Thinking

3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

There are some who do pretend to be Truthers,  for example, we had a couple  former members of your faith who attempted only to get called out for it, one was mentioned by name in another thread, as is him being exposed as a Wiccan Paganist.

I do know of some that have left us and gone on to fortunetelling and full on spiritism…..I do not understand how anyone can blame the faults we have….and turn to Satan and act as his mouth peice …it beggars belief.

I have no doubt they are give a certain amount of power from the dark side when this happens…(.then pride becomes a real problem with them)not wanting to believe in what they were taught of such things….sadly he despises them in reality….and will turn on them when he no longer has any use for them.

1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

I simply speak truth to the best of my ability, whatever anyone does with the information, so be it. I think he brings you in in order to make an appeal that only backfires, ironically, he brings in Witness, although she is essentially like Ms. Haven, it is kind of odd to add to her words. In addition to that he is extremely lucky, I never quote his last tenures because it would break some of his notations with his new name/tenure.

That being said, concerning the topic itself, in short, it is known that your faith community still preaches the gospel, namely over the phone and letters. Hence the COVID-19 restrictions, of which was mentioned.

So my response to Butler was correct, none of them are preaching to different houses. Perhaps soon you may be doing so, but you have to understand, things are different now. I remember telling @ApostaBabe Linda James that because of the change in society, especially now, preaching to houses will be somewhat difficult and or problematic. Likewise with any of your churches opening back up, you have to be extremely vigilant now, hence the change in society and the mindset of people. I also talked about Gangstalkers, any religious institution that opened a while back became subjected to such types, so even when there is happiest of going back to an institution, you still have to be hyper vigilant of those who come to said institution for their own personal gain, as is theft.

So in short, extra precaution and safety.

While your faith community was away, there were some religious folks of the Mainstream who acted as a substitute for those who normally preach the gospel. From the Black Hebrew Israelites to the Jehovah Warrior types who think Jesus is Jehovah, as is the ones who claim COVID-19 Endemic was somehow judgement from God, even those who use ill influence to spread some weird Exegesis about God and Jesus that makes no sense. So when you do return, you shouldn't be surprised to see some of these folks come around, as is your embolden opposition from the EXJW camp, more influenced by not only conspiracy, but ideas from the Mainstream. On top of that Babylon herself is more dangerous than before, so Mainstream Christendom does hold some more power, and some tricks.

There will be political conflict. The mention of Pearl's followers and some of their ideas resulting in Right Wing Conservatives to confront them, that should some form of awareness of what is to come when things open back up. Then there is the level of Authoritarianism and the broken justice system.

Therefore, watch your step, not for yourself, but for those around you.

 

 

I did not know of some churches going door to door…I know SDA do try off course the Mormons..and I know some have tried individually go door to door..which is commendable…but they sort of don’t last….

Aso to being a different world out there I also totally get your concern.

A sister and I were talking on this point ourselves and not looking forward to going door to door again or cart witnessing due to the change in people .

People are now angrier than ever…so many unemployed and on government payments…lost employment..a drop in the manner of living.

Prices of food up as well as petrol…floods and fires and a virus that has terrified everyone and a corrupt government….so yeah we really hope no more door to door work….it’s a different world out there now..

35 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

Doesn't make it any less true. Stick to your writing style. I will stick with mine. However, this should show how intelligent you people are for @TrueTomHarley, since I am dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses without it.

*** ws18 November p. 25 par. 16 Who Molds Your Thinking? ***
16 Can we completely avoid worldly ideas? No, we will be exposed to some of the world’s ideas because we cannot literally get out of the world. (1 Corinthians 5:9, 10) Even when we are preaching, we will hear people express wrong ideas and false beliefs
 

It’s sAying worldly IDEAS…Like same sex marriages etc…they are of the WORLD….he is not calling a PERSON  worldly….big difference .

21 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

Indeed, your kind believes everything a worldly person has to say. Yet, you draw the line with bible truth, 🤪

I dont know where you have been but we have not used worldly as a description for those not of our belief for a very long time?

It was a terrible way of speaking and we have corrected that attitude.

4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

For the record, I never thought SM was associated with the Unitarian Church. I've even corrected others who thought so, because SM was always careful about how he used the term Unitarian (and Restorationist, etc.). For that matter, I am also a Unitarian (and a Restorationist). I don't know much of anything about these Truthers, though.

Oh for  goodness sake!

5 hours ago, Dmitar said:

Here we go again, playing with words. Stay focused.

Glad you finally made that correction. People here for a long time including the people you defend here, @Arauna, @Thinking, @TrueTomHarley, @JW Insider, @Pudgy, @Witness, so forth and so on, thought you are a Unitarian Christian, when you're not by your own words. You just like to debunk, which has no real meaning in Christianity.

That wasn't the question, was it. You enjoy evading the question then complain after how you are a good debater, and you won't fall into any trap. A trap you yourself caused. 

Forgiveness is a given. DO YOU BELIEVE JUDAS WILL BE FORGIVEN? How about those that committed CRIMES against humanity. How about those that blaspheme against God's Holy Spirit? IS THIS PLAIN ENOUGH FOR YOU, not to play with words?

So, you know who the Antichrist is?

A none response is not a response, not a quote. Care to clarify?

Not according to other truthers. Does this mean, you're not a true, truther? It would appear, you reject what people say about truthers from within their own community.

This is coming from @Srecko Sostar just to waste his time here. A true JW knows the preaching work hasn't stopped.

Don’t bring me in on your ridiculous argument…as far as SM goes I believe him to be truthful…Sheeesh!

2 hours ago, Arauna said:

This is a lie - Christendom is always taking sides in wars for their states or countries.  Most of their people take sides in every conflict.  On the other hand we do NOT take sides and you will NEVER see us meeting heads of states in official church regalia.  We do not even take part in discussions on TV.   The Pope represents a state and even has his own diplomats.  And owns one of the richest banks in the world....... the previous Pope abdicated quickly when he was going to be held accountable for the bank's money laundering.  He never leaves the Vatican because he can be taken into custody.  

So you have not thought through your statement clearly.

I dont think space Merchant was the one that said that ….

6 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

as his people attested to prior to what happened to your faith.

May I ask what you mean.? Perhaps I should know?

11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

If it is true that "true Christians" go from house to house, literally, with good news, then yes, your work is stopped.

According to quotes bellow GB lead a double game. They can't be trusted.

Can you be trusted?  

However, it is only among Jehovah’s Witnesses that virtually all, young and old, male and female, participate year in, year out, in the house-to-house ministry. It is only Jehovah’s Witnesses who truly endeavor to reach all the inhabited earth with the Kingdom message, in obedience to the prophetic command at Matthew 24:14.

Because of the effectiveness of the house-to-house ministry, opposers in many lands have tried to stop it. In order to gain official respect for their right to preach from door to door, Jehovah’s Witnesses have appealed to government officials. Where necessary, they have gone to court in order to legally establish the right to spread the good news in this manner. (Phil. 1:7) And where repressive governments have persisted in forbidding such activity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have at times simply done it in a less conspicuous manner or, if necessary, used other means to reach people with the Kingdom message.

Although radio and television broadcasts have been used to spread the Kingdom message, Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that the personal contact made possible by house-to-house calls is far more effective. It affords better opportunity to answer the questions of individual householders and to search out deserving ones. (Matt. 10:11) That is one of the reasons why, in 1957, the Watch Tower Society sold radio station WBBR in New York.

- https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Jehovahs-Witnesses-Proclaimers-of-Gods-Kingdom/Kingdom-Preaching-Furthered-by-Production-of-Bible-Literature/Preaching-Publicly-and-From-House-to-House/

 

 Web Sites of “Jehovah’s Witnesses”: Consider, for example, some Internet sites set up by individuals who claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses. They invite you to visit their sites to read experiences posted by others who claim to be Witnesses. You are encouraged to share your thoughts and views about the Society’s literature. Some give recommendations about presentations that could be used in the field ministry. These sites offer chat rooms for individuals to connect to, allowing live communication with others, similar to talking on the telephone. They often point you to other sites where you can have on-line association with Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world. But can you tell for certain that these contacts have not been planted by apostates?

¹¹ Having association via the Internet may not be consistent with the recommendation found at Ephesians 5:15-17. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/201999403

Your playing with words  to try to prove that our preaching  work has stopped…you NEED to beleive that to support your own arguments,,,time and time again you have had it explained to you that we still preach…by letters phone and Informally  and yes by the internet and zoom which is operated under careful directions so one’s like you do not enter certain meetings….

as a people we use the internet a lot now…but face to face and flesh to flesh  is a a better way to do it…it’s like the skin on skin meaning…but we have had to learn to make the internet work for this…the time will come when all this will disappear…even internet…and we will as a people adapt to that as well..if it should happen.

People are having bible studies and going on to be baptised…even in my own extended family…one’s who I never ever thought would…some of them have left the truth..didn’t cope with some things they thought were unfair or too wrong…but see the basics and the relationship to Jehovah is the most important thing…they are prepared to,put up with what they don’t agree with as they are usually not doctrinal concern..

Gods people will always have errors and many of them very grave ones ….like King David who did an census…and tens and tens of thousands of his people died for that error so you will be able always to show our errors on written paper.

To those who wonder about us…I hope you get to know a witness you click with and check things out now..all the best to those ones thinking on it…

5 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

@JW Insider @Arauna My contact is attempting to get his family out of Russia, not sure how he is going to do this, but he is trying, as of recent due to some news that came around the Truther Community; the US, and soon, possibly their allies, are giving warning to their citizens to leave Russia due to claims of threats. They're telling people to do  this with a sense of urgency. Concerning your faith community, granted their unfortunately situation in Russia, you think some of them will leave because of these warnings, take up that opportunity? I ask because elsewhere, one of your own was asked this same question, although Ezekiel is an American, he simply does not know; which is ironic because he never gives a straight answer, he is often cryptic in his words outside of Scripture.

That being said, some in the community are already speaking on the matter, for this is recent -

 

Some may leave as we have fled at different times of war..I’m thinking of Africa when I speak …I’m thinking this is a personal decision tho I have read else where the GB warned us to leave Ukraine ahead of the attack..so who knows what going on…but the brothers would all be in contact and I’m guessing have some plans that they would not share with others….

5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

I have a simple question; Who in the United States banned house-to-house preaching for JW? Who told JW not to go from house to house? 

Jehovahs people are very organized in what they do and how they preach…we do not pray for the spirit to lead us to a certain door as some do. We cannot read hearts and must give everyone an opportunity…or a fair go at least of some spiritual food.

When there is a hurricane we do not go out but instead bunker down as the rest of the world does…when their are floods we make preparations to combat those devastating waters..we do not go swimming or surf boarding amongst it…..when there are raging uncontrollable fires we take cover for the duration……when there is a unknown virus circulating the world that nobody seems to know anything about and all reports from so called health experts paint as the plague ….we bunker down and try to not infect or spread this unknown virus and take precautions just as all our neighbors and In fact the world does and did…and take care with our own loved ones just as the rest of the world does.

As you well know we are a organized people and don’t do things like the preaching work in a helter  Skelton  manner..we are 8 1/2 million strong ..a huge people from many cultures and world wide…so hence we need to have a earthly captain at the head of the ship so as not to act in a irresponsible manner in these sorts of conditions …As you well know The GB made that decision and the sake of peace and safety all witnesses followed thru…..why do you ask sereko…have you started going door to door…may I ask who told  YOU to stop..or did you listen to mere men and not follow what in your dear heart was right…..and follow Christ lead in the preaching work..at that and this time …..are you now doing the door to door work.????…and if you are not..may I ask…again….WHO TOLD YOU TO STOP..?

20 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

100%. It is the theory promoted by the Grayzone crew (Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, etc.) and the one that Jimmy Dore promotes along with those same guests. The idea was discussed as early as 2015, and hinted at among US politicians since then. Recall that President Biden's son was paid millions by a gas company in Ukraine (and not because he had any experience). Also what Zelensky called his first "gift" to President Biden was to cut off the TV stations in Ukraine that served Russian-speaking Ukrainians. (Also recall that while Trump was being accused -rightly- for quid pro quo politically self-serving negotiations with Ukraine, Biden had already bragged about his own quid pro quo negotiations for political gain.)

Instead of pointing back to those "Dore" Youtube videos, I wanted to point to the Grayzone directly, but their own commentary tends to be more serious, and often longer. So, if people can stand Dore's style, his ability to collect the bullet points, is easier for most people to get through.

I thought this one was useful:

Of course, more serious discussions had been going on for years with Steven Cohen (the late Russian Expert) and John Miersheimer as early as 2015 (below), who make the direct connection to Germany:

Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer:

 

Mersheimer is excellent to listen too…his very latest update on the situation is spot on……so is Hanson….common sense speaking 

1 hour ago, xero said:

It makes for a compelling narrative to be sure, yet I know that there are no such things as "governments", but only individuals acting on the information they have in what appears to be their own personal best interests. This so, I'd need to know who personally stands to benefit and how they benefit themselves. Putin's actions are not unexpected. He behaves as if all other people have the same morals and motivations that he has. He's not a genius, and he's not an idiot. Just who these nameless, faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are and how they are personally benefited is not known to me.

I understand..I just watched his address to his nation…not good…so if he is the King  of the North…or Part off..and he comes all the way to his end…..what happens with the king of the south?

In other words how is this going to play out..I’m actually surprised Putin has let it go this far but then he is on Jehovahs time table and not his…

10 hours ago, Arauna said:

I just saw this - It is an interesting perspective

https://greatgameindia.com/ukraine-crisis-germany/

If only the average person understood…frightening !

On 3/3/2022 at 2:52 AM, Arauna said:

The security of Russia was threatened.  Russia has asked several times for negotiations about this but he never received an answer. (Sound familiar?)  Not only were continually bombing his neighboring states but apparently there were hostile airplanes doing nuclear maneuvers 14 km from his borders (not in western press).

There is already calls for the UN to take this up and please broker a peace and UNITE the world!. I guess they will want Putin to capitulate some things.  This will bring us closer ever closer to the New world order dispensation of Klaus Schwab and WEF

Just watched him addressing his people….he explained it clearly and seemed to sigh and have the weight of his actions on his shoulders….what a mess man has made…

5 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

That is such a poor comparison, a watchtower writing committee type of comparison

However if the plane was on fire I would help everyone on the plane get off the plane, not just my loved one.

I actually dont know who you are or what your experience is with Jehovah’s Witness as a people….but this is a  wrong understanding you have…..anybody would help to get everyone of the plane you speak about.,.if they didn’t they would be blood guilty…but I can tell you now…if I was on that plane I would get my son of first and get my grandkids of and then turn my attention to every other person…as I hope every catholic or Buddhist would.

I like to think I would do that even if I was a atheists…and I know many atheists would do that…..

I would like to ask you were there any Catholics standing there with a Poster to direct their followers…we’re there baptists…maybe there were other faiths and i did not see them….I’m sure behind the scenes other faiths may be helping their believers and sheltering them.

But  Cudos to those brothers and sisters who had the guts to stand there freezing on the edge of war…to identify themselves so blatantly.

As to my comment being typical of watchtower writing committee…well then they have it right..tho I did not consult them in my answer as I did not have to…my comment was a humane comment…and knowing the brothers around me…you seem desperate to find fault with JWs….Mathew you will find many…and I would not defend our errors…I acknowledge them and the pain caused by them…but when the chips are down..we put aside some very serious problems and dig in and work together as one…some here refuse to acknowledge that because it would undermine their hatred of us as a people…….and we do also help our neighbors…..over the last years I have noticed the brothers emphasizing and teaching us to be kind to all and to help our neighbors weather believers or not.

Your words may..and I stress may..have had some weight…in years gone by……..but not for some years now….credit must be acknowledge where it is due.
 

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11 hours ago, Arauna said:

Interesting.....  I will watch out for this development in India in the news reports.  I do know that Putin has already informed PM Mohdi that some of the Indian students, who were studying in Ukraine, have been collected and are being used as human shields.  Apparently they have 5 universities which specialize in foreign students... from Africa and India. 

I would like to add that since JWs do not take up arms or defend themselves they most  probably will be termed as having ' bystander effect'.  The reason being that Jehovah says : ¹³  Then Moses said to the people: “Do not be afraid. Stand firm and see the salvation of Jehovah that he will perform for you today. 

Because we follow the instruction in the bible and carry no arms the coalition of nations will come up against the people of God because it seems as if they have no protection and can be plundered.

Ezekiel 38: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “On that day when my people Israel are dwelling in security, will you not know it?q ¹⁵  You will come from your place, from the remotest parts of the north,r you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly, a vast army.

I will bring my judgment against him* with pestilencey and bloodshed; and I will rain down a torrential downpour and hailstonesz and firea and sulfurb on him and on his troops and on the many peoples with him.c ²³  And I will certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’

 

I did not know that about the Indian people…I shudder to think what they will do with the brothers that never got out..

19 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

And he is good for searching out drugs

 

Ummmmm I think sometimes he finds them…hee ..Joke  joke ..just kidding…tongue in cheek and all that stuff

6 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Why not offer aide to any one, not just jw's?

They do…but they are probably putting the brothers first as they may be tortured for not complying with the Ukraine instructions that all men of faith MUST take up arms….

On 2/28/2022 at 4:41 AM, Randy Lee Manning said:

You know that Russia has always been said that its the king of the north, but the below artical seams to say other wise from history. I had always thought of China as the king of the north, i could be wrong.

Tell me your thoughts on this.

Thanks

 

REBUTTAL BY

 

 

 

There is a remarkable similarity between the "Czech Crisis" of 1938-39 and the "Ukrainian Crisis" of 2022. In both cases, a peace-seeking but strong national leader -- relentlessly pushed and viciously slandered by the Globalists and their vile henchmen in the Piranha Press -- was forced to make a move upon a Globalist-occupied neighboring state which was abusing his countrymen there and being used as a staging ground to menace the Homeland itself.

In both cases, these leaders, for years, tried in vain to resolve an unjust situation diplomatically; but were repeatedly lied to and threatened by the Globalist-owned "free world" states to the West.

In both cases, these leaders, backed by a show of military resolve, finally deactivated a world war triggering point and set up (or recognized) a pair of friendly protectorates.

And, of course, in both cases, Sulzberger's Slimes and the rest of the whore-pack Judenpresse squealed in horror, "Invasion! Invasion!" as the United States imposed sanctions.

 

March 15,1939

March 19, 1939

1939: Hitler recognizes independent protectorates -- USA responds with sanctions.

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DW News // February 21, 2022

February 24, 2022

2022: Putin recognizes independent protectorates -- USA responds with sanctions.

 

 

Putin = Hitler? Actually, in many ways, yes -- which is a good thing in our book.

 

Fortunately for the world, the one key difference here is that back in 1939, the deactivation of the crisis in Europe was short-lived because the Globalists had a backup plan for provoking a war with Hitler's peaceful Germany through Edward Rydz Smigly -- the expansionist-minded mad military dictator of Poland. But in 2022, there will be no war against Russia because the Globalists are not in control -- at least not to the extent they need to be in order to pull off a major operation such as a world war.

Also working in favor of peace and justice this time around is the power of Russia itself -- a nation which, when Vlad the Bad came to town more than 20 years ago-- was on its knees and relatively toothless in the face of US / NATO / CIA / NGO aggression all along its frontiers and especially in the former Yugoslavia. It was Putin the Great who brought Russia back to a point where, by 2016, he was able to talk tough and back it up.

***
UK Express: (October 18, 2016)
Headline: Vladimir Putin warns Americans are in 'impending and grave danger' as he accused the United States of lying over its nuclear capabilities and revealed Russia continues to develop new generation warfare.

Putin: “I’m not going to list everything, all that matters is we have modernized our military-industrial complex and we continue to develop new generation warfare. No matter what we said to our American partners to curb the production of weaponry they refused to cooperate with us, they rejected our offers, and continue to do their own thing.

They rejected everything we had to offer. So here we are today and they’ve placed their missile defense system in Romania always saying ‘we must protect ourselves from the Iranian nuclear threat’. “Where’s the threat? There is no Iranian nuclear threat.

The missile defense systems are continuing to be positioned. That means we were right when we said that they are lying to us. ... So they built this system and now they are being loaded with missiles.... We know that technologies advance. We even know in which year the Americans will accomplish a new missile, which will be able to penetrate distances of up to 1000km, and then even further. “And from that moment on they will be able to directly threaten Russia’s nuclear potential.

We know year by year what’s going to happen and they know that we know. It’s only you (the media) that they tell tales to, and you spread it to the citizens of your countries. Your people, in turn, do not feel a sense of the impending danger - this is what worries me. How can you not understand that the world is being pulled in an irreversible direction?
***

Yes indeed; though all of bewildered Normiedom remained oblivious to the severity of the situation, those were some very dark and dangerous days in 2016. And with all expecting Satan's Bitch to take over where the warmongers of Team Obongo would leave off in 2017, World War III against Russia & China -- or at least a pair of really nasty regional wars in Europe and Syria (as we warned at the time)  -- seemed inevitable. George Soros was even threatening as much! (here)

It was the stunning rise of Donald Trump -- coupled with the resurgence of Russia (both elements were necessary) -- that saved the world from the planned international bloodbath. But don't hold your breath waiting for either Trump or Putin to be awarded the "prestigious" IgNobel Peace Prize any time soon. Only Globalist warmongers and Communist scumbags win those.

 

USA TODAY

 

Russia, like Germany in 1938-39, has every right to overthrow an abusive and hostile puppet regime that the Globalists set up on its border.

 

 

Washington Post The Daily Mail

Hitler: "For months the Germans in Sudetenland have been suffering under the torture of the Czechoslovak government. The Sudeten German population was and is German. This German minority living there has been ill-treated in the most distressing manner. ... It is a lie when the outside world says that we only tried to carry through our revisions by pressure. On my own initiative I have, not once but several times, made proposals for the revision of intolerable conditions. All these proposals, as you know, have been rejected - proposals for limitation of armaments, proposals for limitation of war making." 
Reichstag Address, October 1, 1938 / (Read his amazing speeches in "Mein Side of the Story")

King of the North and his alias ..I have no doubt China  is one of those alias

38 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Germany knew that the Lusitania was carrying munitions for England, and they put an ad in the London times telling them that they were it was their intention to sink the Lusitania but the British command, the Admiralty decided that the Lusitania could sneak by because the wolf packs were operating in a different part of the Atlantic at the time.

Also the Americans were trying to pretend they were neutral, and for a long time neither would admit that the Lusitania Was carrying the nations munitions. They also adamantly declared that the Lusitania was not carrying munitions.

The British admiralty decided to charge the captain of the Lusitania with dereliction of duty and incompetence as a scapegoat because they knew the ship had been blown up with a single German torpedo, Which detonated the munitions on board the ship and it sank in 15 minutes.

They promulgated the lie that the ship was sunk with three German torpedoes because with one German torpedo, and no munitions, it would not have sunk in 15 minutes.

That was the official report of the British Admiralty judges, but the Captain of the Lusitania who incidentally had survived and was pulled from the water unconscious and was hospitalized, in his trial he was eventually exonerated.

After World War I was over, the truth came out, but they deliberately falsified testimony and ignored evidence to try and get the United States into the war, which was OK with Woodrow Wilson.

Every government head is dirty..absolutely filthy.dirty with the blood of their own people….I wish people could understand this more but we have a new generation of people who know none of this…it’s just so sad!

12 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

@Thinking Understandable, as I told the latter whenever anyone is blocked, there is a reason behind it. But yes, there are people like this online, even in real life, the many people I confronted, some who even seek to commit violence outside of the David Wood types or Mainstream Christendom. The only run in I had, which was a few times, was that of a Berkley Teacher, who ended up getting herself arrested, but apparently because of how the Justice System works people who do bad things are often let free to cause more problems and influence. Similarly to Witness/Pearl, but this woman is driven by an Agenda based ideology so much so it makes her not only dangerous, but deranged, and opposite to the latter because of Anti-Christian notations. Not to mention she in the past used the notation that because she is a woman, she can do as she please without consequence until caught - she was exposed for it.

That being said, online and in person, there is deception all around. Because of COVID-19 and the situation of Ukraine, things are vastly different, so should more places open back up, more of such ones will be in full force. Likewise with criminals who are let off easy.

I’ve been on line for sometime now and I have wondered about the increase of sisters who now are feeling  they are anointed ….I am not a brother…but a sister…so I can look at this with fair and unbiased eyes..

Anointed sisters and Ive known two who definitely were in my time…still observed  Jesus command and observed their headship arrangement InThe cong.

These sisters often knew and understood much more than any of the brothers taking the lead ..sorry brothers but it’s was true…even tho one of them used to get really frustrated with certain things…even to the point of tears at times..but she always kept her earthly obligations to Jesus arrangement…but I know she found it hard at times..

Yet they respected the arrangement and their place as it was not time for them to step out of that earthly arrangement…it’s the law of  Christ and it’s being obedient to our King until he changes it or their death does.

8 hours ago, Arauna said:

There is only one king at a time which represents this king "“In the time of the end". Germany hated Jehovah's people, thereafter Russia relentlessly persecuted Jehovah's people.

The king of the south was firstly : Britain (the 7th head of the wild beast that received a sword stroke -), in order to continue with the war they needed USA to enter the war and then the Lusitania was conveniently sunk.  

Do you mean there is always just the one King…..and that king must always be acting against gods people in some form……….he then then pulls In The second king…sorry for my ignorance…but it can be confusing to read as sometimes I misunderstand written words….

2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

I do not dwell on imagination, make a claim like that then a comment pertaining to your of which you claim will be exposed.

You alluded to the fact as to why Thinking as blocked you and it was stated the reason. The BLOCK option allows people on forums or a forum to partake that action should the latter is deemed problematic.

By the way, your alluding is quoted below.

as to why Thinking as blocked you and it was stated the reason. The BLOCK option allows people on forums or a forum to partake that action should the latter is deemed problematic.

Seems you are quoting yourself on the latter reponse. Although despite this, the remark is irrelevant.

 

Yet rarely do you speak for yourself. Nearly all of your threads, Pearl speaks for you.

I do not speak on the behalf of and or do as you do for Pearl.

It is not in regards to being in agreement, the issue is you are essentially bounded to the woman so much so you can't speak on your own behalf. You also exposed yourself for not being able to critical think or do research, which also proves to the point, as there is evidence of this.

You are no different from the David Wood types.

I do not have anyone who speaks for me. I can critical think, use logic and profess. The experience is also backed by this.

Of what exactly?

They can speak for themselves although their faith community act as a guide, this even relates to our debate for Religious Office. The ISIS survivor although JW can speak freely, likewise with the ones here. 

Assumptions do not get you far, for last time this was brought up, you took some notations out of context to befit the Agenda you are pushing, hence the call of misconception.

Misconceptions are usually pushed by those of former faith communities, and or ideologies, likewise with the onlooker who believes whatever they see someone else says.

Granted, you would not know this, and what makes it worse, you being a former JW, being oblivious, for if you actually preached the gospel to the people instead of being Pearl's vessel, you'd come to that realization.

Mainstreamers often use this notation for their own benefit, granted they make up the majority, it is a common case.

Granted with our last debate whereas 1 Corinthians was used, it might not be the best idea to quote this verse without context.

Then again, some people, you included, will quote without understanding what the passage entails and the last time we dwelled in Corinthians, you (Pearl) had a accursed view of God's Order, hence why the latter claim sticks to befit you, so much so, you ran to the Watchtower to save safe.

Both you and her are misguided, no different from those who are David's vessel, let alone the Durbinites, Jehovah Warriors, BHI, etc. that are not spiritually sound. In your case, any example can easily be pulled.

The sad reality is you, and Pearl do not realize how much of pawns you are to the Mainstream, granted, their influence ahs got the best of many, both JWs and EXJWs.

I can only read your comments SM and I will explain why I have blocked certain ones..it is not out of fear..but I have discussed in the past with such ones.

but it becomes like being on a merry go round..round and round we go with no sensible discussions….much energy is spent..and wasted…and fruitless debates are worthless to each side.

To those I have blocked I say be at peace with your decisions…I am not scared of you…I have had discussions with ones like you and pearl many times..many many times ..and it becomes fruitless for both sides….my energy must be reserved for others….and not those that try to pull us into endless merry go round that never stops.

I have no time for certain ones who speak in a Judas tongue…which drips with the blood of many you have deceived….and shipwrecked many faiths……

  Being hurt or abused by one’s in power in our faith does not excuse certain ones who break away and devour their own former brothers and sister who are working in the trenches ……instead it is best to learn to step Over those ones…it’s a test of faith for sure .but it can be done. 

Even Jesus walked away from ones who did not discern his sayings…..it’s a principle some would do well to follow for their own  sense of peace..perhaps it’s best some  block me to get that,

9 hours ago, Anna said:

I'm sorry. What I should have simply said is that Russia was not the king KON in colonial times, it only became the KON in the time of the end. Before the first world War the KON was Germany I believe and Anglo America has always been the king of the south. I don't know who the KON was supposed to be in the 18th century....

Some one might know here ?