Srecko Sostar

Allen sir,  I cannot be submissive to an earthly husband I no longer have.   Christ only, is my spiritual head, even when my husband was alive.  He never was my spiritual head, only my fleshly head.  But we worked together equally, with equal respect for one another.  "Headship" should be based on love, just as the scriptures in Ephesians 5:22-29 indicate.    

I thought it (this verse) was about if you wanted to jump from 100 meters and tell God, now save me if you're powerful.
It seems to me that this could be related to the idea that "God allows evil". If he allows it to happen everywhere and towards everyone and from everyone then it might be clear to you why caution is in place. 
 
 

Reading is the action or skill of reading written or printed matter silently or aloud, moreover, an occasion at which poetry or other pieces of literature are read aloud to an audience. Something of which the Bible has.
The Bible is clear as seen in the verse below of which is in the Old and New Law
Joshua 1:8 - This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.
If one adheres to God's Word, we are not only to pray, to preach the gospel, but we must read the Word also. The same way you consume food and water daily, likewise we do the same when it comes to the Holy Book itself. Not only we read, but we meditate of it, observe it, so much so it can be equated to something like that of Shema Yisreal of which Jesus and the Jews adhered to in their youth into adulthood. Some can read one or a few verses, others, a few chapters, some several chapters in the day, etc. Be it a single verse to read, meditate and observe vs several chapters, you take in the daily bread of which the Lord provides. People also make time and or find time to do so, to others before bed and or as soon as they wake up, some even have the alternative of audio, but still, you have to pay attention to observe what you are hearing. Do follow God and apply his examples, likewise with the Christ and his followers, we must do this, and in doing so, we build faith, in doing so, we pave a path for salvation, as is on top of that it is understanding, comprehension, and context.
The Mainstream teaches simply to accept Christ and that is it, suddenly you are saved, but it is more than that.
As for the latter remark, the evidence can be seen in nearly all Biblical discussions, even the ones of which when it is Bible based only, you wanted to bring in the Watchtower constantly, which was the case in the linked debate of which you were involved - The very reason I cited Abraham and Chloe to begin with, even Prophetess Deborah.
You were told this several times actually, to read your Bible.
Well the Bible is clear on what you must do.
What is stopping you from reading simply one verse, or part of it?
That excuse can work with anyone here, but when you have to answer for that in front of the White Throne, before God himself, during a situation where time has ran out, you can't make excuses against one who is of high Sovereignty.
That being said, I do so from memory as well, but I still read, as is what is written for a follower of God, even Christians, are to do. 
Reading one verse, in the Bible, then mediating on it, even observe it, is not difficult. You can simply pick a verse or two and meditate it for a span of a day or a few days until you understand the context fully.
This is why concerning Abraham, Chloe and Deborah, if you actually read for context, your remarks in regard to them would be extremely different, even in this case, Apostle John.
Unfortunately, the claims are true, in the debates and in the cases made when I told you the following.
 
  
Granted there was a reason as to why this was said, hence claim.
I do not use opinions, so the fact you keep saying that is getting rather old. An opinion can't be verified, but what you said about the mentioned figures in the Bible, can be shown with absolute fact, I already mentioned your remarks of Chloe and Deborah, I can do the same with Abraham.
I leave the below to remind you the difference.
  
 
If I had to make an opinion, I would simply say, I do not believe you read the Bible, and in that case, I would not really have any evidence against you, but that is simply fiction, granted, you provided ample evidence on why such is said about you, and now, your excuse of not reading God's Word.

Dear Thinking, if this is the case with me then in my defense I can say that I am neither the first nor the last to whom this has happened. And, smarter heads than mine made far bigger misinterpretations. 

“ …. Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, what God has in store for those that love him …. “

I hardly ever quote Scripture, and almost never debate scripture, because I believe there is so very much we do not know about any subject you could mention … and subscribe to Jehovah’s Witnesses core beliefs only because they make good common sense, which really is unique.….
But then we get into speculation about what happened to Enoch, and accounts musing about being caught away to 2nd or 3rd Heaven, etc., and things about which there is a staggering ambiguity.
With all my heart I believe there really is a “Rainbow Bridge”, without any Scriptural support whatsoever, or basis except the yearning of my heart.….. just the hope that the ones I have loved the most in my life, they have not perished from the Earth.
And perhaps, just maybe, Jehovah will someday let us meet at the Rainbow Bridge.

Do ya want to have a Bible study then ….😉

Fatter heads are not necessarily smarter.

Oh..okay..now I know why you take that scripture out of context….

Very true, unfortunately child services have also become predatory.... because the privatized institutions get funded by the government and are profit driven. (This is another very dark scenario). Calling Police (to the average person) is a frightning prospect because a bad policeman can be the beginning of a frightening nightmare. The FBI is tenfold worse.  Citizens do not know how to hold them legally to order if they break the law themselves. Race may also be an issue. A lot of what goes on is just raw display and use if power. 
We have human laws but they are not enforced in a loving way..... and are not fair to all.  Most JWs also do not know how to act when an elder has overstepped the mark. Bottom line: injustice can happen anywhere and all humans are vulnerable to mild or hardened predators and all degrees of injustice.  One is just fortunate if something really bad has not happened to you. 

Please define what the phrase "reading the Bible" means to you in the context of the name Srećko? In what way do I claim, “I read the Bible”?
I don’t read the Bible every day, or occasionally. When I refer to a biblical passage or report I do so from memory or go to a book or google to see where it is and what it says.
So your claim, that I claim to be reading the Bible, is not provable, it is just your opinion.  
 

When you stop doing that, common sense becomes the egotistical ravings of jerks.….. of which there is NO shortage.

Please define what the phrase "reading the Bible" means to you in the context of the name Srećko? In what way do I claim, “I read the Bible”?
I don’t read the Bible every day, or occasionally. When I refer to a biblical passage or report I do so from memory or go to a book or google to see where it is and what it says.
So your claim, that I claim to be reading the Bible, is not provable, it is just your opinion.  
 

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God,... - 1 John 4:1
God is spirit, demons are spirits, WTJWorg are spirit guided organization, Bible is inspired by spirit, human also have spirit. All of this numbered are connected to "spirit".
What is wrong to put all sorts of this spirits to challenge, to test? 
 

Here's how I see the content of the quotes you cited.
The trial should be conducted only by "saints".
Are there enough "saints"? Who declares someone as "saint"? Is there a numerical limit to the number of people who can be “saints”?
WTJWorg has doctrines, with which it would be difficult to solve these dilemmas.
It is hypocritical of the Organization that male “saints” have the right to act as “kings and priests” already today, in a world where the Kingdom of Christ does not rule. Admittedly, WTJWorg believes that the Kingdom still rules over the Earth through the Organization. If so then female “saints” should have the same role as their male counterparts. Or maybe the solution is to change gender/sex to male with the help of surgery?

That's fine with me. We disagree on many things, but I appreciate your intention.
Yes I saw the comments. Prohibition is nonsense. If I see you driving drunk then you should definitely be banned from driving.
SM? Ahhh. I was here. Do you/what you expected from me to do about that?

So we have a scenario like this:
Adam and Eve are perfect. Angel xy is perfect.
Adam and Eve sinned (as perfect individuals) and were punished for slowly aging, getting sick, and dying.
Angel xy sins (as perfect individual) but does not punished to grow old, does not get sick and does not die.
What's this all about?
-Are there two or more kinds of "perfection"?
-Isn't the punishment for sin death?
-Does the Bible promote the postponement of the death penalty for sin?
-In both cases, is it not disobedience that should be punished by death?
-Why didn't Moses get the inspiration to tell us in writing whether God warned / informed the angels during the creation of the angels that they would be punished by death or that there might not be such punishments for them?
In the Bible, God has written that the impunity of the guilty causes the guilty to continue to do evil and that evil will therefore spread more easily and quickly and prevail over the good.
What message did God send to men, and what to angels when God immediately expelled the first people from Paradise and left Satan in his Perfect Family in heaven?

Good Points 
The Bible says that any congregational discipline has to be done before the entire congregation.
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not do that.
End of thought.

Exactly, going by the Bible’s standards if nothing can change your brother or sisters stance on their sin by speaking to them in private or by having two or three go along with you yet they still don’t change, you’re then supposed to tell it to the whole church. The whole church would include women participating in the judicial process:
https://biblia.com/bible/niv/matthew/18/15-17
But the far greater sin of a JW is not involving the saints that God chose in any of the judicial processes which involve actual forgiving or not forgiving sins, but rather 3 commoners take on the matter in a secret room:
“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints?” 1 Corinthians 6:1
And of course we know, once God anoints someone as a saint “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians. 3:28
The priests are all of one body, male or female, they make up one body and are who Jesus put in charge of forgiving or not forgiving sins, but they are overlooked, actually, the proper word would be “trampled” (Luke 21:24; Revelation 11:2).
“And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.” John 20:22-23
 

I don’t understand why you oppose the idea of women (JW women) participating in the survey and judicial process?
WTJWorg tries to retain the right of men to be spiritual leaders and to govern the Words of the Bible based on some biblical passages.
But on the basis of which biblical passages can women be forbidden to participate in investigative / forensic and judicial proceedings when it comes to CRIME? Or is it about SPIRITUAL CRIME when it comes to CSA and other abuses? Absurdity.

So isn't SM promoting the same/similar, because from what he has written about himself so far, it could be concluded that his non-belonging to the "church" expresses independence from any established religious system. He advocates exclusivity for the Order based on Scripture. But he excludes his affiliation with the church/churches. Although every (christian) church is called to exist on the foundations of the Order of the Bible (Christian Order)

So we have a scenario like this:
Adam and Eve are perfect. Angel xy is perfect.
Adam and Eve sinned (as perfect individuals) and were punished for slowly aging, getting sick, and dying.
Angel xy sins (as perfect individual) but does not punished to grow old, does not get sick and does not die.
What's this all about?
-Are there two or more kinds of "perfection"?
-Isn't the punishment for sin death?
-Does the Bible promote the postponement of the death penalty for sin?
-In both cases, is it not disobedience that should be punished by death?
-Why didn't Moses get the inspiration to tell us in writing whether God warned / informed the angels during the creation of the angels that they would be punished by death or that there might not be such punishments for them?
In the Bible, God has written that the impunity of the guilty causes the guilty to continue to do evil and that evil will therefore spread more easily and quickly and prevail over the good.
What message did God send to men, and what to angels when God immediately expelled the first people from Paradise and left Satan in his Perfect Family in heaven?

I don’t understand why you oppose the idea of women (JW women) participating in the survey and judicial process?
WTJWorg tries to retain the right of men to be spiritual leaders and to govern the Words of the Bible based on some biblical passages.
But on the basis of which biblical passages can women be forbidden to participate in investigative / forensic and judicial proceedings when it comes to CRIME? Or is it about SPIRITUAL CRIME when it comes to CSA and other abuses? Absurdity.

Yes indeed, JWs are persecuted for being Pedophiles, persecuted for dishonest teachings, persecuted for their lack of love and lack of mercy.  Persecuted for crying wolf about Armageddon. JWs bring no honour to anyone. 

One should always appreciate and believe in the honesty and integrity of other people. It is commendable that JW have faith that GB wants to be fair and honest. Other people outside the JW community need to be able to understand that JW members want to trust their leaders and consider them honest. It is a good quality in any interpersonal relationship that enables success.
I think the problem is in withdrawing the thesis that equates (human) perfection with infallibility. It's not quite the same.
The best examples of this are Adam and Eve. Perfect people, but that didn't save them from making a fatal mistake. 
Invoking imperfection, over and over again when something is said and done wrong, becomes meaningless because the state of "imperfection" becomes a tool to justify and excuse one's own inability to do something with the least bad consequences.
GB uses such a tool to justify his own misguided guidelines that they worked for in the name of God. Therein lies their guilt.
If they had said clearly and loudly that they have an opinion and belief about a doctrine that is such because it seems to them most accurate, then they could rightly invoke imperfection, so they were mistaken. But when they claim that doctrines are the only and unique truth because they come from God, then all subsequent wisdom, they later show, makes no sense.
 
 

It is with such things that GB juggles.
They claim how they are not inspired by spirit and they are not infallible but they are guided by the spirit, ............. so it is a guarantee that they can be given complete trust.
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