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@Equivocation That is a good one - Gnosiophobia. A phobia of knowledge. Knowledge and experience is vital and key, those of which I both have, hence the history of learning, upbringing, even debates and discussion I have been in online and in person. Majority of my debates were always with Trinitarians, former JWs, former Muslims, Jehovah Warriors, Calvinist, Posterity Preachers, Black Israelites and Atheists. Even outside of that Scripture, there is the Constitution, World Powers, Opinion to some independents, and the Left vs Right Paradigm, of which is often the battleground for Truthers. In this realm, I actually have a few rivals/frenemies in this regard, one of him I defended. But knowledge and experience to some is demonized because they are in the fear of being wrong or incorrect; should you make a mistake, although to commit error, they would likely use it against you. Even here, you can see this with the lack of Christian History when one purposely confuses a legitimate Religious rival who is a Babylon tool, for another, for this alone shows how Satan will use such in the future due to a willful and mistake. And to add, Subordinationism is somewhat the birth anything related to Restorationism, as is being the earliest adversary of the Trinity Doctrine concerning the Christ. Also your points are sound, like this one [We believe in the commission - preaching of the good news, they believe that God gives riches and wealth in abundance, using Scripture to increase their personal wealth.] Also That is essentially what has been taking place for the ones unequipped regardless of institutions. This is what shows the difference between such people vs Activist on the matter, for they, as mentioned before, go on a warpath that only results in more problems, at times, they themselves do not know right behind them their are abusers and those who defend abuse, ironically enough ExJWs got defenders in there and they do not even know it. And you're right, in some media, such ones often send the abusers in the direction of children unknowingly. In the Truther Community, many, including myself has seen and read crazy things, this is why the kids I taught applied everything they learned to better protect themselves. The situation with pedophilia stems from today's ill minded society, and gets worse in the US and the UK, whereas in the UK is is complex due to how the law works there - for the justice system is unclean at times. That being said, I am aware of such people lurking on social media, even in places like read, I think on YouTube one of them was reinstated.

The problem here is, what was linked and shown to you were historical facts. Anti-Trinitarians who are trying to be like, strive to be are Restorationist, you are technically one yourself - the primary reason - you do not believe Jesus to be God. I suggest you read study up, to confuse it with New Thought Theology is just willful ignorance. It is that mentality of which Kosenen was correct about. That being said, ironic how you express ignorance on the history, as you have done with New Ageism. But like I said, Prosperity Preachers were as such and the fact that they get less heat coming their way only makes Babylon stronger.

@Srecko Sostar It has nothing to do with Activism. And the fact you mention you did nothing is telling. If you have access to media, you can teach/give insight on the matter. If I recall, you laughed at the thought of aiding children even though half the information was pulled from child sex abuse and prevention sources. And no, the terminology of the latter did not change, granted, paid spots and programmed spots still exist. But even if JWs attempted Televangelism, Babylon won't allow it - blocked. And granted you made references to Restorationism, you should realize that the ones that maintain their roots are not fans of Televangelism.

@AraunaUnfortunately, this is the case made by a lot of people. At times former members of a faith group just go on their way, most of the time, if they seek God (Allah), they end up adopting a lot of ideas that. If not there, most disgruntled few stem into apostasy. Then you have the rift between former members and those that dwell on odd ideas, hope at times, will combat each other, in some instances, they'll end up defending their former faith against a former faith brother or sister, in other cases, it spawns Christian Infighting also called infighting of faith where as it is like a 2 or 3 way wrestling match at times. Even outside of Religion, this applies to the common man or woman regarding views, even in the higher education system regards students. That being said, as the fact and point I made clear to the latter regarding Televangelism, the root of JWs and Bible Students, even the rest of the Anti-Trinitarian camp who make up Restorationist, wouldn't even consider such. It is one of the very reasons why back then Prosperity Preachers were dominate due to having such technology to do what they do, and to this day, there is still the enemy aspect between them and Anti-Trinitarians. The history is clear, but as you see, people refuse to even do research and assume things, conjuring misinformation themselves. It amazes me how some ignore the fact of what the real enemy is doing, therefore, when Babylon sweeps, there would not be anything to say for such ones because they've been told. But let's imagine your faith does Televangelism, that would mean siding with Babylon wholeheartedly. This is why, in reality, you wouldn't be able to regardless if you tried, granted, Babylon already deems you an enemy.

Did you even bother to look at the citation on the wiki quotation? Evidently - no. Also Restorationism aren't Protestants, since Protestant was the result of a break away from Catholicism. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Protestantism#16th_century Wilson, J. Matthew (2007). From Pews to Polling Places: Faith and Politics in the American Religious Mosaic. Georgetown University Press. ISBN 978-1-58901-172-4. That being said, it shows you really do not know the history of Prosperity Preachers, let alone of where they originated from. Again, those who know the history can speak on said history. Just highlighting a quotation without knowing the citation or context behind it shows the lack. I encourage you to learn the difference. https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Awakening https://www.britannica.com/event/New-Thought https://www.britannica.com/topic/universal-restoration And of course, as I recall you allusion to New Ageism, which is also cited in said source - https://www.britannica.com/topic/New-Age-movement (This is linked to the Spirituality theology by the way) This still stands I don't focus on surface information sadly. Again, you are making a claim of which Restorationist in general have a strong disdain for - Prosperity Preachers and everything pertaining to it. We see here you are equating two rivals together of which whom do not like each other for a very very long time, even before JWs existed. This stems back to again, The Great Awakening prior to, during and after. As pointed out in the past, Restorationist mostly use whatever means to push the Commission, they do not do what the Prosperity Preachers are doing, for which you are equating the two, which seems to be the case because you attempt this with Smurf and Zelda, in addition to that fact, you could not make any connection of the two. How can you call Restorationist Christians Prosperity Preachers if they for a very very LONG time have consider them sworn enemies? I do know a lot and I have experience, this is why I live up to what I said So the idea of, your claim of Anti-Trinitarians, among them, Restorationist being like that of a rival of whom some spoke ill of, is false here. In all respects, like I said to you before, you say you are chosen, but little lies and errs you at times preach as a truth. The very reason Kosenen called you out on this, as have I. Be careful of what you profess if the history speaks more truth. As for any JW here, they are rooted from Restorationism, due to it being their history be it they know it or not.

Again, and I will quote myself: That being said, they won't do such nor are they on their way, for Restorationists, as a whole, do not adhere to what the mainstream does. Babylon wouldn't even allow it if they tried, due to what has been taking place regarding religion from the early 2000s to now, even more due to former members of the faith in question. So your belief does not reside with the history, let alone the view of Restorationist Christians, mainly due to the fact of how they themselves view Prosperity Preachers. Likewise with Prosperity Preachers, who for over the years mock others who do not do the same as they do regarding Televangelism, i.e. Creflo Dollar, an American televangelist. Some of the off grid Restorationists had a lone of negative things to say about Televangelism for years now. Prosperity Preachers are rooted from The New Thought movement (also called Higher Thought), is a spiritual movement which coalesced in the United States in the early 19th century, this was around the same time the Great Awakening took place. It was during the Healing Revivals of the 1950s that Prosperity Theology first came to prominence in the United States in full force - thus these types of preachers are born. No, it does not. hence the following - how they themselves view Prosperity Preachers. Restorationist, and most Anti-Trinitarian Christians are, in this case, sworn enemies of Prosperity Preachers (similarly to how Muslims view Televised Dawah). This so called rivalry was possibly due to everything that transpired after the Great Awakening of Christianity (which is true hence the history) and where the Prosperity Preachers came in some years later to shift the battleground due to tools and technology unitized in that time, as for Televangelism, during the 1960s, Prosperity Preachers embraced it and came to dominance with televised religious programming in the United States, the first among them in this regard being Granville Oral Roberts was an American Charismatic Christian televangelist, ordained in both the Pentecostal Holiness and United Methodist churches. He was among the first, developing a weekly program that became the most watched religious show in the United States, and others followed suite in the Prosperity space. In the 1990s and 2000s, it was adopted by Influential Leaders in the Pentecostal Movement and Charismatic Movement in the United States and has spread around the globe. This is why Prosperity Preachers often use uncanny information to demonize anyone who is in the camp of Anti-Trinitarian, example would be Francis Chan, who essentially weaponized the Bible against not to just JWs and Anti-Trinitarians, even won over a big number of ExJWs (true - if you go to any material where preachers like him speaks of JWs, him specifically, likewise with those against the Trinity as a whole) and others of former faiths prior to and after the Babylon fueled event of 2016, as stated in the other thread, Babylon's wave took a lot of folks, even EXJws. Lastly, the very reasons they do this with Anti-Trinitarians is because their root of existence, which was explained. Also as for the verses you mentioned, not sure what was the reason for citing it. That being said, The situation with them and these types of preachers is no different to the difference between those who had their view of Jesus, Jesus being the Son of God, and those that see Jesus as God, going as far as to alter the Scriptures, even killing people, to do so. Other then that Prosperity Preachers are essentially an obstacle for sometime now, granted Babylon has been using them. History is always key, Witness, mainly if the history is factual. Also Tiktok? Oh, mon doux enfant dété.

They don't do televangelism, in fact, majority of the Restorationism community do not do televangelism at all, be it individuals (granted most are off grid) or a group. televangelism is primarily used by Charismatic Preachers otherwise known as Prosperity Preachers.

@Thinking Isn't there any instance of a house holder wanting you to come speak with them during the pandemic? Granted some restrictions are "temporarily" lessen in some cases.

I stick to Independents. MSM is a cancer, especially MSN and CNN. As for Jack Dorsey, he is part of Big Tech, so you cannot put trust in the man, granted the removal of decentralization and the one currency talk that has been mentioned for several years. Agenda 2030 will be problematic.

This is why it is wise to make due with the time that you have, in all things prior to End Time Tribulations. On the other side of the spectrum, in the religious space things are getting heated, mainly with what is going on as of recent.

I believe that was you, I only spoke to Linda James - evidence below You also began quite early, as seen below: As for your rehash of the topic, there are no translation errors in the verses mentioned SINCE there is no violation of text. It is more so a matter of if a word and or passage is in violation of the text or not, a single strong can have different words, and have different meaning depending on where it is use, however, if it is something totally different, as in the number, then you have a case. - A mic drop to that, case and point. There is no need to speak on the notation any further. This was dropped on the first page by@BroRando who quoted a CSE response concerning the subject matter.

It is in regards to this you saying Truthers have no heart. The point I made about you making a claim and shying away from is a true statement. Even outside of that, the same game was done yet again. You can't handle debates - truth, this is in regards to no attitude, it is truth. I can tell you this, I have been in many, many debates, granted CSE has its corner for debates and when I started, I made mistakes many, many times concerning history of Christianity, technically I was like you, it was only then I went to study up more, even told to do so because I was unable to handle the gravity of debates, and when I got back to debating months later, concerning the church and the Trinity and from there, I built off of that, years later, to present day, despite the fact I come from a heavy Biblical background, for the older I got, the serious I got about it. If an avid debater says you can't, just like how I was early on, it is truth. You need to do a lot more for the betterment for yourself if you seek debates, be in live, irl, forums, etc. How is it bullying if it is truth? You said not too long ago the following: This is why I said be careful of what you wish for, for, if we debated about Hermeneutics, Dietary Laws, etc. It will not end well. That is why I suggested to you do research on core teachings. Then you should not not brought up Romans 12:9, let alone what you said which had NO context. When I said this: You responded with this: Those in apostasy that roam in instances that spell disaster, even in the face of a faithful person, does not abhor what is bad. This is why the remark, by you, did not make any sense, hence why the question addressed. Haters of God do not cling to what is good, they cling to what is bad, and they target those who worship God constantly, but to the faithful man, he knows what persecution entails. Of course you see it as stupidity, but a wise man who attest to the truth. A wise man would not make an assumption without understanding. God's people, and his chosen would address the truth of the matter, even in the gospel ministry, also fact. That being said, I believe the task of examination should be done on your part, JB.

Because it is true. If it were not, it would not have been said. You are not someone who is equipped for a debate(s), especially if it is solely Bible based, so do not ask for something you know you cannot handle, mainly towards someone who started off from CSE and debated a lot there for a time (as with Trinitarians irl in the post Bible debate era) this is evident by the questions addressed earlier, which was not answered, although they were very obvious - for we know what the Bible speaks of concerning marriage. Wild accusations and an appeal of motive also shows you are not capable of such, for the last debate here concerning religious leadership and or seat of office, the focus was on the Bible, but the common theme I see is they need to interject JWs or the Watchtower. Even with finances regarding bonds, Solutions to aid children, or that of the United Nations, JWs/Watchtower is always invoked. So - be careful of what you wish for. I already have pity for the misguided because they do not know any better. That being said, a debate is the last thing you need, and such will be left at that. Receipts can be found, and some people act upon something that they say they would not do at times. Also be minimum discernment, you are an ExJW, thus it level you open to nearly everything, and more so, you do not deal with people who are at a certain level. But even outside of belief, you speak of such. This is evident with the Strong's itself, or the very Hermeneutics of Scripture, like here, concerning Hands/Wrists, where you jump to the Watchtower with a total disregard to Concordances and what was concluded in the crucifixion. We know by the concordances of what the Scriptures speaks of concerning those who or imprisoned, and how they are, as is with the way Jesus was handled. As stated, reading into things literally is problematic, which does not differ from the Trinitarians, Jehovah Warriors, KJV-Onlyist, who says Jesus is God because they see God mentioned close to the Messiah by name, when in reality, there is a distinction between God and Christ. Likewise with the nails being impaled into the Christ, we should look at the real meaning, as is historical depiction and the history of crucifixions as a whole, in this case, excluding the cross/stake notation since that isn't the focus. So what is their view on where the nail has been placed? It isn't different from the majority. If you want to talk about differences, there are those who take into account of dangers, and those that do not within Christianity. Just from your last response, this can be found concerning endurance and vigilance, of which the Bible states we must have. That being said, you made the biggest claim of this month concerning a community, who contributes everything for lost souls, you were called to tasked to answer, you shying away from it only proves the point made. Again, making a claim or an accusation about something of which you know nothing of is a huge mistake, and you never address you made a mistake most of the time. If you'd said that to said community in question, and the fact that you are a former Jehovah's Witness the reaction, for some of them will be colorful, mainly after what they contributed. I still wait on the claim though, so I did not forget about that, for that is quite damning of an accusation.

They're still active, granted when someone or a group is dedicated to the commission, regardless of how it is professed, it will not stop them, regardless of what is done or what has been taking place, this is evident by their number of members they currently have. They sit at 8.7-8.75 million now compared to last check in 2018 Prior to the pandemic, there were many, many people looking into the Bible, thus sought after groups thereafter. That being said, they're far from an elite club. The elites are the ones seeking interfaith, and have done so prior to the pandemic. Thus makes the One World Religion and what they will be doing very soon.

@Pudgy The Dog must be a time traveler, if he has a vest, and an AK-47. Also I've seen this picture before, for it is in the Middle East whereas Thessalonica of Greece; Thermaic Gulf of the Aegean Sea. That being said, now if Paul found a means of Time Traveler and is laying low not to change anything, that in of itself is a different campfire tale.

If you give into authoritarianism, higher education system , media, government, ruling classes, corrupt oligopoly, etc. Then that raises question. Even more evident when people give into the MSM. Simple questions can easily deduced said folks, regardless if you are in the US or the EU.

Because of how he can get a reaction out of you, and equates all JWs to be alike. He did not only do this with you, but to others, we the had the one instance with the JW teen, another with Allen, etc. - thus having a broken perception of things. That being said, I, as do some, deal with such persons constantly, one sided, mainly when they know their err and soon expound on accusations without evidence or merit. Which is pretty much a shame, and downright embarrassing. All in all, it proves the point made many, many times.

I believe they're still doing that, but the pandemic can take it's toll on people, as is with the media and above it, the powers that be. It can get to some people, granted younger folks, due to the fact the higher education system are also a drive in this fear. Mainly for the fact in some instances, as a addressed in the past, 1st amendment can be effected and or the Bible being since as hate speech, with people pressing that idea. The way I see it, the pandemic is like that of the first level off of a game, for example, Super Mario Bros, easy first world then you get to Bowser, then it gets progressively harder and harder as you progress through the worlds. Likewise, from the start of the pandemic we see how things played out, eventually it will come to a point of difficulty, i.e. no jab, no job at a grander scale. This is also like a precursor for when The End Time Tribulations start, of how we react, and what decisions and actions will be taken. That being said, A.I. and robotics are coming along, some of which are patrolling people during the pandemic. Possibly more lockdowns, mainly with what is taking place in the EU. The gospel of what is to come, mainly to those who keep to it, will have that message strengthen them, but still one needs to be careful, as for some, only a small number of folks are immune to the spread of fear and the like via MSM.

As we say in the Truther community for those in power, and all those in the ruling class. Rules for Thee, but not for me. 500 people, at a birthday party, in a multi-million dollar mansion in a predominantly white neighborhood in Martha's vineyard, with famous people present, in a state where restrictions are at an extreme. Elsewhere the Chicago party was enjoying a rock concert while Chicago is in suffering, as is with threatening New Lockdowns. Majority of Americans deal with enduring economical hardships that they have never dealt with before. All communities are effected, from financial, gaming, etc. Everyone is getting hit directly and indirectly by what is taking place, mainly for those in said communities that have families all the while children will eventually read into an artificial history produced by those in power by means of the higher education system.

Cancel Culture will come for you if that is the case. They've been deleting and deplatforming people since the pandemic, even more since January 6th, to add their own narrative, re-writing history, and soon interjecting it into the higher education system, even going as far as to, wanting to dance at the graves of people who do not agree with them, which is insane. Media and social media deems anyone a threat if you do not align with their narrative of the pandemic, and you can easily get marked for cancellation, which in turn, can ruin your life, even your livelyhood, something of which Vice and the Dailybeast, teamed up with The Young Turks, is attempting with someone right now - to deplatform, cancel, erase history in regards to the individual; for they're doing this because they are disgruntled and using the pandemic and Jan. 6th as a weapon. Eslewhere, Alex Johns, was actually right on something, yet the MSM claim he lied, again this speaks volume. So you'll have to tread carefully as to why you say, and what you do, even link in some platforms, mainly on social media. Even the CDC needs to be viewed with skepticism, mainly after what they said: Yet..... The vaccinated have become Trojan Horses, breakthrough spreaders. Misinformation drives all people into ruin. That being said, the whole vaccine thing is up to a person's personal choice, no one should be pressed for their medical records, HIPPA comes into question which many ignore, even the media. But the whole fear factor thing is a powerful tool, and no one is immune to it if they get caught up into it, like that of a vortex you have to fight your way out of, as mentioned already to Thinking and in the other thread, JWs are in subjection to this, as with most. AS for the jokesters, and the misguided souls out there, even on this forums, they will get hit by this even harder, especially those in the EU, Germany is a foreshadowing of what is to come on their soil.

Yes, even Jehovah's Witnesses aren't immune from what the media is spreading throughout the TV and social media. A lot of young JWs utilize social media. The powers can use anything at their disposal, even a snippet of fear and division, and pour it out to ALL groups, as is ALL faiths, even those who are irreligious, they were able to do this with even children, which is amplified by the higher education system teaching CRT and a means to cause division among children, teens and young adults, something of which no one found out about until recently. Whenever a government aided power has a crisis on their hands, they can expel more power and authoritarian action among the people. There are those who did take a stand, it is liken to your stance on blood transfusion, which, because of the Pandemic, you not accepting a transfusion can no longer be an argument against you. It is also one of those reasons as to why Alt Left and Right media no longer press JWs about blood, moreover, Ambrosia resurfaced and the situation with the black markets went up after what was discovered in China. Another thing is, while everyone is distracted, various things are taking place in the background, which will eventually lead to more panic buying, people moving out of the cities, etc. If you haven't noticed, Seeds have been bought up and or removed from stores, which raises the question as why seeds are being prohibited from the public in some areas? That being said, power and fear can cause people to buckle, some, who are so enticed by the MSM as often fall in line and follow what is told to them as if they are an Empire based Stormtrooper under Order 66. Satan is like a mix of Batman villains. Cunning for if not one scheme gets you, the other one can put you in between a rock and a hard place directly or indirectly. So you have to be really really strong in this type of situation, mainly due to the fact it is going to get much worse, hitting 1984ish-Bob Page levels as we speak. I see this often quoted by some, which is true with the powers that be.

It is tragic, and the thing is a do not like the fact the stereotypes of religious folks of a former faith is often proven right by Muslims and Christians of CSE, but that is the reality. It is known of what Apostasy can lead into, hence the instances mentioned, and not seeing that is a total disregard to what the Bible says about being vigilant and enduring, not not succumbing to misinformation, hence the mention of the smurf woman who has wild accusations that caught the attention of JWs and ExJWs alike. Other then that, the facts stand firm even in the face of the misguided. Ultimately his own comments resulted in his misgivings, mainly the verse used for the wrong reasons. That being said, even in regards to the crucifixion of the Christ, that in of itself can be weaponized by some, even apostasy. For there are many who look at the Scriptures in regards to the fact Jesus was most likely hung up with nails via his wrist, granted the weight of the body comes into question a lot - which is why the majority leans towards wrists. As pointed out if it was his hands, then the weight would eventually drag down his hands and start tearing away his flesh, mainly with the anatomy of the hands, it wouldn't hold Jesus up long enough, especially after when he expired. The problem here is in the Bible when people see the word hands, they come to a literal conclusion, granted hands can mean any part of the hand and or wrist/forearm, etc. An example of this is Acts 12:7 Peter was imprisoned and later freed by an Angel, the Angel removed the cuffs from his hands, but as we can look into this with context, the cuffs were on his wrists, likewise with anyone bounded by their feet, whereas their bound is on their ankles, not actually on their feet (Acts 16:24); bringing us to Paul, as is Silas in Philippi, Acts 16:25-31: 25. Just the words hands alone in the concordances along have meanings depending on where it is used. All in all, in regards to Jesus' death, the focus should have been on why he died, if we are to speak of Jesus' death, the sole focus is in regards if it was a cross or a stake, something of which is the primary focus of most besides the hand/wrists and nails, etc. as is with it being highly debated. There are a lot of depictions of Jesus being hung up, and the majority shows him hanging up with the nails driven through his wrists - Be it an image of him on a cross, a stake, or even a tree. Some imaged examples, images are depictions of Peter and Paul, as is one including Silas.

Perhaps because they are attempting to stamp out "misinformation" as they claim? The media has been pressing this for weeks on end. Misinformation has caught the eye of many, even faith communities, because they haven't heard the other side of the story. Trying to soften up the people. Crazy how because of the pandemic everything seems one sided, yet when the other side speaks, instant deplatforming. @TrueTomHarley A crash of an unusual kind is coming very soon due to the pandemic and in the Truther community talk about the zombie tax, which in turn will destroy businesses and family's means of living, so much so, you even have the fitness community becoming preppers. Meanwhile, the rich and wealth party in luxury as the people suffer. My recommendation is, it is wise to take in more information on said facts at times because Facebook and other forms of media have been removing things along with YouTube. Facebook and YouTube all have it's dangers for no area in social media is pure let alone clean. Twitter especially. That being said, there is a chance of Covid-19 pills and more dosages on the horizon. Children will most likely be subjected to this and more people who were hit indirectly will be showing their true colors, or as the folks say, this is what happens when the US turns Blue, so to speak. Also someone mentioned Bill Gates... Not much of a fan, I look at him with skepticism.

Like I said, if you are going to make a claim about something, do not make assumptions otherwise it would be problematic, and we can see when called out about it or zeroing in on your own claim, you react the way you do, and make remarks to dodge your own words. Everyone knows if one alienates themselves from God, especially in this manner, they do not have love in them or cling to what is good, mainly for those who show no remorse for their actions. This is why it was wrong of you to attest to Romans 12:9 ;granted you didn't even know the meaning behind the quotation I said; in my response to @TrueTomHarley because Alienation reaps instances of disaster, hence those questions addressed to you in red and blue, we know what the Bible says in regards to this things, marriage should be between a man and a woman, homosexuality is sin, war destroys lives, etc. People who cling to badness, do not have love in them, or have that of what is good in God's Word, hence why Ephesians 4:18 was appropriate because it correlates with not what was said, but the current situation of things regarding Christians and haters of God. Truthers do have heart for the longest of time, again do not make an accusation if you can't back it up; mainly if you have no knowledge of that such entails. Because there are things of which such has found that would put you into shock. And there I will rest it, for one's ignorance of the term; thus the talk of misinformation and the lack of understanding, let alone the very reason Truther always coin the MSM misleading the general public, let alone take pride in looking for missing persons, such as children. This isn't an argument, my response was towards Tom and only him in regards to Apostasy, but you interjected with some narratives that do not even connect with hat was conveyed. A lesson you do not learn from and you continue to do such things. Correction - it does matter what the enemy is doing, hence the UN and the events of 2016/2017 and onward, i.e. those who were pleasing God were taken by Babylon in Washing some years ago, and they were not vigilant compared to most. The Christians wiped out were in the thousands, all taken into the Temple of Babylon, even a few Jehovah's Witnesses, current and former. This is why Proverbs 22:3 is vital, as is with being enduring, watchful, and vigilant in the last days of the End Times and continously pray to God, and adhere to the commission. We have to be aware of the danger of Babylon and the Beast otherwise we fall victim to it. Strong Christians, although some do not know 100% of the inner workings of the Beast and the Harlot, they do everything they must to evade being taken away, likewise with those who are alienated from God and what they have been doing thus far. You do not see that because you seem confined to a single space. The Bible teaches us the danger of God's adversary and what we must avoid, things we have to do to strengthen ourselves, and the like. Because even the smallest of err can swing someone into the Devil's favor, thus becoming a drifter and a pawn to that of Babylon and the Beast, especially during these times of the pandemic, which the powers that be are using to scare people. That being said, not only an examination must be executed on your part, but you need to actually open your eyes, as I told you before when you went by the name JB. Anyways as for the subject matter - https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/19649/when-jesus-was-nailed-to-the-cross-did-the-nails-go-through-his-hands-or-throug/19651#19651

@xero Vaccinations is up to the choice of the individuals (also recommended to speak to your doctor), be it a man, woman or child, however, it seems people are pressing with fear to get the numbers up (death toll was abandoned by the MSM because Donald J. Trump is no longer in power). Truthers called it years ago that a crisis will enable the media and the government to reap and use said powers, all it took was a pandemic which resulted in the state of the Western world and the rest of the globe. Some can't take it due to Religious Reasons, and or being against their faith or they can't take it at all due to medical issues. The irony here is that one of the children I helped out mentioned a game his older brother played that spoke of a virus and a pandemic, and in this game as to how the situation has been dividing the people and cause a panic among ALL groups. Thus is sparks a segregation of the general public in some parts, for in the past, whites and blacks were subjected to segregation, but like in this game the kid mentioned to me, you have people segregated by their augmentations, IRL, the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. That being said, the US and their allies, France, United Kingdom, etc. are pressing for vaccinations. Germany recently joined the bandwagon in this regard. Concerning COVID-19 there is a LOT going on in the background that isn't being mentioned in articles and the media. Aside from "Vaccinated Only" signs, arrests, etc. Especially breakthrough cases of the Vaccinated folk who are now dub'd Trojan Horses, which is rarely spoken about in the media. As is with suffering children. They use to clown Truthers about Booster Shots last year, and now they suggest Booster Shots and COVID-19 Pills. As I and Kosenen have brought up, they're going to make things harder and harder for you so you submit to a medical procedure. A recent assassination was also speculate due to rejection of vaccinations, and ironically cases went out in said country, as is with their neighbors, who were subjected to mixed dosages, which can also become a reality in the US and EU. Although it as nothing to do with the Mark of the Beast as some claim, it can be seen as a foreshadowing of the things to come, the events prior to the Endgame, mainly with the agenda of the United Nations slowly coming to fruition. As I mentioned in another thread, the wave that is to come, some people will be wept away by it, for their own assumption spells their demise, which proves Proverbs 22:3, and all similar verses to it not being applied.