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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    You describe the Governing Body of JWs very well in this sentence above.  And the Leaders of the Watchtower have been doing this for over a hundred years.  They play ping pong with scriptures, changing their view of interpretation. They play ping pong with their predictions for Armageddon. They've played ping pong with the 'blood issue' and fractions. 
    In fact they ping pong with people lives. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    Mr. Lifeson;
    Dmitar, although being able to read, does not correctly comprehend anything about anything, because his thinking processes are completely pre-programmed by a carefully crafted agenda which he is apparently duty bound to promote.
    It’s a very common phenomenon for soft hearted people, and the evil people whose livelihood depends on that good hearted naïveté.
    Life can only exist because it has something to eat … and for more than at least 200 million years there is inescapable HARD EVIDENCE that the God created Natural Order of all life is that there are two classes of animal life …. Predators …. And Prey. 
    This is the case now, and has ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
    When you accept this, only then will you understand Genesis, and a thousand other things, correctly.
    Agenda driven thinking always subverts and corrupts logical thinking, and ALWAYS results in the wrong conclusions.
    …. And a comprehensive totally screwed up world viewpoint filled with “inconsistencies”
    .Regrettably, and with great embarrassment, I know this from experience.
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    When you are a hammer, EVERYTHING looks like a nail.
    I do not “like” it that all living things poop and pee, but willy-nilly …. that’s the way it IS.
    But then again, trees pee oxygen and poop wood, which is very good.
    The whole of life eats and drinks, and pees and poops, with ZERO inconsistencies.
    I like That!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Mr. Lifeson in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    How do you define "acceptance" of this? I acknowledge it as reality, but I don't like it.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Mr. Lifeson in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    No, I'm talking about the animal sacrifices. From my understanding of Genesis, before Adam and Eve's disobedience, neither the humans nor the animals wanted to kill one another. Since they all lived according to God's Will before the fall, I assume that it was God' Will for humans and animals to not kill one another.
    So what I don't understand is what exactly made God approve of humans killing animals and bringing their corpses to Him as a way of honoring Him. Did Abel come up with this idea on his own or did he learn it from his parents or from someone else? And whoever the first human that got the idea of killing animals was, why wasn't this human told by God that killing animals causes them suffering and is against God's Will?
    Cain bringing grains to God is a bit more logical in the sense that they ate grains, so it was something along the lines of: "when us, humans, share food with each other, we enjoy our presence more, so maybe if I share food with The Being Who created me it will make This Being enjoy my presence more." So he brought grains, the food that he grew from the ground, to God. Granted, The Bible doesn't say that it was the best grains he had, so I understand why God would not regard Cain's offering. But the idea of bringing food to God is still grounded in logic, when compared to the idea of killing animals (which is basically destroying God's creation, bringing its remains to God, and telling God that you destroyed His creation as a means of honoring Him).
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    It is true that i have problematic grammar, but your confused conclusion is funny.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    ... roughly similar to concluding that Syrian Tanks could defeat Israeli Tanks ... BECAUSE .... giraffes like caramel coated oranges.
    Another image I find has considerable humor.

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in After Forty Years at Bethel...   
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    It is true that i have problematic grammar, but your confused conclusion is funny.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Mr. Lifeson in Did Carnivores Exist Before the Flood of Noah's Day?   
    I've been wondering about that for quite some time. I never understood why killing parts of God's creation was something that God would find acceptable. It makes zero sense to me. 🤔
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Really @Srecko Sostar!  😀  Rachel is sending her letters by the literal thousands to JWs world-wide.  This one with the QR code is being mailed as a post card.  How one person is able to accomplish what she's doing, can only be through the blessing of God's Spirit.  
    "angels" are messengers - human messengers.  🙂
    "And another, a third angel, followed them and spoke with a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he will also drink the wine of God’s wrath, which is poured full strength into the cup of his anger. He will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb, 11 and the smoke of their torment will go up forever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or anyone who receives the mark of its name. 12 This calls for endurance from the saints, who keep God’s commands and their faith in Jesus.”  Rev 14:9-12
    Jer 23:29 -  “Is not My word like fire”—this is the Lord’s declaration—“and like a hammer that pulverizes rock?"
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    I am not here to appease anyone. I am here to expose the organization as it is, a spiritual ruse that has trampled down the holy people of God.  (Isa 1:10-12; Dan 8:13; 11:15,16,31,32; Luke 21:24; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)
    Did Jesus revile, “abuse”, the Pharisees by telling them they were a brood of vipers, or did they revile him for speaking truth?  They called him Beelzebub, but it was THEY who were the progeny of the devil.  (1 Pet 2:23)  I have been called a child of the devil for addressing Wt's falsehoods.  (Matt 5:11)  
    Speaking against the GB and organization, does not mean I am abusing them.  The GB are locked away, behind a guarded gate.  They throw their insults against “apostates” freely and confidently from their compound, but they refuse to sit down with any anointed one who challenges their teachings.  Are they too good for the rest of Christ's brothers?  It appears to be so.  They are cowards in a sense, hiding in their fortress; yet they are also arrogant in their stand against Christ’s teachings, just as the Pharisees were.   On the other hand, they send out their henchmen to cut down any who speak against THEM.  (Matt 24:48-51) Their supposed rulership over others must be preserved at all costs - at the cost of others.  An unwelcomed knock on the door by an elder is common.  JWs don't necessarily live behind locked gates like the eight men do.  The point of the elder's visit is to judge a dissenter as unworthy of spiritual life for rejecting the GB and Satan's ruse.  (Dan 11:38)  These Harlots send out men not anointed, to cut down the holy priesthood - the anointed. (John 16:2; Rev 11:3,7; 13:15) The GB lead an insular life, but they cannot hide their actions from the Father and Jesus.  
    The Lord said:
    These people approach me with their speeches
    to honor me with lip-service,
    yet their hearts are far from me,
    and human rules direct their worship of me.
    14 Therefore, I will again confound these people
    with wonder after wonder.
    The wisdom of their wise will vanish,
    and the perception of their perceptive will be hidden.
    15 Woe to those who go to great lengths
    to hide their plans from the Lord.
    They do their works in the dark,
    and say, “Who sees us? Who knows us?”  Isa 29:13-15
    The arrogance of the GB proven through the C.O.’s talk that the elder commented on above, will be a good spark for the organization to cut the “Harlot” down.  (Rev 17:17)
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Pudgy in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    A careful analysis of how many times everybody has been wrong about "Gog of Magog", and using some reverse inductive analysis to determine the mean variation through linear regression proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that "Gog of Magog" is not a single individual, but a moribund consortium of Ferrets.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    The word “revile” is not always used in an abusive way, as the example you gave in 1 Cor 6.  In fact that Greek word means  abusive (mischief). 
    “Revile” in English, can mean a justified scolding in anger, as God has done when His people have ignored His decrees.  The reason the organization is the man of lawlessness, the "abomination standing in the holy place" (Matt 24:15),  is because it has ignored God's decrees concerning His chosen priesthood/"living stones". (1 Pet 2:5,9)  I wish you could see this.  While it states it has no clergy, it certainly does - a counterfeit in the elder body, and an authentic "clergy" in the anointed.  Replacing God's priests is an abomination.  (Ezek 44:6-9)
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    I think it is unrealistic to claim that all UN members have influence over the UN General Assembly and their decisions on behalf of “all nations”. There are several in the UN who are the only ones who have the right to veto all decisions, also those that are influential and powerful enough to undo any action by other UN members and to exert influence over them.
    In addition, various interpretations of the WTJWorg about the “northern and southern kings,” and “Gog of Magog” call into question the construction you have interpreted about the UN.
    To understand the prophecy recorded in Daniel chapter 11, we need to keep in mind that it identifies only rulers and governments that have had a direct influence on God’s people. And even though God’s servants make up only a small portion of the world’s population, they are often at the center of major world events. Why? Because Satan and his entire system have one prime objective—conquering those who serve Jehovah and Jesus. - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2020/The-King-of-the-North-in-the-Time-of-the-End/
    If the whole UN wants to destroy WTJWorg then they should be well aware of the JW ideology that makes them want to destroy you. 
    The king of the north has supported the king of the south in one key endeavor; they “put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.” (Dan. 11:31) That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations. -https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2020/The-King-of-the-North-in-the-Time-of-the-End/
    WTJWorg considers its Organization the only holy place on Earth because it is where God is worshiped in truth. How did the northern and southern kings put the UN in your “spiritual temple”? Or how will they put it in the future?
    But your magazines add confusion. We read this:
     In the first fulfillment, the “standing in a holy place” occurred in 66 C.E. when the Roman army (“the disgusting thing”) attacked Jerusalem and its temple (a place holy in the eyes of the Jews). In the larger fulfillment, the “standing” will occur when the United Nations (the modern-day “disgusting thing”) attacks Christendom (which is holy in the eyes of nominal Christians) and the rest of Babylon the Great. The same attack is described at Revelation 17:16-18. That event will be the beginning of the great tribulation. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013530#h=13:0-13:842
    WTJWorg is Babylon aka Confusion. 
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    PS 
     So the restoration of spiritual Israel in 1919 to a radiant spiritual prosperity, which continues and expands to this day, stands as evidence that Babylon the Great fell in that year. No longer does she have power of restraint over God’s people. Moreover, she has come into deep trouble within her own ranks. Since 1919 her corruption, dishonesty, and immorality have been widely exposed. In most of Europe, few people go to church anymore, and in some socialistic countries, religion is regarded as “the opium of the people.” Disgraced in the eyes of all lovers of God’s Word of truth, Babylon the Great now waits on death row, as it were, for the execution of Jehovah’s righteous judgment on her. - https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Revelation-Its-Grand-Climax-At-Hand/Babylon-the-Great-Has-Fallen/
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    You are very strong in what you believe.  I am also strong in my beliefs.  That's the way it is, isn't it.  I don't say you have "hate-OCD" simply because you continue to voice your belief loudly.  The GB are being exposed for who they are by other anointed.  The GB are charlatans, and that truth will come out.  They have disfellowshipped, through the elder body, who knows how many anointed over the years, who have stood against their teachings. (John 16:2; Rev 13:11,15)  The elder body/man of lawlessness will turn on "her", the Harlot, and apply the same treatment to her as she has to Christ's brothers. (Rev 17:15-18)  When it happens, you will know that God is watching all of this. 
    The only judge for Christ's brothers, is Christ himself.  Rom 14:4
    "In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous."  1 John 3:10-13
     
    “Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbor,
    Pressing him to your bottle,
    Even to make him drunk,
    That you may look on his nakedness!
    16 You are filled with shame instead of glory.
    You also—drink!
    And be exposed as uncircumcised!
    The cup of the Lord’s right hand will be turned against you,
    And utter shame will be on your glory.
    17 For the violence done to Lebanon will cover you,
    And the plunder of beasts which made them afraid,
    Because of men’s blood
    And the violence of the land and the city,
    And of all who dwell in it.  Hab 2:15-17
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    That's basically the end war - those on the side of Christ and his truth, battling against those on the side of Satan and his lies.  You just have to decide which side you prefer to stand with.  (Rev 12:7; Joel 3:14; Rev 18:4-8)
    When God sent his servants to proclaim the sins of His people, they never let up, did they. Rev 11:1-3
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Who are "they"?  Your leaders? Or, people in the world?  You've actually shown that the UN cannot be the Beast (Rev 13:5-7) that "makes war with the saints", because they don't even know who the anointed are.  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    Perhaps Russell was deranged, and Rutherford for building Beth Sarim...and Franz for promoting 1975, and then blaming JWs for its failure. 
    "In 1976, Fred Franz, Society vice president, spoke to a large audience in Toronto, Canada, and asked a rhetorical question:
    "'Do you know why nothing happened in 1975?  Then, pointing at his audience, he shouted:  'It was because you expected something to happen'" (Apocalypse Delayed, Penton, 1986, p. 100)
    The present GB, are absolutely deranged as well.  Their consciences are corrupted.
    "Everything is clean to those who are clean. But nothing is clean to corrupt unbelievers. Indeed, their minds and their consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good."  Titus 1:15,16
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    That  explains the rise of the Wt organization that you love, perfectly!  The Divine Plan of the Ages!  Perhaps not so divine, but more of a plan to "capture".  (Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)  Powerful use?  Yes against the anointed Temple of God, those under the New Covenant promise/"woman".  (Gal 4:23-26; Rev 12:1-4; 13:1,2)
    Why do You make men like fish of the sea, (Isa 57:20; Rev 13:1)
    Like creeping things that have no ruler over them?
    15 They take up all of them with a hook,
    They catch them in their net,
    And gather them in their dragnet.
    Therefore they rejoice and are glad.
    16 Therefore they sacrifice to their net,
    And burn incense to their dragnet; (“Jehovah’s organization”)
    Because by them their share is sumptuous
    And their food plentiful.
    17 Shall they therefore empty their net,
    And continue to slay nations without pity?  Hab 1:15-17
    “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind,  which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.  So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,  and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”  Matt 13:47-50
    Ever consider your "preaching work" as a form of capturing people into Satan's dragnet?   Can you honestly say that you have always preached "truth" - the authentic truth in Jesus Christ?  Or, "empty philosophy" of failed doctrine?  Why would anyone be proud and arrogant of such a preaching work?  
    These scriptures identify your leaders and what traits have been instilled in JWs:
    "You must understand this: In the last days there will be violent periods of time. 2 People will be selfish and love money. They will brag, be arrogant, and use abusive language. They will curse their parents, show no gratitude, have no respect for what is holy, 3 and lack normal affection for their families. They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good. 4 They will be traitors. They will be reckless and conceited. They will love pleasure rather than God. 5 They will appear to have a godly life, but they will not let its power change them. Stay away from such people.
    6 Some of these men go into homes and mislead weak-minded women who are burdened with sins and led by all kinds of desires. 7 These women are always studying but are never able to recognize the truth.
    8 As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men oppose the truth. Their minds are corrupt, and the faith they teach is counterfeit. 9 Certainly, they won’t get very far. Like the stupidity of Jannes and Jambres, their stupidity will be plain to everyone."  2 Tim 3:1-9
     
     
     
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    :))) This could be interpreted as the Bible being a Protestant book, too.
    God supposedly wants man to love him with all his heart. Love is the most sacred quality, because God is love. And love is exclusively a matter of the heart and only then of the soul and mind. The temple of God is in the human heart. Therefore, the heart is the holiest place because the Temple is the holiest place. Man himself is the temple of God according to the Bible. If in the past the Temple of God was the holiest place on earth (in Jerusalem), then the only place where God can dwell today is, nowhere else, but in the heart of a person.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    For I am the Lord who brought you up from the land of Egypt to be your God; thus you shall be holy, for I am holy.’”  Lev 11:45
    13 "Therefore, with your minds ready for action, be sober-minded and set your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the desires of your former ignorance. 15 But as the one who called you is holy, you also are to be holy in all your conduct; 16 for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy."
    We were there once, in ignorance.  Everyone who cares to love the Father and the Son are "called" out of that state of ignorance.  
    "Everyone the Father gives me will come to me, and the one who comes to me I will never cast out."  John 6:37
    Jesus answered, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him."  John 14:23
    "Being asked by the Pharisees when God’s Kingdom would come, he answered them, “God’s Kingdom doesn’t come with observation; 21 neither will they say, ‘Look, here!’ or, ‘Look, there!’ for behold, God’s Kingdom is within you.”  Luke 17:20,21
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Pudgy in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand),” - Matt 24:15 
    The whole chapter is complex and sometimes contradictory in expression.
    But one could observe the transferred meaning of two literal things. One literal thing is this graphic representation and the next literal thing is a biblical quote.
    It occurred to me to conclude like this:
    The holiest place in the universe is in a person’s heart. If 80% of the space in the heart of JW members is occupied by GB (man and his religious system) then this inevitably leads to disaster.
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in ELDER'S REFLECTIONS ON A MEETING WITH THE C.O.   
    And how does that Spirit reach uninspired men?  Did Jesus' spirit create the generation doctrine that has repeatedly failed?  Did Jesus send his Holy Spirit to tell men to set aside a date for Armageddon?  Did Jesus' spirit tell the GB they MUST build Ramapo?  Did Jesus' spirit tell the GB to fight for their money and "rights" in a court of law?  Did he tell them to refuse helping victims of child abuse, to disfellowship them instead of hearing them out?  Did Jesus encourage the hiding of child abuse in the organization....for years?  Would he tell the GB that his priests, the members of his body, MUST NOT BOND TOGETHER?  
    No.  Jesus was not interested in developing land, or hoarding money, or devising a doctrine contrary to the word set down in the Bible, so his ministers would not focus on such a thing either.  (Matt 6:19,20)
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT   
    How is the tetragrammaton pronounced?  Can we take the name of the Father, (not that of any man), and assume that it is okay to hybridize His name by adding to it, essentially creating a name that we feel is correct?   That is how the word, "Jehovah" came to be.
    “Jehoshaphat” - The name Jehoshaphat consists of two elements:
    1) The name יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which in turn are abbreviated forms of the Tetragrammaton; the name of the Lord: YHWH.
    2) The verb שפט (shapat), meaning to judge or govern
    “Joel” - The name Joel is most commonly interpreted to be a combination of two elements. The first element is יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which is the commonly accepted abbreviated form of יהוה, which is YHWH, the Name of the Lord.
    “Jesus” - The first part is the appellative יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which in turn are abbreviated forms of the Tetragrammaton; the name of the Lord: YHWH, or Yahweh.
    The second element of the name Joshua/Jesus comes from the verb ישע (yasha'), meaning to save or deliver.
     
    I don’t see “Jehovah” in their names at all, which is suppose represent the entire tetragrammaton.  The made-up word “Jehovah”, and how it is vocalized, is more important to you than His qualities; one being TRUTH, not fabrications from the minds of men.  (Ezek 13:9; Jer 23:16; Matt 24:24)
    A "city that is called by My name"/ a people for His name  – the people of the nation of Israel were considered the children of YHWH, a chosen people who were his spiritual and physical “offspring” through Abraham.  They were to bear His laws on their mind and heart – ONLY His laws, not those of men. They would then be considered children made in His image.  Through His Word, they would know God.   A sinner, a liar, wouldn’t be made in the image of God, would he?   He is a God of Truth, Justice and Mercy.  None of those qualities are found in the organization. 
    So, the warning goes out to the anointed in the organization; and those with them. (Rev 18:4-8)  Through their anointing, God’s laws were “written on their heart”.  (Heb 8:10) The early priests of the Temple wore the tetragrammaton on their forehead, a reminder of who they represented – the God of Truth.  (Deut 6:1,2,6-9)  What has happened in the organization to the anointed ones?  Their hearts have been derailed into following the laws of men. (Gal 1:10; 2 Cor 11:20)  They are ruled over by those not anointed. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) Thus the warning that the “holy city” – “New Jerusalem” (Gal 4:26), that is to bear the “name”, of God as His chosen people, (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9) has failed in keeping His decrees in Jesus Christ – who is Truth.  As a man, Jesus bore the “name” of God in every facet that one can.  Who are the anointed priests following -  Jesus, or false teachers/prophets who admonish their members to “bear” the name, “Jehovah’s organization” on their mind and heart? 2 Chron 7:12-22  They have fallen into idolatry. (Rev 13:4,17)
    Exod 20:7 – “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.”
    “vain” - שָׁוְא shâvᵉʼ, shawv; or שַׁו shav; from the same as H7722 in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjective), uselessness (as deceptive, objective; also adverbially, in vain):—false(-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.
    “hovah” - הֹוָה hôvâh, ho-vaw'; another form for H1942; ruin:—mischief.
    It is extremely ironic that JWs, as idolaters, push “Jehovah” so vehemently.  That word desecrates the entire meaning of who the Father is.   
     
     
     
     
     
     
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