JOHN BUTLER

This is 100% NOT TRUE ... The ARC received their information by leaks, subpoenas, testimony and letters from victims, and mountains of hard evidence collected by victims and those knowing what actually happened ... (aka "apostates")  ....  that was forwarded to the commission.
I watched the proceedings in real time as it was happening ( I stayed awake all night watching for about a week, and more...) and the Elders, Branch Officials, and even GB member Geoffrey Jackson  were caught in multiple lies and infantile explanations.
The Videos are STILL available, if you want to refresh your memory.
Oh, never mind ... I forgot for a moment ... to refresh your memory, you would have had to have watched the proceedings the FIRST time.

I thought it was self evident, but since you asked me to (partially) explain .......
Their Justice system is set up to be accessible to everyone,...open... transparent ... AND ACCOUNTABLE if someone screws up, is incompetent, or evil .... and does not require "two witnesses". 
Let's say a victim of CSA is also murdered.
NOW you have NO witnesses.
Congregationally,  using the rules we live by, the criminal COMPLETELY escapes Justice.he feigns innocence, and THAT is the end of THAT.
The systems the Nations have can unravel the mystery using detective work, forensic evidence, and if they have a suspect, can try him for his alleged crimes in open court, where he can have witnesses from the general public, witnesses for his defense, and character witnesses in his behalf.  If he is poor with words, or too ignorant to make a determined and competent defense, he will be appointed a Lawyer who presumably IS competent to represent him.
In OUR system you cannot even have present Jehovah's Witnesses from the Congregation present ... and that's the fact, Jack.
You cannot have a transcript, you cannot record it on audio or video, you cannot have competent counsel represent you, and you have to file an appeal in 7 days or there is no appeal available.  The ones judging you do not even have to TELL YOU THEIR NAMES.
... AT LEAST THEY ARE NOT WEARING HOODED ROBES, AND CARRYING A SCYTHE., which is the only "blessing" there.
The Nations closely imitate the system God set up for Israel in ancient times ... and OUR system resembles loosely one set up by any number of tyrants.
The Nations have the MORAL HIGH GROUND because their Justice system more closely imitates the one Jehovah God set up, and ours more closely resembles  a  Public Relations Corporation's damage control department.
 
And that's that's the fact, Jack.
 
 

Well the Kid is unwell isn't he ? It's obvious that God does not control all governments. Not would God want to it seems.
The Devil offered all those 'kingdoms' of the earth to Jesus, so I think it's obvious that the Devil controls them. 

Explain please ?
 

What irritates me the most ... really burns my overweight butt ... is that the Secular Authorities HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Why? You ask why?!!! I am sure how you will recall why, if somebody say - Because all of you who are PROUD to call yourself JW's aka Christians  - need to be LIGHT of The World.
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Please reconsider again, in the LIGHT of verse above, how Funny, Spiritually Immature and Unscriptural is Lawyers words through the mouth of GB FDS individual !! 
Read Again:
.. if the Australian Government, in all the States, was to make mandatory reporting, it would make it so much easier for us.
NOTHING about LIGHT FROM ABOVE, but about - Make It Easier For Us.   :(( ... shame to them.
 

I think, comparison is often a method that can have some negative and positive consequences. When we compare something, we do it for reasons to choose what is better and what is less good to reject. Understandably, of course. But we see that the next thing can happen, after we have chosen the thing that once was better than others, we later see that it has its disadvantages that we do not like. 
In the case of JW religion, we (or I myself) who came out of the organization did not compare JW religion with another religion and then converted to another faith to become their believers. In fact, we compared the organization with the standards that the same organization placed itself. These standards are; God, the Bible, Jesus' doctrine. Principles of truthfulness and honesty as a commonly accepted value, too. So, we had strong reasons to put WTJWORG under the magnifying glass. Comparing an one imperfect religion to another imperfect religion has no significance and purpose as it may seem at first glance.
Comparing people within a one system is also inadequate. If everyone is doing the best they can, then comparing is actually the wrong measurement of human efforts and achievements.
You may also feel that some assembly is once considered better than another. You've heard perhaps the elders of a congregation think or even argue that the brothers in their assembly are without some disadvantages, that brothers in another assembly have. 
To compare, how one is pioneer and one is not, and ask why, how he /she cannot because he/she can according to our opinion .... and so on.
In general, making comparison is difficult and controversial job. :))  

Yes I am judgemental. And in my own opinion I have good reason to be, as do many other ex JW's.
The JW Org, it's GB, the Watchtower, they all need to be judged. Just as they judge the Catholic church and others. 
However, for JW's to use the badness of this wicked world as an excuse for badness in the Org, that is a poor show.
I bring back another of my old saying "Well we didn't offer as many children in the fire to Molech as the other nations did".  When they knew perfectly well what God standards were. 
And i don't see in that scripture you've quoted, that Paul is saying " But I'm better than most people in the world".
Which is the excuse you seem to use.
Comparing things does not mean that you say they are equal. Comparing the JW Org to God's standards shows how wicked the JW Org really is when compared to the standards God expects. Matthew 5 v 48
Matthew 5:48 English Standard Version (ESV)
48 "You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
We know perfection is not attainable for us, but to use the imperfection as an excuse is so weak. 
I think you would have the pedophiles in the JW Org using that scripture from Paul as an excuse :
 when I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me ...   but I behold in my members another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law that is in my members.  
Any excuse for JW 's. 

You have deliberately missed the point. You are comparing the JW Org with the world. But we know the world is filthy and horrible, so yes the Org is a bit better than the world at large.
However you should be comparing the JW Org to God's high standards, then see how smug you can be.  

@TrueTomHarley 'In your dreams is right, for the whole first comment you wrote.
What twaddle. Didn't Peter and the Apostles say at Acts 5 v 29
But Peter and the apostles answered and said, We must obey God rather than men. 
And now the JW's are admitting they have a clergy class ? clergy-penitent privilege 
Quote "Unity among Jehovah’s Witnesses is a commonplace and unremarkable fact." 
What utter rubbish. JW's take each other to worldly courts. They bicker and gossip about each other. It has been proved that some congregants have been 'threatened' by Elders to keep their mouths shut or be disfellowshipped, and that includes me. There is adultery, divorce,  family disputes, all sorts of problems, dishonest dealings too. 
You rabbit on about the world and the UN, but why ?  The W/t, JW Org, GB, are supposed to be NO PART OF THE WORLD, so why doe you people even try to compare yourselves to that world ? 
I've said before, living in my house is much better than living in a sewer. Does that mean my house is perfect ? No of course not. It just means it's better than a sewer. 
So comparing W/t and JW Org to the world means nothing.  As people tell me the 'world' is a big place and is varied in many ways. But even I have met people 'in the world' that are much 'nicer' in a humane way than people in the JW Org. 
Then of course you find the need to off into the realms of fantasy, to obscure the truth about your wicked Org. So be it.
 
 

If you have made that assumption, I'll leave that with you  
But it would be possible for a person to pretend to love, admire, follow, believe in, other people, so that they would not be suspected of any foul play if said people came to harm. 

Wow what a lovely avatar for a spiritual person to have  Billy seems to like the idea that the Kid killed many more people. 
Just a point here, is a genuine photo and avatar ? 
avatar /ˈavətɑː/ noun. HINDUISM a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher. 2. an icon or figure representing a particular person in a video game, Internet forum, etc. "conversation is depicted in a balloon over the avatar's head"   Billy says he's seen my 'avatar' on 'apostate web sites.  Whereas I only use real photos of me. 

You have deliberately missed the point. You are comparing the JW Org with the world. But we know the world is filthy and horrible, so yes the Org is a bit better than the world at large.
However you should be comparing the JW Org to God's high standards, then see how smug you can be.  

You gonna choke ... again ... anonymous BTK?

BTK --- you are a sad, angry, frustrated man, with delusions of grandeur, and a desire to hurt someone who is not intimidated  by your fantasies of scriptural superiority.
I could go on and on for several paragraphs ... but that about covers it.
You remind me of  someone from Christendom who when you disagree with them, their eyes get wide, they start salivating,  get loud, and threaten you with being tormented forever and ever in a burning hell, to the point that in a religious fervor, work themselves up into a rapturous orgasm of hatred.
The only difference is YOU threaten with the Elders, which you try to use as a weapon, to have people fear YOU.
The things you project on others ... is who YOU are.
Here is a good test for YOU, or ANYBODY to test and see if you are delusional, or not ....
1.) Please supply just ONE scripture I have misused, and explain just HOW I misused it. If you cannot do this .... you stand convicted by your own words.
....and by the way, I do not confront the Elders, because they do not confront me.  Every time they have, I have been forthright, and honest.
That's how they all learned to Moonwalk.
 

If you have made that assumption, I'll leave that with you  
But it would be possible for a person to pretend to love, admire, follow, believe in, other people, so that they would not be suspected of any foul play if said people came to harm. 

Wow what a lovely avatar for a spiritual person to have  Billy seems to like the idea that the Kid killed many more people. 
Just a point here, is a genuine photo and avatar ? 
avatar /ˈavətɑː/ noun. HINDUISM a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher. 2. an icon or figure representing a particular person in a video game, Internet forum, etc. "conversation is depicted in a balloon over the avatar's head"   Billy says he's seen my 'avatar' on 'apostate web sites.  Whereas I only use real photos of me. 

The apostles did not “compare themselves to God’s high standards,” for they knew that to do so would be smug. They tried to keep them. They knew very well that they fell short. 
Instead, they said things such as with Paul: 
“I find, then, this law in my case: that when I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me.  I really delight in the law of God according to the man I am within,  but I behold in my members another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law that is in my members.  Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death?”  Romans 7:22
You really did manage to miss a lot during your time as a Witness. In your own way, you are no less judgmental than Billy—perhaps even more so.
 

John says: Billy the Kid (born Henry McCarty September 17 or November 23, 1859 – July 14, 1881, also known as William H. Bonney) was an American Old West outlaw and gunfighter who killed eight men before he was shot and killed at age 21.
You say: (from history.com) “Just how many men Billy the Kid killed is uncertain. Billy himself reportedly once claimed he had killed 21 men-“one for every year of my life.” A reliable contemporary authority estimated the actual total was more like nine-four on his own and five with the aid of others. Other western outlaws of the day were far more deadly. John Wesley Hardin, for example, killed well over 20 men and perhaps as many as 40.”
I say: Come, come. I cannot be everywhere. I have to think about God. You two get together on this. Just how many did he kill?

Wish it were that simple. This is only ONE of the reasons to be insular. Another reason to be insular is to hide the fact that you are just like the world in some areas and still hope that people will think of you as no part of the world. In other words, it's to hide your dirty laundry.
(Romans 13:11-14) . . .. 12 The night is well along; the day has drawn near. Let us therefore throw off the works belonging to darkness and let us put on the weapons of the light. 13 Let us walk decently as in the daytime, not in wild parties and drunkenness, not in immoral intercourse and brazen conduct, not in strife and jealousy. 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not be planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.
I think it's helpful to always remember that we are talking about crimes: crimes that can be akin to rape and murder and torture and kidnapping and terror. Granted there are some aspects of child sexual abuse that don't appear to sound like crimes. Some persons get caught during the times when they are only "grooming" children for more serious abuse. (Romans 13:14 "planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.") A recent court case includes an elder who was able to convince the other elders that it was "accidental touching" before being caught in several other cases at various stages of abuse. 
I remember when Brother J.R.Brown did an interview and kept focusing on false accusations, accidents, and "lesser" areas of child sexual abuse, such as an 18 year old committing fornication a 16 year old. I didn't see the old 20-20 interview about CSA and still haven't. But I remember listening to J.R.Brown's comments and immediately thinking that he must know that this is a common way to shift attention away from the serious crimes of CSA, which often includes rape/violence. I believe now that the WTS had already paid out millions of dollars even back then, but this is not something that Brother Brown could admit. He made it seem like we didn't really have a problem. I think this kind of hiding, or keeping people in the dark on a matter, could have been very dangerous in that the problem was not dealt with openly. Hinting that matters of "sexual abuse" are associated with apostate lies is another way to keep people in the dark. (Granted that Lett's quote was technically accurate, but it served the same purpose because he was not willing to admit the extent of the problem.)
Brother Jackson at least admitted that these cases of real CSA were not associated with apostate lies. He admitted that it is a real problem in our community, just as it is in the world at large. That was an excellent "change" in the way we began to address the issue. I think it has led to the current shift away from trying to save the reputation of the organization, and make sure that the blame goes to the perpetrator.
Again, I think that even when a person comes to the elders with a case they would like spiritual guidance on, but don't wish to have the case go to the police or other authorities, I think that a desire for privacy should not always be a valid concern. Many types of CSA rise to the level of overriding the legal requirements. Abusers repeatedly are caught repeating the crime with another person. I think there should be times when the elders tell a parent:
"We understand that you want to avoid publicity, embarrassment, and reproach that this would bring on your family and the organization. This family head and 'breadwinner' may even lose his job and no longer be able to easily care for the rest of his family financially. And you may even have the law on your side when it comes to keeping such a terrible thing hidden. But, as for us, we must do all we can to protect the innocent, not the guilty. It is our Christian obligation to protect the innocent, look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and therefore if necessary, to err on the side of mercy and love for the innocent. If we must make a judgment, we should err on the side of those who are often trampled by the world's justice: the children. It's what we are willing to do for the "least of these" that is deemed as if doing the same for Christ himself.
(Proverbs 11:21) . . .Be assured of this: An evil person will not go unpunished, But the children of the righteous will escape.
(Isaiah 10:1, 2) . . .Woe to those who enact harmful regulations, Who constantly draft oppressive decrees,  2 To deny the legal claim of the poor, To deprive the lowly among my people of justice, Making widows their spoil And fatherless children their plunder!
(Matthew 7:11) 11 Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him!
(Matthew 18:2-5) . . .So calling a young child to him, he stood him in their midst 3 and said: “Truly I say to you, unless you turn around and become as young children, you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of the heavens. 4 Therefore, whoever will humble himself like this young child is the one who is the greatest in the Kingdom of the heavens; 5 and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me also.

WITH RESPECT TO 'GOING BEYOND THE LAW'
(Matthew 5:40-42) 40 And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment; 41 and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.
I sometimes think of this scripture when it seems that the courts want us to 'air our dirty linen' (our inner garment) by asking for information we have tried to keep secret.
 

Are you suggesting that Billy is out to destroy the GB? I never thought of that.

I think it was you that got burned Kid, when I pointed out that the scripture you used from John 8 wasn't recognised as being authentic scripture. 
But now you go on to use another reference that isn't authentic scripture. 
My only thought here is that you are trying to guide people away from God's word. Why would a 'Christian' want to do that ? 
And why would someone who pretends to love the 'Watchtower' / JW Org not use the NWT ? 
But then why would a 'Christian' have a house full of guns and want to use a murdering outlaw as his avatar ? Do you know I've just found a strange coincidence Billy. Let me show you :- 
Billy the Kid (born Henry McCarty September 17 or November 23, 1859 – July 14, 1881, also known as William H. Bonney) was an American Old West outlaw and gunfighter who killed eight men before he was shot and killed at age 21.
Now how many men in that GB ?  How strange that is. 

I think it was you that got burned Kid, when I pointed out that the scripture you used from John 8 wasn't recognised as being authentic scripture. 
But now you go on to use another reference that isn't authentic scripture. 
My only thought here is that you are trying to guide people away from God's word. Why would a 'Christian' want to do that ? 
And why would someone who pretends to love the 'Watchtower' / JW Org not use the NWT ? 
But then why would a 'Christian' have a house full of guns and want to use a murdering outlaw as his avatar ? Do you know I've just found a strange coincidence Billy. Let me show you :- 
Billy the Kid (born Henry McCarty September 17 or November 23, 1859 – July 14, 1881, also known as William H. Bonney) was an American Old West outlaw and gunfighter who killed eight men before he was shot and killed at age 21.
Now how many men in that GB ?  How strange that is. 

Billy is strange, pretending to be a JW, using writings that are not for true Christians, just to try to back up his useless comments. I think the person is unwell. I was going to say man, but one never knows with stupid avatars, if a person is male or female. 
I think your own comment applies to you Kid 
 If you were a JW at one point, whoever taught you scripture did a poor job of it.