BillyTheKid46

Oh @JW Insider it's probably not worth the effort to answer you but I have a bit of time before my darling wife puts my dinner on the table for me.
Let's start with a Quote "You probably know that there were infamous cases of immorality that Paul referred to in his letters even to the very Corinthian congregations that Paul himself had "planted." 
Are look Paul made the immorality known. Whereas, the Elders of the JW congregations hid it all in leters to their HQ and in filing cabinets. Why did the elders hide it ? Because on instructions from the GB. That's why it is all coming into the open now. It follows scripture about 'nothing being hidden that will not be revealed' ...
Quote " But when the Org sees it as a problem, .. "  The Org didn't see it as a problem. It was put 'in their face' by victims of abuse. The problem the GB saw was the cost of the court cases and compensations. 
Why do you use examples of people 'of the world' such as Isaac Newton etc ? They were not 'supposed to be guided by God's Holy Spirit' were they ? 
Your GB pretend to be the 'Faithful and discreet slave' providing the PROPER FOOD at the RIGHT TIME'.  BUT they have to keep changing the food as they give poison instead. So how can they be guided by God to do that ? Do you really think God deliberately misguides His people ? 
Quote "I can't see how it "suits themselves."  The Armageddon threats are obviously to frighten people to get baptised and serve the JW Org. I'm sure we've had quotes on here where the Watchtowers would say the only way to 'get saved' through Armageddon was to be in the Org. More members = more donations.  But then, as with the 7,000 year creative days, it all falls apart and can be seen as lies.  
Quote "the inability to question 1914" ? Are you suggesting more lies ? 
Quote "It's now just a matter of fully implementing the processes that have been put in place." And the two witness rule, what of that ? I'm sure in my own mind that the scripture was not for that use. 
Quote " I  think we agree completely on shunning. I have no doubt at all that we have been implementing the shunning practice in an unchristian, unscriptural, and unloving manner. "
So are we looking at a 100% turnaround on it then ? I very much doubt that.  Remember ,'By their works you will know them'.
Quote " I would never claim we are more moral than any other group of people.".  That's one thing we can agree on then.  
But that being the case, thousands of JW's are hypocrites. So it's an unclean Org. 
Quote "If enough Witnesses perform their Christian duty, however, even a mass of disfellowshippings will automatically produce changes. "
I was hoping for a mass 'leaving the JW Org when I left, but it didn't happen. I was hoping that would have produced change.
Enough for now , my wife is calling me to dinner. 

Spoken like a true arrogant WT lawyer .... or Gerritt Losch.
The bottom line is, you said NO, to my challenge.
 

Could anyone disobeying the High Priest and the Sanhedrin be a true servant of God ? Oh yes it was Jesus.
Could anyone condemning the Pharisees be a true servant of God ? Yes once again Jesus.
And which of the disciples/apostles was it said 'We must serve God as ruler rather than men' ? Was it Paul. 
Billy you have no idea. How many times have the Watchtower writers condemned the Catholic Church, and it has been passed as ok by the GB. 
There are how many different types of 'Christianity' ? And you would not 'sow discourse' against any of them ? 
As for interfering with the police doing their duty, i think it has happened within the JW Org. And the Org tried to stop the Charity Commision carrying out their investigation here in the UK. 
As for who is Anointed and who isn't, is it our place to judge ? Let God through Jesus Christ be the judge. 
And wasn't there an actual video of a brother telling Elders to destroy evidence because 'the devil is coming after the Org'. 
I do wish my memory was better on these things. 
 
 

Like you say Tom nothing is certain until it happens and even then nothing has happened until is if proven, well according to GB rules anyway....  But having feelings about things is surely how police and detectives work. If you don't have suspicion about a crime you would never investigate anything. 

The investigation allegedly feared that the revelations in the programme might lead the movement's leaders to destroy incriminating evidence...
 Matt 10:26b - For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
 

Dream on Tom. 

"Police executed a search warrant last week at the headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Kraainem just outside Brussels, the VRT reports. The news was confirmed by the federal prosecutor's office."
http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations

Much better, now that I recognize the difference between a wicked slave and one of Christ's faithful slaves.   
It must be difficult for you to sleep, knowing you must keep up with all of your ruses.  

I can’t answer for Billy, but my aliases don’t bother me at all.
Except for Top Cat O’Malighan. I caught fleas from him

Does that mean that Srecko Sostar, James Thomas Rook Jr, and yourself are one and the same since you get green arrows from these posters, or can it be how dense some people can get by overthinking? If so, I can say well played to you. Should I conclude that Witness aka James Thomas Rook Jr is more appropriate, then? Or how about behaving as sensible adults should be in order.

@BillyTheKid46 aka Allen Smith.  I'm just wondering why you have @Foreigner click the angry red arrows for you?  I marvel at your game-playing.  

I guess to "Witness" "JWinsider" "Scecko" "James Thomas Rook Jr" you are. You shouldn't have given me away. Sorry for the extension for parallel users, I don't know how to highlight the posters name like you guys. Any personal help is appreciated.

I believe the narrator of this site has given everyone except the one talked about the most, that is not here to defend any allegations is the right of everyone, here. To what extent, only the owner is privileged to know since it's clear he, choices who is to be here. Your motives are your own. You will render an account to God. There is no need to express how stupid or childish your motives are when it's not sincere.  The point is, Witness and JWinsider can use association to think, one person can be many. If True Tom hadn't publicly admitted his alter-persona, I would have never guessed. I won't have bothered with it. That's being the adult in the room.

You have me at a disadvantage. Are you saying James Thomas Rook Jr, JWinsider, Anna aka Comfortmypeople, Melinda, etc. are not Witnesses? They seem to vote regardless. However, like the one called “Witness Persona” has discerned by the votes that are there to show the like or dislike by some of these characters, what is the purpose of having it if you're not going to use it. Is this the reason why? Ex’Witnesses that support their kind.
Is it so farfetched that maybe there are others that are inclined to support those that tell the truth, and not be so absorbed with accepting false stories about the Watchtower and act upon it? That means they have their group of supporters while we have our group of supporters. They need to deal with it and get over it.

That would conclude by this, that JWinsider, Srecko Sostar, James Thomas Jr, witness, and anyone else you wish to add to this list is one and the same. Am I dealing with children or adults? At least give me that in order to understand. I believe Witness mentioned honesty and integrity. How is this accomplished by this deception? I find it interesting when people do endless fishing, and never catch anything.

Witness made a good observation “The arrows help identify the character” that identified the character of the same person using multiple accounts as you indicate. That means he just exposed the identity of the character of the same person using multiple accounts mentioned above. It appears, every time Foreigner downvotes, Srecko Sostar, and James Thomas Rook Jr come behind and upvote.

I wonder if this is how you contemplate and target people you don’t wish to be on this site. Either way, I find your analogy child’s play. If you are a witness, a little maturity goes a long way. Other than that, just like Witness endless rants of mistaken Christianity, it's a waste of time and bloggers space.

BillyTheKid46 would never say anything like that; he'd say:
JWTheologian would say it more like:
Oh, look, the forum still has a few quotes from the original AllenSmith, which is completely different.
It was pretty obvious immediately who @Hankulan Tunani was, even a few months ago, well before this persona was just brought back again with a hyphen: @Hankulan-Tunani to continue the same quest.
I'm just letting you know in case you actually believed that all these (and many other) personas are fooling a lot of people. This way you might not feel the need to waste so much of your time trying to differentiate so many different personas. I still vote that we bring back the original Allen Smith with all his past "upvotes," too.

When I found truth spoken by an actual “inspired” anointed one.
Mal 3:1-3; Rev 11:1-3; Matt 22:1-4; 25:6-10
 

I think that JWI’s intentions are obvious - to demonstrate how modern printing methods improve upon typewritten lists.

Well, I still have about a dozen more such letters, 2 compete sets of Gilead class notes, talk assignments, photos, some research write-ups, some original Watchtower and Awake! artwork in various stages of completion, and a variety of notices from the Bethel Home office.
It's true don't believe that anything that went on behind the scenes at Bethel needs to remain hidden, but neither does it all need to be publicized. Revealing certain things could be unloving as it might hurt or embarrass specific living persons. But, even more it is not necessarily beneficial or loving to share all good things either. For example, I will not share entire sets of Gilead notes, even though I believe that everything taught to Gilead Students should also be available to every other Witness. But I know of Gilead Students who might feel that their privilege is somehow devalued if those who were not invited were allowed to get all the same information. Personally, I think this is an unchristian and unscriptural attitude. But, then again, most of what was taught in these particular Gilead notes is considered no longer valid doctrine anymore (a lot of Elijah class, Elisha class, Prodigal Son class, Samaritan class, Jezebel class, Ahab class, etc.). So it's really only useful for historical purposes.
For now, I'll just share a few of the more innocuous items. The next item posted will show some of the names of non-Gilead personnel involved in addressing Gilead classes. A lot of persons might have been surprised listening to a Gilead Graduation by Brother Fred Franz, and hearing him say that the graduation event was the first time he had ever met with them or addressed them.
See next post:

LOL. I'm always happy to address a challenge. In this case you have claimed that I stole unauthorized material, perhaps hoping to use it against the Watchtower, somehow.
I did not steal anything. And I'm not sure what would make certain material "unauthorized." I suppose you could argue that only material that was published in our publications was authorized. But does that mean that everything else that any Bethelite saved or collected must be destroyed? Really?
Also, this first letter I shared actually went out to a sister and was therefore "published" (with only minor alterations) and the material was reused for future letters on the topic. I have three letters from Governing Body members that were written to me personally. Should I destroy them? One was a letter of recommendation to help me get a secular job after I left Bethel. Do you really think we should be ashamed of or hide anything that goes on behind the scenes at Bethel? You think that we shouldn't talk about any of these things, or that we shouldn't share anything that was written?
You appear to be afraid that this material I saved could be used against the Watchtower, somehow. Anything that I kept, I saved out of a spirit of appreciation for the experience I had at Bethel, which was a wonderful experience. I wanted to remember it and I kept things that would help me remember it. If I had wanted to find a way to use them against the Watchtower, I don't think I would have waited about 40 years to share them.
I admit that I have also shared experiences from Bethel that we could (and should) learn from. Even a negative experience could be profitable to others. I find that most people hold back on this count because they think that certain types of negative experiences cannot be profitable to anyone. This flies in face of scripture. Did Paul hold back from telling the Galatians and Corinthians about negative experiences? Did Jesus hold back? Did not Paul say we should be imitators of Paul himself?
(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable . . .
(1 Corinthians 10:6-12) . . .Now these things became examples for us, in order for us not to desire injurious things, as they desired them. 7 Neither become idolaters, as some of them did; just as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time.” 8 Neither let us practice sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, . . .  11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 12 So let the one who thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall.
(1 Corinthians 4:14-5:6) 14 I am writing these things, not to put you to shame, but to admonish you as my beloved children. . . .  16 I urge you, therefore, become imitators of me. . . . 18 Some are puffed up with pride,. . . 5 Actually sexual immorality is reported among you, and such immorality as is not even found among the nations. . . 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough?
Neither Jesus nor Paul held back from sharing things that were profitable, both old and new.
(Matthew 13:51, 52) . . .” 52 Then he said to them: “That being the case, every public instructor who is taught about the Kingdom of the heavens is like a man, the master of the house, who brings out of his treasure store things both new and old.”
(Mark 4:22) . . .For there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing is carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.

Could it be that John is going to be my pal today? Yes! He picked up on the gist of the remark completely. We’re allies!
Tomorrow it may be a different story.

The Kid must be on something quite strong that gives him hallucinations. Poor Kid.
I think TTH was referring to how Paul collected information by using all the people's viewpoints. I don't think TTH was in any way comparing himself to the Apostle Paul as the Kid seems to imply. But the Kid is getting desperate and needs to hang on to any little bit of grit that he can. 
Keep it up Kid, you make yourself looks more foolish by  the day. 
Oh yes and we all seem to be totally off topic too  

I haven’t actually made any comment about this. However, since I am being drawn into it anyway, let me clarify this nonsense once and for all. 
This photo is not from Venezuela at all, but it is in one of the southern US states & is in fact a falled bank heist on the part of @Top Cat O'Malighan. His getaway car was hit broadside by @Vic Vomidog, flying at an unusual rate of speed because some Bethel hotshot and been spied with a can of beer, a special meeting of the Apostate Society had been called so as to see how to spin it, he was the Keynote speaker, and he was running late.

I get that same funny feeling when I put slices of lunch meat, with the pimentos, and that ring of fat around the edges, into my shoes.
When I walk around ... I feel ... funny!