Srecko Sostar

If somebody today made a "sin" and after that come to the state of repentance and god forgive him,  he is free from that sin.
If tomorrow he made new"sin" of same kind or another kind and after that come to the state of repentance and god forgive him,  he is free from that sin.
Answer Yes or No have to  come from Above not from me  :)))))))))) please read Bible more frequently and mediate, it will be helpful... maybe. :))))))))   

you are very polite person when you tell, "please". I am giving you  + for that 
But you also said, "I want a yes or no answer". I am giving you - for that  
But there is no answer! Will one be forthcoming?

yes it has. I cannot be angry at other's opinions, everyone is different. The part where I get what you call "angry" is when the conversations turn into personal attacks with no basis other than a difference of view. 
I will read this, but I cannot accept that it is YOUR opinion. It is the opinion of the wt, while you may agree it still is not put forth in your words and vision. 
 
I omitted the actual parts of scripture to keep the thread from becoming too long. We can read the fullness above in previous posts. 
 
I'm not quite sure were it is derived that Sarah is God's wife. I'd like if you could expand on that if you can. 
If we take the scripture you gave (and I did too) Galatians 4:26, it says that she represents "Jerusalem from above" and compare that with Revelation 21. We see that Sarah/Jerusalem from above is the Bride of Christ/wife of the Lamb. 
Revelation 21:
2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 
9 Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,
 
I feel this clearly tells us that Sarah represents those who make up the Bride of Christ. These that are of Sarah/Jerusalem from above will outnumber those of the first covenant (Israel). 
 
I agree to a point. We can go deeper later. The reason why I say this is because the way I read this and the way you read this is totally different even though the words are the same. Correct me if I am wrong here, but I think you see this statement as having a limitation to who are joint heirs. I just don't see it that way, but we can discuss that later once we wrap our minds around "Jerusalem from above".
 
 I agree on the first century Jews being represented by Ishmael and the covenant. I do not agree that God has cast Israel aside and replaced the Jews. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 speak of those who slander the Jews or claim to be Jews and are not. This contrast alone should prove that God still has a plan for the Jews. If God condemns those who claim to be Jews but are not, then there has to be some value to being a Jew at that point in time (future as revelation is future). 
 
 
Angels do not reproduce and thus the term "barren" wouldn't really apply.
Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
we see here that angels are not given in marriage, and marriage is for the populating of the Earth as God said in Genesis. This continues to explain why the rest of your statement needs more clarification, but we will get to that later. 
I don't think we are at this point yet, but I am looking forward to this when we get there. 
 
Again, we must first understand each others opinion on "Jerusalem from above" before we can dive in to the other parts. That doesn't mean we have to agree, but understand; supported by scripture.  Otherwise we are playing a game of ping pong, bouncing from this topic to that topic. 

This answers NOTHING of what your position is. If I wanted to hear from the WT, I'd look it up myself. I want to know how YOU fit the two. If it is the same, then by all means put it into your own words and support it with scripture and I'll be happy to discuss, but If all you are going to do is point to a website, then forget it. This is a discussion board to bounce our ideas, thoughts and understandings off of each other in order to grow more in depth of our understanding about this world we live in and the people that exist here. 

Your feelings are your feelings, but I'm not about to sit here and read a cut and paste from WT. If what they say is exactly what you feel/believe, ok fine but I'm not reading pages from them. I'd much rather read what you feel and believe from your own words. I understand and will take your position into thought the next time we discuss. I doubt we will because I cannot fathom a person who stands convicted by what the WT says but cannot put it into their own words for meaningful discussion. 
 
Good day.

When Paul circumcised Timothy it is not an example of Paul implementing Jewish Law!  This happened AFTER the governing body in Jerusalem had already decided that NO more circumcision to be done by Christians. Acts 15:6-29
Paul knew in his mind how these Jews were prejudiced against Timothy because they knew his father was Greek - and he wanted Timothy to accompany him on the preaching work to the Jewish people.  So he knew they would not accept Timothy to preach to them - this is why he was practical to circumcise Timothy.  It sets a good example for us to be adaptable when preaching to unbelievers.  BUT later he chastised Peter for hypocrisy when he hypocritically did not eat with Christians who were uncircumcised. Rom2:25-29; Phl3:3
Jehovah required the circumcised Jews to also be circumcised in their hearts: Jer 4:4

Sostar, I do not agree.  If someone has committed adultery - do you think they have repented if they repeat the behavior?  I want a yes or no answer please.  

Of course He desires this. But if you go to "for elders eye only - Shepherd book" you will see how term, concept "repentance" have many human explanations, rules, elements about how to "recognize" is it  particular repentance real repentance, from bro or sis who are confronted with elders and/or judicial committee. Here i can comment on your next thought when you wrote...
Here we have again, that people in own understanding of Gods standard made their interpretation/s on what is "standards" in case of "repentance" and made rules, list on this - what look like real, genuine, sincere repentance. Here we have; 1) man made models of how must repentance look like, and   2) you have few humans who make decision/s for you on their personal, subjective interpretations about how you, as sinner in front them, looks like, do you show "enough"  repentance that is "visible" to them, elders. :))))      

In general, all names or labels, etiquette that have connections to Jesus way of teaching and living is given by people of 1. century or later. Jesus had not give any name to his own "movement". And if he organized something that has been, sending to preaching, nothing else. 
 
No problem! But it is need to understand how first Christ followers, as Paul who wrote many things about "organizing" in fact imitate Jews congregation that God rejected in the same time. Because they, first christians, was in fact Jews people, and they technically replicate religious system in which they lived. I the same time they tried to integrate NEW Teachings from his Master. New teachings that has been "apostate teaching" according to Jewish Clergy and Mosaic Law.
 
You Anna make complain if I find only one example in Bible :))) Maybe i am not reading enough to find more examples, heehe. Ok, i have again just one bible report on this.  The evildoer who was hang beside Jesus have no one of preconditions that JW said is crucial for salvation. Bible study, changing bad deeds to good deeds, prayers, congregational meetings, baptism, going to preaching and many other rules and commands that has to be obeyed.. He do only one thing, just said; "I believe!" So if Jesus accepted just words why you or other JW teaching how this is not enough?  
    One report is enough if you believe that is inspired and truthful and that all Word is beneficial. OT and NT. I have permission to called it "old" because i as people from "Gentile" have no obligation to follow or to be in obey to  any of Mosaic law and command. So, i am free to consider and accept it or to be critical in my thinking about OT. The same is with NT also. Because, as i mentioned before, there is some "principles" or teachings that has their roots in OT congregations and Law. And as Jesus teaches, his disciples are not under obligation to obey and follow The Law. But in 1 century first congregation done just same mistake JW doing today, replicate OT Law in Christian congregation.  It is little delicate to discuss on this because it is tricky to see what is problem in fact. And my english is not enough also. Thanks to all who are patient with my grammar and all mistakes in writing :)) 

Anna, if by "have to become Christians" you thought on obligation that person become part of organized religion, in your case JWorg, or in case of other believers, Catholic or Adventist and so on... than i will not be so sure about that. 
Even in case that somebody became member of "only true religion" aka JWorg, that not be assurance for salvation, as you very well quoted Jesus words, “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ ...” so we can come to conclusion that is Gods choice to whom he give "salvation", no matter is person or not part of JWorg.
Yes i have one fine bible example to support my view. Naaman, commander of army, gentile, idol worshiper, get salvation from JHVH without any BUT in spiritual, religious or moral proviso. Only BUT was about in what river to take a bath. After that Naaman recognize JHVH as  "only God" but there is no report he became "proselyte", worshiper of JHVH, left his family or nation or position as commander. He has some conscious dilemmas, it is explained in  5:18, but even that this was not problem for JHVH that Naaman make worship to idols. JHVH never, according to Bible reports, say something against Naaman or give any conclusion about that matter. So, he gave freedom to us to made some conclusion :)))))   
 
  He have hard job  

Thanks for your ability to notice, to see, to understand and have good, accurate perception on WT GB manipulation they doing  with the "help" of Bible, Jesus and JHVH. They made one explanation that suites to them for reason of "daily politics theme in regard to so called apostates"  with two confusing verses that belong to so different time events and reasons of why it was told to Israel.
In fact GB put JHVH and Jesus on opposite camps. Jesus said, who see me see father... i am not telling nothing that my father not telling...and similar". But here, for need to give lesson to JW members, WT GB followers, they said how OT words have more power than NT words. Despite the fact how that same JHVH prophesied that he will made New Law in Heart of people not on stone or paper. But no, GB stick with OT "stone heart" and not on NT "spirit heart" that is not bond to written law, regulations, paragraphs, rules ....... from human. 
You point very well on GB discrepancy. I will continue with comments on this part from WT magazine paragraph; .... "Jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but God's Word also says to "hate what is bad." When a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up..."
1 )Jesus IS GOD'S WORD :))) so this word BUT have no place in  GB interpretation. 
2) Second, they dare to put themselves as God. God is able to see in deep things of "heart and kidneys" , but here GB said that they know what is with person and made final judgement about "bad is ingrained" in person's heart with no hope to change. This is blasphemy, GB put themselves in Judge Throne and suggest that all average JW member have also the same right and power to analysed other people heart and make own judgement what would be future of that person. Idiotic premise. 
Tragedy and comedy in one     
 

It is very nice that you put two translations of same verse, perhaps it will be good to use more of it. Because NWT have some err. 
it is not the same when NWT say - "obey your leaders" but Jesus said one is your leader, (so this is very big err in NWT), and if we hear "have confidence" NIV, but in all that one thing is more important - elders have to earn that trust from the people.
BUT my prime reason to respond on your comment above was this: It is not matter if  "one brings division into the church", in fact it is good to put on test and fire human doctrines, AND JESUS SUPPORT THAT TOO. YOU ASK HOW? READ THE BIBLE PLEASE. JESUS SAID: 
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
    a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36     a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. – Jesus (Matthew 10:34-38)
According to this i am afraid that you are not familiar with "bible  principles, prophesies, teachings and many more". :))))

 

As about me - i have no hate speech, just Critical Thoughts and Reasoning    

BUT Jesus promised "the Holy Spirit", Comforter until He come again. But perhaps WT GB got idea how Jesus was come in 1914 Holy Spirit is not need to operate and guide people at all, or specifically Christians or more specifically FDS aka GB. So, in that line of logic it is normal that FDS aka GB are not inspired because Holy Spirit are out of job from 1914. And by same logic "food can not be perfect"  because source of that "food" is not Spirit but imperfect human. :))))))))) At the end GB not lie about who, what, which "spirit"  guide them and w,w,w not.  

Many thanks again, to @James Thomas Rook Jr. for showing such tolerance.  
You are right, Zion is the heavenly “New Jerusalem”, but maybe you didn’t read what the Watchtower stated – about Zion being the organization?  How have I twisted Watchtower’s own words?   Wt. 15/7/15  pp. 7-11
Yes, I am doing that right now, but not counting my time.  Are you? I believe I have been all over the public “map”, called “Jehovah’s Witnesses”.  Rev 11:1-3
Shouldn’t a good “witness” be one that testifies in truth?  What good is “preaching” if it is laced with lies?  If the Catholics came to your door preaching the trinity, how would you feel? Would you believe them? 
If, while in your “preaching work”, you meet the same person at the door that initially received the Awake! magazine on 1975* from your very hands, ten years prior; how do you think THEY would feel about your “preaching work” and the “spiritually nourishing food” you pass on from the “faithful slave”?  Do you expect them to receive you warmly?  Should they overlook a false prophesy as JWs are cajoled into doing, convincing you to believe it is right with God?  Jer 5:31; 12:6; Rom 16:18
Yes, would you like me to give you a link?  It is called the anointed Body of Christ – those anointed who have been spiritually “killed” – disfellowshipped -  for their testimony of Christ, not for an organization.  There are many brethren who have joined them.   Luke 17:31-17; Rev 12:6
Yes, in truth, not under the guise that it was “born”in 1914, only to be followed by “birth pangs”.  Matt 24:8  Truly, an unnatural phenomena.
I don’t believe you have read much that I have written here, which will give you more information on these questions. 
One thing I don’t do is accept men and their rules who “guide” the sheep by their rulebook, and not the Bible.
 “If you died with Christ to the elements of this world, why do you live as if you still belonged to the world? Why do you submit to regulations:  “Don’t handle, don’t taste, don’t touch”?  All these regulations refer to what is destined to perish by being used up; they are human commands and doctrines. 23 Although these have a reputation for wisdom by promoting self-made religion, false humility, and severe treatment of the body, they are not of any value in curbing self-indulgence.”  Col 2:20-23
They are self-serving; people take pride in a title they receive by following men’s regulations; and with it, are special privileges given them.  This is the basis of the Watchtower’s religion. 
Like this one?  “Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation”  Wt 81/11/15
Or, is it this one?  “We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry – be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization.”  Wt. 90/11/1
 
Have you ever wondered  why Jesus told his disciples not to go from “house to house”, a command by Jesus which the Watchtower completely ignores? Luke 10:7 The soldiers of Herod were bent on killing the promised seed, the “firstborn”, Jesus Christ; the most efficient way was go “house to house” killing all the firstborn males, whomever they were.  Matt 2:16-18    
Where are the “firstfruits”/anointed ones and many others now found, but in the organization?  How did they get there and why are they there? Gal 3:29,26 They were introduced to a taste of truth, which lead to their “captivity” to lies.  Rev 12:17; Matt 2:18; Rev 13:7; 11:7; 6:9-11; Rev 13:10 Jesus well knew of this “delusion” that would come upon God’s people. 2 Thess 2:1-12
Because of their choice to leave Christ and follow an idol, God allows it to happen to his “royal priesthood” and any others who fall for it.  It becomes their period of tribulation and refinement.  Rev 2:14; 3:18
In both Matt 10 and Mark 13, Jesus highlights the warnings he gave to his disciples.  Remember, his disciples are to preach to all the nations of Israel – God’s people. 
“I came to the lost sheep of Israel”
 Today’s “Israel” are the anointed ones.
 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.  But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues.”  Matt 10:16,17
And Jesus, answering them, began to say: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 6 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many.
“The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the Governing Body, they are in fact following their leader, Christ.  Wt 9/15/2010” 
 "You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles". Matt 10:18
“But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them”  Mark 13:9
Councils, governors, kings, synagogues, wolves.  The “Governing Body”, who, as anointed ones are “kings”, (1 Cor 4:8) symbolically “scourge” other anointed for their “testimony” of Christ. Matt 24:48-51This testimony is given to all “Gentiles” in the congregations/synagogues, and it is the “Gentile” “council” who spiritually “kills” them for doing so. Rev 2:9; 13:15; 11:7; Matt 24:15; Rev 11:1,2  Many anointed ones, as well as other JWs,  have written letters to the congregations; exposing their lies and giving their full testimony – of Christ, whom they come to realize, is their only Head. 
Matt 10:21,22; Mark 13:12,13 clearly show fulfillment when one is disfellowshipped and considered “dead”; all for Christ’s sake.  They are hated, and called apostates; losing their families – for the name of Jesus.  Matt 5:10,11; John 15:18-21
If you were to withdraw your eyes away from Satan’s world and look at the spiritual war and “earthquakes” between “nations” and “kingdoms” that involves the anointed, as they battle for either truth or lies; you would realize the Great Tribulation is upon us.  Mark 13:24,25; Amos 9:9;Haggai 2:6,9; Heb 12:26-28; 2 Tim 2:3,4; 2 Cor 10:4,5
“When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”  Matt 10:23
This isn’t speaking of the literal nation of Israel, is it. Rev 7:4;21:12  
Jesus brought “truth” to God’s people, as well as the cry to repent from their sins.  The “two witnesses” (meaning “truth”) are those Jesus sends to the “holy people” during the time of the end, declaring they are to “come out of her, my people”.  Rev 18:4-8; Zech chapter 4; Rev 11:1-7; (1 Cor 3:16,17)
This inspection and cleansing of God’s entire Temple/priesthood (1 Pet 2:5,9,10) certainly didn’t meet Christ’s approval during the years of1914-1919, as the Watchtower says.  It is rather blatantly clear as to why.   They were…
-         Preaching that the “battle of the great day of God Almighty” (Rev. 16:14), would end in A.D. 1915
-         Or that the “1000 years of Christ’s reign began in 1873
-         That in 1918 God would destroy all churches
-         That in 1925, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old” would return to human form
-          preparing for the world to end in 1925
Although, they will have you believe Christ was happy with all of this.   (w14 11/15 pp. 28-30)  There were lies in their mouths then; and now, as they do their best to cover them over. Deut 18:20; Mal 3:1-3; 2 Pet 3:14; Rev 21:25-27
“For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.”  Matt 10:26b
The “good news” is the restoration of “Jacob” – spiritual “Israel” -  which has its fulfillment OUTSIDE of the Watchtower Idol.  Isa 44:22; 48:20
*Awake!  Is it Later Than You Think?  Is Time Running Out for This Generation?  What will the 1970’s Bring?  October 8, 1968
 

Dark, anti-religious poetry does not make one a Satanist. I think it was best explained in a couple of short reviews for a book currently for sale on Am-a-zon called, "Was Karl Marx a Satanist?"
Marx was an atheist Jew. He neither believed in the Christian conception of Satan, nor the Anton LeVay concept of Satan. The author offers no evidence, confusing mere hostility toward religion with Satanism, and offers some syntax-related conspiracy theories. "This sad book deosn't have any literary qualities whatsoever. This is pure Anti-semetic drivel full of ultra christian rhetoric from the extreme right. Marx was a philosopher and an idealist, this book doesnt examine him in anyway whatseoever it just descends into religious rants." By the way, you have got to be the most interesting person to read on this forum and I always enjoy your politically-oriented comments. You do not come at the world's issues with the typical Eurocentric myopia that drives so many others (and which usually drives Adventist-style prophetic explanations, for that matter). Naturally, I disagree with a lot of what you say, too, but this doesn't much change the overall value of hearing your opinion on things.

Do the "other religions destroy whole families to chastise one errant congregant?
Do the other religions require children to commit ritual medical suicide?
Do other religions have their congregants IN A LIFE BOAT with so many patches it looks covered in post-it-notes?
Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks for pointing that out, I never noticed! I wonder why the artist considered it inappropriate to include underarm hair.....must be an American thing....

From the picture above, it appears Jesus shaved his arm pits.

I found the article, and read several of the other ones, too. (At least in a Google Translation from Italian to English.) I thought that most of your articles were very clear, and I appreciate that you are asking good questions about the many gaps and inconsistencies in our current explanations. Since Daniel is a book that many of us have just recently been reading in our Bible reading schedules, I think a separate topic would be great and timely. It would have to be under "Controversial Posts" because, of course, even the potential existence of gaps and inconsistencies is something that many of us must deny.
I have not yet come up with a good explanation that resolves all the gaps, although, the vast majority of them are automatically resolved by just accepting certain verses at face value, instead of imposing unlikely interpretations of them. Still, prophecy in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation are some of the most intriguing and I have not considered any of my digging to be conclusive. I can tell you have put a lot of thought and time into understanding them through scriptural references. I must tell you right from the start that my approach is similar, in always using other scriptures to find explanations, or just admit that we won't know if no specific scriptural support can be found. Still, even though you apparently think in the same terms, I can tell that we will still disagree on most of our current opinions. Of course, different opinions are just fine with me . . . so I still think a further discussion is worth the while.  

For some reason that I do not understand (is it my imagination?) I seem to rankle you even more than I do the nefarious JTR, who simply prepares another cartoon -  though I would have it the other way around. I consistently find myself agreeing with almost everything you say, and at times being corrected by you.
Some things, though, can be taken too far. Though I agree in some measure with 
it could also be pointed out the king of the south these days bombs more countries than the king of the north. Money, in this instance, powers the south to manufacture weapons as much or more as the north. Publicly traded arms makers must report quarterly - and those quarterly reports better look good, or hordes of stockholders threaten to abandon ship and go look for 'greener' pastures. Corporations reach a point where they must create their own market, and not just wait for the market to come to them, as a private company might do. Hence, the many Washington lobbyists who ever push the perception that there are many many enemies who must be kept in check by weapons, which, as it turns out, can be supplied by the outfit that they represent.
It is not just the king of the north who loves weapons.

Those famous words about god's impartiality = rain and sun to all people. It is only a basic illustration that shows how God's impartiality is unlimited. And he does not look at race, social status, ...... and affiliation with religion. Why you skip religion???? Did not Jesus show impartiality in every way to "gentiles" to people of other religion?? How can you talk about impartiality of God and then you use word BUT??? If you are impartial then you can not be that with But. "I will help you but...I will love you but...I will take care of you but....I will give my life for you but.......Anna can you not see nonsense?  There is no impartiality if you set the condition, proviso, stipulation. Story about Samaritan going further in lightening what mean impartiality, to love people of other religion, nation, to showing compassion, doing good for stranger from you not expecting nothing in return. With other words, without any BUT. 
You rely too much on old patterns. You forget that Jesus changed all this. He brought completely different things. And you want to go back to what He left. He does not seek an organization. Jesus collects his flock. His flock is not in the church, in the building. His flock is not in organized religion. His instructions are not listed in the law, in the Charter of WT corporation or in Charter of every JW congregation, in the books, and in the journals and magazines. His "law", his spirit and love He writing directly in people's heart, not looking who is who. And when He touched person, "repentance", and not only repentance, will occur in that special, unique moment of very soul, in the time of silence or in a time of scream, in a time of tears or in a time of empties. And will change us. In this or that direction.  

I am very sure how similar or the same view as you expressed with this sentence many other people have too. If "spiritual education that JW received in WTis the best in the World, than it would be expected, i would expected, higher level of contemplation and "spiritual maturity", and not so simplified "not my business" attitude.
If you David, are one of JW then by WT and Bible teaching in NT you have to be interest in talking to people of opposite view and "argue" or as WT Reasoning book in it title have word , you need to "reasoning" with them and to help them and to rescue them from false religion and lies they think are true, from satan philosophy and wrong expectations of future. If you are not JW, receive my apologize. But nevertheless, are you or not JW, it is good for soul to develop more compassion and interest in people, at least, to have better understand of people behaviour :)))
Here you need to have attitude "not my business". Because it is JHVH business to open people's mind and heart and NOT YOURS  it is of God's concern how people would interpret events in their lives. As it also case with JW members who interpret events in the way that suits to them. :))))))))  with help of GB.
Is this really as far as you can go in mediate about God's impartiality??????????    
Are you kidding me David? WT publications are full of experience about "worldly" people who prayed to "GOD" not knowing his name, not say "in Jesus name, amen", and not knowing nothing about "harmony in principles and plan", and Bible have examples too about people who prayed to God and He listen to them and helped them, despite how  they were "Gentiles". Ohhh man, if this "requirements", formalities which man has to satisfy before God in order that God could hear him, than all people who are not praying by JW model will never be heard by God, and they have never been heard in the past. Unbelievable :))))))))))))  

I'm sorry, but I think that the view JW members has on these and similar events is under the influence of GB leadership and their interpretation of events to the public with help of JWTV and publications.
JW members are very much constrained by their own lives in the WT Corporation and do not see how other people suffer because of religious beliefs too, whether they are Christians or "Gentiles". Bible stating - "God is impartial!!" - what does it mean for those who are not JW ??? Does JHVH are insensitive for suffering of those people, but only give, pay attention for JW prayers and their letters to Russia? If your Father is impartial, so you as JW member need to pray and for suffers that have Baptists, Catholics, Adventists, Hinduists ....because with such heart and mind and attitude you will imitate Father and Son, as in story of Samaritan. So please start to write letters also for people of other confessions as proof of impartiality :))))   
When I was in jail for "neutrality" as JW, there was also two Adventist boys and two Nazarene boys, for the same issue . Two Adventist boy has been beaten by jail guards because they refused, for the reason of faith of course,  to clean the floors at Saturday, because Saturday is day not for working but for spiritual matters, things. Can they be "wise in front of unbelievers" or those suffer was God's will for them? Or God just allowed their suffer? Because, they were convinced, suffer  is for Jesus name?!  How you as JW member would "judge" their faith and their persistent to not obey secular authorities? Do you think of them as fanatics, as  misdirected zeal?? I am quite sure that JW would say how their faith and believes are not worthy and how Jesus not asking them that and how they wrongly interpret Bible, how their doctrine are err.
Please look in the own mirror, and you will see how "their" face  and "your" face look the same at the end of the day .....or in the morning.:))))))  

How other people act regarding their confession of faith is their business. I work with some folks who insist that working on Sunday is a sin and they refuse to allow company employees (since they own the company) to work on Sunday. Though I disagree with their decision it is not really for me to argue with them about it. They have principles that they are passionate about and I have mine. 
As far as prayer is concerned, What do you suggest I pray for? If I pray for Jehovah to lessen their suffering and he does so, who gets the recognition. They will think that they were alleviated from their suffering because of their (Baptists, Catholics, Adventists, Hindustanis) faith and will not see that Jehovah is the true God. Jehovah is not partial in that he allows the rain to fall on the sinner and righteous one. He does not withhold what is good from us, but he does allow the outworking of events based upon our decisions. 
We had a great public talk yesterday dealing with the issue of "What Prayers Does Jehovah Answer?" Basically, (1) Jehovah answers prayers directed to him (2) offered through his son (3) petition is in harmony with his principles or plan.