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And who runs this "earthly organization"?  Obviously, it isn't Jesus Christ.  

Not one comment directed to the evidence the chart makes.  Who then, are the blind ones?  Who are suffering from cognitive dissonance?  It isn't the elder who made it.  Obviously, the GB "are more concerned about what people thought of them than about what God thought of them."  John 12:43
Jesus responded to them, “What I teach doesn’t come from me but from the one who sent me. 17 Those who want to follow the will of God will know if what I teach is from God or if I teach my own thoughts. 18 Those who speak their own thoughts are looking for their own glory. But the man who wants to bring glory to the one who sent him is a true teacher and doesn’t have dishonest motives."  John 7:16-18
These latter day "Pharisees" will not be overlooked from the judgment that comes against them.  Whether one, four, or all eight are removed, the Harlot will go down.  
 "Put on all the armor that God supplies. In this way you can take a stand against the devil’s strategies. 12 This is not a wrestling match against a human opponent. We are wrestling with rulers, authorities, the powers who govern this world of darkness, and spiritual forces that control evil in the heavenly world. 
13 For this reason, take up all the armor that God supplies. Then you will be able to take a stand during these evil days. Once you have overcome all obstacles, you will be able to stand your ground.
14 So then, take your stand! Fasten truth around your waist like a belt. Put on God’s approval as your breastplate. 15 Put on your shoes so that you are ready to spread the Good News that gives peace. 16 In addition to all these, take the Christian faith as your shield. With it you can put out all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Also take salvation as your helmet and God’s word as the sword that the Spirit supplies."  Eph 6
God's word is truth, never a lie.  Someone here excused the "massive" mistakes made by the organization over the years.  Massive - telling people that Armageddon would arrive and to prepare for it, then blame them for believing their lie, when it didn't come.  That is certainly massive.  And how many times did this occur?  How many people were effected by a LIE?  WHO IS THE FATHER OF THE LIE?  It is blasphemy to think God and Jesus Christ who is truth, would excuse these "massive" errors.  
Your focus is totally opposite than what scripture tells us.  While your eyes are locked in to the actions taking place on this earth, you have blinded yourself to the true spiritual war at hand - truth against lies. The GB, who cannot accurately provide the meaning of "this generation" since it relies on a false date, 1914, cannot provide truth to fight against the evil one.  They are holding on to their lie and convince the blind to remain under their control and to readily accept their falsehoods.  Those who commented here, are "drunk" on the Harlot's "wine"/teachings; so drunk, they cannot see what the chart reveals.  Rev 2:20; 17:1,2,17,18; Isa 29:7-14
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

It seems to me that this is exactly what the worship of God looked like in the beginning.

Recently, the expressions of a circuit overseer prompted a “PIMO” elder (meaning physically still “in” the organization, but mentally “out”) to share his thoughts on the overseer’s sixty-minute talk.  He jotted down the frequency of these words he heard during the talk - governing body, Jehovah, Jesus, God, love.
He created the pie chart below exposing the shocking narcissism of false prophets in a governing position, overtly setting their unauthorized rulership above that of Jesus Christ.  (Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:24-27; 2 Tim 3:1-8; Rev 13:11-14)
What is the chance of a co-rulership of unfaithful anointed “kings of the earth” (“ten horns”) and the Beast/body of elders, casting out - disfellowshipping - these spiritual Harlots/wicked steward? (Isa 57:3,4; Hos 9:1; Luke 16:2; Matt 24:48-51) (Rev 1:5; 17:12)
There is a 100 percent chance.  (Hab 2:2-16)
The power of the elder body in high positions, has gradually been growing in recent years.  As the “man of lawlessness”, this body has successfully usurped the position of God’s priesthood and “living stones” of His Temple dwelling. The anointed role of God’s choice of teachers and messengers sent by Christ, has been ignored, demeaned and “trampled” by the elder body/counterfeit priesthood. (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:4; Eccl 10:5-7; Dan 8:11,24; 12:7; Rev 11:2; 13:1,5-7; Matt 24:15,16) (Mal 2:7; John 13:20; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Rom 15:16; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
A jockeying for power of the Harlot’s prominence and lordship, will most likely fester resentment in the high-ranking elders, resulting in “her” sins being exposed.  The creator of the pie chart made the statement, “I knew the push for near God-like worship of the Governing Body is at an all time high, however even these numbers surprised me. It was way worse than I ever imagined.”
 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 
Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.”  Rev 17:12,13,15-17
“And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.”  Rev 18:4
 
Once the Org./Beast turns on "her", the punishment of her plagues is already released.
It is no longer possible to escape sharing in her punishment. 
So, it is not that it is too late to repent, 
but it is too late to repent as a means to avoid the harlot's punishment.
What is "part of her plagues"? 
The Beast turning on her is one. The very Gentiles she used on her brothers…
(Rev 13:15; 11:7; 6:9; 18:24; Jer 51:49; Matt 23:35,37; Rev 11:7,8)
…come around to her (Rev 17:16; Ezek 16:37,39; 23:9,17,22,28,35; Hos 2:3,10; Nahum 3:5,6)
This is the plague of the locust-scorpions (constituents of the Gentile Wild Beast).
For a time, that plague is only on the unsealed (anointed) who are dominated by the Org. (Rev 9:3,4,5,10;13:7)
Only "a third" who are disciplined, repent (Rev 9:18,20;8:7-12;Zech 13:8,9) 
(Jer 3:3; Amos 4:4,5,9,11,12; Rev 6:1,2,8,16,17).
Once the Org. becomes the eighth king (Rev 17:11,12);
all still inside are no longer worshiping the image of the Wild Beast because of the false prophet/wicked steward's priestly directive to do so (Rev 13:14,15,8;19:20).
They are then simply worshiping directly, a Gentile god 
(Exod 23:24; Deut 29:25-27; Jer 44:3; Dan 11:37-31)
The Eighth King/Punishment of the Great Harlot

Agree. Of course it is not so simple.

There are several archipelagos in the area and those suckers can hop! Duh.

Does this "Church of Christ" carry this name or have a specific, another name today?

I was in two forms of the Christian life. Until they became JW, my parents were Catholics and we lived as Catholic Christians (until i was 7 y old). Later they accepted the teachings of JW and with my parents I was raised in that spirit. So, accepting the faith of my parents, I became a Christian according to the beliefs and interpretations of WTJWorg.
I stopped being a Christian as defined and interpreted by the doctrine of WTJWorg.
Do I consider myself a follower of Jesus Christ? I think this is a question that should be asked more often by all those who feel they belong to some - every Christian ideology / theology.

I was in two forms of the Christian life. Until they became JW, my parents were Catholics and we lived as Catholic Christians (until i was 7 y old). Later they accepted the teachings of JW and with my parents I was raised in that spirit. So, accepting the faith of my parents, I became a Christian according to the beliefs and interpretations of WTJWorg.
I stopped being a Christian as defined and interpreted by the doctrine of WTJWorg.
Do I consider myself a follower of Jesus Christ? I think this is a question that should be asked more often by all those who feel they belong to some - every Christian ideology / theology.

It can also be an expression of competition and the ability to refute the opposite side with quotes. What the Spirit of God has in all this, on both sides involved in the discussion, does not have to be part of reality, but only on our ideas of reality. And our needs / skills to show ourselves stronger.
Of course, this (quotes) should not be wrong because it can give the other side food for thought. But it can come back like a boomerang if the other party has the knowledge to neutralize some biblical quote with another biblical quote or with reality. Quoting some biblical passages is, many times, part of the interpretation of a certain group of believers, and the interpretations are often times on shaky feet and are not a reflection of the workings of HS. WTJWorg has proven this many times.

As a former JW, I was also taught that the Bible (I guess it's just NT) was written for 144,000. Whether that's true or not I leave to the discussants. I suppose, among other things, this meant that they bear primary responsibility as “bearers of light” because of their special relationship with God through Christ. But today, I’m not entirely sure if that concept can be accurate. We are talking, here, about 144000 as a literal number according to WTJWorg.
But that’s not what prompted me to comment. Does the GB have special legitimacy, as “anointed” or as “FDS” or as “elders” or as some other type of entity in WTJWorg so that they are worthy of “full trust” from JW members? That would be in the context of your comment, and support ascertainment that any kind of “super important apostles” (self appointed GB, Helpers, all sort of administration) are irrelevant, also today, like those in the past.

It can also be an expression of competition and the ability to refute the opposite side with quotes. What the Spirit of God has in all this, on both sides involved in the discussion, does not have to be part of reality, but only on our ideas of reality. And our needs / skills to show ourselves stronger.
Of course, this (quotes) should not be wrong because it can give the other side food for thought. But it can come back like a boomerang if the other party has the knowledge to neutralize some biblical quote with another biblical quote or with reality. Quoting some biblical passages is, many times, part of the interpretation of a certain group of believers, and the interpretations are often times on shaky feet and are not a reflection of the workings of HS. WTJWorg has proven this many times.

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JW members (the vast majority of them) are lost in their illusions they have accepted from WTJWorg. Because they consider all the people around them, who are not JWs, “enemies” and only themselves the only righteous and honest people, who are, as they say, the only true worshipers of God, it brings them into one of the most dangerous situations one can find oneself; proclamation of self-righteousness.

But you contribute with "wood" by posting citation/verses. :)) 
 
 

Do you believe, it will only be the 144,000 saints that will inherit the earth? Is so, why is it necessary for humanity to comply with God's commands if God already knows who those are.

@xero There is no reason to be rude with your reply. No one here should have to be rude or obnoxious when posting.

Point by point rebuttal:
1.) I think I AM funny ... it's just that dog humor is often unappreciated by youth.  ( Most times, my jokes are just for me, anyway ...)
2.) Who cares who Dmitar really is, or his predecessors? A matter of momentary casual curiosity, forgotten in any other context.
3.) Referring to item No. 2, some people will downvote everything, completely irregardless of value, to TRY and be relevant ... without any success whatsoever.
4.) It's just you.
     ...... well, except that Joe Biden and his bat-crap crazy associates are successfully destroying civilization.
 

JW members (the vast majority of them) are lost in their illusions they have accepted from WTJWorg. Because they consider all the people around them, who are not JWs, “enemies” and only themselves the only righteous and honest people, who are, as they say, the only true worshipers of God, it brings them into one of the most dangerous situations one can find oneself; proclamation of self-righteousness.

JW members (the vast majority of them) are lost in their illusions they have accepted from WTJWorg. Because they consider all the people around them, who are not JWs, “enemies” and only themselves the only righteous and honest people, who are, as they say, the only true worshipers of God, it brings them into one of the most dangerous situations one can find oneself; proclamation of self-righteousness.

JW members (the vast majority of them) are lost in their illusions they have accepted from WTJWorg. Because they consider all the people around them, who are not JWs, “enemies” and only themselves the only righteous and honest people, who are, as they say, the only true worshipers of God, it brings them into one of the most dangerous situations one can find oneself; proclamation of self-righteousness.

Wednesday 1 September 2021 21:44, UK
https://news.sky.com/story/there-was-no-reprimand-nothing-changed-survivors-criticise-jehovahs-witness-elders-for-failing-to-act-over-child-sexual-abuse-claims-12396672
The Jehovah's Witnesses church says its elders "endeavour to comply with secular laws about reporting allegations of abuse" - but survivors say that does not necessarily translate to helping the authorities.
 
"I don't like the way he touches me."
That is how Emily described her abuse to elders at the Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall she attended in Loughborough.
Emily (not her real name) was eight-years-old and the man she accused was a ministerial servant in his 60s.
What followed was a series of failings that allowed him to continue abusing children for years to come. Sky News has spoken to several abuse victims who claim there is a culture within the Jehovah's Witnesses that fails those looking for help and puts others at risk.Problems include a failure to report allegations to the police, and a system that requires high levels of proof from the victim, but also allows a repentant abuser to remain within the congregation - at times without other members being told what they have done.Emily was sexually abused from the age of four - but when she reported the crime to elders in 1990, they did not call the police and told her she had made it all up.She told Sky News: "There was a phrase that they used a lot which is 'liars will not inherit God's kingdom', which is basically saying you're going to die at Armageddon, because you're a liar."

One survivor said they were treated as liars, and that they would therefore 'die at Armageddon'
It's a long and very truthful article, but well worth reading.
It gives true perspective to the JW Org and the ones that rule it. 

Scriptures have their advantages, but they also have their disadvantages. It is not a book on natural sciences, geology, biology, zoology, etc. For many of the things we are discussing we will never find a biblical quote. Or do you think it's possible?
If possible, then let’s say, who in this JW Open Club can quote some biblical passage that supports the thesis of JW Christians that blood components and fractions are that what they are not, or that they are not what they are? 
Many have a problem with WTJWorg, not just me. Loyal members have a bigger problem, because they are inside and I am outside :)) The fact that we are in the JW Open Club and that we are developing various discussions under this platform shows that you are not quite right in that assessment.
 

According to the WTJWorg interpretation, Adam and Eve along with their descendants lived long after their expulsion from Paradise. So they did not die the day they sinned. Various ideas about how long a biblical "day" lasts add to the confusion. We might speculate that their long life is a legacy of the remaining traces of “perfection”.
WTJWorg’s next idea is that Adam and Eve were aware of each of their actions. If so, then at the time of creation they already knew what to eat and what not. Or do you think that by being expelled from Paradise they became demented and forgot what could be eaten.  
It is difficult to understand God, especially after so many interpretations of him generated by religious leaders.  
 

Scriptures have their advantages, but they also have their disadvantages. It is not a book on natural sciences, geology, biology, zoology, etc. For many of the things we are discussing we will never find a biblical quote. Or do you think it's possible?
If possible, then let’s say, who in this JW Open Club can quote some biblical passage that supports the thesis of JW Christians that blood components and fractions are that what they are not, or that they are not what they are? 
Many have a problem with WTJWorg, not just me. Loyal members have a bigger problem, because they are inside and I am outside :)) The fact that we are in the JW Open Club and that we are developing various discussions under this platform shows that you are not quite right in that assessment.