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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    :)))) i just decide (temporary) to "imitate good example" of those who giving me down vote symbols. Nothing personal  to you :)))))))
    Thanks for good perception!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    OK! 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    heehhe Librarian would give you little monition (again), because you offend me and underestimate my life experience, past/history :))))))))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    Dear Nana,
    i see you gave me LIKE symbol, but...
    My thanking you for "very good arguments" was in irony mode. To clear misunderstanding  and meaning of written words i was send to you i will put it this way;
    "I am sorry Nana, but i don't see how your comment/explanation giving arguments."
    All best Nana!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    Jesus is bread and in that meaning is food for us, also as his blood is drink for us. 
    Serving to others (doing Father's will) was food for Jesus.
    Father's will for us is that Jesus teaching us. He is "Great Teacher" (book) :)))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    P.S. about food quality.
    Master is One who have  absolute ability to check "the food" and to say all critics and all compliments how and what food was served on a table. Here we have two segments, as you JW Insider also concluded; 
    1) Perfect food from Jesus is served on the table
    2) Rooted food from Human is served on the table
    Is table the same table? Or we have two and more tables?
    If table is one, and we sitting and waiting for food. And then food start to coming 3-5 time in a day and for weeks and for years. Did I or you not developed ability to recognize all  different tastes and smells of food? How was food served on table? Did same servant came and bring food or some new faces coming with new dishes? 
    Who is responsible if i am eating food which taste is suspicious to me (food is not "perfect) and i am stubborn in decision to eat "imperfect", rooted food despite of fact how my taste buds and nose and eyes start to questioning the food? "Kitchen chef" will answer to Master. To whom will answer "distributor of food" the one who bringing food on table? I guess also to Master, no matter did he knew or not what was happen in kitchen in cooking process. And what will be with hungry people around the table. Can they "sue" Chef or Waiter for food they ate? Or to make complain?  It depend.  :)))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    Yes, GB  does produce "food" (millions of printed/published publication proved this). In text you explained very well about rooted food from FDS aka GB. Such "product" is not from "heaven". Well who is Producer/Manufacturer  of such rooted food?? 
    If "slave" doing his job well he will not received any compliment from Master. Because his job is to work, to serve. And other slaves around this particular "slave" not need to sing praises about "slave" who bring food on table, And also this particular "slave" must quietly doing his job and not talking around how he doing this or that and how all his work is fantastic and unique in the whole world. Such servant is not Modest. And will not receive higher position in Master's household. 
    I agree with you, if understand you correctly, how every person is/can be FDS in some situation.
    I agree how illustration about FDS  tells us nothing about Quality of Food. So, GB self conclusion about  what  words "Jesus never said" is pure manipulation and deceiving.  They, GB also sometimes using fraze, while introducing new theories or new changes of doctrines, like this: "Jesus was thought, He obviously meant ..." and then put OWN human idea :)))
    Also, GB by own retrospective self evaluation of food quality ("perfect food" vs "imperfect food") shows how they consider themselves not only as "producer aka kitchen chef" and "sharers aka distributors" of food BUT also as  inspector and controller of food quality. They appropriated the right to evaluate food - this right belongs to the Lord, Master.
    Blessed you!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    He ask, rhetorical question; "Who is FDS?" In asking Jesus not gave the answer.
    Only 2 conclusions;
    A - IF FDS giving food he is ok and will receive revard 
    B - IF FDS not giving food he will be punished. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    LESSONS FOR TODAY (WT study edition, nov 2013)
    17 . ....(3) At that time, the LIFE-SAVING DIRECTIONS that we receive FROM Jehovah’s ORGANIZATION may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us MUST BE READY TO OBEY ANY INSTRUCTIONS we may receive, whether these appear SOUND from a strategic or human standpoint OR NOT.    AND NOW (after few years we have) SALTO MORTALE “WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?” (WT study edition, feb 2017) 
    12 The Governing Body IS NEITHER INSPIRED NOR INFALLIBLE. Therefore, IT CAN ERR IN DOCTRINAL MATTERS OR IN ORGANIZATIONAL DIRECTION. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, JESUS DID NOT TELL US THAT his faithful SLAVE WOULD PRODUCE PERFECT spiritual food.
      Basement Video on Convention is one example of direct statement  how should, would, will JW be saved  by resurrection . :)))
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    'There are seven. Just seven. And the GB members never used to until they started hanging out here too much. They had to face the incessant barrage of persons demanding equal (or greater) say, though such ones manifested little interest in doing comparable work. I fear they have or will suffer the same fate as Paul, who went "mad" dealing with these small persons with giant ambitions:
    Are they ministers of Christ? I reply like a madman, I am more outstandingly one: I have done more work,been imprisoned more often, suffered countless beatings, and experienced many near-deaths.Five times I received 40 strokes less one from the Jews, three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned,  three times I experienced shipwreck, a night and a day I have spent in the open sea;  in journeys often, in dangers from rivers, in dangers from robbers, in dangers from my own people, in dangers from the nations, in dangers in the city, in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers among false brothers, in labor and toil, in sleepless nights often, in hunger and thirst, frequently without food, in cold and lacking clothing.  Besides those things of an external kind, there is what rushes in on me from day to day: the anxiety for all the congregations.Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is stumbled, and I am not incensed? (2 Corinthians 11:23-29)
    What are the qualifications of these superfine apostles? They have not done the work, but the have followed the admonition of @Israeli Bar Avaddhon to 'study their Bibles' more.
    There is no nice way to put it. Paul went nuts dealing with these idiots and I fear for the GB, too. Paul had to join @The Librarian for a stiff drink after his tirade had ended, pouring himself another each time the old biddy looked away to take another bite of her taco.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    and benefited from the experience not at all it seems.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    So no jehovahs witness here is willing to provide a study that says apostates are 3 times more likely to have a mental illness, or along those lines. Again jw's support this claim, but are too cowardly to back it up with facts, just a video from a professor that even himself admits, all the data he has is old, unreliable, biased and not trustworthy. 
    Thank you jw's for showing even further your true colors.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    I learned a lot from my grandmother, who we all called Nana, as a kid.
    Also, here is a treat for hungry as a hog @The Librarian

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Jesus Turns Water into Wine ????❤️   
    Youth is wasted on the young.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Jesus Turns Water into Wine ????❤️   
    It's been a long time, but many years ago I noticed that the more you drank, the better everything else became.  During the 1960's after an Assembly, and after the Saturday session we all went "bar hopping" afterwards. There was about 15 of us at a table about 3 AM and we were all feeling no pain whatsoever, and there was a Sister that I was interested across the table from me.  She had been in the Air Force before she became a Witness, and she was telling her story, which I thought was fascinating, and she had my undivided attention, even when she mentioned she had lost her left leg in a traffic accident, after she got out.  I thought "Hey!, what a gal!", and thought about her after the group broke up and we all went our separate ways.
    The next day, Sunday, somebody pointed her out to me  at the Assembly at a distance, and I did not recognize her at all, even though I had spent hours right across the table  from her.
    It was years later that I  learned that this was a common occurrence, from a non-Witness, who explained to me that after  "bar hopping" for awhile, when you are in a bar at 3AM, all women are beautiful!

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Israeli Bar Avaddhon in What does a person have to do to survive Armageddon?   
    Regardless of the fact that I do not share much of the Governing Body's explanation, when did the time for Jerusalem's destruction approach them, they did not have to stand up and go? Did not they have to do something practical and immediately even if they were old and sick?
    From what little I understood (little: I used the translator) would not it have been enough that they had faith in Jehovah?
    Since Jehovah is Almighty and can protect His people in any circumstance, Christians of the first century could also decide not to leave Jerusalem, no?
    Obviously there are many other things to say.
    The instructions come from the Word of God (and will not come from a divine inspiration) so it is important to study the Bible to understand what we must do when approaching the Armageddon War.
    But many of us believe they have understood everything and are not allowed to discuss or look.
    They wait for instructions from others.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    This information is publicly available from court transcripts and records:
    The $4000/day sanctions refer to Osbaldo Padron/Gonzalo Campos trial where Irwin Zalkin is seeking documents in order to build his case against WT.
    The perpetrator, Gonzalo Campos, (baptized in 1980, appointed a ministerial servant in 1988,  elder in 1993 and serving as  a pioneer for several years) allegedly molested at least 8 known children in various congregations between 1982 and 1995. In 2010 he fled to Mexico.
    6 of these cases against WT were settled out of court. The 7th case was the victim Jose Lopez, who was awarded 13.5 million by the WT, and the last, 8th case, is the victim Osbaldo Padron.
    Zalkin is seeking proof that WT was aware of Campo’s first child molestation (or the allegation thereof) and that despite this knowledge, Campos managed to molest at least 7 more victims in several congregations.  WT allegedly was told of the first case of molestation in 1982, by the victim, and made a record of it. This is one of the records Zalkin wants.
    Further, the key to the Padron/Campos investigation is a letter that was sent to the body of elders in 1997 based on the 1991 Kingdom Ministry Question box which states:
     "When a publisher moves to another area, what should be done to assist in the transfer to a new congregation?
    As soon as a publisher arrives from another congregation, the congregation secretary should obtain from the publisher the name of his former congregation and the name and address of the secretary of that congregation. He should then write to the secretary of the former congregation, requesting the Congregation’s Publisher Record card and a letter of introduction. The secretary receiving this request should respond without delay.—See Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry, pages 104-5. etc......."
     According to Zalkin, those “transfer” or “introduction” letters with regard to Gonzalo Campos would prove that WT knew about Gonzalo Campo’s previous molestations.
    It is those transfer/introduction letters that are costing us $4000/day.
    If I am not mistaken, Zalkin is asking for every transfer/introduction letter the elders have ever written in every congregation since 1982
    WT did apparently oblige, and did make available some letters, however they were apparently so heavily redacted, that they were of no use. (the names of perpetrators, congregations, as well as the addresses and contact information of the congregation, towns where abuse occurred, and law enforcement agencies that investigated claims were all redacted).
    The court is not expecting to know the names of the elders handling the cases, nor the names of the victims.
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to The Librarian in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    @TrueTomHarley @Srecko Sostar rude behavior is not tolerated.  Let’s tone it down please. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    I'm crying plenty - anytime I reflect upon your obsession over the minutia of a religion you left long ago.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to The Librarian in $66 Million Class Action Lawsuit Filed in Canada   
    @Srecko Sostar Don't thank me. Thank the @admin (I am just following his guidelines above)
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    Yeah, @Nana Fofana, excellent point Srecko makes here! Why can't you quote any scriptures about what is happening 2000 years after they were written, hmm?
    For that matter, where is the scripture saying you can call yourself Nana on the internet? Srecko is very wise. Don't think you can slip anything past him.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    From that article it would seem the governing body already knows most of their congregants have mental issue's.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    :)))) interesting
    Yeah, such effect is possible. So, it is visible in all known proverb "the tree can bend as long as it is young". That is why Bethel, or Military or Schools or some other organization can get better results with young people than with older. 
     
     
      
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in 24 YEAR OLD BETHELITE WOMAN RECENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED FOR APOSTASY COMMITS SUICIDE!   
    He probably became depressed because he couldn't have her. When they are that young, romantic love is so overwhelming that you are willing to die if you can't have that person. It's an age old story, older than Romeo & Juliette.  If he was older, he might have been able to reason it out a little bit more rationally, and perhaps even do it his own way. It is tragic. I feel so sorry for his mother
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