Srecko Sostar

Only in your mind, only for individuals who have amnesia about WT history, only for new JW members who have complete trust in GB.  

I love this one, grand wizard? You just made my day, thanks.

Sure, as long as you know it's your madness, and not the truth within your madness.
What is shows, there was ignorance perpetrated by a falsehood that was generated in part by imposters that the Watchtower had to finally take action. It has nothing to do with your kind of nonsense.
No shifting to those that understood. Now, to the uneducated, they can call it anything they like.
How can I skip something if I posted the entire article. What you highlighted is nothing more of you not wanting to fully understand. 
If you don't get the representation of what this "generation" means and everyone here has not explained it to you, since they don't understand it either, what makes you think, you have made a point?
The blind cannot lead the blind to God's truth.
Once again, this is the ignorance here of not understanding what generation really means. Foolishness perpetrated by foolish people.
You're incorrect. I don't need to defend 1975 to the foolish. I just need to show the reader how foolish the attempt is to establish a false narrative coming from present and former Jehovah's Witnesses.
Until you get a clue on what the Watchtower was trying to convey, you will still be ignorance. Remember, no one here to what I've read hasn't a clue either, so I will not engage in another obtuse argument about that.

You made pure repetition from WT magazines. Nothing unknown to me.
Obviously you skipped some WTJWorg articles. AGAIN! :))) Here are quotes just from one WT study magazine. For "stellar mind" would be enough.
Especially since the spiritually invigorating year 1919, the anointed remnant of Christ’s brothers fearlessly presented God’s judgments, powerful messages of calamity, to Christendom. ..............
Over the last seven decades, in conjunction with proclaiming the glorious hope of Jehovah’s incoming Kingdom, Jehovah’s Witnesses have spread around the world a veritable flood of denunciation and judgment...............
Have Jehovah’s Witnesses toned down God’s judgment? True, we live in an age when criticizing another religion is not considered the thing to do. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s Witnesses’ publications are spelling out the same message of judgment for Christendom as always..................
Therefore, Jehovah’s Witnesses will continue to visit the people of the nations with a message that stings the majority as an unpopular judgment but is happifying good news for a minority—the good news of God’s Kingdom
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1988245

Perhaps you have some software or hardware problems with your PC and monitor.

Made in WT Society spiritual kitchen. :))

Can I continue my madness now?
@Witness put a picture of a magazine from 1968. You put a quote from a magazine from 1974.
What it shows us?
A little shift in the interpretation of the date when the end of the system of things begins.
From the magazine you provide as evidence you should note what you skipped to emphasize. And it is:
All we know is that the end will come within the generation that sees fulfilled on it the sign that Jesus Christ said would then be in evidence. (See Matthew chapters 24, 25.) All indications are that the fulfillment of this sign began in 1914. So we can be confident that the end is near; we do not have the slightest doubt that God will bring it about, the speaker stressed. - w74 10/15 page 635
Mitigating the outcome of the end in 1975 with the claim that the end comes within the generation of 1914 means stretching the period in which the end (destruction of the evil world) will occur definitively.
Your and SM's attempt to defend 1975 is in vain. 
You need to be aware that "1975" was in fact within the lifetime of the "1914 generation", from WT perspective. It means that WTJWorg’s “prediction” was based, and even justifiably based, on the doctrine and interpretations of the time. Because if they were right with the definition of "generation", the end could really have come in 1975, if we had looked at it from their position at the time. :)))

I think my "half-truth" and your "truth" are saying the same thing.
 "Just think, brothers, there are only about ninety months left before 6,000 years of mans existence on earth is completed... The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those who are destroyed then. So, now more than ever, it is vital not to ignore that spirit of wanting to do more." (km 3/1968 p. 4) 
"There is only a short time left before Jehovah will destroy this wicked system of things." (Wt 1/15/1969)
"The Bible book of Revelation (chapters 20 and 21) reveals many of the good things that the thousand-year rule will bring. It also tells us that this millennium must be preceded immediately by the most destructive war in all human history. We can now see the political rulers or “kings of the entire inhabited earth” being gathered, under forces beyond human control, for that War of all wars, at the place called Har–Magedon"  (Wt 74/7/1 pg 397)

Can I continue my madness now?
@Witness put a picture of a magazine from 1968. You put a quote from a magazine from 1974.
What it shows us?
A little shift in the interpretation of the date when the end of the system of things begins.
From the magazine you provide as evidence you should note what you skipped to emphasize. And it is:
All we know is that the end will come within the generation that sees fulfilled on it the sign that Jesus Christ said would then be in evidence. (See Matthew chapters 24, 25.) All indications are that the fulfillment of this sign began in 1914. So we can be confident that the end is near; we do not have the slightest doubt that God will bring it about, the speaker stressed. - w74 10/15 page 635
Mitigating the outcome of the end in 1975 with the claim that the end comes within the generation of 1914 means stretching the period in which the end (destruction of the evil world) will occur definitively.
Your and SM's attempt to defend 1975 is in vain. 
You need to be aware that "1975" was in fact within the lifetime of the "1914 generation", from WT perspective. It means that WTJWorg’s “prediction” was based, and even justifiably based, on the doctrine and interpretations of the time. Because if they were right with the definition of "generation", the end could really have come in 1975, if we had looked at it from their position at the time. :)))

It was Not EVER said Gods day would come or Armageddon…..it was alluded to strongly that it was a significant event and meant something important ….

:))) 
A lot has been said, because a lot of it has been written about 1975 in WTJWorg publications.
There is no need to explain this from me, because it is the rhetoric that is widely used by GB and WTJWorg.
But you haven't become a "Truther" yet, have you?  
You have a lot of difficulty in various forms of perception, while you put other people in boxes that you shape yourself of your choice, don't you? Even Dmitar warned me about your modus operandi.  
WT exposes itself by exposing its past by blaming its own flock of sheep for alleged rumors that the flock began to spread on its own.
It is absurd to believe in GB claim that JW sheep started bleating about 1975 unprovoked. The then and present WTJWorg administration is a church hierarchy that does not allow anything to happen beyond their control.
And today you are trying to sell us the claim that these were some insignificant or semi-insignificant JW rank and file members who started mass hysteria (rumors) of such magnitude that even today WTJWorg publications have to write about it on the pages of WT magazine that is studied at JW meetings ? If 8 million JWs have to read and discuss this in meetings today because GB decided it was important for today's JWs to learn, then it's hard to accept your thesis that it was just rumors that were the product of the intellectual incompetence of a few JWs from period before 1975.

:))) 
A lot has been said, because a lot of it has been written about 1975 in WTJWorg publications.
There is no need to explain this from me, because it is the rhetoric that is widely used by GB and WTJWorg.
But you haven't become a "Truther" yet, have you?  
You have a lot of difficulty in various forms of perception, while you put other people in boxes that you shape yourself of your choice, don't you? Even Dmitar warned me about your modus operandi.  
WT exposes itself by exposing its past by blaming its own flock of sheep for alleged rumors that the flock began to spread on its own.
It is absurd to believe in GB claim that JW sheep started bleating about 1975 unprovoked. The then and present WTJWorg administration is a church hierarchy that does not allow anything to happen beyond their control.
And today you are trying to sell us the claim that these were some insignificant or semi-insignificant JW rank and file members who started mass hysteria (rumors) of such magnitude that even today WTJWorg publications have to write about it on the pages of WT magazine that is studied at JW meetings ? If 8 million JWs have to read and discuss this in meetings today because GB decided it was important for today's JWs to learn, then it's hard to accept your thesis that it was just rumors that were the product of the intellectual incompetence of a few JWs from period before 1975.

:))) 
A lot has been said, because a lot of it has been written about 1975 in WTJWorg publications.
There is no need to explain this from me, because it is the rhetoric that is widely used by GB and WTJWorg.
But you haven't become a "Truther" yet, have you?  
You have a lot of difficulty in various forms of perception, while you put other people in boxes that you shape yourself of your choice, don't you? Even Dmitar warned me about your modus operandi.  
WT exposes itself by exposing its past by blaming its own flock of sheep for alleged rumors that the flock began to spread on its own.
It is absurd to believe in GB claim that JW sheep started bleating about 1975 unprovoked. The then and present WTJWorg administration is a church hierarchy that does not allow anything to happen beyond their control.
And today you are trying to sell us the claim that these were some insignificant or semi-insignificant JW rank and file members who started mass hysteria (rumors) of such magnitude that even today WTJWorg publications have to write about it on the pages of WT magazine that is studied at JW meetings ? If 8 million JWs have to read and discuss this in meetings today because GB decided it was important for today's JWs to learn, then it's hard to accept your thesis that it was just rumors that were the product of the intellectual incompetence of a few JWs from period before 1975.

This is what I suggest.  Buy yourself a 25 piece puzzle on Amazon, and practice putting it together until you see the entire picture on the box.   Then, revisit 1975, put the pieces - all of the Wt  articles pertaining to 1975, together, and you will see the entire picture.  (but you already know that)
Better yet, find a JW who sold his house around 1975, and forfeited his job to prepare for Armageddon.  Ask him, if he believed the organization's leaders told him that 1975 was the date for Armageddon.  (you already know his answer)
If you can't envision the "picture" puzzle, or you don't believe the JW, you are either blind, hard of hearing, a liar, or a manipulator -  for whatever reason, only you know.  
 

Dear Dmitar, dear Allen, 
Who are you trying to protect?  What are you defending?  The sly way the leadership promoted, but didn't promote, a date for Armageddon to come?  Isn't that called hypocrisy?   Is this how Jesus expects those whom he sends, to teach his sheep?  John 13:20 
Prov 13:5; Luke 12:1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

What do you think Armageddon means to JWs?  It means the destruction of the "world" as they know it.  Analyze the first paragraph, with eyes open.  
 
 
 

Coming from Africa, I can attest to that.  We just arrived at a Safari camp when I forgot the kitchen window open.  In jumped a monkey and stole the sugar pot.  It lay broken outside the window but the two monkeys were sitting right in the sugar and eating it all up like a pair of toddlers.  Then they turned around and licked each others butts clean.  They sure gave us much to laugh at. Next day a warthog was walking around on his knees on our stoep (veranda) eating some carrots we gave him.  They do this in the wild as well !    I think we will have a ball with the animals in the paradise. Yes, Creation shows that god has a sense of humor. 

So the WTJWorg organization solely led by the Holy Spirit along with all the JW people in it fell victim to “rumors”?
How is this possible when JWs are the only people who are “spiritually awake” from long past,  while the whole world sleeps in “false dreams”?

I hope this doesn't offend you, but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you. 😁

You can live it, breathe it, sweat over it, anticipate it, sell your house, land, belongings - and be complimented for the trust and faith you put toward the leadership of men and the direction of “Jehovah’s organization” – you can be a child of parents who received the praise for their faithfulness, and suffered the consequences later as they scraped to provide for their family -  but that testimony means nothing to SM. 
Not until a JW leaves and expresses that 1975 was another false prediction made by the Wt, does SM then take note.  That person becomes the liar, according to him, because Wt never said specifically, these words: ARMAGEDDON WILL ARRIVE IN THE FALL OF 1975.  The leaders manipulated the time period and the date.  They built up the hype in every way possible without targeting themselves (the upper echelon leaders) as the instigators. They condemned those who later left, because of the failure.  
Manipulation is a serious sin according to God. (2 Cor 11:13-15) It is called “lying signs and wonders”.  (Matt 24:24; 2 Thess 2:9)  It is blatant deceit; so to call the person a liar who can plainly see through the manipulation, tells me that the accuser who excuses the manipulation, and instead focuses on the person who knows more about living through it, or living under the umbrella of lying signs and wonders...shows that the accuser, could also be a manipulator. 
 Can a wolf, cry wolf?  Of course!  They howl as a form of communication. 
 
 

Let it be as you said  

Let it be as you said  

The point is this:
invisible things that supposedly happened in heaven in 1914, for which there is not a single shred of evidence their invisible kingdom with an invisible presence supported by invisible people, or angels as the case may be is completely indistinguishable …… Based on facts…… From a delusional fantasy.
The Bible said that nobody knows when Armageddon is going to take place and it would surprise everybody.
So far, every person, group, and organization that has claimed insight and ability to explain prophecy as always without exception been 100% WRONG.
That arrogance, fraud and just being flat wrong has been going on for at least 2000 years.
There have been no exceptions.
And I believe, that is the point.

For those that have been on the ARCHIVE for many years, we remember that what has been said about this if it was assembled and stapled  together it would be about  a 1000 page book.
 
Everything that has been said or could’ve been said has been said, over and over and over and over. Then it’s been rephrased a dozen times In a dozen different ways and that has been resaid over and over.
in a dozen different ways and that has been resaid over and over.
It’s real simple for me, because I was there and I watched it happen from California to the Congo and in the state of Virginia in the middle.

The battle cry was “stay alive till ‘75”
.…. which, surprisingly, I’ve been able to manage, so far.