Srecko Sostar

Yes, “we” do know.
They have not.

If an abundance of physical assets, real estate, media centers, branch offices, and kingdom halls is evidence of God’s kingdom, the Catholic Church has 100 and more times as much.
With that flawed logic it’s quite clear that the Catholic Church is the true religion.

"The scores of branch office buildings, hundreds of Assembly Halls, and tens of thousands of Kingdom Halls around the world provide tangible proof that God’s Kingdom is real and is now ruling." - https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/gods-kingdom/support/building-work-honors-jehovah/
This same words was told by GB Helper Alex Reinmueller on JW TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzgfCMcOhM4&feature=em-uploademail  in 32:31 of this video.
Where in Bible and in Jesus' words you can find confirmation how construction program and buildings will be tangible proof about God's Kingdom reality on Earth?
Does Watchtower's worldwide possession of  properties, real estate (buildings) is part of "sign" of the Last Days ?
 
 

A simple comment “ they were the signers of the letters I posted” would have been sufficient, and informative and simple.

I am sure, Fausto, that the Thessalonians shared your opinions about everything and that the Bereans, like myself, would have hounded you to prove every statement.

Heck … i even remember Compuserve.

By the way, I fully agree with the letter you provided … it was a SNAFU of normal proportions.
I had copies of this 20 years ago.
”Stuff Happens”
The same screw-ups we make as individuals, the Society also makes.
To think otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

I am not even trying to persuade you, el Fausto, much less the public.
I know absolutely nothing about you except your blind agenda, and that you switch screen names about once every two months in a continuously failed attempt to hide your identity.
I have no proof you are a man or woman because your sentence style is that of a programmed device.
What you perceive as ad hominem attacks on you is actually me destroying tor logic, reasoning, and pseudo “facts”, and agenda driven support of the indefensible.
With your own words you destroy your own credibility. All I do is separate your Disneyland view of the Universe from what can actually be proven.
I used to be a Private Investigator and was good at it. Being able to separate fact from fiction is a valuable skill that lends itself to many areas of life … including Theology, where half only want to sit under a waterfall of free money.
My instinctual wild-ass guess is that you are are, or blindly support that philosophy.
…. as you have shown literally dozens of times by whatever screen name by choking when pressed for proof of your assertions and unable to produce anything except mountains of irrelevant and deliberately  diversionary claptrap.
I argue with you for one reason only. 
It’s fun to prove you wrong.
Look at how much work it was to get you to produce that Nov. 1, 2001 letter.
As your adversary I can attest to that it is proof good enough for most suppositions.
 
 

As always,Fausto, when you fail at proving your agenda driven revisionist historical points, you rely on trying to accuse “apostates”, attempting to divert your failure to prove your point or points with evidence … with ad hominem attacks.
As C. T. Russel correctly stated in the very first issue of the Watchtower, “If Satan himself tells you the Truth, it is still the truth…” (paraphrased).
HE ws considered to be the premiere “apostate” of his day.
So … the form you posted … where is the last page, the signature page?
And from when to when was this particular form used?
And WHEN AND WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FORM?
 

Responding to "public accusations", WTJWorg claims that it had to apply as an NGO for access to the UN Library. However, the UN document shows that you do not have to be an NGO to get a Library pass.
 

Watchtower komentira NGO status_ChairmansCommitteeletter 2001.docx

…. all those words, and you did not produce the letter that YOU REFERENCED that would have proved you are not just a bloviating deceptive deluded faker.
Srecko Sostar proved his case with hard evidence.
You did not.
 

Paradox. The Israelites of old liked to occasionally seek help from Baal even though they primarily worshiped YHVH.
How can and should information from UN statistics become important for the theology and strengthening of the faith of followers and those who will become followers?
Yes, maybe there is nothing secret about being an NGO, but why was it hidden from the membership? Or to turn the question around; Why wasn't it proudly announced that WTJWorg was a member of the Library and that the supremacy of YHVH over Baal was thereby demonstrated?

So, Fausto, why don’t YOU supply the “first letter”, and tell us what’s on it and on the basis of THAT LETTER, why the others “lack significant meaning” ?
Ontherwise your protest has NO meaning!

Some commentators lead us to conclude, after showing some historical incidents or accidents in WTJWorg;
-That every good thing that happens to JWs is due to God's blessing and guidance.
-On the other hand, that every bad thing that happens to JWs is a consequence of GB intellect and their overpowering the influence of HS.
Logical right? :))

Some commentators lead us to conclude, after showing some historical incidents or accidents in WTJWorg;
-That every good thing that happens to JWs is due to God's blessing and guidance.
-On the other hand, that every bad thing that happens to JWs is a consequence of GB intellect and their overpowering the influence of HS.
Logical right? :))

nawwwww
You can have peace, or you can have Freedom.
Don’t ever count on having both at the same time.

God’s will is laid out in the Bible, read in context.
Anything that PRESUMES to go beyond that is just for the money.
 

The problem is, E.T., that there are people that will consider straight facts, such as the “Malawi Incidents”, accurately reported but which are an embarrassing strategic SNAFU of short sightedness, as a “distortion of the facts”.
There are others, such as myself, that believe that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the best bet Civilization and individuals can find, but recognize fully that the Leadership on Earth are as capable of colossal screw-ups and errors of judgement as individual people everywhere are capable of.  
“Jehovah of Armies” in the past knew that many strong, good and capable men would die in battle fighting for his interests, when he could have with a casual thought destroyed his enemies with no casualties on his side.
If you were in the United States Marines, and believed in the men an the mission, over time you would realize that many many men die and are forever wounded because of your Officer’s mistakes, bad judgement, personality quirks, greed and political pressure.
You may be justly or unjustly persecuted by these same Officers, perhaps even chastised onto death.…. that’s what the job entails.
Same thing with Jehovah’s People today.
That does NOT mean    you should pretend things that really happened, and bad policies never existed. Or do not exist now.
Reality is what it is.
Get used to it. 
The Universe is not impressed by many words, skillfully crafted.
Unfortunately …. the inexperienced are.
…… Pesky Humans!
 
 

I love my friend Pudgy, but the search for Tony and it's results, etc...IMO the guy suffers from ptsd and being forced to be a narcissist and I believe he was sharing his personal outlook....so he was given the corporate golden parachute. My mother is a 65 year dedicated jw, and even her jw friends are telling her it's time to just accept things the way they are.
I say lets let Tony just live out the rest of his senior life. And quit being distracted from the cult/religion's real  problems...which if you think about it the watchtower like the government will find ways to deflect from the real shit thats going on. Including using  trolls and spammers on this topic thread.

Paradox. The Israelites of old liked to occasionally seek help from Baal even though they primarily worshiped YHVH.
How can and should information from UN statistics become important for the theology and strengthening of the faith of followers and those who will become followers?
Yes, maybe there is nothing secret about being an NGO, but why was it hidden from the membership? Or to turn the question around; Why wasn't it proudly announced that WTJWorg was a member of the Library and that the supremacy of YHVH over Baal was thereby demonstrated?

I don't think I ever saw a Gilead tour letter for a U.N. tour. But the ones I have seen are very similar, and there is nothing in the writing or format of this one that looks odd. It's very much like the other letters that came out of the Gilead office in the 70s and 80s. When I pull out some of my old boxes of papers, I can post an almost identical memo/notice that was given to all Gilead students.

Does this mean that this post from another channel is not a forgery or an exaggeration or a fraud? That the picture and the letter are authentic?
I remember that even in my time (70s) there were controversies and questions about entering the churches of "Babylon the Great". From the fact that "real Christians" have nothing to look for there, and especially not to listen to their sermons, to the fact that it is just a visit to artistic and historical monuments and that it has no significance. Although, on the other hand, JWs run away from everything that has "pagan origins". It means somewhat contradictory and uneven thinking.