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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from boyle in A CIRCUIT OVERSEER STATES, "YOUR FAITH IS GARBAGE AND NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN"   
    I agree that we (as listeners of this video) are in position to accept or reject this testimony in full or partially. .....BUT..... having knowledge of "the other side" (CO, elders) it would not be surprising that some of them are so sure in own authority and spirituality, self-righteousness to such measure/level in which some of them would dare to make proclamation how someone's faith is "garbage". Of, course we don't know what looks (what was looked) like relationship between CO and this man before this KH parking lot conversation.   
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to John 12.24to28 in The state subsidy is denied to WTJWorg in Norway   
    Summary of witness testifying in Norway court case, Jan Frode Nilsen:
     
    (some is in Norwegian language)
     
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0ksW8dB7GMnj14AYW1jsxbmPzRaMbpgAGWPw8VC4Dn9MHDr4P7LdwaEUDZpBxuBJSl&id=578591856
     
    https://twitter.com/jfnilsen?t=nLkjYsFqrrXZY1PaE6pOgg&s=09
     
    https://avoidjw.org/news/jan-frode-nilsen-s-testimony/
     
    (Just a note, I do not necessarily agree with all the stands taken by publishers of any of the above mentioned websites, but I do pray for Jan and I think he is very brave. May Jehovah continue to bless him for being willing to go through the hellish situation of being drilled by a Watchtower lawyer in order to bear witness to the truth. "Jehovah's Witnesses" as an organization have brought great reproach on Jehovah's holy name. Jehovah will cleanse His Name People for the sake of His Holy Name and regather all the little hurt sheep. May Jehovah be praised.)
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to John 12.24to28 in Gerrit Lösch   
    It doesn't matter to me what the appellate court said. It matters to me what Gerritt Losch said.
     
    There is a case of abuse, and a man who is viewed as one of the chief shepherds in the organization with the potential to do so much good by saying, "I'm sorry that happened to you" to Jose Lopez, instead comes and basically says "I have nothing to do with anything that happens in the organization".
     
    Jesus was willing to go to court and get treated insolently. Jesus didn't say "I'm not God's Son," or "I'm not a king" just to get out of it.
     
    If Gerrit Losch cannot stand up tall and take the heat now under these circumstances, how is he going to stand up during more difficult circumstances? If he cannot say, "I do represent Jehovah's Witnesses, yes, I am a member of the governing body and we have been dictating policy for the congregations for quite some time now" (which is what the court was really looking for, not some technicality to wiggle out of responsibility) then how is he going to man up when we are in the great tribulation?
     
    "The hired man, who is not a shepherd and to whom the sheep do not belong, sees the wolf coming and abandons the sheep and flees—and the wolf snatches them and scatters them—  because he is a hired man and does not care for the sheep."
     
    Gerrit Losch showed how he really feels about the sheep. That man is not a shepherd. He is an imposter. Just like the rest of those currently taking the lead at Bethel. "Lawless ones" sitting in the house of God claiming to be gods. Hopefully they repent someday.
     
    Jesus is coming to clean the house. He will remove all the fake shepherds. Praise Jehovah.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Moise Racette in Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Money From Norwegian Gambling Authority   
    From 10:25. AM statement regarding not allowing "secular authorities" to dictate what JWs will believe.
    JWs believe and stop believing the doctrines that the GB and religious authority within the WT company determines. Countless beliefs have changed within the JW faith. AM is a manager and he has to claim that his company is right and everyone else is wrong.
    I suspect that the religious changes in the WT happened due to various reasons and influences. The changes that occurred in the doctrines and subtleties of the doctrines have nothing to do with the "light from above", but with the mundane changes in the corporation itself and the global events of the society in which we live (or in which people lived before us or, more precisely for this issue, since the existence of WTBTS).
    The WTJWorg's claim to be heirs to the true faith (true worship) going back to or from Abel is an unnecessary, useless actually, comparison. Because history confirms (the one recorded in the Bible and in other historical records), how doctrinally and formally, this form of (true) worship has been changed throughout all these centuries.
    GB leaders have "no choice". They will change some doctrine one way or another. Sooner or later.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Money From Norwegian Gambling Authority   
    From 10:25. AM statement regarding not allowing "secular authorities" to dictate what JWs will believe.
    JWs believe and stop believing the doctrines that the GB and religious authority within the WT company determines. Countless beliefs have changed within the JW faith. AM is a manager and he has to claim that his company is right and everyone else is wrong.
    I suspect that the religious changes in the WT happened due to various reasons and influences. The changes that occurred in the doctrines and subtleties of the doctrines have nothing to do with the "light from above", but with the mundane changes in the corporation itself and the global events of the society in which we live (or in which people lived before us or, more precisely for this issue, since the existence of WTBTS).
    The WTJWorg's claim to be heirs to the true faith (true worship) going back to or from Abel is an unnecessary, useless actually, comparison. Because history confirms (the one recorded in the Bible and in other historical records), how doctrinally and formally, this form of (true) worship has been changed throughout all these centuries.
    GB leaders have "no choice". They will change some doctrine one way or another. Sooner or later.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Mic Drop in Someone asked Bill Gates   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!   
    I think he is still inventing, look at The Clapper, that is genius.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Matthew9969 in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!   
    Coal, oil, gas and other earth treasures were formed due to processes on/in the earth over millions of years. Processes are initiated and caused by God, as many believed, right? Why would God want coal, oil or gas, etc. to exist when it has caused man's interest in exploiting it? With strong consequences we see today.
     Gen 4:22 -  Also, Zilʹlah gave birth to Tuʹbal-cain, who forged every sort of tool of copper and iron.
    The first blacksmith, he came to know about forging from whom? So early after human creation in Eden and in short period of time. 
    Can it be said that God's intention was to create resources to be used for the benefit of mankind, or did their existence have another purpose ... or another way of using them?
    Space bodies, galaxies, etc., are created in violent processes, everything is full of explosions. That's how the planet Earth was created, too, right? Did God stop creating after Adam and Eve? Or is he still creating the Universe? 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!   
    On the bright side, after the big A happens, jw's wont have to be bothered with disposing of all the billions of dead bodies, the animals will have their full for a while, although they might loose their hunting instinct.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!   
    Have you considered how and for what purposes a Lion’s Teeth were specifically designed?

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in RESPECT FOR THE ELDER BODY   
    "In addition, speak positively about Jehovah’s organization and about your brothers and sisters. Do not criticize the elders. What you say about them can determine whether your children will turn to them in times of need." Wt April 2022   I think you will find this video very enlightening about the elder body neglecting children in their time of need. By what is said from the mouths of elders in the reported case of abuse, will hopefully protect other children, from them.   Mark 4:22 - "For nothing is hidden except to be revealed, and nothing concealed except to be brought to light."   Eph 5:12,13 - "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For the things they do in secret are shameful even to mention. But all things being exposed by the light are made visible."   The video brings to light only one side of negligence and abuse committed by the elder body as a whole.   The full spectrum of their destructive abilities enacted over God's holy people, is told here -    WHO ARE THE LOCUSTS?  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in THE LIVING IDOL   
    Leviticus 26:1 -  “‘Do not make idols or SET UP AN IMAGE or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.”
    The Hebrew word here for “image” means - carved idol, stemming from a word meaning to cut, hew into shape.
    Over the life span of the organization, another image has taken shape; ingeniously and  demonically crafted as a Satanic baited trap, to lead the anointed remnant into idolatry.  ( Ps 119:123; Amos 3:5; Jer 5:26; Matt 24:24; 2 Cor 11:14-15; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)
    Two “Beasts” worked together over time to aid in its development; the first one from the “sea” is a conglomerate, and “Gentile” in nature. (Rev 9:1,3-4; Isa 57:20; Dan 7:3; 13:1,2; Rev 2:9) From Satan, it has received power, a throne, and great authority to overcome the holy ones.  (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-2; 13:7)
    The second Beast comes “out of the earth”, with “earth” signifying the people belonging to God, and are kings under Jesus Christ. (Isa 64:8; 1 Pet 2:9,10; 1 Cor 3:9; Rom 2:28,29; Gal 3:29; Rev 1:5; 13:11).
    This second Beast involves a lineage of false prophets/teachers, leading “heads” of the Beast from the sea, who profess to speak truth as Christ’s ambassadors. (Matt 24:24; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Pet 2:1,10,12; Jude 10,11; Rev 2:14; 17:9,10) (John 8:17; 2 Cor 5:20; Rev 13:11; Dan 11:27; Rev 16:13)  
    Leaving their covenant with the Father and Jesus, these false prophets have become spiritual Harlots. (Jer 9:2; Ezek 16:32; 1 Cor 6:15-16; Col 2:18-19; Rev 17:1-2,5) The Beast has received power from the “dragon” to perform great wonders, while exercising all authority of the first beast, to its benefit. (Luke 22:25; Rev 13:12,13)
    “Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to SET UP AN IMAGE in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.”  Rev 13:14
    The Greek word for “image” –  a likeness, profile, representation, resemblance, “be like”. 
    What is the image of the first Beast from the Sea resembling or representing? (Rev 13:1)  What representation does it promote? The organization’s doctrine defines this image as the “likeness” or “representation of the world-wide political system”. They say it is the United Nations.  Yet, if we go back to Leviticus 26, God was warning His people under covenant not to set up an image that must be worshipped. (Deut 11:16; Jer 32:34; Isa 46:5,9; Rev 13:4,15) Many nations of peoples had idols during that time, but God’s focus was on pure worship to be given to Him by His chosen people. He warned them not to adopt idols from other nations.  He told them of the consequences of losing His spiritual protection, reminding His people of the abundance blessings they had received when obedient to His decrees.   (Lev 19:4; 26:14-15,17,20; Exod 23:13; Judges 10:6; Micah 5:13; Rom 1:25)
    So, who is it that must understand and apply the message of Revelation?  The political and religious elements of the world?  Again, it is God’s holy people under covenant. They loosely apply Revelation to themselves only as innocent victims, never as irresponsible in following the commands of Christ. (Rev 3:14-22; 14:9-11)
    In general, JWs already do not get involved in politics or the religions of other nations; therefore, it is inconceivable for them to think they could be led into idolatry by other nations. How then, could it happen among God’s holy people today?  Since the word, “heavenly organization” is used to define heavenly Zion by the Wt, how easy it has been for the false prophets/”harlots” to label their earthly organization, as “Jehovah’s earthly Zion”. This idol has a unique quality that the United Nations organization cannot boast of.  The image of this Beast has been given “breath” by its beastly harlot-false prophets, an inspirational idea to set it apart from all other organizations - religious or political.  (1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:15)  Its perception as “spirit-directed” has become a seemingly powerful, life-giving, or life-threatening image to JWs.  
    There are quotes in the magazines verifying that God’s Holy Zion/New Jerusalem is represented on earth through His spirit-anointed priests within the organization. (wt 02/7/1 pp. 9-14; ip-2 chap. 23 pp. 335-348)  But deceit has come into play. Lies are built up and any truth once taught, has been removed. (Rev 16:13-16) The organization more prominently promotes itself as God’s earthly “Zion”; a counterfeit of the heavenly Zion represented by the faithful anointed. (Dan 8:10-12; Zech 4:7)  (Ps 132:7-9,13-14; Gal 4:26; Heb 12:22;Rev 14:1)
    Its spirit-directed “living” image is represented by the “Gentile” elder body, who rule over God’s Temple priests.
    Do we see any "Beast"... any identity or group, whose image is being imbued with a facade of spirit-authority and power, by a false prophet?
    At John20:21-23, we saw that Jesus gave holy spirit to his anointed chosen ones, bestowing on them a commission to teach truth, and authority over the forgiveness of sin (John20:23; 1Cor.6:2-3; Matt.18:18). 
    But who is it that is actually exercising that authority and power today... even over the anointed Chosen? 
    What image today, by declaration of a prophet, seems "spirit-directed", and as a result, the tangible representatives and enforcers of worship toward that image, can pass the judgment of spiritual life or death...
         (over those who refuse to accept that image as being spirit-directed), 
    ...even over the chosen ones? (Dan.8:11-12,24; 11:33; Luke21:24; Rev.13:10,7; 1Cor.3:16; 2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:36-37,34; Mark13:14)
     Living Idol
     
    Lev 26:1 follows up immediately by saying in verse 2 -
    “‘Observe my Sabbaths and have reverence for my sanctuary. I am the Lord.”
    To have reverence means “to fear, stand in awe of, respect, honor”.  The sanctuary was the earthly dwelling of God’s Spirit at that time. (Exod 25:8) Today, it is within the hearts of the anointed. (1 Cor 3:16,17) Yet the Beast from the Sea has elevated the image of itself as spirit-directed, far above God’s sanctuary in importance, hanging this false teaching over the anointed heads of “living stones”.  (Ezek 44:6-9; Lam 1:10; Zeph 3:4; Isa 63:18; Dan 11:31; Luke 12:10; 1 Pet 2:5)
    The anointed are an obscure group of people in the Wt, whose admission of receiving an anointing is generally disregarded, not believed, or the person claiming to be anointed may be deemed as mentally ill.  Easily, this spiritual nation has been trampled down by a massive, strong “Gentile” elder body, by subduing them with lies. (Joel 2:2-3; Ezek 34:2,4,21)  It is the organization that demands respect and honor, and it is the elders that must be revered and obeyed; signifying that this is the time when “Gentiles” are standing in the holy place where they don’t belong. (Eccl 10:5-7; Mar 13:14) The “man of lawlessness” is another name for the Beast from the Sea.  (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:18)
    The word of harlot-false prophets is a hybrid of teachings that have muddied and poisoned the clear living waters of truth. ( 2 Cor 11:2-4; Rev 8:10-11;17:1,15)  I wondered if a contradiction could be detected in John 1:1, where the NWT bible reads “the Word was a  god”. Was this change inspired solely because of the Trinity doctrine?  Perhaps, yet the Word - “direction”, “guidance”, “instruction”,” protection”, “discipline” from “Jehovah’s organization”; and necessary “obedience” to this Beast/Idol holds greater impact in the mind of a JW, than does the Word of God in Jesus Christ…God’s spokesman (Logos), messenger, beloved Son and reigning King.   (John 8:31; 14:6; Matt 28:18)  The leadership’s teachings which substitute scripture, are “inspired” by the living idol. (Mark 7:6-9; 2 Tim 3:16) 
    We are judged based on the word of God, not those of men. (John 12:48,49)
    Exodus 13:9
    "And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt."

    That symbolic token on the hand and forehead would also signify that God's Law would be remembered...always present in our heart, and then proceed from our mouth. (See Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Luke 6:45) What our heart contained would become evident by our words (Matt.12:33,34,35) and on this basis, we would be judged (Matt.12:37,36).
      This evidence of our heart's spiritual condition, is symbolized by a spiritual identifying mark, on our hands (evident deeds/practices) and forehead (beliefs, moral code, mental disposition, spiritual perspective and perceptions -Eze.9:4). (Deut.6:6,8; Rev.13:16,17)
    Mark of the Beast
     
    Not only spiritually were God’s people marked by His word, but as a physical remembrance they were told,
    “You shall teach them to your children, speaking of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. 20 And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates”.  Deut 11:19-20
    We are all familiar with the organization's literal logo. My son asked one day, “you know how   sometimes nothing is as it seems?”  He had passed one of the Wt. signs posted on the local kingdom hall. In advertising, it is said that the color blue promotes trust, depth, and calmness.  White signifies the idea of cleanliness, so both colors are used frequently by corporations in advertising.   Also, these two “colors of Judah” relating to the early priesthood, adorn the flag of the nation of Israel, which is also called the Flag of Zion.  I can see the organization adopting the colors, for both reasons. 
    He expressed that behind this innocent looking logo which invites the world to explore its “truths”, danger lurks in the form of lies, of hidden child abuse, and slavery to men and their fleshly desires. I told him that it also represents the home of the “man of lawlessness”, and spiritual harlots directing these “drunkards”. (Hab 2:15-16; Matt 24:48-51) I said, the harlot leaders have adulterated the Word of God, and exposed their lust for their idol and its image, represented by the elder body.  After some discussion, he then related his time visiting a very small town in the state of Nevada, servicing computers for his job.  He wasn’t aware of what the “red light district” meant until his workmate pointed out the actual red light positioned above the door of various pubs and buildings in the town. This signifies an open invitation to visit a prostitute.   When he made this connection to the organization’s logo as an open invitation to avail oneself to the Harlot’s wares – the “Word” of her god, I realized that the scripture lingering in the back of my mind during our conversation, describes in blunt terms, the spiritual immoral relationship of the Beast/Harlot from the earth, with her “mountainlike organization” of “Gentiles” that she loves.
    “On a lofty and high mountain
    You have set your bed;
    Even there you went up
    To offer sacrifice.
    8 Also behind the doors and their doorposts
    You have set up your remembrance;
    For you have uncovered yourself to those other than Me,
    And have gone up to them;
    You have enlarged your bed
    And made a covenant with them;
    You have loved their bed,
    Where you saw their nudity.
    And of whom have you been afraid, or feared,
    That you have lied
    And not remembered Me,
    Nor taken it to your heart?
    Is it not because I have held My peace from of old
    That you do not fear Me?
    12 I will declare your righteousness
    And your works,
    For they will not profit you.
    13 When you cry out,
    Let your collection of idols deliver you.
    But the wind will carry them all away,
    A breath will take them.
    But he who puts his trust in Me shall possess the land,
    And shall inherit My holy mountain.”  Isa 57:7-8,11-13
     So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written:
    MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,  
    THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
    AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
    OF THE EARTH.  Rev 17:3-5
    “For all the nations have drunk
    the wine of her sexual immorality,
    which brings wrath.
    The kings of the earth
    have committed sexual immorality with her,
    and the merchants of the earth
    have grown wealthy from her sensuality and excess.
    4 Then I heard another voice from heaven:
    Come out of her, my people,
    so that you will not share in her sins
    or receive any of her plagues.
    5 For her sins are piled upto heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.”  Rev 18:3-5
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    I am convinced that whatever you use to validate your claim; whether it’s scripture or whether you use Wt’s quotes to validate their own belief system, you’ll get a downvote.  You could tell some people here that the sky is blue and the grass is green, but simply because it comes out of the “wrong” mouth, you get a downvote.  They are like three-year-olds that say “no” everything.
    But it’s far worse than that.  They slander with words of emptiness, indicating that they would rather not hear authentic truth. They would rather cover their ears and believe in their confusion, and call you, the condemned one.  (Zech 7:8-12; 2 Thess 2:10)
    Take for instance, the quote below. Will they read it and comprehend it?  Maybe, and then reject it.  Why?  Because it is I who posted it?  Because, they don’t believe that their organization made false predictions...ever?  Because, according to historical facts, it makes them uncomfortable to entertain the thought that their people are not really God’s faithful people, according to the quote?  Because they put the blame on others like their leaders, so they are not responsible for following them?  (Ezek 13:9; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    They won’t “go there”; they can’t process incoming truth, which is called spiritual drunkenness. (Isa 24:20; Job 12:25; John 12:40; Rev 18:3-8) And Satan who provides just enough “truth” to convince them that they are in God's organization, makes sure that they choose the lie, over any small morsels of truth that may be left in Wt’s teachings.  (Rev 16:13-16)
      “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an “end to the world,” even announcing a specific date.  Some have gathered groups of people with them and fled to the hills or withdrawn into their houses waiting for the end.  Yet, nothing happened.  The “end” did not come.  There were guilty of false prophesying.  Why?  What was missing?
    Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophesy.  Missing from such people were God’s truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them.”  Awake, 10/8/1968
    What is this entire magazine’s forecast? 
    “What Will the 70’s Bring?” 
    JWs will not access God's word to help them analyze what it true and what is false.  They listen instead, to the very leaders who have led them astray with doctrine of men, time after time after time.  
    And they love it that way.  It's comfortable. (1 Thess 5:3)  They see the results of their obedience to men, by progression in status with the organization, or by their remaining in "good standing" with fellow believers. Those are immediate blessings of this life; far more important than the life to come.  (2 Cor 11:13-15,19,20)
    "The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?"  Jer 5:31
     
     
    How to Identify True Prophets
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Is that your personal conclusion? It is based on what?
    I don’t remember your official literature giving such a description as you used it.
    So far, WTJWorg has been talking about political forces that will attack JW. Exclusively about political forces that are within the UN organization.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Strange conclusion. The WTJWorg literature announces that you will be attacked by a "coalition of the nations" and not by "apostates".  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Your question in this form cannot be a counter-argument, but only an attempt to obstruct a reality that is ruthless towards WTJWorg. And that reality was created by GB and their scholars.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Your question in this form cannot be a counter-argument, but only an attempt to obstruct a reality that is ruthless towards WTJWorg. And that reality was created by GB and their scholars.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    JWs don't seem to get any persecution here in the UK. But then JWs are not God's people. People here in the UK have just learned to ignore the false predictions of the JWs. Therefore JWs have brought shame on YHWH and Yeshua. 
    If any religion gets trouble for hiding Child Sexual Abuse wthin their organsation, that is not persecution, it is well deserved conflict and questioning. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Ex-JWs are very different individuals. From activists to completely passive individuals. Some have become atheists or agnostics. They, all observed together, are not organized. Thus, as such, they could hardly be considered a united and organized "coalition" operating independently or under the auspices of an established religion or "Babylon the Great".
    Any organized religion, WTJWorg is certainly an organized organization, has a higher chance of becoming an “Organized Apostate Society” than some individuals.
    This is proved both by the examples of the Old Israeli Assembly and by the example of the First Christian Assembly. Both became Apostate Religions.
    So you really have nothing to brag about, nor to assign such “titles” to others.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    According to WTJWorg interpretations "false religion": 
    The Bible’s answer
     Babylon the Great, described in the book of Revelation, is the world’s collective body of false religions, which God rejects. * (Revelation 14:8; 17:5; 18:21) Although those religions differ in many respects, in one way or another they all lead people away from the worship of the true God, Jehovah.—Deuteronomy 4:35. ............ Babylon the Great is a religious entity, not a political or commercial one. - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
    Also:
    False religion still continued to flourish and function, as it had done in ancient Babylon, but in relation to Jehovah’s Witnesses, Babylon the Great had fallen in 1919. They were free from Babylonish restraint! - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1989320
    Two things are obvious from your publications. Religion, the "world's collective body", has nothing to do with political forces. Religion is subordinate to the UN and the "coalition of nations". According to your interpretation, JWs are beyond any spiritual or even literal reach of the wrong religion.  If the “collective religious body” has no power over you, then how could these ex-JWs have any role in “attacking” the JW ??
    Maybe it would be good to ask the authors of your publications what is the meaning of the words they wrote? Your victories in the courts of freedom of action speak in favor of the fact that “wrong religion” could never stop you. "False religion", or "apostates", does not have an armed army that will "surround" you in some future, alleged, attack ... at least that's how your video dramas at congresses and pictures in magazines are shown.
    Wordplay? Perhaps that is coming from WTJWorg, don't you think?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Is that your personal conclusion? It is based on what?
    I don’t remember your official literature giving such a description as you used it.
    So far, WTJWorg has been talking about political forces that will attack JW. Exclusively about political forces that are within the UN organization.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Ex-JWs are very different individuals. From activists to completely passive individuals. Some have become atheists or agnostics. They, all observed together, are not organized. Thus, as such, they could hardly be considered a united and organized "coalition" operating independently or under the auspices of an established religion or "Babylon the Great".
    Any organized religion, WTJWorg is certainly an organized organization, has a higher chance of becoming an “Organized Apostate Society” than some individuals.
    This is proved both by the examples of the Old Israeli Assembly and by the example of the First Christian Assembly. Both became Apostate Religions.
    So you really have nothing to brag about, nor to assign such “titles” to others.  
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    According to WTJWorg interpretations "false religion": 
    The Bible’s answer
     Babylon the Great, described in the book of Revelation, is the world’s collective body of false religions, which God rejects. * (Revelation 14:8; 17:5; 18:21) Although those religions differ in many respects, in one way or another they all lead people away from the worship of the true God, Jehovah.—Deuteronomy 4:35. ............ Babylon the Great is a religious entity, not a political or commercial one. - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
    Also:
    False religion still continued to flourish and function, as it had done in ancient Babylon, but in relation to Jehovah’s Witnesses, Babylon the Great had fallen in 1919. They were free from Babylonish restraint! - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1989320
    Two things are obvious from your publications. Religion, the "world's collective body", has nothing to do with political forces. Religion is subordinate to the UN and the "coalition of nations". According to your interpretation, JWs are beyond any spiritual or even literal reach of the wrong religion.  If the “collective religious body” has no power over you, then how could these ex-JWs have any role in “attacking” the JW ??
    Maybe it would be good to ask the authors of your publications what is the meaning of the words they wrote? Your victories in the courts of freedom of action speak in favor of the fact that “wrong religion” could never stop you. "False religion", or "apostates", does not have an armed army that will "surround" you in some future, alleged, attack ... at least that's how your video dramas at congresses and pictures in magazines are shown.
    Wordplay? Perhaps that is coming from WTJWorg, don't you think?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Well the JW org / Watchtower teachings are not truth thats for sure and their teachings have changed many times since the 1960's. So if a person believed what they learnt from the Watchtower in the 1960's they would need to reject it now according to the Watchtower teachings now. 
    How many teachings from the Watchtower have you had to reject from your first being a JW until now ? 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Posts moved from a recent topic about a J.F.Rutherford book   
    Strange conclusion. The WTJWorg literature announces that you will be attacked by a "coalition of the nations" and not by "apostates".  
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