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  1. 11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    @TrueTomHarley please tell me , Are You a Prophet? :))

    The answer is yes.

    As stated before, Christians are prophets.

    Proclaiming the message of God's Kingdom, the Great Commission, the New Covenant, spreading the truth of what the Bible teaches, passing on said wisdom of the Scriptures to the young so they to their children. Such things are to be taken seriously for the teachings has been commanded in regards to spreading it. As Christians we should not fail what Jesus commanded, we should push to spread the gospel until the Most High sends Jesus a second time to right the wrongs of the viral taint spread out by the one who conquers this world.

    You have a choice, you either get on this Ark, or remain there out in the open. God has given us free will and as Christians we use our time and resources to serve and religiously worship him for he was the one who sent his son, Jesus, whom he made Christ, to provide amnesty by means of giving his life for us.

     

    That being said, you can joke around here with us, for we are but flesh, bone and water, but best be knownest to you, Srecko, you cannot joke with God. For there is both life and death before you - and I hope you pick wisely, for the choice of these two isn't the same as picking what chips you want from a vendor machine.

  2. 1 minute ago, JW Insider said:

    That you are not Muslim.

    Yes, I am not. However when someone speaks ill or slander them, although not a Muslim, I will correct people on their views. Namely the whole situation with children in the battlefield, and the Prophet, Uhud. When people slander, to some we see it as a taint. People need to speak up in order to correct others, although at times, the one who is the truther in this sense may make error on his or her words and or suddenly go blank.

    When it comes to what a cult actually is, we have to know what is actually a cult and what is not. Now for your faith community, people deem you as a cult due to, the core faith, of the only God being the Father, whereas others would brand you because you do not believe Jesus is God. And it is put the surface from there. This is why the lot of us raise up to slander, especially in the face of what a lot of us have a disdain for, the very doctrine that has ruined what Jesus' church was all about.

    It is one thing for someone to be unaware and ignorant, but willfulness and all knowing of it? Such one will be burned and rinsed in refutation.

  3. 6 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    Things like this are a good test of peoples' integrity.  

    ESPECIALLY when the test has a simple YES or NO answer, and they are aware that they will answer to Almighty God, for lying.  Honest questions deserve honest answers, and unless life or liberty are at stake, are appropriate.

    Especially in a discussion room where credibility is so very important ... as we are casually discussing life and death matters.

    We should always be seeking answers, we should not be quick to dwell upon slander as if and believe it as a truth.

    That being said, when it comes to cults, there are real ones out there. One namely being that Jesus came back as a woman, and should you not take that doctrine, consequence will follow. I do not think anyone is unaware of those knowing what the Church of God actually is.

  4. @JOHN BUTLER And yet months ago we see were you align yourself, remember Mr. Gardener, he is among many who professed that JWs claim the world would end in 1975, and has not only garnered a community, but profits and the like from such ones who follow him. His community is a mix of ExJWs, ExMuslims, Atheists, and a list of others, as is with like-minded focus target Christians. Ironically enough, some among them are the same ones that would defend Christians who claim inspiration, vocally and verbally, but yet when they make their error they only get a pat on the back.

  5. @JW Insider Some would also claim I am Muslim for speaking the truth of them as well. What I find very infuriating is the fact that people push slander as a truth when there is ample evidence to to shine a light on their error. Any man or woman can have their corrals with a group, however, to push a slander will commit people to speak up and call out their wrongs.

  6. 10 hours ago, Witness said:

    “Debunk” – to prove that something such as an idea or belief is false and silly.

     

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    It wasn’t falsely “debunked” until the expectations of the organization never were fulfilled.  It was then that the responsibility of believing in a scam fell on the shoulders of the members, even though it was the "serious students of the Bible" who believed 1975 to be an important date.  I would guess the most serious of "serious students" would be the leaders who approved of printing the article.  

    A collage of expectations:

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    Yes, it has been debunked, and I had given evidence to such by means of said sources in which you were refuted on before as with others. Nothing here is a claim of them stating the world will end at 1975, therefore, such remains unfounded.

  7. 12 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    Many Jehovah's Witnesses did believe that Armageddon was happening in 1975

    Give us a quote of them claiming that the end of the world was 1975.

    I gave evidence, even from an agnostic that proves you and others were in the wrong.

    Also it should be noted that some JWs had a misunderstanding of things hence began the spread.

    12 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    Despite what SM and others may say.  SM wasn't and isn't a JW. He just uses info he finds. 

    The information and citations I use are legitmate fact and truth, which overwrites word of mouth claims and the like in which you and others had professed.

    If the claim that they stated 1975 would be the end, I wanna here it from someone, you have the spotlight John, let's have it.

    12 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    My own brother is an Elder and was a JW from the 1960's onward. He personally knows, or knew at that time, people that sold their houses, gave up businesses, and did full time ministry. He has related to me, of cases whereby people were almost suicidal with worry, because they had given up everything in a material sense, so when it didn't happen they were penniless and some were homeless. 

    Which goes back to what I had said here and months ago. Some JWs misunderstood and did as they did while others did not, this was pointed out by the Agnostic as is with other sources, one of said sources of someone being there that day and knew this among their own faith community.

    There was a reason why ExJws flagged the Agnostic's video to be removed from YouTube because he spoke the truth.

    12 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

    The Org may not have put it into print, but they deliberately spread the rumours about it happening. 

    They did not spread the rumors, according to legitimate source.

    In an example: If I said Iran was going to do something terrible to anger the United States, some people among the fold will think that what I said was Iran is going to attack the US (ATTACK), and others will think I said that Iran is going do something to defend their land from the US, which is actually angering the US (DEFEND). Venezuela is also another example.

    Despite what I said, there will be two groups of people that will draw their conclusion from what I had said, with one group pushing the slander and engineering something of their own design. And clearly two sides will be butting heads.

    This is likewise with with the whole situation about 1975.

    That being said, the latter in blue is actually true vs. what the MSM is preaching, which is in red. The WW III horn is tooting again. Always a lot of blood and lives for an old man's political war for oil.

  8. 8 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

    The "two witness" rule that the watchtower forces upon victims of child abuse in its' organisation is tantamount to turning a blind eye.

    As if an abuser is going to abuse kids in front of 2 or witnesses?!

     

    It was debunked here as to what that rule actually is.

     

    To quote myself:

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    The article goes on to say, it directed NBC News to its "scripturally based position on child protection," a two-page document on its website that intersperses Biblical references with denouncements of child abuse and outlines how the congregation aims to protect its children, and it says the following: "When elders learn of an accusation of child abuse, they immediately consult with the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses to ensure compliance with child abuse reporting laws. (Romans 13:1) Even if the elders have no legal duty to report an accusation to the authorities, the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses will instruct the elders to report the matter if a minor is still in danger of abuse or there is some other valid reason," says one bullet point in the document.

    And

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    Now, they've mentioned the whole Two Witness Ruling the faith group has and according to NBC they stated the following: one that requires two witnesses to a crime to prove guilt, a tenet that's in keeping with the Witnesses' strict, often literal interpretation of the Bible.

    There is more to it and not much is known when people do not do the research.

    We already know Jehovah's Witnesses are Restorationist, meaning they take the Bible seriously, for Restorationism, also described as Christian primitivism, is the belief that Christianity has been or should be restored along the lines of what is known about the apostolic early church, which restorationists see as the search for a more pure and more ancient form of the religion. Fundamentally, "this vision seeks to correct faults or deficiencies (in the church) by appealing to the primitive church as a normative model." according to The Encyclopedia of the Stone-Campbell Movement: Christian Church (Disciples of Christ).

    As for their rule, to them, their policy of  states: "When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. For this is based in Deuteronomy 19:15 and reaffirmed in Matthew 18:15-17.

    From this alone, it should be noted that this two witness ruling has nothing to do with whether the alleged abuse is reported to the authorities, despite what some people even NBC is led to believe, for we have to thank the ARC to better clarify this rule the WT has. For even though they have this policy and or ruling, even in their books and publications  never state that abuse or crime should not be reported unless there are two witnesses to the crime, case and point.

    The two witness rule as applied by Jehovah's Witnesses and their church is only applied to determine if a judicial committee should be formed to handle any form/type of sin and or wrongdoing within the JW church itself, hence internally criminally, for JWs are not Law Enforcement. WT pastors also send letters to the elders and stewards of their church to show that anyone is free to report child abuse to the authorities at any time without sanctions from the church, even encouraging such reporting.

    But again, people who do not do the research themselves will constantly say that this is bad policy since child molesters usually do not attack their target with others around, such also are lead to believe that and or even profess that this ruling protects the abuser and not the abused. Granted JWs take the Bible both seriously and literally, such ruling stems from the Bible itself, regarding them, for they, and or the bible, according to how this ruling is, repeatedly speaks of the need for two witnesses to establish any matter, as seen in a few verses for example: Matthew 18:16, 2 Corinthians 13:1,  and 1 Timothy 5:19.

    And because of this like this, people tend to throw things out the window, even calling these Bible  and passages like these obscure and not applicable in these modern times - for they forget that Jehovah's Witnesses, are Restorationist, for Restorationist do everything in their power to separate themselves from mainstream Christendom and align themselves with the how everything was done in the early church, thus taking scripture literally, therefore they, the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that it is best for them to follow the words of the son of God and the inspired apostle Paul rather than the opinions of others, hence their strong stance.

    So the fact of the matter is, many people, even NBC, do not realize just what the two witness ruling entails without making the research. Others may know but they don't want you to know and just so they try to hide just who or what can serve as two witnesses, in this sense.

    With all these facts, it is unscriptural to apply excommunication an individual at the mouth of one witness, in terms of ruling, for God's word should take precedent over the thinking of imperfect ones. Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, applying the two witness ruling, on their part, is reasonable and logical, and clearly not to otherwise deny the Bible itself.

    The situation is a bit different regarding a single witness, but a bit of research one can actually understand it.

    Also it should be noted that even such ruling is even practiced by those of law if I am not mistaken.

    And I doubt you have a care for children yourself. As it shows here by your comment for you have nothing good to say in regard to teaching children. The children I know, the children I teach, they've been talked about regarding mental illness, suicide, about sex, about a list of other things. In the same sense we teach them about strangers, we teach them about these things so they can look out for themselves and for others. Wisdom is key. With it it allows said child and or children to become stronger in this sense, and it helps for us to reach to better solutions to increase prevention of stuff such as child abuse and a list of others.

    Do yourself a favor, how about you educate the people on how to prevent, for clearly you do not have the experience that I have granted by your response.

     

    Now, let's put you to the test, 1 John 4:1, this is a situation with one teenager I helped, who has not relapsed for about a year now.

    Since the age of 8, this child was thrown into the world of pornography and masturbation and evidently it pushed him to eventually be addicted to it, and later on in life began to see and think of sex in a bad way. This caused him to think badly and have inappropriate thoughts of every girl he sees, he even states every woman he sees. He cannot escape this for even images and ads, commercial show such things that triggers him to go into sexual immorality in an instant. After he relapsed from his addiction he feels guilt and he says whenever he did this, his mind was blank, he also stated that sometimes he tries to think of the good things he did, friends and family to prevent him from doing what he is doing, but as stated, his mind goes blank. This person is now 19 years of age, and with what I did and what his family did helped him out, for in my case, my own brother, God fearing like me, had issues with pornography in the past, and I lost a friend to suicide because of pornography when people began spreading her image and face all over the internet. I will not tell you what was done to help the teen, but I ask you, if you really cared about children then what would you have done?

    What would have been the approach on your part when dealing with someone who is in too deep in this addiction that seems to be one of the greatest folly of man?

    That being said, if you have nothing really to contribute in terms of teaching and helping children then keep silent.

     

  9. @Jesus.defender And it proves nothing..... The world knows now that the Trinity is nothing more than a doctrine coined and termed by a man whom you deem an Arian. And it has been revealed that even your own admits that some of the verse that you use were slanders.

    Hypocrisy has no place in the Kingdom of God.

     

  10. 2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Here is where absurdities can be found, among other places: 

    "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

    But nothing here shows a claim of inspiration. No utterance of them claiming to be inspired, in fact, no history of any Restorationist claiming to be inspired. Therefore, your claim is an absolute absurdity.

    It would have held more merit to it if you can bring up actual claim by the Restorationist faith claiming inspiration, but that is neigh impossible therefore you would have to slander and make things up when those who are strong in discernment can see though that lie.

    Restorationist however, do believe that what they are doing aligns with God's will and purpose though.

    That being said, Witness I believe used this same quote and left out other parts to it, in which you are doing now. Why may I ask? And you haven't answered as to what you have been coined to question.

    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Dear friend SM, Why you are defending WTJWORG when you are not part of them? I represent my opinions as mine, right or wrong or semi-right and semi-wrong. :)) 

    I speak against lies. If someone claims someone else claimed inspiration when there is no fact and or truth to that claim, I will refute. You say this because still to this day you cannot even bring up them actually claiming to be inspired, therefore, the loop-de-loop and mental gymnastic games being played by you.

    You can trick a fool and a simpleton with that nonsense, but not someone who actually studies the Bible, religion and the history of Christendom. That being said, you are no different than the charlatan who defended the Kairos pastor, Kenneth Copeland after I refuted him, and another woman with absolute truth and fact.

    Ironically enough, you ignored the quote about Prophets, why?

    2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    You joined to opinions that are your's or from someone else. Where we going with this? To mental gymnastic :)) 

    If you didn't know that Christians are also prophets and spin it into something else, then it shows on your part. To not know this, to not the know the Bible or what a Christian actually is, I state a again when it comes to hypocrisy, I call em like I see em.

    Now then I asked you 2 direct questions, best you answer them if you believe your own word and claim, coupled with your unfounded claim of inspiration in regards to Restorationism. I can tell you this, should we bring a agnostic, a Muslim, etc. into this, they can see through your claim that holds no truth.

  11. @Jesus.defender It was debunked that they never claimed the world would end in 1975, evidence of this was posted before and I was able to salvage sources from an Agnostic video that ExJWs voted off the platform of YouTube. You should change your name, for Jesus would never use slander to commit it as a truth, hypocrite.

  12. @Srecko Sostar 

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    lol "Biblical Unitarian"... Know the difference. Now you are pulling the same tricks that Butler pulled when he assumed all Unitarians are aligned with the interfaith, I suggest you try again.

    And by the by: That was the same link Butler used, now I ask you, why on God's earth would support the interfaith when time and time I spoke against it? and Second, I believe that Jesus PRE-EXISTED. 

    Your source, as I had told Butler who used that same source, is utterly stupid.

  13. 1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    That is a WHOLE different issue.

    There are cults that are harmless .... and cults that are dangerous.

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    You missed the goalpost yet again. Dare I ask, do you even know what a cult is? In all honesty you are partly correct, there are harmful ones and ones that harm, the one I had in mind is a mix of both that, again, has scarred people.

    So going with what OH said, and I to you, what defines and or is a cult?

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  14. On 6/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    Thanks for comment, but I disagree :))

    But the Bible in all it's context says otherwise. Therefore, the Bible holds fact and truth over your opinion and or feelings of which we had done last time along with the so called anointed one.

    On 6/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    Every Prophet must be "Inspired" for reason to be called A Prophet. If he is not then he is Not a Prophet. In this context when using word Prophets, i guess, is about Bible Prophesies. And as such, Bible Prophets was Inspired by JHVH. Every True Bible Prophets was INSPIRED by JHVH, as they state. But every False Bible Prophets was also Inspired. Don't you think the same? Question is by who? By devil spirit or by Own spirit?

    Ever prophet? There are Prophets mentioned in the Bible, both inspired and not inspired, i.e. many of the early Christians, especially those who converted to Christendom.

    Context? You spoke none. If anything, what I am seeing is someone who does not know what a Prophet actually is.

    And your point? Why completely railroad Christians who are the ones who speak God's Word also? If they are essentially prophets who have the holy spirit on them, why say otherwise?

    Bible Prophets? Did you not just say you do not agree? Last I checked, prophets before Jesus did not have a "Bible". Even after Jesus, the Christians knew the teachings, and later on for us, said teachings were coupled into the book known as the Bible, or as some would say, The Good Book.

    Yes there are false prophets and teachers out there, but they are not inspired. Some will even claim to be, like every pastor of Kairos. Despite this, no Christian, who are deemed prophets, are inspired at all, again, you were refuted on this point twice.

    And no, I made the distinction several times to you already, why would I think if I made the point clear even by means of using the Bible strongly? The fact you uttered that shows you greatly lack and I doubt you've been reading the Bible in order to understand it otherwise, you would not be this dumbfounded on what a prophet is.

    It is evident of who is actually spirit led and who is it not. Your own question can be thrown back at you for you speak of by whose spirit. Dare I ask, if we are to go back on your claim about God and those who change their sex, what spirit was leading you in your claim of God being okay with such? Clearly, not God's spirit.

    On 6/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    Perhaps such person (Christians in general) is just someone Who Repeat Other People Words. And if he, in this repeating of Old Prophets Words going Further, to Let Say: Interpret Prophet's Words by giving Explanation and Time of fulfillment or Way how Words would/will be Fulfilled... than such person or Christians or Organization or Church is .... what?  

    I suggest you look into what a "Christian" is because it seems you lack in this domain of what that term means. Allow me to spare you the trouble.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christian

    On 6/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    ..... Spirit Led?? :))

    You, Witness and Butler were slammed on this, and to thiose outside of this forum, to quote them "made fools out of..."

    I will bring this up again so you better understand regarding what the Bible itself professes.

    I quoted this to the 3 of you before and I will do it again:

    An inspired prophet possesses the miraculous gift of prophesy, inspired and infallible utterance and predictions, as proof they are having the Holy Spirit, of which we can see with Elijah and Elisha - you also already mentioned Moses, who is an inspired Prophet who does indeed have the miraculous gifts. For this is 1 of 9 miraculous gifts that is of the spirit, manifestations of the spirit and is indeed infallible as can be read in the Scriptures itself 1 Corinthians 12:8-10, Luke 4:18 and Romans 3:1, 2for example.

    A normal, Spirit led Prophet who is clearly not inspired and not infallible have the gifts of the spirit regarding prophesying. It is regarded as dominant, the ability for one to profess in spreading the good news gospel of the Kingdom and the Messianic Age of the coming Christ, such of which gives evidence of the holy spirit's role as seen in Scripture, Matthew 24:14, Luke 4:18, Acts 2:18, 19 and Romans 12:6-8. Such ones with spiritual gifts have that is of what is cultivated, or cultivated gifts as some would say.

    An inspired prophet's message is inspired, like that of a breathe of God himself, therefore infallible. God is the primary source of the message and the author of the message granted the Word came from him. The written work itself in it's original form is both sacred and inspired. As the verses,

    • 2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

    For prophets inspired by God have verbal communication through even that of angels, visions that puts forth God's message to those who hear it, they have dreams or night visions that is seen by them even in their sleep, and can convey a message even by means of a trance, other times through songs of praise that contribute to a prophet receiving communication that is divine (Exodus 9:1; Amos 3:3-8; Jonah 3:1, 2)

    A prophet that isn't inspired and is not infallible in the message knows isn't the author of anything other than the Bible, they recognize that what they produce is of their own design but remain faithful to the Scriptures in of itself, this includes ALL Bible Translations because none of the translators or transliteratiors are not inspired, the very reason that most, if not all, tend to make revisions after revisions, example like you not knowing (but have used already) what the TR 1245 is and unaware that all translations, even that of JWs, have been revised, thus omitting anything related to the TR 1245, hence my clear view and adherence on Textual Criticism.

    A not inspired prophet, or in this case, a normal prophet is encouraged by God's Word, if not, even moved by it. They show and express a genuine love for God and are moved to take action, just as those of old and our church fathers have. They are guided by God by means of influence and thinking, and our speech as with actions by means of the power of His Spirit and His Word, as can be evident by Matthew 13:11, 24:14.

    On 6/21/2019 at 1:23 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    As I said in preamble, we can speaking (for now) about 3 sort of spirit: divine, demonic and human. AND ALL THREE have the same quality, they can INSPIRE. And by that reason when GB of WTJWORG said how they are not Inspired, they said wrong. Because they are Inspired ... by some of this three spirits, and also in variation of influence made by this three spirits on people in one Organization.

    Now you are going off into a mental gymnastic firestorm coupled with some mash potatoe'd absurdities. Where in the Bible have you drawn up this crayon of a conclusion?

    They never were inspired, or have they claimed to be. I ask you and Witness to show me the claim of which both of you professed before, and all I received was radio silence. I say this many times, JWs are Restorationist. Not Restorationist Christian in their right mind would EVER claim bring inspired, they'd take that with them to Sheol too. Plus it would not make sense vs. those who claim inspiration and say they can see visions and the like, i.e. seeing men, women and children burning in hell when such is not come into God's heart and no man can have visions, if so, it is not of God, but of demons. More so, it would go against as to why such ones be it organized religion and or a lone person of Restorationism stand for.

    3 spirits? So what is this now? New Age influence sprinkled with some doctrines from groups the mainstream and those outside of Christendom? Srecko, if you truly read the Bible, and if you understood things, such comments will never come from you and it makes you easy to discern, to refute and thrown about.

    That being said, if you still, to this day, cannot comprehend what the Bible teaches, what passages mean in full context, etc. Why even read if you refuse to understand it? To be very honest and lite, it makes you fit the bill of that of a hypocrite. Now a days, to quote a party loving turtle, I call em like I see em now because the lack and twisting of the Scripture, is indeed jarring to the eyes and something has to be done, like as we can see here.

  15. Just now, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    Very simple.

    "A cult is the church down the street from YOUR church."

    And yet you missed the goalpost on what a cult is. Think harder, Rook, look into what it actually is. I say this because this is coming from someone who is aware of a very strong cult that has plagued Hispaniola, leaving quite the scar in a grim fashion.

  16. If anyone is in this area, and or know someone in this area, San Francisco, spread the word. It was encouraged by members of the community to spread this out further over forums and social media and or by any means as I am doing here.

    The sister of The Star Wars Girl, Ellen (22), has been missing for about 5 days now.

    It is already known I am not too trusting of popular social media sites, but regarding this situation which could be very serious, this is the older sister's twitter: https://twitter.com/thatstarwarsgrl?lang=en

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  17. I'd like to add that another thing we must talk to our children about is suicide, as well as mental illness. To be brief, either of these isn't an easy subject to talk about, especially regarding the age of said child, and where they are in terms of wisdom and understanding. I say this because someone of blood nearly took her life several weeks ago due to some dark and wick things from the islands coupled with brutality manifested here in the states nearly led to the teenager's death. She is doing better now, but my reason for bringing this up is because some else whom I have had an somewhat brief encounter with succumb to suicide. Although he was an adult, but it still stings, and in my case, it brings up a friend of mine who took her life due to influence from pornography and the adult industry who took her. Regarding of who had succumb to his inner demons, mental illness and the temptation of being in and seeking the spotlight is a bad combination. Despite such things, it bolsters my faith in Yahweh and his only beget whom he made the Christ, Jesus. Because by means of God through Jesus, there will be a resurrection.

  18. On 6/21/2019 at 2:03 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

    The things that you mentioned are more about the content of the doctrines. @Outta Here made specific list about methods of influence on people or on a group of people that is/can be used in variation of intensity and models. 

    The last time I was very specific in this regard, you deleted a thread or two with evidence to claim. Need I bring such up again with your quotes will only sully the tracks of which you wiped clean from the digital pavement.

    That being said, if you do not know what a cult is, I suggest looking into it starting with elementary sources.

     

    So far, not but one is ever clear on this matter.

  19. @John Houston The deserter tends to repeat himself, with the same nonsense as last time. Easily refutable.

    @Matthew9969 Restorationist are not Trinitarians and that setup is rather stale compared to what Atheists already call us because of the silliness of Trinitarianism. Christians regardless of how they view even JWs, always and will ever defend actual truth about God and his Son, and as seen here, we know whose side someone is representing, which adds more fuel to what is already brought up at Hyde.

     

    @Jesus.defender  You posted this stuff last time - everything you mentioned had been refuted. But this is understanable, Trinitarian has been at it's deathbed at the beginning of 2015, and absurdities such as yours shows how much of the Trinity doctrine is dying, as is with it being surpassed by Christian minorities and the likes of Islam, that is, more evident in the EU.

    That being said, Trinitarian scholars admit that they've been lying a lie due to using Bible errors as proof of Jesus being God until some of the most prominent among you admitted, as is with others to such. It is over.

     

    Real Christians will and always will defend the truth about God and his Son, as with what has been dealt with in regards to you already.

  20. On 6/16/2019 at 10:02 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    About five or so years before the Twin Towers went down ... I was offered a job there, and turned it down, as I viewed it as a fire hazard that could not be escaped from without a fast opening parachute, and a 12 gauge shotgun with solid lead slugs, to shoot out a window ( It takes about 400 feet to get line stretch on the suspension lines of a parachute ...). and even then, survival would have been problematic.

    I miss the money ... but not being dead.

     

    As long as you have an income to support yourself and family, you are good. You'd be surprise that some folk out there would break every bone in their body willfully just to flaunt cash around. And there is a lot of people like this.

    Life itself is more valuable than money. You can lose money at any time and get something, big or small back anytime, but for life, once it is loss, it cannot be received again until God's Will is realized, until then, that no 1-UP mushrooms for any of us.

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