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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Since all people are “imperfect,” then one could say that some BSs probably also had racist feelings thanks to their American culture, heritage, and social environment.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    No, i can't. On the other hand, I don’t even need to confirm things that belong to the behaviors of the human species. The behavior of the human species in general confirms that these and many other things burden human relationships.
    Also, JW publications and other verbal topics that can be heard at JW meetings confirm that some JW members have trouble overcoming negative feelings towards others. Among other things, these are national and racial and social differences that create divisions within some assemblies.
    I come from a region and a time when people of many nationalities of the former Yugoslavia belonged to the same assemblies. I also visited the so-called "Yugoslav" assemblies outside the SFRY (Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia), which had great tensions after the break-up of Yugoslavia in 1991. So I kind of know what I'm talking about.
    If this was the case in this part of Europe, why would racial and segregation issues not have a greater impact on the lives of JW assemblies in America? And not only in the "period of segregation" in the years mentioned in the comments, but also today?
    Proof? Do some scientific research and you will get official data. Which will be able to be challenged because some will not want to believe in them.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    SM has a special mill that requires water to go uphill so it can run.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    …. Marker to hold this spot until I finish my nap ….
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Space Merchant in Will Life Ever Return to Normal? How the Bible Can Help in a Post-Pandemic World   
    Someone linked this video in the comment section of a fellow Truther, I found this to be very interesting, for it correlates with what I said in 2021:
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    Personal or collective maneuvers from GB are visible through written texts in publications, and they are even more colorful when you watch them via JWTV.
    A close and fresh example is Stephan Lett's statement (March 2020) that these are "the last days of the last days",........... and Tony Morris (February 2022), with a grimace of disapproval in his face as he repeats his colleague's words, says it is "beautiful expression, but words are powerful".
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    JWs in general?  NO!!  They don't all know about it!  They blindly follow their leaders advice to stay away from anything that is not approved by the GB!  
    This was posted by a JW, for JWs:
    To My Beloved Brothers and Sisters. New Light is here!
    I wanted to share something quite profound with you, penned by our own founder and published in the Watchtower before it was called "The Watchtower". He was so right about this point! I've included the first paragraph for context, but I would really like your opinions on the second paragraph especially. I tried to pick points that would warrant highlighting, but I found that the whole paragraph would then be colored and it would be moot. The whole thing is important, then as it is now and will be into the future. This is the truth about New Light. Much peace and love to you all.
    1881 Zion's Watch Tower https://archive.org/details/1881ZionsWatchTower/page/n49/mode/2up
    The above source is an archive site, a safe and public library featuring much of the last century's print works, free of charge. It includes much of our old publications, even well beyond what we can access through JW.ORG What a treasure trove, don't you think?
    Obviously, the intention here is to help his brothers and sisters use some critical thinking skills. But, If every JW knew about the Archive, why would this JW NEED to assure his brothers and sister that it was available...and that it is safe?  This is the same man who was surprised at finding out that there is an inaccessible database already on the JW website.  Still, many will not go to the Archive out of fear.  I've been there, I've been in that situation.  You haven't been a JW to understand this.  Why can't you just accept it?  I presented the video with no written personal opinion.  I posted it for anyone to see and form their own opinion.  They can accept it as fact, or reject it.  You, on the other hand, pick it apart and blame me for what you find is inaccurate...as if I was the one who produced it. 
      
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Because you were never a JW, you don't know how the JW mind works.  I am sorry, but you don't "know" everything, SM.
    "Downloading our publications from anywhere but jw.org is potentially dangerous. Jehovah has entrusted the responsibility of providing spiritual food to “the faithful and discreet slave” alone. (Matt 24:45) That “slave” uses only its official websites to publish spiritual food—www.jw.org, tv.jw.org, and wol.jw.org. And we have only three official apps for mobile devices—JW Language®, JW Library®, and JW Library Sign Language®. We can trust these products to be free of advertisements or contamination by Satan’s world. If the spiritual food passes through other channels, there is no guarantee that it has not been altered or contaminated.—Ps. 18:26;19:8.   w18 April p. 30-31
    The average, faithful JW will take this to heart and avoid what the internet has to offer for researching their publications. With this in mind, and the restricted food available to JWs on the website, the past publications that go beyond what they can access in "their" online library, are concealed.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Although in reality it IS just like any other organization, the Wt organization teaches that it belongs to God.  It is "spirit-directed" according to them, which means, "spirit breathed", or "inspired".  (Rev 13:15)   All decisions come from "Jehovah", "Jehovah's organization", and down to the uninspired GB.  When the nation of Israel was under God's direction, nothing was hidden from His nation.  His laws and instructions were clear, concise and taught to each member of Israel, as well as any foreigner who joined them.  
    he Wt compares itself to Moses leading God's people through the wilderness.  Since that comparison is made, then all of  Wt's history, their past publications said to be under the direction of God, should be open to every JW to learn from; not concealed as it is.   
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Sounds like an opinion to me.  Where are the facts to support this?  Have you talked with him personally?  
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    If this bothers you that I have expressed my opinion of confidence in what the video reveals about concealment of publications, then perhaps it should be you that should do "legitimate research".  
    Obviously, I touched a nerve, but thank you for explaining.  It must be admitted that the regular joe would question your choice.  
    I know you took great pains to write out all that you did on racism, but this isn't why I posted the video.  The primary reason is concealment of Wt's history of publications, from the general JW.  
    Regarding a secret database, this is one JW's opinion when watching the video:
    "Will you just look at that. How strange that we would make it so difficult to read our past writings. Wow. This reminds me so much of Scientology. You are only allowed certain information once you are deep enough into confidence."
    Get the facts.  Start asking every JW you know if they realize there is a database of every publication the Wt has published, and is available only to a chosen few, on the website. 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I know what you had say about BS and JW at that era.
    You actually expressed your opinion in which you justify the segregation of that time which was the norm of behavior for BS and JW (in America) of that time.
    Can you provide evidence from WT publications from those period of time where they condemning racism and / or justifying segregation? Which WT publication from that time says that one should listen to Caesar more than God in matter of racism and segregation?
    Do you suggest how BS/JW  out of fear of men, knowingly violated God's norm that all men are equal before Him?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You justify other people's actions nicely. So, can one act unethically, morally questionable, or even unjustly because “unbelieving” people and (one other kind of Christians) Bible Students and later JWs lived in a time period when racism (or anything else) was the norm?
    The norm of behavior in different time periods of history and the present does not coincide with the interpretations of some norms we find in the doctrines of different religious communities before or now.
    This only confirms that the manifestation of religious beliefs can be manifested in at least two ways. Consistent and fanatical adherence to doctrines at the cost of ridicule, rejection, persecution and even death , to the point that compromises are made in order not to experience condemnation from the environment and society, under the pretext that it is okay because God does not ask for more. 
    (society required them to do so + kept neutrality and adhere to secular laws and customs.)
    In some of the behaviors of JW members, it was clear that the neutrality they displayed was not related to obedience to the laws and customs of society.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You justify other people's actions nicely. So, can one act unethically, morally questionable, or even unjustly because “unbelieving” people and (one other kind of Christians) Bible Students and later JWs lived in a time period when racism (or anything else) was the norm?
    The norm of behavior in different time periods of history and the present does not coincide with the interpretations of some norms we find in the doctrines of different religious communities before or now.
    This only confirms that the manifestation of religious beliefs can be manifested in at least two ways. Consistent and fanatical adherence to doctrines at the cost of ridicule, rejection, persecution and even death , to the point that compromises are made in order not to experience condemnation from the environment and society, under the pretext that it is okay because God does not ask for more. 
    (society required them to do so + kept neutrality and adhere to secular laws and customs.)
    In some of the behaviors of JW members, it was clear that the neutrality they displayed was not related to obedience to the laws and customs of society.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Dmitar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I know what you had say about BS and JW at that era.
    You actually expressed your opinion in which you justify the segregation of that time which was the norm of behavior for BS and JW (in America) of that time.
    Can you provide evidence from WT publications from those period of time where they condemning racism and / or justifying segregation? Which WT publication from that time says that one should listen to Caesar more than God in matter of racism and segregation?
    Do you suggest how BS/JW  out of fear of men, knowingly violated God's norm that all men are equal before Him?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I know what you had say about BS and JW at that era.
    You actually expressed your opinion in which you justify the segregation of that time which was the norm of behavior for BS and JW (in America) of that time.
    Can you provide evidence from WT publications from those period of time where they condemning racism and / or justifying segregation? Which WT publication from that time says that one should listen to Caesar more than God in matter of racism and segregation?
    Do you suggest how BS/JW  out of fear of men, knowingly violated God's norm that all men are equal before Him?
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You justify other people's actions nicely. So, can one act unethically, morally questionable, or even unjustly because “unbelieving” people and (one other kind of Christians) Bible Students and later JWs lived in a time period when racism (or anything else) was the norm?
    The norm of behavior in different time periods of history and the present does not coincide with the interpretations of some norms we find in the doctrines of different religious communities before or now.
    This only confirms that the manifestation of religious beliefs can be manifested in at least two ways. Consistent and fanatical adherence to doctrines at the cost of ridicule, rejection, persecution and even death , to the point that compromises are made in order not to experience condemnation from the environment and society, under the pretext that it is okay because God does not ask for more. 
    (society required them to do so + kept neutrality and adhere to secular laws and customs.)
    In some of the behaviors of JW members, it was clear that the neutrality they displayed was not related to obedience to the laws and customs of society.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    What silly reasoning.  Wt has taken material once public for years (and still is public in various forms - personal libraries, archive.org., etc. ) and made it only accessible to a select few within the organization. I would imagine you have an extensive library of publications yourself.  So, you are defending a private database that isn't really private.  Once public data to JWs, as "proper food at the proper time",  has since become "private", off limits, to the general population ofJ Ws.  Was it ever proper food to begin with?  Jesus said, good "food"/"fruit"  produced by those whom HE sends, should remain...but not hidden away from those who hunger for truth.  (John 15:16; Prov 3:27,28)  
    "If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this: that you produce much fruit and prove to be my disciples."
    Well, Wt did produce abundant fruit, that is now so rotten it must be hidden from the masses.  What have your leaders proven?  That God is glorified by their rotten fruit? 
    "Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit."  Matt 7:19,20
    This is a clamp down, a hiding of their past consistent failures, which appears to target specifically, the younger generations.  And it is they who have fully come to believe that the organization has nothing to hide.  
    "One who walks in integrity, walks securely, but one who takes crooked paths will be discovered."  Prov 10:9
     
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    They often cling to (follow) their own interpretations of biblical passages. For this reason, they need a "new light" along the way/road.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    Personal or collective maneuvers from GB are visible through written texts in publications, and they are even more colorful when you watch them via JWTV.
    A close and fresh example is Stephan Lett's statement (March 2020) that these are "the last days of the last days",........... and Tony Morris (February 2022), with a grimace of disapproval in his face as he repeats his colleague's words, says it is "beautiful expression, but words are powerful".
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Dmitar in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    When someone is deceptive about others, then Satan makes those people seemingly profess the truth. However twisted that truth is. Yet, this doesn't answer my question. You said you have insight. I was asking for proof on how a GB member has been manipulating scripture by interpretation to benefit himself. Can you provide the proof or not? You can ask any of your defenders here through I.M.
    Twisting things around to work with your vision is not proof. That's just means you are compromising your integrity.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    In a twisted way, they have made this distinction partially through their private database.  As doctrine changes and new publications are eventually dropped, the private database will grow, evidence of their lack of spiritual insight - the "wrong".   I liken it to their massive, dark garbage heap that “privileged” ones can still rummage through, to dig for a paragraph or sentence, appearing to contain some value.  I’m sure the writing committee and the GB relies on these “gems” when forming their new articles and talks; and it comes through as "wisdom", wearing a new coat of paint, but still its origin is from the garbage heap.  
    Sometimes the Message Bible gets right to the point.
    Ezekiel chapter 13
    God’s Message came to me: “Son of man, preach against the prophets of Israel who are making things up out of their own heads and calling it ‘prophesying.’ “Preach to them the real thing. Tell them, ‘Listen to God’s Message!’ God, the Master, pronounces doom on the empty-headed prophets who do their own thing and know nothing of what’s going on! Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals scavenging through the ruins. They haven’t lifted a finger to repair the defenses of the city and have risked nothing to help Israel stand on God’s Day of Judgment. All they do is fantasize comforting illusions and preach lying sermons. They say ‘God says . . .’ when God hasn’t so much as breathed in their direction. And yet they stand around thinking that something they said is going to happen.“   
    Haven’t you fantasized sheer nonsense? Aren’t your sermons tissues of lies, saying ‘God says . . .’ when I’ve done nothing of the kind? Therefore—and this is the Message of God, the Master, remember—I’m dead set against prophets who substitute illusions for visions and use sermons to tell lies. I’m going to ban them from the council of my people, remove them from membership in Israel, and outlaw them from the land of Israel. Then you’ll realize that I am God, the Master.
    “The fact is that they’ve lied to my people. They’ve said, ‘No problem; everything’s just fine,’ when things are not at all fine. When people build a wall, they’re right behind them slapping on whitewash. Tell those who are slapping on the whitewash, ‘When a torrent of rain comes and the hailstones crash down and the hurricane sweeps in and the wall collapses, what’s the good of the whitewash that you slapped on so liberally, making it look so good?’
    We heard Prov 3:5,6 repetitively as JWs, but I don’t recall verse 7 accompanying it:
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
        and do not rely on your own insight.
    6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
        and he will make straight your paths.
    Do not be wise in your own eyes;
        fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.
    If the database is a straight path imparting God’s wisdom, all JWs should have full access to it.  Yet, it is concealed for the obvious folly – stumbling blocks - that it holds. New JWs cannot be stumbled so quickly via the surface streets available to find “knowledge”!  Proverbs chapter 4 explains that as individuals, we are to seek the wisdom of God, and it is obtainable.  Over more than a century, the collective human organization still has not found the wisdom of God, and they never will. (Col 2:8;1 Tim 4:1;Rev 16:13-16)  Wisdom comes from obedience to God’s laws in Jesus Christ…to his word. (Prov 7:1;Jer 35:13;John 14:23; James 1:22)  They have broken these laws by teaching doctrine of men, and by many other atrocities they have committed. (Matt 15:9; 2 Cor 11:4; Gal 1:8,9)
    Does their ability to conceal their secret library from the public as well as JWs, mean they believe they can hide their rotten fruit from Jesus Christ as well?  (Matt 7:7-29; John 15:1-11,16)
    Mark well that God doesn’t miss a move you make;
        he’s aware of every step you take.
    The shadow of your sin will overtake you;
        you’ll find yourself stumbling all over yourself in the dark.
    Death is the reward of an undisciplined life;
        your foolish decisions trap you in a dead end.    Prov 5:21-23
     
    Victory of Christ
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    I suspect, Dmitar, that you STILL HAVE NOT READ THE ARTICLE, or in calling someone a liar, you would have attached a screenshot of the article  to disprove my contentions, and prove your contentions.
    You did not indicate you read that SPECIFIC  1st Issue article, and so now the question remains about who of the two of us is a fraud and a liar.
    I know the answer, as do you …. And a screenshot of the Article in the first issue of the Watchtower about “What is Truth” will document which one.
     


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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    Mankind has had faith all this time. That is why we are now in the era of the Internet and virtual reality, among other things (with faith in God and with faith in people).
    Copies of the copies have been found and we have been using them for a long time. What if those saved and found copies are the ones with errors (accidental or intentional) in copying?
    If we believe that the writing of the original text was inspired by God, that is one thing.
    But no copyist of the first copy until the last copy was inspired to copy. What is not inspired automatically implies the occurrence of an error.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Governing body will sue anyone?   
    I can agree. And you should agree that this is about believing in multiple factors. Faith in those who wrote. Faith in those who made copies. Faith in those who found copies of copies. Faith in those who interpret copies of copies............Faith in a God who allows deception to happen.
     
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