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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    I have always had a gut feeling that a ratio something like this was correct, so disregarding the personal tragedies institutionally ...  as flawed humans we are by comparison doing extremely well.   Certainly Jehovah's spirit has a LOT to do with that.
    What frosts my ice tray is the global cover-up and denial, and officially declaring what is proven to be absolutely true as "APOSTATE LIES" .
    ... AND PAYING TEAMS OF LAYERS TO PERVERT JUSTICE WITH THE BROTHERHOOD'S MONEY (JEHOVAH'S MONEY) BEING USED TO COVER-UP, OBFUSCATE, AND LIE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
    I try to be a loyal Theocratic man ... but I make a CRAPPY  Corporation shill.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    I agree with MOST of what you said .... but you "got me" at the last line.
    Bravo!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Shiwiii in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    The ridiculousness of attaching political people into the question is where you have gone astray. That is the side portion of your question which becomes your gig, your laugh. You see if you were actually serious none of that would have found its way into your agenda. 
    Now to answer you seriously:
    What are the benefits of Coming to Jesus?
    Your sins are forgiven, the moment you accept Jesus into your heart and ask Him to forgive you. Done deal. Matt. 9:2 is a great example. By the man's faith, Jesus forgave him. 
    His burden is light, why? Because He takes that pressure away from you. He give your rest (Matt 11:25-30) There is no fear of losing anything, privileges, friends, family, you don't lose but rather gain. You gain the peace and joy of being a child of God (Romans 8:15-17, 1 John 5:1). There is no obligation  to do anything, except the works of God. What are those works? John 6:29 "... believe in the one who He sent" (Jesus). 
    You will be led by the Holy Spirit. (Luke 12:12) This is much like having a friend guide you through life and warning you about the dangers of your decisions. The Spirit of God dwells within you to direct you. (Romans 8:11)
    Jesus does not try and trap you or trick you, it is a freedom to follow Him. It is also very easy to leave Him if you'd like. He does not threaten you to keep you under submission, He does not announce to others that you have left. He simply continues and He knows who will and who won't follow Him, so there is no surprise. He knows and Romans 8:28 tells us what the plan for those who do is, all things will work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose. 
    We are given eternal life. When is this given? Now. John 6:40. We have the knowledge and comfort in knowing that right now we can know for certain that we have eternal life with Jesus. This is not a maybe "if you do enough" or "if you're nice enough" it is a given. 1 John 5:11&12. 
    Jesus is the mediator between the Father and humans. Jesus came in human form so that we can relate to Him and He can be our mediator. He is our spokesperson when we fail (1 John 2:1&2). The Bible tells us that there is NO other mediator, not a group of men, not a religion, not the Pope nor the octo-popes.  Jesus is our personal mediator. 
    He tells us that He is the only way. (John 14:6, Hebrews 7:25) There is no other way to God, but through Jesus, so one MUST come to Jesus in order to be right with God. He must become the narrow gate in which we must pass (Matt 7:13). 
    I think this is enough to answer your question. While there is much more, I really don't think you are interested in the answer, just a sort of game to see if I would jump through your hoops. Well I did, but it wasn't for just you. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Shiwiii in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    And this was your actual question! Was it not? You asked what does one benefit from coming to Jesus, and NOW you want to complain about the answer being about what does one gain? Do you even realize what you write sometimes? Have you been checked for multiple personalities? 
     
    ignorant claims as you do not know my "brand"
     
    exactly, but try telling that the the thousands who were molested by members of your "brand" only to have their abusers covered up and protected. That doesn't exactly spell learning to be nice now does it? 
    What does tight pants have to do with Bible principals? Tony Morris seems to think it is of importance and biblical
    Where in the Bible does blood fractions come into play? 
    Where in the Bible does immunizations get banned and then allowed? 
    Why can't people make their minds up on if a birthday is ok or not? Why does it have to be a threat to banish a person if they participate in Christmas? 
    Why is there so much controlling going on in your "brand" ?  Was Jesus that controlling? I think not  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Cos in JW's mistaken claim...   
    If Newton were Unitarian so what? Even some of the brightest minds get things wrong! <><
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Shiwiii in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    for that then I apologize. It IS wt speak though and you have to admit that. 
     
    How can this be demonstrated beyond "I just know"?  And please read my answer to Tom as it applies here too.
     
    Is He blessing by means of exposure to the practices and cover ups of the abuse rampant throughout the org? It certainly appears that way in these last 4 years. 
     
    what are these outside forces? news media and governments holding the flashlight on them to force the changes that should have happened long ago? 
     
    point being is why should such an article (magazine) be the focus instead of the Bible itself and the practices written within it?  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Shiwiii in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Why be so quick to align with a group? Is it that group mentality that makes it impossible for many to just simply come to Jesus? 
    Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. The org is not the "truth" nor the way and they claim life exclusively to whom they deem worthy, placing themselves in the seat of Jesus. Why is there a need for wt mags and awake mags when the Bible is sufficient? It has been for centuries, until a group decided it wasn't enough and put people in boxes and made hoops for them to jump through. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    I still have a copy of "Defending" ... which guided me when I was faced with prison for refusing military service during the Vietnam War, when I was 18 years old.  I have no objection to any principles outlined in it ... at all.
    Unfortunately, the "Truth" during the 60's was defined by principle, and refined by the fire of circumstance ... and the "Truth" we have today is defined by the Society's Lawyers, and Accountants .... even the "Blood" Issue ... crystal clear and unambiguous ... has been perverted by the accountants and lawyers so the SOCIETY WILL NOT BE SUED INTO OBLIVION.
    As Dorothy said to her dog in the "Wizard of Oz" .... "we're not in Kansas, anymore, Toto".
    I do not mind at all following Jehovah's Chariot ... but I do check the route and weather before following the Circus Clown Car.
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    I just found this interesting comment on YT
    Regarding the court fines: I just read something interesting today from the book "Defending and Legally Establishing the Good News" (WTBTS 1950). It says on page 81, last paragraph under "FINES": If, after appealing a criminal court fine related to your JW membership or JW's doctrine, "then instead of paying the fine, discharge it by going to jail, if allowed to do so by law". "If it is his (Jehovah's) will that you go to prison and there give further testimony after failing on appeal, that should be done joyfully. Trust in Jehovah for protection". So which JW will be going to prison over the $4000 daily fine from the court? I think these fines are against the WTBTS, not the elders or congregation. In Los Angeles County, jail time is typically used to pay off court fines at the rate of $38 per day. (each day of $4000 fine would equal 105 days in jail) Maybe they can send the entire Governing Body to prison? Wouldn't that be fun to see. I'm sure they can delay the fines for a few more years, but eventually they will have to pay. If WT pays this fine instead of choosing jail, they would be in violation of their own command.?
    source; 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Shiwiii in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    I just found this interesting comment on YT
    Regarding the court fines: I just read something interesting today from the book "Defending and Legally Establishing the Good News" (WTBTS 1950). It says on page 81, last paragraph under "FINES": If, after appealing a criminal court fine related to your JW membership or JW's doctrine, "then instead of paying the fine, discharge it by going to jail, if allowed to do so by law". "If it is his (Jehovah's) will that you go to prison and there give further testimony after failing on appeal, that should be done joyfully. Trust in Jehovah for protection". So which JW will be going to prison over the $4000 daily fine from the court? I think these fines are against the WTBTS, not the elders or congregation. In Los Angeles County, jail time is typically used to pay off court fines at the rate of $38 per day. (each day of $4000 fine would equal 105 days in jail) Maybe they can send the entire Governing Body to prison? Wouldn't that be fun to see. I'm sure they can delay the fines for a few more years, but eventually they will have to pay. If WT pays this fine instead of choosing jail, they would be in violation of their own command.?
    source; 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Which Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?   
    Without getting into the logic and reasoning behind your detailed  explanation of "Which Came first, the Chicken or the Egg?', I would like to state as a side thought that the Chicken came first.
    Chickens actually ... as it takes two to make a viable egg.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Which Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?   
    This age-old question has been the subject of children, science and everyone in between since its written origin in ancient Greek history. Depending on what source you read today, they think they’ve nailed down the answer; and it appears to go either way.
    Here is an easier question:
    What comes first, birth or birth pains? We know this answer, but when it comes to the arrival of God’s Kingdom, the Watchtower does not.
    From the NWT: In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a BEGINNING OF PANGS OF DISTRESS. “ Matt 24: 4-8
    The Watchtower teaches that God’s Kingdom arrived in 1914 in the heavens. This event is to be interpreted as the beginning of the signs of “pangs of distress”, their choice of translation. Certainly, the world clearly shows distress evident in the wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes.
    The Greek word for Wt.’s use of “pangs of distress” (ōdin) literally means pains related to child birth – labor pains.
    This truth is found in Watchtower’s Greek Interlinear, reading word for word:
    “All but these (things) beginning of pangs of birth”.
    Why isn’t it read this way when translating the scripture on the same page? The Watchtower would be held responsible for explaining how the birth of God’s Kingdom supposedly arrives before birth pains. “The Kingdom is Born in heaven”, according to the “kr”, chapter 2; yet ironically, it appears to be followed by birth pains.
    From “What Does the Bible Teach?” - “Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the BIRTH of God’s Heavenly Kingdom and the BEGINNING of “the last days” (LABOR PAINS!) of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
    How clever of them to change the “beginning of birth pains” (“pains of distress”) to “the beginning of the last days”!
    Concerning the focusing of our eyes on Satan’s world for signs of the coming Kingdom, it is not Satan’s corrupt world that is in labor, it is the promised New Covenant that gives “birth” to God’s Kingdom. This ‘birthing’ is not complete until the full number of Kingdom heirs are sealed in the heavens; but not before they individually experience spiritual “labor/birth pains”, resulting from Satan’s demand to test each one. John 18:36; 17:16; Rev 12:1-6; Luke 22:31; Mark 13:13; John16: 2; Rev 2:9,10,13,17,7,24,26,28; 6:9,11; 3:5,9,12,21,22 
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…
    Watchtower 14/1/15 - “Let your Kingdom come”: God’s Kingdom came in 1914 when Jesus was made King in heaven. God’s Kingdom will also come in the future when Jesus destroys the wicked."
    Here is where they have derived their thought:
    “Therefore, you should pray like this:
    Our Father in heaven,
    Your name be honored as holy.
    Your kingdom come.
    Your will be done
    on earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us today our daily bread.
    And forgive us our debts,
    as we also have forgiven our debtors.
    And do not bring us into temptation,
    but deliver us from the evil one.
    For Yours is the kingdom and the power
    and the glory forever. Amen." Matt 6:9-13
    Their comment has taken scripture out of context. Can the Kingdom of God arrive via two births at two different times? Obviously, God’s Kingdom has NOT come IN ANY FORM, as Satan is still here.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Proverbs 4:18 - ‘Light Getting Brighter’   
    This is one of many verses the watchtower takes liberty in changing it's context. They use it to change doctrine, but this verse is not about changing doctrine. It's about righteous people will walk in the light, wicked people will walk in utter darkness. 
    So they replace the words 'light getting brighter' to 'new light'. But that doesn't work either because in the bible the only one bringing new light is satan transforming himself into light.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Netherlands - JW and paedophilia problem   
    Rut-roh..Jehovah's witnesses have the upmost hatred for the catholic church and catholics.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Proverbs 4:18 - ‘Light Getting Brighter’   
    It works the exact same way with physics and chemistry .... and astronomy.
    At one time we thought an atom was indivisible ... hence the name ... but now we know even its parts have parts have parts.
    at one time we thought there were canals on the planet Mars, and deep jungles on Venus.
    ... before that, the Earth was flat, and the center of the Universe.
    At one time the rudimentary "Periodic Table of the Elements" only had  earth, water, air, and fire.
    ... and yes, people that did not believe these things were shunned, banished, and burned at the stake.
    We learn from our mistakes .... sometimes.
    The relentless search for the TRUTH always comes with mountains of innocent bodies as collateral damage.
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Proverbs 4:18 - ‘Light Getting Brighter’   
    ... and just like the Sun ... the light DOES NOT grow brighter.  
    Our Sun is a variable star, yes, but over a very long period of time ... but every morning it gets brighter BECAUSE obstructions are rotated out of the way.
    ... same with Theology.
    The light was ALWAYS THERE!
    It was HUMANS obscuring it.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Proverbs 4:18 - ‘Light Getting Brighter’   
    Actually ... it's not the Sun coming up ... but the horizon going down..
    Think about it !
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to DeeDee in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Jesus is not yet a "Husband"...
    His wedding is in the future.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to DeeDee in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Jesus answered the apostles at Matthew 6:9-13 (see below).
    The prayer at John chapter 17 is his personal prayer to his Father in heaven (see below).
    Matthew 6:9-13
     “You [his apostles] must pray, then, this way:
    “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’
     
    John 17:1-26
    Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, 2 just as you have given him authority over all flesh, so that he may give everlasting life to all those whom you have given to him. 3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was. 6 “I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. 7 Now they have come to know that all the things you gave me are from you; 8 because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours; 10 and all my things are yours and yours are mine, and I have been glorified among them. 11 “I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one. 12 When I was with them, I used to watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me; and I have protected them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, so that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I am coming to you, and I am saying these things in the world, so that they may have my joy made complete in themselves. 14 I have given your word to them, but the world has hated them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. 15 “I do not request that you take them out of the world, but that you watch over them because of the wicked one. 16 They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world. 17 Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. 18 Just as you sent me into the world, I also sent them into the world. 19 And I am sanctifying myself in their behalf, so that they also may be sanctified by means of truth. 20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. 23 I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. 24 Father, I want those whom you have given me to be with me where I am, in order that they may look upon my glory that you have given me, because you loved me before the founding of the world. 25 Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. 26 I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Shiwiii in Proverbs 4:18 - ‘Light Getting Brighter’   
    :)) I apologize, but wish to react on this "fraze", on this "fama" from WT Company. 
    In Prov 4:18 we read this; "The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day."
    First of all the main point here is THE PATH and not the light! Path of some person (righteous one) can go in good direction only with help from higher Source (the light aka God and this LIGHT is NOT CHANGEABLE  as it is JW light of/on interpretations.
    Light from god is the same in all stages of the day - no shadows.
    In literal meaning of Proverbs, daylight gets brighter because of sun. But this light changes his intensity in the same day. Until evening you are in the dark again.
    In parable (with modern fulfilment on WTBTS inc.) or allegorical meaning picture looks something like this short description ; :)))
    WT JWorg is the sun (despite the fact that JW members firmly believe how their and WT source of "light" is JHVH ), because WT doctrinal explanation are making full day circle - morning, noon, evening, night. And just as the daylight have all this phases, the same "destiny" WT interpretations have too. In the "morning" some of WT teachings looks like it shows something what promise big hope. In the "noon time" this teaching firmly stand as "the truth based on bible evidence". As daylight lose his power "evening" bring disappointment to JW people (and GB bible scholars too) and  through the dark period of night some sleepless people (bible scholars) try hard to see where they made mistake. And after working in the night (without the proper light) they are ready to bring "new light idea" in the "morning" of a new day.        :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Women Being Used To Do Roving Microphones ?   
    I do not see any reason why sister can not be in role or MS or elders, if she like/want that? NOT only in situation when there is no BAPTIZED male/brother/men. :))))
    Are not "appointed"/for example/ sister enough qualified? She will be Priest and King/Queen in Heaven??? The same is with "appointed" brother. He will be.... something, too., in Heaven. Or, He will be something better than She???!!! 
    Appointed or Regular all are equal !!!
    Who was Deborah? First of all, SHE was Woman. But for all Sons of Israel SHE was Judge and Prophet. And all must obeyed HER Decisions. This example is for those who believe in Bible reports and in God who not loves males more than females. 
    I do not see how these modest and humble characters of sisters can be so satisfied with "new duties", and can not see that/how macho/ patriarhal males inside JWorg only filling "holes" because that suits them in this particular moment. After when this need will no more be unnecessary, Corporation will put you where you "belong".... to clean toilets. :(((((  
    Very sad. People should doing things in what they are good and have talents and wishes, calls if you want. And not because their gender determinate what he/she are expected, "predestined" by society  or ordered to do.
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Give to Cesar what is Cesar's, anyone care to discuss?   
    I am learning the depth of these words, Srecko;
    “Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice!  Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near.  Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
     Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.  Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.”  Phil 4:4-9
    It is how one reaches purity of conscience. 
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Give to Cesar what is Cesar's, anyone care to discuss?   
    "resists"
    Among Strong’s definition of uses for “Satan” are included,
    adversary (one who opposes another in purpose or act)
    he incites apostasy from God and to sin
    circumventing men by his wiles
    a Satan-like man
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Cos in JW's mistaken claim...   
    Arians/Unitarians such as JWs claim that Jesus is the first (in chronological sequence) to be born? And they site for support Colossians 1:15, claiming that the Son is a member of creation. The Watchtower also add the word “other” to the passage in their bible version to give that impression.
     
    Guys, if the reference to "firstborn" in Scripture primarily means being the first to have been given life, then that title could never be lost because it would refer to a factual event, the first birth.
     
    Further, the title could never be applied to someone that was not truly the first in sequence.
     
    But the Bible shows that the title of "firstborn" can be removed or gained independently of whether a person is the first one to be born. 
     
    1 Chronicles 5:1-2 shows that Reuben was the first one born to Isaac and yet he lost this position due to bad conduct. The position of "firstborn" passed to Joseph. 
     
    David was called "firstborn" yet he was the youngest in the family (Psalm 89:27, 1 Samuel 16: 11-13). 
     
    Ephraim was called the "firstborn" even though he was the second born (Jeremiah 31:9, Genesis 41:51-52). 
     
    Thus we can see that the term "firstborn" can be used as a title. And it is in this sense that it is used in connection to Jesus in Colossians 1:15, it has nothing to do with sequence of birth or creation, but rather it is to do with authority.
     
    If Paul was saying that Jesus was the first one created then why didn’t he use the Greek word “protoktisis” (first-created) a term which is never used of Christ in the Scriptures?
     
    From the context we can know whether the Greek word prototokos in Col 1:15 means "first one born" or "the first in authority".
     
    In Col. 1:18 we read of Jesus, "so that He Himself might come to have first place in everything”, this clearly shows the way prototokos should be understood in the preceding verse.
     
    So from the context, the Greek word prototokos affirms Christ’s supremacy and sovereignty over all things and does not signify first in chronological sequence. <><
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    Another mark of cult mentality, you can use our publications for free to teach, but do not use them to teach. Why you guys still worship this governing body as Jehovah Himself is beyond me.
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