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Srecko Sostar

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Apostate Attack   
    The man in the video you posted was speaking according to the Bible – stressing who Christ is and his importance, while de-emphasizing menÂ’s doctrine.
    And for that, he was silenced. John 16:2
    “You study the Scriptures, because you think that in them you will find eternal life. And these very Scriptures speak about me!  Yet you are not willing to come to me in order to have life.”  John 5:39,40
    “I have come with my Father's authority, but you have not received me; when, however, someone comes with his own authority, (the GB) you will receive him.”  John 5:43
    “False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction.  Even so, many will follow their immoral ways; and because of what they do, others will speak evil of the Way of truth.  In their greed these false teachers will make a profit out of telling you made-up stories. For a long time now their Judge has been ready, and their Destroyer has been wide awake!”  2 Pet 2:1-3
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in How Common is Shunning?   
    Be careful in high-fiving @Witness is my caution to you. She tirelessly presents herself here as Jehovah's true annointed - which would make her your new boss.
    Isn't that the 'Who' song?  Meet the new boss - Worse than the old boss!
     
    Outrageous disgusting blatant hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for calling our attention to this!
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Cognitionis in How Common is Shunning?   
    We are just humans, and we all have our good and bad. And must be able, have courage to say it.
    This afternoon i was recal one simple and "not important" behaviour in some other every day circumstances. Let me tell you.  The brother from the former assembly often parks his car on the parking lot, near the school where I work. This is a parking lot for my colleague school staff and two other institutions in the same building. He has no right to park there, but he still does. But what is ironic is this. After I left JWorg, he did not want to greet me on the street when we met  each other once, twice. But when his car was "trapped" in the parking lot because the ramp was down, he sent me an SMS message and asked me to help him get out. :)) Hypocrisy or not?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Perhaps GB as part of Kingdom administration (Kings , Priests....) have clear and sound position on this question. :))) 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    As it is written in Bible, we have this: 
    1)God made execution or some kind of punishment for ignoring/disobeying Divine Law
    2)Religious people made execution or some kind of punishment for ignoring/disobeying Divine Law
    3)Secular authorities made execution or some kind of punishment for ignoring/disobeying Divine Law principles that are incorporated in Secular Law
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    1 Samuel 14:31-35New International Version (NIV)
    31 That day, after the Israelites had struck down the Philistines from Mikmash to Aijalon, they were exhausted. 32 They pounced on the plunder and, taking sheep, cattle and calves, they butchered them on the ground and ate them, together with the blood. 33 Then someone said to Saul, “Look, the men are sinning against the Lord by eating meat that has blood in it.”
    :)))))) and going to toilet for small or big need is also natural.....
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    By your opinion, in this matter - Who is closer to Bible truth? JW or Amish?   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in How Common is Shunning?   
    Notice she still has her baby teeth?
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in How Common is Shunning?   
    Srecko, how well you have revealed Watchtower's hypocrisy.
    “How horrible it will be for you, experts in Moses’ Teachings and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You are like whitewashed graves that look beautiful on the outside (a charity organization! ) but inside are full of dead people’s bones and every kind of impurity.  So on the outside you look as though you have God’s approval, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness."  Matt 23:27,28 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in How Common is Shunning?   
    One man's fantasy and belly laugh is another man's cause for fear,  grief and tears.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in How Common is Shunning?   
    This sounds like an example of 'natural' law to me.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Divine Law is above our philosophizing. Or also, will said, above speculation by GB. 
    None of us, mostly nobody, has any difficulty understanding the basic moral provisions that are the content in Divine Law. Some of the basics are presented in the 10 commandments. Jesus' 2 commandments are essence on all 10 and all 1110 or more if you like. And this is the closest to, what i have named, Natural Conscience, because the Source of Human conscience is WHO? GOD! We as some kind people of "faith", "believers" would normally be in harmony on that and such reasoning and statement. Would we? Bible said so.
    "Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the Law, do by nature what the Law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the Law, since they show that the work of the Law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them." - Rom 12
    God is the source of Perfect conscience in Adam and Eve, but He is also Source of Imperfect conscience in all people after them. If God have no problem to accept imperfect human conscience and products of such conscience,  by what license, by whose permission, GB have, GB takes the right to have authority over Conscience of JW members. How he acquired such a right? He named himself (self-appointed) as Distributor of "food" and an Official interpreter of "words" ("Guardians of doctrine" according to G. Jackson  testimony in front ARC)
    So because of the fact how all people around the Earth have very close, similar moral standards. And that is the core of that part of my comments and discussion. And because that state of Conscience which is common to all humans,  it is not natural how GB making "interpretations on some Bible text" and by interpretations create rules that directs, channeled/ing people's emotions, mind and deeds.
    Directed criticism at the policy of the WT does not include discussion of the basic moral demands we are obliged to do! Obligated as Human, not as Members of this or that.
     
      
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Apostate Attack   
    That is definitely the wrong way to go about having a dialogue with witnesses. This is a better way.....
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Apostate Attack   
    It is a well known fact that religious people are all mentally ill and professional apostates at the church down the street from YOUR church.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Apostate Attack   
    Dear Nicole, 
    How is it that they are “mentally ill”, these “professional” apostates?  Was their language foul?  Were their stories insincere?  Were they physically aggressive?   Did they personally abuse anyone?
    It would seem to me that one is mentally ill when an elder or elder body chooses to harbor a pedophile in the organization; deliberately ignoring the large chance that another innocent one may be victimize, because of their insane decision to handle the matter ‘in house’.
    We know where that leads, don’t we. 
    Just saying.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    If you "believe" in something what you see or hear directly that is not faith or "believing". You need to reconsider  the concept of belief, believing.
    If you not want or if you can not accepting reality how that is possible and more of that, how that happened in some JW congregations, your personal attitude and opinion, not deleting reality of life events.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Apologize, did I not understand this sentence quite correct?  "...Christian congregation does not tell Witness families not to associate with df'd children."....
    I based my comment on this particular sentence.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    2016 Convention movie program rejects, disproves such yours conviction. At 6:15 phone ringing but mum ignored daughter call.
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Geoffrey Jackson expose before ARC in 2015 mentioned this issue in answering to Judge questions. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Natural God given Conscience vs Artificial, so called "bible trained conscience", imposed and ruled by GB
    I hope that, giving like, upvote and approval on your perception ability, given by me to your comments would not insult you  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    This kid was in adult age at that time and rest of family has been couraged  to maximally limit contacts with him and "counseled" how spiritual health of family would be better if df kid find another place for living. "Counsels" was in all kinds of instructions, Bible, examples from WT publications and informations that elders have on such matters.  As to my knowledge, this df kid feeled this emotional coldness and spiritual pressure that was puted on rest of family and because such conditions lived the house. How was looked all that in everyday real life i do not know, but it is possible to imagine all tensions, fears, tears, inside battles of mind and heart...   
    You can not believe that such young children were baptised in JWorg ? :)))      
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    I know some JW members (family) with very sad experience. Family with few children. Parents are divorced. One parent stayed   with 4 minor children. The oldest was baptized in age of 6 as i recall. Then with time all other children was baptized but also in young teenage age. First child was df about in time of high school. Stayed under same roof, but  rest of "faithful" members reduce very much contacts. Elders made pressure on family to throw df child out of home. And child was gone after some time. One by one rest of children was also left JWorg. In one moment while they was been member of cong. elders made pressure and rebuke all them because they (children) spend few days in summer time with their df father. After such emotional torture of elders one minor kid cut vein on hands and must be hospitalized. After that "last drop" for her young mind and emotions, all went down. She is "damaged". And no one of elders take responsibility for her "soul".      
    Is that good material for Court? Is that violation of Human Rights that was made under/because of Church Rules and Policy? Is it possible to separate so called "religious, doctrinal interpretations of Bible text" with "rules and instructions made by JW Clergy, Priesthood" vs Natural Law vs Secular Law?  
    WT JWorg are private Company in the very core, in essence. And as such been legalized in various country as Company, Charity Society or similar entities. As such is under some General Law and Acts. Every JW member became member, get status of membership at the moment of baptism. And by that act  Contract was made between minor children or adult person and WT Company.   
    Court have no interest to made decisions is some religious teaching or doctrine right or wrong, true or false. But when belief system produce "emotional torture" and other sort of torture, intellectual, spiritual, psychological - then that can be material for secular authorities.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in How Common is Shunning?   
    Hehe, Violations of Human Rights is when WT JWorg and their representatives forbid  JW members to exercise their Personal Human Rights and talk, or make social contacts on all levels or to sit and eat and drink if wish, or even say simple "hello" on the street to ex-member. This WT command are with the threat of excommunication, disfellowshiping. If that not be with such extreme consequences many JW members will communicate with ex members. And many of them doing that. I am ex member of JW church and on my glad surprise more JW members find that is all right to speak with me. They "disobey"  WT interpretation on canonic text  but obey their god given Natural conscience instead Artificial "bible learned conscience" that is imposed and runned by WT Corporation.
    And as Court say, "their interpretation of canonical text, and we are not free to reinterpret that text. . . ."
    Perhaps Court (because of wisdom, ahaha) do not want to involve themselves in endless reasoning about what some bible text mean and how is to be understand. But all other people who want to tell something are Free to tell and comment.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Anna in How Common is Shunning?   
    No. I like to be fair, so I hope my perception was fair too. I generally try not to defend something that is obviously wrong or indefensible.
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