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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Dancing in Kingdom Halls to worldly music???   
    When I dance, people move back. When I sing, it fills the room and people leave to make MORE room ... and when I grin, food falls out!
    People point, and whisper to each other ... "Uh ... oh, he's ...um ... "special".
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Dancing in Kingdom Halls to worldly music???   
    If you want to be politically correct in the .ORG ... just remember this basic rule ......
    EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY PERMITTED, IS FORBIDDEN.
    This varies from place to place, and from time to time, and from person to person.
    ..... but not very much.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    It does appear that they are attempting to copywrite the NWT and all their publications. As far as being concerned about people misquoting their content, they have no concern when they misquote or take out of context other sources...most of the time not giving source information for the misquoted context.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    Of course not!
    I am re-tired.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Shiwiii in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    28 Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.”
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in Not in my Congregation! - We are not called Pastors anyhow! - Be on the Watch! ~?? ?   
    True. The last person at the Watch Tower Headquarters who was called Pastor, evidently never owned a car. The newspaper article starts out: Pastor Russell of the Peoples Pulpit Association today declared that he would use the yacht, Angel, presented to him by his association . . .

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Space Merchant in LEGAL DEVELOPMENTS | Russian Authorities Seize Assembly Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    There is a lot going in Russia that some do not realize, and has caused an uproar in the Russian community; I stated this before and what I say is true.
    That being said, as March 2018 draws near, the FSB and Kremlin continue to play the same tactic with opposers, so called "Heroes" and religious minorities.
     
    It is better to see things going on in Moscow by looking up news in Russia by the media that has not been blocked by the State Duma.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Dancing in Kingdom Halls to worldly music???   
    Now I'm not condemning these people for wanting to have some joy inside their house of worship, but a few things stand out...these congregations would have been strongly reproved, if not even some disfellowshipped 10-15 20 years ago. This kind of joy definitely would have made my childhood much more easier to endure. But not just that...at my church, worship is done with christian centered music, by christian artist praising God and Jesus. These video's the brothers and sisters are singing and dancing and plagiarizing worldly music, and dances that have been popular in bars and worldly plays. I'm glad to see brothers and sisters finally being allowed to laugh, dance, have fun while congregating in a kingdom hall, still have some doctrines that are wrong, but they are catching on with what is in the bible about worshiping and praising God with musical instruments and dancing.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    As you already mentioned, the "Kingdom Ministry" in September 2007 answered this question by saying: " 'the faithful and discreet slave' does not endorse any literature, meetings, or Web sites that are not produced or organized under its oversight."
    I wonder how they could have known that for sure. Did they take a survey of 9,500 different persons? After all, in 2007 the "faithful and discreet slave" consisted of about 9,500 persons who all claimed to be part of that "faithful and discreet slave." And the Governing Body who also claimed to be part of that slave, claimed in 2007 that all the persons who were of the anointed remnant class were included in that slave class, not just the Governing Body. 
    It was not until June 2009, that the Watchtower claimed that, even though all the anointed remnant were still part of that slave class, that only the Governing Body could represent them in "giving food at the proper time." To prove it, a scripture was quoted that had previously been used to prove exactly the opposite. The full context quoted should make it clear why this passage could be used to show that all the anointed remnant were part of the slave. But this time only the red portion of the passage was suggested for reading, and only the red, bolded, underlined portion below was actually quoted in the paragraphs:
    (1 Corinthians 12:14-13:3) 14 For, indeed, the body is made up not of one member but of many. 15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am no part of the body,” that does not make it no part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am no part of the body,” that does not make it no part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If it were all hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But now God has arranged each of the body members just as he pleased. 19 If they were all the same member, where would the body be? 20 But now they are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you,” or again, the head cannot say to the feet, “I do not need you.” 22 On the contrary, the members of the body that seem to be weaker are necessary, 23 and the parts of the body that we think to be less honorable we surround with greater honor, so our unseemly parts are treated with greater modesty, 24 whereas our attractive parts do not need anything. Nevertheless, God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that had a lack, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but its members should have mutual concern for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all the other members suffer with it; or if a member is glorified, all the other members rejoice with it. 27 Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you individually is a member. 28 And God has assigned the respective ones in the congregation: first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then powerful works; then gifts of healings; helpful services; abilities to direct; different tongues. 29 Not all are apostles, are they? Not all are prophets, are they? Not all are teachers, are they? Not all perform powerful works, do they? 30 Not all have gifts of healings, do they? Not all speak in tongues, do they? Not all are interpreters, are they? 31 But keep striving for the greater gifts. And yet I will show you a surpassing way. 13 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a clanging gong or a clashing cymbal. 2 And if I have the gift of prophecy and understand all the sacred secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I do not benefit at all. This next scripture, also used in the past to show that all the remnant were part of the "slave" class, was not quoted this time, although it says essentially the same thing:
    (Ephesians 2:19-22) 19 So you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens of the holy ones and are members of the household of God, 20 and you have been built up on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. 21 In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. 22 In union with him you too are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit. It was not until a talk in October 2012 and a Watchtower dated July 15, 2013 that the Governing Body finally claimed to be the "faithful and discreet slave" and changed the doctrine in a way that removed the rest of the remnant from the slave class.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Noble Berean in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    Legally, the WT has a basis to protect their literature from the few embittered ones who manipulate it to mislead others. But most anti-JW websites I see are pretty focused on referencing WT literature exactly as it is...they have no desire to twist it. They completely disagree with the core views of JWs, so cheap tactics like manipulation/photoshoppery aren't necessary. And to falsify content would discredit their own cause.
    I'm not arguing against the validity of copyright law, but copyright doesn't come from the Bible. It's a man-made law. The Bible doesn't come with copyrights. It was offered free to all by God, and no one can say "I own this book so don't use it in a way I don't like."
    The org has made 2 statements that when combined are concerning:
    1. It is the exclusive source of true spiritual food. 
    2. Its content is copyrighted.
    If the org truly believes both of these things, then they must believe they legally own true Bible discussion and interpretation. But they're actually blending the Bible and man-made laws to achieve this control. It feels icky. And they also feel they can police organic discussions on the internet. I'm sorry, but I can't help but see that as a control grab.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    “you wanna go out there…it’s at your spiritual risk”.  Sounds like fear-mongering. 
    What spiritual risk.  Being disfellowshipped for uncovering a lie, or two or three…and not keeping quiet about it.   
    “If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.”   Albert Einstein
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Ann O'Maly in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    "Stick with what we have authorized. You'll be safe." The article just underlines AMIII's admonishment and warning that 'unauthorized' internet activity exposes JWs to "spiritual danger."
    Is this forum and those like it GB authorized and approved? Of course not. 
    And remember the Question Box from the km 9/07?
    "Stick with what we have authorized."
    There will always be those who love to research and openly discuss their views online, and thereby have to rationalize away the GB's clear counsel. I say GOOD! because this new article is another attempt at information control.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in Changes in the Brochure: Who Are Doing God's Will Today?   
    Yes, the skirts on the right have been photo-shopped to go over he knees of the sisters. I suppose some brothers were getting....ummmm...a little..... excited..... at seeing knees?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Ann O'Maly in I hope the disfellowshipped ones do not attend the Memorial   
    @Jay Witness said that - not me
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to The Librarian in JW's Dance at an International Convention in Jakarta, Indonesia   
    The raising of the cell phones reminds me of the lighters people used to raise during rock concerts here in the USA.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Melinda Mills in Changes in the Brochure: Who Are Doing God's Will Today?   
    At first short look, lady in blue have two different posture of body, and of course length of skirt of other two lady :))
    "Worldly" woman wears trouser , but spiritual sisters wearing skirts :)))  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    Yeah!
    ... and I think ANYONE with the SLIGHTEST bit of common sense should be taken out into the Kingdom Hall parking lot and MAIMED!
    YEAH!
    Stupid apostates!
    GRRRRRRR.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    I do not know what you want specific proof of, but I was there, and paying close attention.
      It made a BIG impression on me as I noticed the only regular really "fun" thing that we had was shut down, and the inanity of the "save gas" excuse now rings even MORE hollow as I travel 4 hours to an Assembly, when I used to travel 1 .5 hours.
    You could ask any Elder that was there during that time period ... and ask to see the directive from the GB that shut that meeting down, with one of the SPECIFIC lame excuses that it was to save gas, in that directive. It was read at the meeting and posted on the Kingdom Hall bulletin board.
    Remember, unless you use approved words, in approved phrases, about approved ideas. using approved examples ... you will not be called on to give a comment. 
    Unless you are 90 years old, and you ramble on a lot about your experiences in 1943.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Menrov in Why do we subsidize Higher Education for the Elite JW's while discouraging most JW's from University Educations?   
    This is another topic in which the WBTS acts with double standards. If the higher education is to the benefit of the organization, it is embraced, but if it is in the benefit of the R&F, it is denied.......
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Is it time for this forum to close its doors?   
    This is the real reason the 2nd Mid-week meeting, usually in someone's home ... commonly known as the "Tuesday Night Book Study" was eliminated, years ago.  It in reality had NOTHING to do with saving gasoline, which was the lame excuse for it's being cancelled globally, among other lame excuses.
    People were having "Goodie Nights" about once a month with cakes and pie, and other goodies, afterwards ... AND DISCUSSING THINGS AMONG THEMSELVES, after the  Book Study.
    Malignant, evil things, like "That paragraph six made no sense to me... did it make any sense to you?"
    I particularly remember the "Commentary on the Book of James" ... longer by far than the actual Bible Book of James ... that made no sense to me ... but I thought at the time  it was my spiritual state being so poor EVERYBODY was "getting it" ..... except me.
    I am sure JW Insider has more details than I about who wrote it, and why .... but many years later I found out that the book we studied globally, once a week, was written by a group of Brothers as an inside joke to see what they could get away with ... and the entire writing committee was several years DF'd later for apostasy. 
    This explanation may or may not be true ... I wasn't there ... but THIS explanation made perfect sense to me.
    I do know that I have brought up the "Commentary" several times with Elders who were there at the time, merely stating it was longer than the Bible Book ... and they did not want to talk about it.
    Perhaps I should have offered then a piece of pie.
    ... for MANY reasons ... it  goes well beyond sad ....
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in I hope the disfellowshipped ones do not attend the Memorial   
    Sam Anya:
    AND the amazing thing is ... he willingly with fear and anguish gave up his life for them .... for sinners .... BEFORE they repented.
    You bring up an interesting point .... it was a closed meeting.  I never thought about that before.  Perhaps thousands of disciples were NOT invited.  
      I guess it was just an Apostolic meeting.
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Sam Anya in I hope the disfellowshipped ones do not attend the Memorial   
    !? 
    when prodigal son spent all money, then he recalled how it is good in his father's home, and all comfort/luxury and food are there. Father not asked him nothing about repentance and change of behaviour !! He accepted sons words and not asking nothing and not "investigate" about truthfulness and sincerity and change of attitude or about his motives!!    
    Bible report say nothing about these and similar "details" that are very important to elders and JW members under influence of elders rules. Did he/she repentant "enough" and is "that sort "of repentance sufficiently visible to imperfect man/judges who will be able, by that outside picture, to make decisions does he /she "embarrassing" - who or whom or not.      
     !? perfect imitating of father's love  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Jack Ryan in BBC 11-20-2017 Child Abuse Within Jehovah's Witnesses   
    In reverse order
    BBC Radio Hereford and Worcester - Kathleen Hallisey interviewed regarding Jehovah's Witness abuse cases
    IN PRINT: The Times Newspaper - Jehovah's Witnesses 'hushed up child abuse'
    IN PRINT: The Daily Mail Newspaper - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'
    IN PRINT: The Daily Telegraph Newspaper - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of covering up child abuse
    The Daily Mail - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'
    New York Post (US) - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of systematically covering up sex crimes
    The Daily Caller (US) - REPORT: Jehovah’s Witness Members Told Reporting Child Abuse ‘Would Bring Reproach On Jehovah’
    BBC Radio Scotland - 'Good Morning Scotland': Nick tells his story
    BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - JW Abuse - UK BBC TV Video
    BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
    The Daily Telegraph - Jehovah's Witnesses claim they were told not to report child sex abuse as organisation is accused of sheltering abusers
    BBC Radio 4: 'PM' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
    The Independent - Jehovah’s Witnesses deny sexual abuse within church was covered up
    BBC TV: 'News at One' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
    The Times - Jehovah’s Witness child abuse victims told ‘not to go to police’
    The Sun - VICTIMS HUSHED: Children who were raped by Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘told NOT to report abuse because it would shame the church’
    NewsOK (US) - Jehovah's Witnesses 'covered up' abuse
    International Business Times - Raped at the age of four, Jehovah's Witness told 'not to report' child abuse
    Birmingham Mail - Jehovah's Witnesses deny telling abuse victims not to call the police
    BBC News Online - Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse
    Mum-of-two raped by her brother when they were children slams appeal court for cutting his sentence, Daily Mirror, May 26, 2016
    Jail term cut for Richard Davenport who raped his sister Louise Palmer, Halesowen News, June 1, 2016
    Abused by my brother, then shunned by my Jehovah's Witnesses family after I went to police, Birmingham Mail, Oct 11, 2015
    My parents chose my brother, my abuser, over me. I can never forgive them for betrayal, Sunday People (Mirror), Oct 11, 2015
    Richard Davenport jailed for historic rapes, Halesowen News, Sept 22, 2015
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