understanding of this or that has a certain, temporary value only for me in fact. In this moment i do not see what importance, about this issue, my interpretation would bring to you S.M. You are Bible scholar of sort, and Jesus and his teachings leaves its influence on every person in a specific way, as well on You too. Let put this to/on Him (not to me) to make interpretation for your spiritual need. :))  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    JUST IN ... FROM THE TELEPATHIC NEWS NETWORK:
    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?
    Reasons vary by individual person, WTB&TS policy, and what particular holiday you are asking about
    A survey of approximately 6 million Jehovah's Witnesses said 58% do not celebrate  Halloween because they find it very, very irritating to have uninvited people knocking on their doors when they are trying to take a nap.
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    I am the door (the gate); if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    BUT THE GB DO NOT KEEP THE JW  ORG CLEAN. THEY ONLY PRETEND TO KEEP IT CLEAN. THAT IS PROVED BY THE REFUSAL TO HAND OVER THE DOCUMENTS CONCERNING THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CHILD ABUSE WITHIN THE ORG IN AMERICA ALONE. 
    It was also proved by the UK Bethel trying to fight the investigation into the child abuse here in the UK....
    And congregants are afraid of being disfellowshipped as they will lose what they think are friends, and lose contacts for business too.  
    Remember this Kid, leaving the JW Org, does not mean leaving God.  The GB and it's Org do not have the key to the gate that leads to serving God.
    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    No dear Billy, i am not twisting WT publications quotes. Under their influencing spirits, what ever source those spirits are, message in articles and public talks showed how looks the hierarchy in this structure we called Organization, Society, Congregation, Company, Corporation and other titles that are official and unofficial terminology in JW organization. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Deus magnus est in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    In one old manner of behavior (Job and God question answer, sort of "polemical" conversation) we can ask Almighty God also this;
    Dear God you have all Love, Wisdom and Power and you also teaching people to do good and to love other people. In fact your inspirational words are: "Therefore, whoever knows the right thing to do, yet fails to do it, is guilty of sin."
    I do not understand and i am very disappointed and confused, when looking at You and see your passive attitude toward all pain, injustice, suffering of every creature on Earth. Your servant James told something about it, but I do not get why he told something like this? You announced person as guilty of sin if not doing right thing if he knows. Even knowledge is enough to be guilty. But many times people have no power and wisdom and they can not do it. Maybe because of fear too. But You, as God, You are not as earthly man.....????? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Deus magnus est in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    Interesting and weird in same time. JW not celebrate "holidays", in fact all kind of holidays. JW have not any holidays, not participate in religious or worldly colored celebrations.  
     They "celebrate" only one thing. Death of Christ. How can people celebrate death? With One Hour (or less) of sitting and listening in KH.
    On other side this same God likes celebrating very much. He made a special instruction how to celebrate. WT publications explaining, for example, this: 
      The distinguishing mark of the Festival of Booths, the primary nature of it, was joyful thanksgiving. Jehovah’s desire was that his people should rejoice in him. “You must rejoice before Jehovah your God.”
    During this festival the number of sacrifices offered was greater than at any other festival of the year. The national sacrifice, starting with 13 bulls on the first day and diminishing one each day, totaled 70 bulls sacrificed, besides 119 lambs, rams, and goats, in addition to the grain and wine offerings. During the week, thousands of individual offerings would also be made by the attenders. (Nu 29:12-34, 39) On the eighth day, on which no laborious work could be done, a bull, a ram, and seven male lambs a year old were presented as a burnt offering, along with grain and drink offerings, as well as a goat as a sin offering.—Nu 29:35-38. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001505#h=6
    Past Holidays of "the only true religion" aka Old Israel Nation,  was including enormous amount of material things, slaughtering, blood, food to eat etc. And in all this things, every person "must rejoice" before God. I do not know how about you, but for me it will be very strange, uncomfortable to participate in all this commanded rejoicing, meat and maybe food overeating.
    Today, "the only true religion" aka WT-JW, going to another extreme. They rejecting ALL holidays as official religious standard. JW religion even consider how Sunday's ice-cream after KH gathering is unnecessary joy, the questionable celebration for JW children. Why? Perhaps because it is kind of selfishness? Body weakness? Worldly custom?
    Or, it is all about money!! If you spend your money for celebration in your home (or out side home) with your family and friends, then WT will receive less money, because you have spent your money on yourself not on them.  :))
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Deus magnus est in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    ????
    Please, where is boarder line when one thing stops and another coming?? Is such line existing or is that area including (not only black/white protocols, rules, paragraphs, list of blaspheme emotions, list of blaspheme thoughts, list of blaspheme words and list of blaspheme deeds) more than we think we know about it? 
    I think how our decision to not say a word about such crucial things in our life, about Us and Him and what we feel and think about some thing or about all things, that make us feel this way or another, is suppressing the core problem of/in our life, and about our relation to God and people too .   
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Deus magnus est in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    Your conclusion Billy is not correct :))
    14 GOVERNING BODY
    The Governing Body is the group of men with the heavenly hope who are used by God to direct the work of his people. In the first century, Jehovah used a governing body to guide the early Christian congregation in their worship and their preaching work. (Acts 15:2) Today, the group of brothers who serve as the Governing Body take the lead in directing, guiding, and protecting God’s people. When these brothers make decisions, they rely on guidance from God’s Word and his holy spirit. Jesus spoke of this group of anointed men as “the faithful and discreet slave.”—Matthew 24:45-47. - source https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102017578#h=74:0-76:25
     
    GOVERNING meaning - source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/governing
    -having the power to govern a country or an organization
    -having a controlling influence on something
    -the management or control of the activities of a particular country,region, or organization:
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Deus magnus est in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    No dear Billy, i am not twisting WT publications quotes. Under their influencing spirits, what ever source those spirits are, message in articles and public talks showed how looks the hierarchy in this structure we called Organization, Society, Congregation, Company, Corporation and other titles that are official and unofficial terminology in JW organization. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    Quote : " It appears by this statement that a corporation like “Walmart” runs the lives of its employees".   Yes Walmart does run the lives of it's employers whilst they are being paid to work at Walmart. That is quite obvious. It would be do the work or get out. And there would be rules as to manner of clothing, lunch breaks, smoke breaks, language used, and much more. 
    Quote : "It appears the United Kingdom runs every aspect of its citizens' personal life."  The government of the UK does run people's lives, via the local councils, the police force, the Laws passed in parliament,  etc... Once again that is obvious. They even have spy cameras everywhere. Speed cameras on every main road. They even know when a vehicle enters London if it should not be there.  They know what everyone is earning, they know how much pension everyone is getting that has retired. They have full rights, it seems, to come into your home and check on your computer, check your bank accounts,  check your Paypal account, etc ... And yes i do know as it's happened to me. They even go around, what we call, car boot sales, and check registration numbers, to see which people are making a living by selling things at car boot sales. Yep, the government have control and they let us know it..... 
    So it is with the Governing Body of JW Org. The GB make the rules. The GB rule over the congregants, via management, down to the policemen, oh sorry Elders. The Elders lord it over the congregations, because they know that the congregants, well most of them, are frightened of being disfellowshipped. The Elders do not show love to the congregation, they rule over them. 
    Quote : "That has “nothing” what’s so ever to do with what the sheep do in its personal life" . Now that is funny.  So why all the fuss about a man and a woman spending time together in a house ?  And then accusing them of fornication without any witnesses. 
    Why are congregants frightened to talk to ones that have left the Org ?  Fear of getting caught. 
    The elders seem to have spies out watching people. Unless you think the angels are reporting congregants to the Elders. 
    You, Kid, are in denial. Or you are blind. And there are none so blind as those that do not want to see.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    The 'Watchtower' is just a magazine. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is :-
    The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is a non-stock, not-for-profit organization[4] headquartered in Warwick, New York. It is the main legal entity used worldwide by Jehovah's Witnesses to direct, administer and disseminate doctrines for the group and is often referred to by members of the denomination simply as "the Society". It is the parent organization of a number of Watch Tower subsidiaries, including the Watchtower Society of New York and International Bible Students Association.[5][6] The number of voting shareholders of the corporation is limited to between 300 and 500 "mature, active and faithful" male Jehovah's Witnesses.[7] About 5800 Jehovah's Witnesses provide voluntary unpaid labour, as members of a religious order, in three large Watch Tower Society facilities in New York;[8] nearly 15,000 other members of the order work at the Watch Tower Society's other facilities worldwide.[8][9][10
    The Governing Body of the CCJW are the ones that GOVERN, GIVE ORDERS, MAKE RULES, CONTROL PEOPLE.  
    I suppose that is why you always use the 'Watchtower' not the GB or JW Organisation. Using the word 'Watchtower' is a cop out, as the Watchtower is just a magazine, not a human. 
    And your point about my local government has no meaning, because my local government will not 'disfellowship me' nor will it stop hundreds, well thousands, of people talking to me. 
    You know why i left, it was because of the large amount of CHILD ABUSE Earthwide within the JW organisation, caused by the GB and Elders in the JW Org. No confusion there. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    Your conclusion Billy is not correct :))
    14 GOVERNING BODY
    The Governing Body is the group of men with the heavenly hope who are used by God to direct the work of his people. In the first century, Jehovah used a governing body to guide the early Christian congregation in their worship and their preaching work. (Acts 15:2) Today, the group of brothers who serve as the Governing Body take the lead in directing, guiding, and protecting God’s people. When these brothers make decisions, they rely on guidance from God’s Word and his holy spirit. Jesus spoke of this group of anointed men as “the faithful and discreet slave.”—Matthew 24:45-47. - source https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102017578#h=74:0-76:25
     
    GOVERNING meaning - source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/governing
    -having the power to govern a country or an organization
    -having a controlling influence on something
    -the management or control of the activities of a particular country,region, or organization:
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    @Srecko Sostar   Srecko, your words are true. Of course we can express our feelings in words and it is not blasphemy. 
    And in my opinion the scriptures were written for the Anointed, we are just the other sheep, not of that fold.  So again in my opinion only the Anointed can blaspheme against the Holy Spirit as they have a special relationship with God. 
    Much more is therefore expected of the Anointed.  Matthew 5 v 45 
    " so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, .... "
    The sons are the ones with that special inheritance, the Anointed 
    Matthew 5 v 48  You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
    As for me I an neither anointed or perfect, so I'm sure God understands my shortcomings. Is this the same with you ? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    ????
    Please, where is boarder line when one thing stops and another coming?? Is such line existing or is that area including (not only black/white protocols, rules, paragraphs, list of blaspheme emotions, list of blaspheme thoughts, list of blaspheme words and list of blaspheme deeds) more than we think we know about it? 
    I think how our decision to not say a word about such crucial things in our life, about Us and Him and what we feel and think about some thing or about all things, that make us feel this way or another, is suppressing the core problem of/in our life, and about our relation to God and people too .   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JOHN BUTLER in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Certain Holidays?   
    I see no blasphemy, only disappointment and confusion. You are the second one using this idea of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. 
    Trying to frighten people is not God's way of doing things. Showing love and compassion is God's way.  Of course JW's would not know, they only know strict rules from the GB and the fear of being disfellowshipped. 
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