Srecko Sostar

The actual or present "truth" vs past and future "truth". Never ending story.  

Could it be that is the best you can do?
 

So, FH, why not give a point by point rebuttal instead of your valueless imaginary generalizations?

The process of self-condemnation should be more pronounced with WTJWorg GB persons and JWs as a whole. Self-condemnations for believing in the vanity of human teachings. Self-judgments due to constant circling around hypotheses and theology.

Sorry, but WTJWorg is not an educational institution. WTJWorg is not a scientific institution.
WTJWorg is a religiously colored corporation. Members are mostly naive in their honesty.
Science has a "right" to make mistakes because they do not claim to be "guided by the holy spirit". GB claims that they are the only ones in the whole world who are "HS driven" so such a claim disqualifies them from their own justification that they are prone to "inaccuracies" because they are not "perfect".

Sorry, but WTJWorg is not an educational institution. WTJWorg is not a scientific institution.
WTJWorg is a religiously colored corporation. Members are mostly naive in their honesty.
Science has a "right" to make mistakes because they do not claim to be "guided by the holy spirit". GB claims that they are the only ones in the whole world who are "HS driven" so such a claim disqualifies them from their own justification that they are prone to "inaccuracies" because they are not "perfect".

Individuals, (current and former members primarily) who are more familiar with the content and management model of "spiritual food" and followers in WTJWorg, have no need, if they are objectively conscientious, to engage in any manipulation of the written and spoken word by the leaders at WTJWorg.
Religious JW leaders are dangerous enough to themselves because of their spoken and written words, both in front of their own followers, in front of secular authorities and in front of the media.
The latest example of this is your former GB member A. Morris III. A huge number of his video lectures, photos and statements have been deleted from all digital media, as far as I have been able to find out from various sources. 
If that elder spoke theological and theocratic truth while he was a member of GB, did it become a lie after his office ceased?
Your religious leaders are your manipulators, in fact. Perhaps it is your psychological need to declare other people outside of WTJWorg as manipulators because you are in fact powerless to find meaningful answers to your own inner doubts, questions and fears within your own brotherhood.

"Open JW Club" does not require identification of participants. Everyone who is familiar with my posts and comments, from first one, knows who I am. If you wanted to know the details, you could have asked for it in a more subtle and polite way, without categorizing people according to your value system.
Thanks.

EVERY time you use the term “former members …” you assume homogenous thinking of both groups, and is a prima facia admission of ignorance of reality.
What makes it worse it that it is deliberate and premeditated ignorance, actively denying reality.
That is what agenda driven thinking ALWAYS does.
The PROOF of it is clearly shown here, when you spasm downvote historically straight simple facts.

Until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the United States faked “neutrality” toward the Nazis, and loudly proclaimed its “neutrality” about the war in Europe … while at the same time shipping enough supplies to England to “sink the Island”.
As a Conscientious Objector during the Vietnam War, it took me a long time to realize that being against war in general resonates and is in fact a political stance, and that NOT doing something IS POLITICAL AND BEING INVOLVED IN POLITICS.
That is REALITY.
The only time in the entire history of humanity that there was no politics was before Eve was created!

"Open JW Club" does not require identification of participants. Everyone who is familiar with my posts and comments, from first one, knows who I am. If you wanted to know the details, you could have asked for it in a more subtle and polite way, without categorizing people according to your value system.
Thanks.

An excerpt from the Public Information Department of the Jehovah’s Witnesses United States of America said: “At a time when the desire for better government is on the minds of people the world over, Jehovah’s Witnesses will launch an international campaign to bring attention to a universal solution.
Spokesperson Luke Branco said: “It is no secret that many people are frustrated with rulership. 
..., "Mr Branco said the local congregations are united with Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. He said they were upset with the way the Jehovah’s Witnesses and people of all faiths and backgrounds are being treated because of governance. ..."
https://www.royalgazette.com/religion/lifestyle/article/20230902/jehovahs-witnesses-launch-campaign-through-magazine/
 
This statements cannot be considered "neutral". He states that the JWs are not satisfied with the governments that rule. So they are dissatisfied with YHVH's decision to "allow" existing governments to exist and rule.
Furthermore, they claim that other religions and people of other origins and worldviews are not satisfied with this situation either.
So WTJWorg and their International Brotherhood will be offering prayers to God, not only for JWs but for all those other types of people who feel the same as JWs - disappointed.
By doing so, they create and generate internationally organized rebellious behavior directed against the legitimate authorities who are "appointed by God to their positions."
At the same time, they claim that the WTJWorg organization is a physical expression of Christ's invisible reign on Earth since 1914, which will soon replace all "earthly" reigns. Paradoxical and inappropriate action of a non-political and non-profit organization.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1957327
Use Theocratic War Strategy
The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom—1957
 
.., So in time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. ...,
 
After this instruction from WTJWorg "Mother Organization", can one really trust what a JW member says?

In order to write like that, you must be being paid by the word.
Whatever you are being paid … it’s too much.
….. sounds EXACTLY like Doodyville’s Mayor, Phineas T. Bluster. 


 
 

Do you notice the similarity? The secret becomes public, sooner or later. Religious institutions (there are no true and false) have the same pattern of behavior. Covering up and trying to keep a "clean" face in front of the public, one's own and the other's.
 
“DURING the past decade, some 400 Roman Catholic priests have been reported to church or civil authorities for sexual abuse of children,” according to U.S.News & World Report. Recently, a national gathering of survivors of such abuse was held near Chicago, Illinois. Many spoke openly of how they had been victimized by pedophile priests.
But NCR (National Catholic Reporter) notes that speakers sounded another theme repeatedly throughout the conference: “The first abuse is sexual; the second and more painful, is psychological.” This second abuse occurs when the church refuses to listen to victims of abuse, fails to take their accusations seriously, and moves only to protect the offending priests. “Fairly or unfairly,” NCR reports, “they portrayed Catholic clergy as belonging to an unhealthy and misguided group more bent on preserving privilege and power than in serving lay needs.” Several speakers made ominous comparisons to the Reformation, which split the church wide open in the 16th century.
According to Richard Sipe, a former priest turned psychotherapist and expert on sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, all this institutional denial reveals “a deep, desperate and knowing personal involvement in the problem.” He added: “The church knows and has known for a long time a great deal about the sexual activity of its priests. It has looked the other way, tolerated, covered up and simply lied about the broad spectrum of sexual activity of its priests.”
Not surprisingly, then, many abuse survivors are suing the church. NCR quotes one attorney who specializes in such cases as saying that there are pedophile-priest cases in each of the church’s 188 dioceses in the United States. He says that out-of-court settlements have run as high as $300,000 per case. U.S.News & World Report says that such suits have already cost the church $400,000,000, a figure that could surge to $1 billion by the year 2000. And the Canadian Press reported recently that some 2,000 survivors of childhood sexual abuse in 22 church-run orphanages and mental institutions in Quebec are suing six religious orders for $1.4 billion in damages.
Interestingly, though, the aforementioned U.S. attorney, who represents 150 victims of pedophile priests in 23 states, says that he has never yet had a client who was eager to go to court. Each one first tried to seek justice “within the pastoral context of the church.” NCR concludes: “Survivors go to the courts, it appears, not as a first resort, but as a last resort.”

Hence, at the business meeting of all shareholder-voters of the Society on October 2, 1944, it was unanimously voted that the Society’s charter be revised and be brought into closer harmony with theocratic principles. Membership would not now be unlimited as to number but would be between 300 and 500, all of whom would be men chosen by the board of directors, not on the basis of monetary contributions, but because they were mature, active, faithful Witnesses of Jehovah who were serving full-time in the work of the organization or were active ministers of congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses. These members would vote for the board of directors, and the board of directors would then select its officers. These new arrangements went into effect the following year, on October 1, 1945. What a protection this has proved to be in an era when hostile elements have frequently manipulated business affairs so as to take control of corporations and then restructure them to suit their own aims!
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101993018

*** w01 7/1 p. 30 Annual Meeting October 6, 2001 ***
THE ANNUAL MEETING of the members of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania will be held on October 6, 2001, at the Assembly Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses, 2932 Kennedy Boulevard, Jersey City, New Jersey. A preliminary meeting of the members only will convene at 9:15 a.m., followed by the general annual meeting at 10:00 a.m.
The members of the corporation should inform the Secretary’s Office now of any change in their mailing addresses during the past year so that the regular letters of notice and proxies can reach them during July.
The proxies, which will be sent to the members along with the notice of the annual meeting, are to be returned so as to reach the Office of the Secretary of the Society not later than August 1. Each member should complete and return his proxy promptly, stating whether he is going to be at the meeting personally or not. The information given on each proxy should be definite on this point, since it will be relied upon in determining who will be present.
It is expected that the entire session, including the formal business meeting and reports, will be concluded by 1:00 p.m. or shortly thereafter. There will be no afternoon session. Because of limited space, admission will be by ticket only. No arrangements will be made for tying in the annual meeting by telephone lines to other auditoriums.
Terminology changed. They are not sharholders but Members - Voters.
Money is not in their pockets, it seems, but somewhere else.
 
*** yb73 p. 258 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania ***
A little after ten o’clock the annual business meeting was called to order and, by proxy and persons present, there were 423 members of the Pennsylvania corporation in attendance. They reelected as members of the board of directors for three years M. G. Henschel, N. H. Knorr and L. A. Swingle.

… besides … it’s a military secret.

it reminds me of something Hillary Clinton said after Bill Clinton’s problems with Monica Lewinsky and the other bimbo eruptions and all the legal fees associated with that, and they were down to $40 million dollars.  she cried out they were broke and didn’t have any money. Apparently among  her and her group of peers, if you’re down to $20 million you were considered destitute.
 

Of course there may be many reasons the WTB&TS did not make the chart. They have never published ANY financial data to the Brotherhood, so above the Circuit level, there is no way to know. The maze of Corporations would confound a team of specialists.