Foreigner

Only if you mistakenly had faith and confidence that I was telling you the truth, and that I knew what I was talking about.
Fantasies can be disregarded ... if you have discovered and know them to actually be fantasies ... and nobody is threatening to destroy your family if you do not believe them.

What name does the WT use for their baptisms?

Yes. And the watchtower has a history on being wrong on MANY topics.
ie: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?
Yes....Watchtower 7/1879 page 8
No.....Watchtower 6/1/52 page 338
Yes....Watchtower 8/1/65, page 479
No.....Watchtower 6/1/88, page 31
Yes...Live Forever (old Ed.) page 179
No....Live Forever (new Ed.) page 179
Yes...Insight, vol. 2., page 985
No...Revelation book, page 273.
 
6,000 years from Adam ended in A.D. 1872. (Daily Heavenly Manna, inside cover page)
6,000 years of human history ended in 1873.(The Time is at Hand, p.33)
6,000 years of human history ended in 1972.(The Truth Shall Make You Free, p.152, 1943 edition)
6,000 years of human history ended in 1975. (Awake!, October 8th, 1968, page 15).
 

It's a matter of general credibility .... someone that is ALWAYS wrong about such things gets the credibility they deserve from rational people, and faith in their PRESUMABLY good intentions by others.

If you really are a hunchback dwarf with duck feet, you could be a HUNCHMAN for the devil, and STILL keep your job as a Watchtower Lawyer!

You know.... I give considerable thought to being FAIR, with all people ... and the thought occurred to me that I am taking up a CONSIDERABLE amount of space In your head, Billy, and not even paying rent.
I am living rent-free in your head, and although there is a lot of empty space, I seem to be taking up most of it.
Here is what I propose:
Lets say you, Billy, have 2 acres of free space up there, and I am taking up at least half of your imagination.  I think a fair market value is $35 dollars a day per acre, with a $10 a day bonus per day for my not having to be exposed to any competing sense of humor. 
OK ... so that would be $45 a day .... and lets say I have been consuming your thoughts for about a year and a half ... say ... for want of a better figure, 548 days.  So that would be 548 days, times $45 dollars per day so that would be in round numbers $24,640.
I am assuming you do not dream about me, because you have never mentioned it .... but that would subtract from the above estimate, anyway.  I am trying to be fair about this.
I have decided to pay you IN FULL for the space that I appear to be permanently occupying, and from time to time as it appears to continue to be the case,  perhaps at 600 or so day intervals, give or take, to catch up on the back rent, for living in your imagination.
I asked a Lawyer if I would need a receipt, but he said since there was no formal agreement, it would not be necessary,  Apparently all Real Estate transactions in every State are only legal if they are in writing, but he suggested that since I do not have any personal information about you, except that a lot of people have given you firearms over the years, and you hide behind an imaginary persona, with imaginary pistol and rifle as shown in your photo, and have an imaginary .50 caliber sniper rifle, and I live only in your imagination, the safest bet would be to pay you in the "coin of the realm".
Since I do not know how to use BitCoin, please consider this code Blc%d42dyyjTHY65, as payment in full .... in imaginary money.
 

I speak of Jesus continually, while you speak of the GB, continually.  Tell me, which words of Christ do I reject?  Or, do you mean, I reject your false christs' words?   Their words are not in harmony with the words of Jesus Christ, which speak truth; unlike leaders who can't walk a straight line in Bible truths - Christ's teachings.   (again, it's called spiritual drunkenness - Isa 28:7-10; Matt 24:48-51)  I left your leaders to follow Christ.   Have you forgotten that I have stated this?  But in your twisted way, you believe that is an evil thing to do, and your leaders believe the same.  
"Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God. 9 But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. 10 “And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven."  Luke 12:8-10
"Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."  1 John 2:22,23
I'll not respond to your slander in answer to this, since I already know it is twisted, like a dangerous rope hanging around your neck.  Matt 15:18,19   As always, you believe you have this superior position over all, an arrogance of your own you can't perceive;  yet, you believe everyone else here is the arrogant, ignorant, evil one.  I am sorry for your blindness, both spiritually and psychologically.  I really am.  I hope you take a step back, Allen, and think of all that you know is WRONG with the organization.  Analyze what righteousness is, and truth - real, unadulterated truth, not the whitewashed "truth" you've grown accustom to.  Would God expect His Son to provide anything less?  John 17:17
  Defending an organization full of corruption, sin, and untruths, reflects the heart condition of the one defending it.     

What your leaders are doing by disfellowshipping, "killing" those who serve Christ and not false "christs", fulfills prophesy.  Did you think it would never be revealed?   
Matt 24:24; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9--12; Rev 13:1,2,4-11,14-17; Rev 11:1-3,7; Zech, chapter 4

So Billy wants faith and obedience to MEN. MEN who admit to not being inspired of God's Holy Spirit.
And Billy compares that to the Apostles that were Inspired of God's Holy Spirit and proved it too. 
And Billy thinks that people want the Watchtower to be perfect, whereas Jesus said
'You even though you are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your  children' 
Matthew 7 v 9 through 11. 
Indeed, which one of you, if his son asks for bread, will hand him a stone?10  Or if he asks for a fish, he will not hand him a serpent, will he? 11  Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him!
So here we have Jesus saying that if the Anointed / or those taking the lead,  asked God for good things then God would give those good things. Then the Anointed / those taking the lead, would pass on those good things to the congregation. No lies, no deceit, just good things. 
Billy also thinks the Watchtower / JW Org was 'set up' by God or so his comment looks. 
Quote Billy "God demands for his followers to follow a structured authority setup by him."
So would the onus be on Billy to prove  that the Watchtower / JW Org was set up by God ? 
I personally would think the 'demand' from God would be that we serve God through Jesus Christ. 

No, what it means is, as long as you are true to God and follow scripture, you do not have to be obedient to the GB and its org. 
So i can be a JW in the eyes of some as I still bear witness to God and Christ.    
But I'm not one of Jehovah's Witnesses as I left that Org. 
Actually Tom, you have made a fantastic loophole. You are saying that anyone that witnesses about 'Jehovah' is one of Jehovah's witnesses. 
So in point of fact no one needs to become a member of that two sided Org, the Watchtower and JW Org. 
You have actually made the lovely division between talking about God to others, and, being a member of a false religion that uses God's name. Thanks Tom.
You have made it clear that one does not need to be a member of JW Org or the Watchtower, to be able to serve God. 
 

@BillyTheKid46  Like I said Billy we have different opinions. 

@BillyTheKid46 You make a charge of judgment against the Watchtower leaders as false teachers when in fact by your own actions and words, you are this false prophet. 
Oh dear Billy, there is no good reason to even talk to you.  Your Watchtower GB and the ones before them the Bible Students all made things up as they went along. It gets boring to keep mentioning the 'Superior Authorities' and the 'This Generation' and the Blood Issue and the Two witness rule........................................ 
Billy you just don't want to see the honest truth, so be it. 
2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 
Well that has certainly happened in the JW Org hasn't it. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. earthwide
3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. 
Armageddon 1914, 1975,  and now soooo close.   Only those in the JW Org will get saved.  The GB are the Faithful and Discreet slave. Lies and more lies. 
BUT I'm not a prophet. Showing the truth about a wicked GB and it's two Orgs is not prophecy. 
Even if you die of old age, what good will it do you, to be judged as unrighteous? Now that's a crazy idea! 🤔
I think we have a different idea of 'unrighteous' Billy.  My thought are that when a person dies their sins die with them. So a  resurrection is a clean start. 
We also have a different idea about sinning against the spirit. In my opinion, and it will remain so, only the true Anointed can sin against the spirit, because only they are inspired of God by God's Holy spirit. 
Hence I also believe that the Bible is for the true Anointed to fully understand and to pass on true information to the earthly class. Back to 'ten men clinging to the skirt of a Jew'. 
 
 

I think Noah was a bit more proactive. Or did he just put a sign on the side or the Ark ? 

Sometime I fantasize about being a multi-millionaire, and being able to arrange my time to Pioneer ... but not only that ... but to put a full HUNDRED hours a month in the Field Service.
I would hire a pilot and aircraft to fly up and down Miami Beach, Florida , about 1/4 mile from the beach, towing behind a "JW.ORG" banner, with the Scripture "John 9:41", and watch it through my sunglasses.
..... the rough equivalent of a Brother standing beside his literature cart all day
I am reasonably sure that if I contributed  $30,000 a month to the local Kingdom Hall, as "Prince" did, not only could I "count my time" .... I would be a "Pillar" in the Organization.  AND, at the same time, get a nice tan!
 
....er ... "Pillar" .... NOT "Pillow".
 

Only because I'm an ex witness and I know the game.
I stood and watched, waiting for someone to go up and talk to them or even just take a magazine, but no one went near them. 

But your people need all those monthly reports so as to count your membership. 
Stand by a trolly / cart for one hour a month and you are a member to be counted. Do half an hour on the doors a month and you are a member to be counted, as long as you don't forget to put in your monthly report  . 

One thing is quite funny @Josué2 when translated to French then back to English, the English is not  the same as the original. 
My previous comment reads differently after the double translation.. Similar with @Matthew9969 the 'cart' has now become a 'basket' .
As for @Judith Sweeney Hours as a date reference should be for internal reference surely ? Not for announcement from the platform. 
Announcing it from the platform is indeed like the religious leaders of Jesus' time that it seems had a 'trumpet announcement' when they gave a large gift. 
Quote : "Some in here...@ John Butler are just trying to malign the congregations and the good works that are being done." 
Whereas I wrote :- 
The one thing i see is that those doing the ministry are showing themselves as believing and not frightened to be seen doing what they think is God's work. 
Is that having evil intentions ? I think it is just plain truth. 
 

Thank you, that is indeed a help.. 

The "two-balloon slander" is  misunderstanding or mistranslation of the French, which I think just means "bickering over trivialities." (As in, "Isn't all this just some bickering over trivialities?")
C'est cette médisance a deux balles ?
Literally "à deux balles" doesn't mean two balloons, balls, or even two bullets, but I think is more like "over [just] two francs."  (i.e., 'Isn't this just some cheap sniping?')
 
 

Posted 2 hours ago
 
 there is no question of boasting.
Is this two-ballooning slander?
In Anglais JTR Jr. But what is  'two-ballooning' ? 

Josue2
You are obviously trying to share information which may be valuable.
How about I make a deal with you .... you write in English, and I will not reply in Klingon?
Otherwise, your efforts are completely wasted on anyone who does not speak French.
I spit and yell in Klingon.
..... both at the same time!

Comparing two unequal education systems makes no sense at all.
It is a complex problem, as we have TRUTH, not available, anywhere else ... and that TRUTH, when not contaminated, represents freedom and life itself.
There is a difference between a compendium of facts, ideas and concepts in a school or universities'  science books, which cumulatively changes as more knowledge is acquired .... and someone who claims to represent God and righteousness, and supposedly getting it right as led by Holy Spirit.
What is taught in schools and universities can be continually tested to see if it is true.
The Bible is a FINISHED PRODUCT, but most can only be tested through the lens of common sense. 
Evey religion that has ever existed, or exists now,  has been and is seduced into abandoning common sense ... because of "Free Money".
Comparison of the two educational systems  is not valid.    They do NOT have the same basis.
When you speak with the authority of Jehovah God ... and you are right about 15% of the time, and make up stuff out of THIN AIR, and punish others for not believing as you do ... and you are flat WRONG 85% of the time ..... who then is the apostate?
Yes, I suppose prostitutes give more value for the money than  lawyers, most of the time, but that is not the point.
When you collect other people's money for "feel-good"  made up stories ( and there is quite a list, as we have discussed here for years...) you become, not a representative of the True God, but a professional story teller with a bloodied knife for those that don't like manufactured fantasy, for MONEY!
There is a very real and dramatic difference between being an apostate to the Christ, and the True God, Jehovah, and being an apostate to the clueless, opinionated, made up out of wishful thinking, arbitrary "flavor of the month".
"New Light", means you .... no matter WHO you are ....  are actually an apostate to what you believed and/or taught as Truth, last month.
If you are at the top of the hierarchy ... you get money, real estate, unlimited free labor, status,  and adulation. You NEVER go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, or sleep cold.
If you are at the bottom of the hierarchy, you get the knife, and are ENCOURAGED to go hungry, live in a dump, dress shabbily, and sleep cold.
 

(Billy-Think logic) See?  Our educational system is not as bad as  .........SATAN'S !
( .... does a SNL Dana Carvey "Church Lady" dance ..... )
 
 

Like to ask, what is, according to you "standard education" in 140 year history of WT Society? What, how much  of those "standards" that people have to learned before to be called as suitable for "everlasting life", was been rejected and still now this same project/process continue despite all those big claims in the past and still now, how that all before and today is "God's Truth" ?? 
Please do not compare "worldly education system" that JW's think is based on satan manipulation, with "theocratic education system" that is based on GB uninspired errors or still perhaps - Inspired Errors  !!  

Thanks for comment, but I disagree :))
Every Prophet must be "Inspired" for reason to be called A Prophet. If he is not then he is Not a Prophet. In this context when using word Prophets, i guess, is about Bible Prophesies. And as such, Bible Prophets was Inspired by JHVH. Every True Bible Prophets was INSPIRED by JHVH, as they state. But every False Bible Prophets was also Inspired. Don't you think the same? Question is by who? By devil spirit or by Own spirit?
Perhaps such person (Christians in general) is just someone Who Repeat Other People Words. And if he, in this repeating of Old Prophets Words going Further, to Let Say: Interpret Prophet's Words by giving Explanation and Time of fulfillment or Way how Words would/will be Fulfilled... than such person or Christians or Organization or Church is .... what?  
..... Spirit Led?? :))
As I said in preamble, we can speaking (for now) about 3 sort of spirit: divine, demonic and human. AND ALL THREE have the same quality, they can INSPIRE. And by that reason when GB of WTJWORG said how they are not Inspired, they said wrong. Because they are Inspired ... by some of this three spirits, and also in variation of influence made by this three spirits on people in one Organization.