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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Why do the elders have to announce when a publisher decides to spend 70 hours a month in service?   
    Yes well two complete nut cases together, you should get along just fine I suppose. 
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Matthew9969 in How are we to understand the GB/Slave interpreting scripture, as the sole chanel, and at the same time accept that they can err?   
    These statements does strongly imply that the governing body are idols to the rank and file.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Noble Berean in How are we to understand the GB/Slave interpreting scripture, as the sole chanel, and at the same time accept that they can err?   
    Hi Anna! Sorry for the delay in response. I am a little bit confused what you mean about complete obedience being in the minds of only some Witnesses. The Governing Body spells it out in their literature. Here are some notable examples:
    Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same? (w09 2/15 pp. 24-28) "We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." (w11 7/15 p.24 Simplified English Edition) "[A mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave." (w01 8/1 p.14) I am not sure how much clearer they can be about their attitude. They expect complete trust and obedience in their direction. For Br. Jackson to suggest that JWs would see wrong direction and not follow it is disingenuous. The truth is that adherents have continued to obey the GB throughout its self-admitted history of erring direction.
    JWs are literally told that their personal views are valueless next to the direction of the organization: "He [a mature Christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding." (Watchtower 2001 Aug 1 p.14) So, under what circumstances would JWs suddenly become aware that their personal ideas on the Bible have weight? Members are primed to put loyalty to leadership and the group ahead of their personal faith.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Srecko Sostar in How are we to understand the GB/Slave interpreting scripture, as the sole chanel, and at the same time accept that they can err?   
    @Anna  In my opinion, based on fact that no where in WTJWORG print or digital way, GJ appearance  before ARC was NOT possible to see (to read about) on JWTV Broadcasting, to empowered your reasoning, claim  before JW people on that other website. 
    By that they consider you sort of "apostate" or at least person who spread false gossip. But this was good experience for you.
    You, as JW are not "inspired". Bro GJ as GB of JW's is not "inspired" too. So, how than, that his words have more value than Your's ?! :)) 
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Noble Berean in How are we to understand the GB/Slave interpreting scripture, as the sole chanel, and at the same time accept that they can err?   
    That is a good point Srecko. The audience at the ARC wasn't JWs (and any indoctrinated JW would've probably avoided viewing the ARC recording). That is why Geoffrey Jackson is able to make disingenuous comments like the one Anna brought up. They weren't meant for JW ears. Another that comes to mind is his remark that the GB claiming sole spokesperson status would be "presumptuous." He wouldn't dare say something like that to active members, because it would confuse and disturb them. No, the comments were meant for outsiders that are less familiar with the organization and less likely to question him.
    The ARC is not the only time representatives for the organization have taken advantage of the general public's ignorance of JW doctrine and culture. They bend the truth to make the organization seem more open and tolerant than it really is. Another example was when a JW Bethelite stated under oath in a Canadian court that disfellowshipping does not alter normal family relations. We know that to be a false statement, but the organization has no qualms with using shady legal language to muddy the waters. There is basically a public voice and a private voice. Very alarming when the organization promotes that it has "the truth," because there aren't different versions of the truth.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Witness in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    They cast lots, an age old Jewish tradition.  When in doubt, cast lots.  Does God always answer our prayers according to what we desire?  Did the Holy Spirit tell these men to cast lots in order to choose a 12th apostle?  No.  They decided to choose someone to fill in for Judas, who was never a 12th apostle anyway.    Who WAS chosen by Christ to be the 12th apostle and one of the foundations stones of the Temple?  1 Pet 2:5,9; Acts 9:17; 1 Cor 3:10,11; Eph 2:20;  Rev 21:14 ("twelve foundations")  
    When it involves choosing a living stone for His Temple,  God makes the choice, not men.    
    Who is hating who?  Who condones the spiritual "killing" of their own brother in Christ? John 16:2; Rev 13:15  I certainly don't have that power.      You are saying all those anointed ones who defend Christ's words over the words of a false "christ", are not anointed. Mark 13:22   Wow.  You judge on the same plane as they do.  Falsely, and in blasphemy. Mark 13:22; Rom 14:4; 1 John 3:10-12
    You speak of Jesus, but you do not recognize God's true Temple built with living stones on his Body. Isa 43:10;1 Pet 2:5,9,10   Instead, you support "Jehovah's spiritual temple"/organization - an idol. Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4  So, in other words, you support false christs who preach another Jesus; and you put up with it, fulfilling your need to organize according to the desires of men.  2 Cor 11:4; James 3:15 
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Witness in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    I fully expected him to say, you are from Mars, I am from Venus...and we're both idiots.  
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Cheaper than a Comedy Club ......
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Billy(Just Weasel)theKid46 .... your arrogance is only topped by your presumptuousness.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Helicopter crash landed on "my" building   
    ( JTR squints his eyes and rubs his hands together slowly, as if putting on hand lotion ...)  "So THAT"S your caper, eh, El Bandito?"
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to JW Insider in Helicopter crash landed on "my" building   
    We had an elder who would tell uninterested people who lived in beautiful houses that after Armageddon he was going to live in their house after they were gone. He was such a cut-up that he could get away with these antics, but still . . .
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Helicopter crash landed on "my" building   
    Except in Airports, where the "Clinton News Network" (CNN) pays the Airport to show their stuff, who watches CNN, anymore?  Their coverage of the First "Gulf War" was magnificent ... but they quickly devolved to pablum and spittle.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    ..... I am not laughing at you, Witness, I am laughing at BTK(JW)46's  anticipated reply.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Jesus.defender in Firstborn or First created?   
    Firstborn or First created?
    Colossians 1:15 - ‘the firstborn (Greek: prototokos 4416) of every creature’.
    JWs use this verse to teach that Jesus was created at a point in time as an angel.
    They ignore the evidence and insist that the word ‘firstborn’ here means ‘first created’, ‘the eldest in Jehovah’s family of sons’.
    The Bible teaching:
    1) ‘Firstborn’ (Greek: prototokos) does NOT mean ‘first-created’ (Greek: protoktisis). First-created (Protoktisis) is never used of Christ in New Testament.
    Question:Where is it used of Jesus in New Testament?
    Question: Why didn’t Paul use the term ‘first-created’ (protoktisis) in Colossians 1:15 if he meant that Christ was the first one created by Jehovah?
    2) Ask: What does ‘firstborn’ (Greek: prototokos 4416) mean?
    Answer: ‘Pre-eminent, Ruler, Sovereign, First in rank’.
    It is used in other passages which refer to Christ:
    i. Romans 8:29 ‘that he might be the firstborn among many brethren’. ‘Prototokos’ presents Christ as the pre-eminent member of the group (S. Zodhiates NT, p 1249).
    ii. Colossians 1:15. ‘The firstborn of every creature’ Christ is the one pre-eminent and supreme ruler over all creation (S Zodhiates NT, p 1250). v.16 ‘By him were all things created’ means that Christ Himself is not part of Creation (John 1:3).
    iii. Colossians 1:18 ‘He (Christ) is the head of the body, the church: who is the
    beginning (arche), the firstborn (prototokos=Ruler) from the dead; that in all
    things he might have the pre-eminence (proteuon)’.
    ‘Arche’ means ‘first cause’ (Revelation 3:14, Colossians 1:18) and is parallel to
    ‘prototokos’ in Colossians 1:15,18, both asserting Christ’s pre-eminence.
    Note: ‘Proteuon’ (pre-eminence) present tense is used only in Colossians 1:18 and indicates not an acquired right to be ruler and pre-eminent, but an inherent right by virtue of His nature. Christ, being the Creator, deserves to have pre-eminence.
    iv. Hebrews 1:6 ‘And again, when he bringeth the firstbegotten(prototokos=Ruler) into the world, he saith ‘And let all the angels of God worship Him’.
    Alternately, translate this as ‘And when He again brings the firstborn into the
    world’, refers to Christ’s second coming when Christ as King will be worshipped
    by the angels. Christ is exalted even above all the angels.
    v. Revelation 1:5 ‘And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the
    firstbegotten (prototokos=Ruler) of the dead, and the prince (arche = chief) of the kings of the earth.’ Here ‘prototokos’ means that Christ is first of those to be
    resurrected, and prince (arche) means ruler of earth’s kings at His second coming.
    Note: JWs compare Christ as the firstborn of all creation with the firstborn son of Pharaoh. This is nonsensical, because it is true that Pharaoh parented his son, but it is not true that ‘all creation’ parented Jesus.
    3) We must understand what the original speaker or writer intended by the words which he used. The ancient Hebrews used the term ‘firstborn son’ when referring to the preeminent son, regardless of whether or not he was the first son born to the parents. The son with the title ‘firstborn’ had the right of primogeniture which meant that:
    i) He acquired a special blessing (Genesis 27);
    ii) He became heir of a double share of the father’s wealth (Deuteronomy 21:17);
    iii) He replaced his father as the family head. He had authority over his brothers;
    iv) He represented the father in civil and religious matters;
    v) He had some holiness because through him flowed the common blood of the tribe (Genesis 49:3; Deuteronomy 21:17).
    Key: The term ‘firstborn’ does not refer to the first one born, but to the pre-eminent one in the family. Consider these examples where the son with the title ‘firstborn’ was not born first:
    (1) David was the last born son of Jesse, yet Psalm 89:27 says of him: ‘Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth’. (v.20 onwards refers to David).
    (2) Ephraim was the second born son of Joseph: ‘The name of the second called he Ephraim.’ (Genesis 41:50-52). Yet ‘Ephraim is my firstborn’ (Jeremiah 31:9). This was because of his pre-eminent position. Manasseh was born first to Joseph, but Ephraim became the firstborn because of his pre-eminence.
    (3) Jacob (Israel) was the second son born to Isaac, after Esau, yet God says of Israel, ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22). Esau says of himself, ‘I am Esau thy firstborn’. (Genesis 27:19). Esau means that he was born first and should have the birthright. God means that Israel, though born second, took the pre-eminent position. Hence, in this sense Christ is firstborn because of His pre-eminence, not because He was created first as JWs think.
    (4) Solomon was born to David later, and the line of the kings came through Solomon,yet Amnon was born first (I Chronicles 3:2).
    (5) Isaac was born 13 years after Ishmael, yet Isaac took the pre-eminent position in the family.(Genesis 17:19).
    (6) Judah was the fourth son born to Jacob (Genesis 29:35), yet Judah received the dominion and line of Christ, even though Reuben being born first forfeited his right of primogeniture due to fornication (Genesis 49:3,4)
    4) Firstborn can be rendered metaphorically, not meaning born first. Examples include:
    i) Job 18:13 ‘the firstborn of death shall devour his strength’. As the firstborn son held the chief place, so Job refers to the chiefest (most deadly) disease that death possessed;
    ii) Isaiah 14:30 ‘The firstborn of the poor shall feed’, means the poorest of the poor.
    Conclusion: Firstborn does not mean born first or created first. Rather, it is a title of first rank, or pre-eminent position. Paul calls Christ the firstborn (prototokos = Ruler).
    Ask: What does Psalm 89:27 mean by calling David firstborn, when he was the last born son?
    Ask: Why didn’t Paul use ‘first created’ (protoktisis) of Christ in Colossians 1:15 if he intended to teach that Christ was the first one created by Jehovah?
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Shiwiii in 1914   
    does this apply to an org that states, no beards, no blood, no birthday? 
    does it apply to an org that says they are the only means/way for salvation?
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Jesus.defender in 1914   
    "In subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God has already begun...And that the "battle of the great day of God almighty [revelation 16:14], which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced. SOURCE: "The Time is at Hand; 1889. ( note: The 1915 edition of this book changed "A.D. 1914" to "A.D. 1915." )
     
    "...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," SOURCE: The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101.
     
    Here we see "proofs" not "maybe" or "perhaps" or "our opinion is", but "proofs" and "WILL end", not "maybe" or "possibly".
    Even if the date was right but the prophecy wrong, it is still a failed prophecy.
     
    Comments? Dialog?


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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Jesus.defender in JEHOVAH’S NAME or JESUS CHRIST’S NAME?   
    JEHOVAH’S NAME or JESUS CHRIST’S NAME.

    The Watchtower teaches that God’s true Name is Jehovah. They teach that:
    ‘Sometime during the second or third Century CE, the scribes removed the tetragrammaton (JHWH) from both the Septuagint and the Christian Greek Scriptures and replaced it with κυριος (Lord) or θεος (God)’. Reference Edition of NWT, 1984, p 1564.
    The Watchtower’s Kingdom Interlinear Translation (KIT) proves that Jesus is Jehovah God.
    On page 10,11 of the 1985 KIT, under the heading ‘Restoring the Divine Name, Jehovah’ we read: ‘the evidence (what evidence?) is that the original text of the Christian Greek Scriptures has been tampered with (no proof) . . . Sometime during the second or third centuries CE, the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) was eliminated from the Greek texts by copyists (no proof).
    Instead of YHWH they substituted the words Kurios (‘Lord’) and Theos (‘God’).’
    Note: This is a lie. There is no historical or manuscript evidence or evidence of protest to support this claim. Somebody would have protested such a change.No one did. It never happened.
    The New World Translation (NWT) is the JW perversion of the Bible made to support their false doctrines. It inserts the name ‘Jehovah’ in the New Testament in the place of God (θεος=theos) or Lord (κυριος =kurios) on 237 occasions, where they believe it refers to God the
    Father. They often refer to Hebrew translations of the NT to see where this has been done.
    These are footnoted as J1 to J27. Their dishonesty and deceit is shown by their failure to translate these words as ‘Jehovah’ when it refers to Christ. (eg: Philippians 2:11; Hebrews 1:10).
    JWs say that the proper use of God’s ‘correct’ name (Jehovah) is absolutely essential to one’s salvation. They quote from their NWT: 
    ‘Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.’ Romans 10:13 (NWT).
    ‘People will have to know that I am Jehovah.’ Ezekiel 39:6 (NWT).
    JWs believe that because they are the only group who refer to God by His ‘true’ name, Jehovah, they are the only true followers of God.
    Their claim is false for these reasons:
    1) Jehovah is not a Biblical term. It is a man-made term. The Old Testament has YHWH because the original Hebrew only had consonants. Jews feared taking God’s name in vain, so when they publicly read YHWH, they would pronounce it ‘Adonai’ (Lord).
    Later they inserted the vowels from Adonai (a-o-a) into the consonants YHWH to give YAHOWAH, which became Jehovah. Hence, the word Jehovah comes from a consonantvowel
    combination from YHWH and Adonai.
    2) No-one knows for sure the original correct pronunciation of YHWH. Hence we cannot insist on ‘Jehovah’ as being correct.
    3) Jesus never addressed the Father as Jehovah in the New Testament. If JWs are correct that God must be always called Jehovah, then Jesus was sinning by not calling God ‘Jehovah’. When the NWT puts Jehovah in Jesus’ mouth in the NT, it contradicts all the NT manuscripts which don’t have it.
    QUESTION: Since Jesus never in the NT addressed the Father as Jehovah, why should we?
    4) Jesus and the Apostle Paul tell us to address God as ‘Father’:
    a) Jesus taught us to pray to God as ‘Our Father’, not ‘Our Jehovah’: ‘After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father.....’ (Matthew 6:9).
    b) Jesus addressed God as Father in His own prayers:
    ‘I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth’. (Matthew 11:25).
    ‘O my Father, if it be possible.......’ (Matthew 26:39,42).
    ‘He said, Abba, Father.......’ (Mark 14:36).
    ‘ I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven.......’ (Luke 10:21).
    ‘Saying, Father, if thou be willing.......’ (Luke 22:42).
    ‘Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them;.......’ (Luke 23:34).
    ‘Father, the hour is come......’ (John 17:1).
    c) Paul said, ‘we cry, Abba, Father.’ (Romans 8:15).
    d) The Holy Spirit through Paul said, ‘God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father’. (Galatians 4:6).
    Here the Holy Spirit of God tells us to call God ‘Abba, Father’, not ‘Jehovah’
    QUESTION: If Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Paul all address God as Father nine times (and never as Jehovah) then shouldn’t we call God ‘Father’?
    5) No Ancient NT manuscripts contain the tetragram (YHWH) to translate as Jehovah.
    The Church writers before 325 AD only mention Jehovah once in passing. JWs tell us that most Bible versions deceive people because they omit Jehovah as God’s Name, so
    the JWs dishonestly add the word ‘Jehovah’ to the NT text, even though it is not in any NT Greek manuscript, ancient version, papyri or lectionary.
    The WT’s claim that ‘Jehovah’ as God’s name was removed from the NT by superstitious scribes, is a total lie with no supporting historical or manuscript evidence.
    6) Whose Name did the early Christians identify themselves with? Was it Jehovah or was it Jesus Christ? Always Jesus Christ, never Jehovah.
    Who knows more, the Apostles or modern JWs? Consider these examples:
    a) The Apostles never used the name ‘Jehovah’.
    b) The Apostles and first century Christians were never called ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’. ‘The disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.’ (Acts 11:26).
    c) There is no proof that Jesus or his disciples ever pronounced the tetragram YHWH. 
    JWs claim that when Jesus read from Isaiah 61:1 ‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon me....’ as quoted in Luke 4:18,19, that Jesus pronounced the word ‘YHWH’.
    This is most unlikely. JWs assume that the religious leaders endorsing Christ’s ‘gracious words’ in verse 22 was because He uttered the name YHWH?
    Historical records in the Mishnah, from Josephus, and from other sources show the Jews were loathe to allow the name YHWH to be used. The Jews would not have tolerated it being used by anybody but the High Priest.Jesus would have read ‘Adonai’
    7) 119 Bible passages referring to Jehovah, are quoted and applied to Christ in the New Testament (Proof Available)
    QUESTION: In view of 119 Bible verses applying ‘Jehovah’ to Christ in the NT, what does this tell you about who Christ is?
    😎 The New Testament tells us to name the name of Jesus Christ, not the name of Jehovah. Consider these examples:
    1. ‘Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.’(II Timothy 2:19)
    2. ‘I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ . . .’ (I Cor 1:10)
    3. ‘Ye are washed,....sanctified,... justified in the name of the Lord Jesus ’ (I Cor 6:11)
    4. ‘Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus.’ (Col 3:17)
    5. ‘That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you....’ (II Thess 1:12)
    6. ‘Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves.....’ (II Thess. 3:6)
    7. ‘all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.’ (I Corinthians 1:2)
    8. ‘Thou holdest fast my name....’ Jesus said to the Pergamos church. (Revelation 2:13).
    JWs have not held fast Christ’s name, nor have they called upon Christ’s name, nor do they name the name of Christ, nor is Jesus Christ precious to them, because they do not have saving belief in Him. ‘Unto you . . . which believe He is precious’.(I Peter 2:7).
    QUESTION: Where does the NT tell us to name the name of Jehovah?
    9) The New Testament always lifts up Jesus Christ’s name, not Jehovah’s name. Why?
    Because Jesus Christ is Jehovah God on earth. Christ is 100% God and 100% man.
    Q1: In whose name should we meet together?
    ‘Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.’ (Matthew 18:20)
    Q2: Demons were cast out by the authority of whose name?
    ‘Paul.....said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.’ (Acts 16:18)
    Q3: In whose name should we preach repentance and forgiveness of sins? ‘And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations. And ye are witnesses of these things.’ (Luke 24:47,48)
    Q4: In whose name are we to believe and receive forgiveness of sins? ‘....through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.’ (Acts 10:43, John 1:12)
    Q5: By whose name, and no other, do we obtain salvation? Acts 4:10,12 says: ‘by the name of Jesus Christ ... Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.’
    Q6: In whose name should we pray? John 16:23,24; 14:13,14; 15:16 says: ‘Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.’
    Q7: In whose name is the Holy Spirit sent?
    ‘But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name......’ (John 14:26)
    Q8: In whose name and authority did the disciples heal the sick?
    ‘His name through faith in his name hath made this man strong’ (Acts 3:16; 4:30)
    Q9: Whose name did Paul say that we are to call upon?
    ‘ all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.’ (I Cor 1:2)
    Q10: Whose name is above every name?
    ‘God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name .... that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.’(Phil 2:9-11)
    Paul’s quote about Christ is from Isaiah 45:22-24 where every knee will bow to Jehovah. What is true about Jehovah, is also true of Christ, the Lord of all mankind
    Q11: According to Acts 1:8, of whom are we to be witnesses?
    ‘Ye shall be witnesses unto me (Jesus)’
    Q12: In whose name were believers baptized?
    ‘they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus’. (Acts 8:16; 2:38)
    Q13: In whose name were believers designated?
    ‘the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch’. (Acts 11:26)
    Q14: In whose name did the apostles speak?
    ‘Commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus’ Acts 4:17,18
    Q15: In whose name did early Christians suffer? Acts 15:26 says:
    ‘Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.’ ‘rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name’Acts 5:41;9:16
    Q16: Whose name was Paul to carry?
    ‘Lord said: He is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.’ (Acts 9:15)
    Q17: In whose name did Paul deliver a man to Satan?
    ‘In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ...to deliver such an one to Satan.’ I Cor 5:4,5
    Q18: In whose name did the apostles teach? Acts 5:28; 8:12 says:
    ‘Did we not straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name?’
    10) Why does WT break their own rule (where the OT speaks of Jehovah), that they do not insert Jehovah in the NT, when the quote clearly refers to Christ?
    Peter quotes from Joel 2:32 (spoken of Jehovah) and applies it to Jesus in Acts 2:21 and 38.
    Calling on the name of Jehovah for salvation equals repenting and being baptised in the name of Jesus Christ because of the forgiveness of sins.
    Conclusion: Jesus shares the nature of His Father and His Name. The absence of YHWH in any NT manuscript demolishes the WT case of introducing the word ‘Jehovah’ into the NT.
    Question: If God was so concerned about preserving His covenant name, why did the apostles not preserve it in their writings?
    Question: To imply that the name ‘Jehovah’ is the main name of God that we are to use, contradicts the continued NT use of the name ‘Jesus’ on 900 occasions, while the tetragram YHWH is used nowhere in the NT.
    QUESTION: Why does the WT not translate ‘Jehovah’ into Hebrews 1:10, I Peter 3:15 andPhilippians 2:11, when the OT passages from which these are quoted refer to YHWH?

    We are to make the name of the Father known as Jesus emphasized (Matthew 6:9; John 17:26). How do we do it? By recognizing that Jesus Christ was chosen by the Father to embody all the glory and important reputation of that Name.
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Srecko Sostar in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Everyone who "educate" other people need to take responsibility for the world (mini Universe of Organization) that is created. Agree with you.....
    And not to send message how "collective" is responsible for wrong understanding of error instruction :))) 
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to TrueTomHarley in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    I do it is fair to make the “worldly education system” take responsibility for the world that is has collectively created. Very few who have prominent roles in the governing of this system of things are not highly educated. They should embrace what they have produced.
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Srecko Sostar in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    ... after I was read  @JW Insider fine comments i recalled how Bible say that God can make stone to preach instead human. With JW's idea how it is necessary that some Organization MUST exist today, because God have Organization in Heaven, why not than on Earth with two and half main Organizations: JW Old Nation, Apostles Congregation and of course WTJWORG as only legal successor in line with previous two.  
    But IF really Stones will preach, I wonder How Would God go to Organize Stones ?! By size, by heaviness, by types, by value ....etc. :)) i know .... this is paradox.
    But to continue with sort of paradox is if we want to take to much literally this verse about body parts. For example, Hand was and will be Always A Hand. But in JW congregation, or somewhere else in Some Other Sort of Organization, sometimes A Hand come to be A Head.
    Let say, Ministerial Servant Pioneer is Encouraged to be A Elder, not necessary A Pioneer Elder. :)) Perhaps he can go to Betel and come to have more Responsibilities ....  and so on.
    So in this Kind of Body aka Organization, in WTJWORG or in Congregation, Body Part Illustrations Need another Perspective. Because A Leg will never be a Hand will never be A Head. 
    ...  harmoniously joined together and made to cooperate ... What is this?
    I will go on with Illustrations of Body.  In 1. Corr 12 -  Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. Here we have Idea that is somehow in contradiction with  Organization who want Uniformity and Mirrors in which "separate classes" aka "particular body parts" have to look the same. Auxiliary pioneers need this much hours, Special pioneers different count of hours, member of congregation need to have average number of hours that is in congregation ... and so on ... and so on .... Around The Whole Globe. 
    Is this proof of  Harmony or proof of Uniformity??
    A) Hours are proof of Uniformity and this is not Gift of Spirit.
    B) Love is proof of Harmony and It is Gift of Spirit.
    The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 
    But in Organization we have classes: Publishers, Ministerial Servants, Pioneers, Elders .... or we can call this Functions ? :))
    But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it,25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.
    Who have grater honor in the Body? GB, Elders or Sofia ? :)) 
    Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.
    What is this greater gifts? To prophesies?  Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit,especially prophecy  
    Maybe. But i guess person have to be Inspired by Spirit to be able to do this. GB claim; We are not inspired! So as @Witness very well said;  We must admit that it is an abnormal relationship of a spirit inspired organization (“spirit-directed”), to be led by uninspired leaders. John 3:21; 1 John 1:6; Rev 13:11,12,15 (in her topic GERRIT LOSCH - "DO YOU TRUST ME?")
    There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them..... All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.....For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
    Inspired or not Inspired ... question is now .....what is better to be?
    PS   apologize for long post :))
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    @James Thomas Rook Jr. When you speak with the authority of Jehovah God ... and you are right about 15% of the time, and make up stuff out of THIN AIR, and punish others for not believing as you do ... and you are flat WRONG 85% of the time ..... who then is the apostate?
    James, I've just arrived home and I've been out in the sun, it's very hot here, so excise me for being slightly in a confused state. However, I do not understand where you are coming from. 
    I presume this quote of yours above is referring to the GB / W/t / JW Org. But I keep thinking you are a JW. 
    It is a complex problem, as we have TRUTH, not available, anywhere else ... and that TRUTH, when not contaminated, represents freedom and life itself.
    Then we have this. 'as we have TRUTH not available anywhere else'.  AS who has truth ?  Not the GB surely ? 
    Let's not get TTH going about JW org being the 'only game in town'.  Oh dear.   
    So JW's go door to door with 85% lies / non truth, if your top statement is right. And 85% of what's written in the mags and books is lies/ wrong too. 
    And JW's go to the meetings to have 'their ears tickled', and are willing to pay for that too. 
    And the GB / W/t / JW Org is just big business. That's what I'm getting from your comments. 
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Why do the elders have to announce when a publisher decides to spend 70 hours a month in service?   
    ========================================================
    ...as an aside ....  Sir Isaac Newton knew that the core beliefs (not the 85% drivel) of Jehovah's Witnesses were correct, and could PROVE IT, just as we can ... hundreds of years before there was a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
    HE WAS ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN HIS CORE THEOLOGY!
    ========================================================
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Why do the elders have to announce when a publisher decides to spend 70 hours a month in service?   
    Sir Isaac Newton's FIRST love was theology ... and his minor obsessions were with physics, and math, etc.
    Arguably the smartest natural man who has ever lived.
    He hand wrote MILLIONS of words on theological subjects, and his collected religious works are now stored in the Hebrew National Museum, in Jerusalem.  OF COURSE I have not read them, but from three large biographies about his life, it seems safe to say this about him.
    He never published ANYTHING without rigorous proofs, as he EXPECTED to be challenged on EVERYTHING.
    To the best of my knowledge he was NEVER wrong ... even though he experimented with Alchemy extensively, as the science of Chemistry did not really exist back then ... and he did what he could with what was known at the time.
    Even the WTB&TS alluded to the theory that he may have been one of the Anointed, and there is nothing I have ever read about him that would disprove that theory.
    Without getting into a 20 page thesis, it seems his considered opinion was that Armageddon would occur in the year 2060, but perhaps as early as 2032.
    Of course, it may occur in the next five minutes, as no one knows, or has ever known when the Great Day of Jehovah will start .... however ... I get that same feeling, looking at world events .... and Sir Isaac Newton was NEVER wrong (?), and about such things the Society (along with everybody else on Earth, for two millennia) ... have never been right.
    If the Society had a "theology credibility credit rating" about ANY prophetic prediction they have ever made, with the big three predominate credit rating companies here in the United States: TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax ... what would their "theology credibility credit rating" be?
    ZERO.
     
    "In God We Trust"
    ... all others pay cash!
     
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Why do the elders have to announce when a publisher decides to spend 70 hours a month in service?   
    I was once told that I could not be a JW if I did not witness to others.  I would be a Jehovah's bystander . 
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    BillyTheKid46 reacted to Srecko Sostar in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    Apologize in advance :)) but you also sometimes giving your contributions and increasing that "stupidity" :))
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