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I must admit I found that paragraph strange. I raised the issue at the table (we had hospitality for our friend who gave the talk, his wife and in laws were also with us, the other in law being an elder too) and everyone didn't get why this particular song was included either. I mean what about the song "listen obey and be blessed"? And other songs which also tell people what to do. It was just very odd, and I wondered why this issue was even raised. (some of your ideas may be valid, but why make a point of it this way in the paragraph, it almost makes me want to write to Bethel and ask for the "real" reason behind it. But it's not important) My husband had a good point as well. He said he's never known in his life any sister to be bothered about telling people what to do. Everyone cracked up and agreed.

Back in the day... I used to be a ‘letter of the law’ kinda gal.  One day, someone had problems with my braids.  They spoke to my ‘head’ at the time and I took the braids out on my way home from the meeting.  I looked at the scripture referenced- 1Pet. 3:3.  I decided I’d go to the next meeting naked.   Well, almost. I’d be wearing shoes.  I started heading to the door and my husband looked at me like I was crazy.  Before he parted his lips, I said, ‘I’m following the scriptures.  That’s what you wanted right? Do not let the your adornment be... the wearing of... outer garments.’  I’m safe now since the new translation says, ‘...fine clothing’. But  I do alright if you ask me. My second hand clothing is mighty fine.  Mighty fine! 
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Sometimes things are so insane that you think someone is repeating a Parody off of "The Onion" .... but then you realize .... these folks are dead serious.

WT P.17 SIMPLIFIED
Why? Because before, when a person sang the words of this song, he was telling others what to do. This could be awkward for new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who are at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions. So the title and the lyrics were changed.
WT P.17 STANDARD
Why? In the audience at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions are many new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who by singing the words would be put in the awkward position of telling others what to do. So the title and the lyrics were modified.

Regarding a change to a song title, the study article on page 7 paragraph 17 of November 2017 Watchtower explained, “The change of the title “Guard Your Heart” to “We Guard Our Hearts” was most considerate. Why? In the audience at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions are many new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who by singing the words would be put in the awkward position of telling others what to do. So the title and the lyrics were modified.”

Thats a beautiful picture,  but similar our Astrology  
PS. Our dog  'Bora', a German shepherd, died with 14 yrs. - She protected me, when I was a Baby  

In those times cell phones not existed and regular home telephone was very rare, too.  He can not made a call, or forget to do that ... 2-3 times :)))))) 

The flaps are on the plane (on wings), so that their pilot or pilots can lift  or put down the flaps. The engine power of the aircraft and the position of the flaps must be aligned so that the aircraft could to get up or down. My amateur knowledge. :))))) Engines of plane in this case producing "wind"and moves whole "organization" of plane stuff and passengers. Where they are going/flying now?
Wind in some bible terminology representing spirit. Spirit of person. God, devil, people. All of them producing some "winds" to blow. All of them have impact, influence, control on moving of our, their  "boat" or "plane" :)))  

tack
tacking
zigzag
Nautical:  
the heading of a sailing vessel, when sailing close-hauled, with reference to the wind direction.
a course run obliquely against the wind.
one of the series of straight runs that make up the zigzag course of a ship proceeding to windward.
 
WHAT IS, WHO IS, WHAT KIND OF   w i n d   FORCING   WT company to change courses??
 
 

Nero (he) passed away in 2013 at age of 15
 

Dogs in our household live a very long time .... My dog Tony was 14 when he died, and Ivory was 18 ... we have one with diabetes that is 16, etc.  Watching them enjoy their lives is and has been a great joy.
I often think that is why Jehovah puts up with humans.

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Good point!

yeah, perhaps you are absolutely right. WT are very openly said to their members - do not look for higher education. Do not be "academic" in this way or another. Stick with what we have authorized and you will be safe. Well, what  is for Am Haarets left to do but to downsize their standards from middle level to level of "criticized", not only those who are "academic" but their own religious leaders who are "blind leaders of blind". Not my words, It is written in a one very known Academic book aka Bible. :))

I agree   .  he got permission ... but he did not have to.
My theory is it is easier to ask forgiveness ... than to ask permission.
.... and when the sue me ... they get a well-worn 2003 Hyundai Sonata with a worn off steering wheel cover.
"Don''t do the crime ...if you can't do the time"  only applies to the timid, and the impatient.
Contemporary Justice, depends on the mood  and sense of humor (or lack thereof) of the ones doing the judging.

I do not see any reason why sister can not be in role or MS or elders, if she like/want that? NOT only in situation when there is no BAPTIZED male/brother/men. :))))
Are not "appointed"/for example/ sister enough qualified? She will be Priest and King/Queen in Heaven??? The same is with "appointed" brother. He will be.... something, too., in Heaven. Or, He will be something better than She???!!! 
Appointed or Regular all are equal !!!
Who was Deborah? First of all, SHE was Woman. But for all Sons of Israel SHE was Judge and Prophet. And all must obeyed HER Decisions. This example is for those who believe in Bible reports and in God who not loves males more than females. 
I do not see how these modest and humble characters of sisters can be so satisfied with "new duties", and can not see that/how macho/ patriarhal males inside JWorg only filling "holes" because that suits them in this particular moment. After when this need will no more be unnecessary, Corporation will put you where you "belong".... to clean toilets. :(((((  
Very sad. People should doing things in what they are good and have talents and wishes, calls if you want. And not because their gender determinate what he/she are expected, "predestined" by society  or ordered to do.
 
 
 

It was the Brotherhood James was addressing in his letter.
Porn is porn ... and propaganda is propaganda.
Some weird people consider this porn ... ******

The issue is regarding masturbation and what such a habit leads to. And yes, "it is" a growing problem, especially among younger people and young adults. Some people choose to educate and even make rules regarding masturbation because they want to better protect people from it, and those who are educated are less likely to succumb to such an addiction. Should one be affected by masturbation and pornography, there are those who are well equipped to handle with those in suffering.
Just because you have a process in your body, doesn't mean you should be okay with such acts, this has been said before by the community who fight against masturbation and pornography 24/7, by those who share stories and testimonies of how troubling such an addiction is. I already have some experiences with some, as I already stated before, even losing a friend to the addiction, which led her to pornography, to depression and eventually, when she took her own life and the troubles my brother faced.
There is no "why" in the age, it is pretty evident, there are urges that the flesh cannot control, and eventually, the individual will give in. There are many examples, some a bit explicit than others on how an addiction worsens over time to those who succumb to it and does not do anything about it. It may seem okay to one person, but to another it is seen as something vile and something very shameful, especially if the person who sees it as such is the one with the problem.
Never mentioned pedophilia or one becoming as such due to masturbation and porn, however, pornography encourages and caters to them, giving them the tools and the how to for child grooming and or the creation of whatever vile practices they. For Pedophilia is classified as a psychological disorder ( DSM 5). It is a very difficult psychological disorder to treat, for there are programs, therapies, counseling, etc that can prove somewhat useful. Pedophilia root of originate is not yet known, some just consider the addiction was with the person from the time they were born and the disorder itself begins to flourish as they grow or over time they developed an interest in children or those younger than them, regardless of the sex of the targeted individual. but they tend to look into various types of things that gives them sexual gratification, to distribute, to share, to receive, etc. At times they tend to enact such actions on targets of their choosing. The Adult Industry does not get a lot of flack, especially for some of their viewed content consist women portraying the roles of teenage girls or cartography themselves as children in the presence of a grown man, the same thing happens when the roles are in reverse. That being said, feeding the addiction worsens it.
It amazes me how majority in America does not know how masturbation and watching porn causes some form of depression and low self-esteem, lack of confidence in oneself, and a few times, it also causes one to go on a suicidal path because they feel that their is no hope for them, somehow they were exposed/mocked for their habits and the like.
Luckily, as I said before, there are a couple of large communities, that work as one, to help such people, give advise, share their stories, and encourage anyone, for should you relapse into porn and masturbation, you can get back up and continue to fight it until you are free from it. They help anyone, regardless of one's background, religion, race, etc. At times, they had one time helped someone who thinks he is under the impression that he may be a pedophile.
Masturbation and porn to the majority is seen as normal, disregarding the effects it can cause in some individuals, among the people there are those who see masturbation and porn as a problem, a growing one due to some statistics in the past couple of years. There will always be people to instruct, there will always be those who will educate, and help out should any man, woman or child succumbs to the addiction of masturbation and pornography.
It may be a laughing matter to some here, but for me, it is a serious issue, and I have witnessed some things firsthand and talked with people, just like the communities who speak of this addiction, they too consider it a growing problem, and have the real world experience to share with others in order to help combat the addiction.

Space Merchant:
I would suppose that every thing you said is true .. it certainly sounds reasonable, and is certainly well considered ... but the question is NOT whether anything is good for you, bad for you, or completely neutral .... the question is the propriety of those that are representing, or say they are representing Jehovah God as his spokespersons on Earth .... and Geoffrey Jackson of the Governing Body stated that the Governing Body ACTUALLY WERE .... in his testimony before the Australian Royal Commission .... the REAL ISSUE is whether or not those people CLAIMING to be (and possible actually are) God's spokespersons on Earth ... are entitled to speak for God ....
 
..... words that he himself NEVER SPOKE.
 
That is the ONLY issue  that really matters,  do we have a RIGHT to represent this, or ANY issue about which God has expressed NO OPINION .... as the "Will of God"?
For those in Rio Linda ... THE ANSWER IS A RESOUNDING NO !
Otherwise ... Jehovah's Witnesses become a collection of cultish cultural tyrants ... and PRETENDERS to speak for God, to further the leadership's own culturally induced Victorian proclivities ... subjecting the Brotherhood to public ridicule and embarrassment ... and slandering God himself.
The REAL ISSUE is whether or not those people CLAIMING to be (and possible actually are) God's spokespersons on Earth ... are ENTITLED to speak for God words that he himself NEVER SPOKE.
That is the ONLY issue  that really matters ... for those claiming to "speak for God".
The rest is arrogance, presumptuousness, just plain stupid, and an embarrassment to have to watch.
It slanders God, and makes the Brotherhood a subject of ridicule.
Next ... we will be prohibiting the eating of Meat on Friday., or making "type-antitype" profundities that are absurd, or making end time prophesy that NEVER come true.
Oh wait .... been there... done that.
The GB ruined tens of thousands of marriages in the 1970's, and destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives, and chased millions of people away from the Truth  by such arrogance in ignorantly speaking on such matters in the name of God ... and have been trying to "walk it back" for at least ten years now, without admitting to ANYTHING.
 Completely disregarding for the moment the immense slander to God for representing and making English Victorian culture God's, and the damage to people's lives ..... It is not Satan that will destroy the WTB&TS ...
It will be the Lawyers.

In reality that probably is true, but in the case of the Watchtower and its “sailors”, I tend to disagree. 
“Brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers. You know that we who teach will be judged more severely.
“ All of us make a lot of mistakes. If someone doesn’t make any mistakes when he speaks, he would be perfect. He would be able to control everything he does.  We put bits in the mouths of horses to make them obey us, and we have control over everything they do.  The same thing is true for ships. They are very big and are driven by strong winds. Yet, by using small rudders, pilots steer ships WHEREVER THEY WANT THEM TO GO.  In the same way the tongue is a small part of the body, but it can brag about doing important things.”
1972 "Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?" (Watchtower April 1, 1972, p. 197)
“A large forest can be set on fire by a little flame.  The tongue is that kind of flame. It is a world of evil among the parts of our bodies, and it completely contaminates our bodies. The tongue sets our lives on fire, and is itself set on fire from hell.  People have tamed all kinds of animals, birds, reptiles, and sea creatures.  Yet, no one can tame the tongue. It is an uncontrollable evil filled with deadly poison.”
“ With our tongues we praise our Lord and Father. Yet, with the same tongues we curse people, who were created in God’s likeness. “ Praise and curses come from the same mouth. My brothers and sisters, this should not happen!”
1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end" to the world, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that He was using and guiding them.'' (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968)
“ Do clean and polluted water flow out of the same spring?  My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree produce olives? Can a grapevine produce figs? In the same way, a pool of salt water can’t produce fresh water.”  James 3:1-12
 
 
 
 
 

:)))))))))))) oh man. "Growing problem".... in this 21 century or in all centuries from day 1?? hahah
Do you know what is real growing problem? Lies, deceiving, manipulation, terror, forcing people to do something,  violence of all kinds....
Human sexuality involves all inside (and outside us). This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors. Does human explore own (or partner body) with touching, looking ... or with tabu - not touch, not smell, not taste, not look ...
Who was put all process in body? Erection too? What are you doing when you hungry or thirsty? Or must go to toilet? Law of instincts was made by Higher Power. Social laws regulate some behaviours inside family, tribe, people, nation.... What is primar, first came in existence? Body law and inside feeling for good and bad (conscience)?? Or Human laws (religious, political, national...)?
Why. Understand why we do this or that, is more important  than making rule and tabu on masturbation. When we get closer to answer why 10 year old masturbate or why 18 year or 45 or 65 doing this, then we will see better, more. 
Why one became paedophile? Because he masturbate too much? Or looked porno movies? Or ...? 
Masturbating person became depressed and suicidal? Because he masturbate or because he doesn't know how, can not realised himself in specific needs he have, he can not, or do not know how to fulfill and find emotional  needs, states .... inside his social group?
Issue is big and complex and complicated. :)))

In those times cell phones not existed and regular home telephone was very rare, too.  He can not made a call, or forget to do that ... 2-3 times :)))))) 

In those times cell phones not existed and regular home telephone was very rare, too.  He can not made a call, or forget to do that ... 2-3 times :)))))) 

Some people have the same problems with eating, drinking alcohol, and (insert list here).
The Bible says MUCH about stealing, honesty, justice, mercy, lying, and hundreds of other things. 
But guess what is NOT mentioned?
The Apostle James admonishes the brothers NOT TO MURDER EACH OTHER  (James 5:6).  How often have you seen THIS.  Probably never.
If Jehovah God  cared about such things ....... CONSIDERING it is an almost universal practice, and always has been, AMONG 95% OF ALL MEN, AND ABOUT 80% OF ALL WOMEN ON THE PLANET EARTH .... you might think he would have at least MENTIONED IT AT LEAST ONCE?
Actually, I believe it was "kinda sorta" mentioned ONCE, in the Old Testament., depending on your perception ....
CHRISTENDOM is where we get the idea that it is shameful, it is THEY who believed it DESTROYED THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO DID IT, as back then (and this is true...) the common perception was that little tiny men and women were in the semen ( no kiddddiding...)
Christendom's clergy has a vested interest in making people guilty over things God has NOT expressed any opinion on ... and these things go all the way back to the Jewish times before Christ.  It is easier to extort money from people who are "guilty", or make them slaves.
It's called "paying the preacher".
Onan was chastised by Jehovah for NOT IMPREGNATING HIS BROTHER'S WIDOW! not "Onanism" as defined by Christendumb ... which actually makes the Bible's interest in this practice exactly ZERO.
Men Ejaculate ... women menstruate ... and we all swallow boogers when we have sinus drainage, and occasionally leak .... which is why we wear underwear.
GET USED TO IT !
Even the hot water heater in your home has a pressure release valve.
If I am wrong... please correct me with a CLEAR AND COMPLETELY UNAMBIGUOUS Scripture.
Playing with words does not count, any more than playing those words, playing with your dandruff, playing with with your food, or ... uh ... well ... you know .....
If we REALLY ARE going to model our lives on the word of Jehovah ... let's NOT MAKE STUFF UP ...  like Christendumb did for our personal guilt trips.
If you want to know what the Apostle James said .... start with James 1:27.
 "The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world."
Life gets simpler when you stop making stuff up.
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Bible have much  more verses :)))